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[extremely fake Owen Wilson voice]
Now, everybody knows that the pick the Dallas Mavericks owe the Knicks won’t be good because their floor is too high with a healthy Luka Doncic. What this comment presupposes is… maybe it isn’t?
Jock Landale is on the Suns and is a destroyer of souls.
Not sure why no one is talking about this. +27 last night!
Why is every news item a google link?
Love the casual dropping of Eli Cash atop the thread.
We went down this road with Dallas in 2021, though. I’m not gonna not believe in Luka until game 65. The best that pick is likely to be is… I’ll just pick a random number… something like 19.
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Yeah where did that Jock guy come from?
Dallas barely lost to Phoenix, crushed Memphis and had that weird loss to the shell of the Pelicans so they’ll probably be fine but . . .maybe they wont
Big test for our backcourt defensively tonight, going up against a top-15 by BPM player in Dennis Smith Jr.
More fun with small sample sizes, via Tommy Beer:
Yeah, I was just goofing around, Hubert. I assume it’ll be in the 20s barring a major Luka injury — which brings with it the risk of the pick not conveying at all this year. There is a very narrow range of desirable circumstances for us to get the pick and have it result in more than a scratch-off ticket kind of player. (Though Walt Perrin is better at scratching than most.)
Been stanning Landale for years. Aussie who played for St Mary’s and put up absurd numbers. Kind of like a Mike Muscala type.
Jock was a KenPom monster at St. Mary’s.
Haha Bird with the early heat
Woj: “The New York Knicks picked up the fourth-year option on forward Obi Toppin, sources tell ESPN.”
A completely inevitable move, but just passing along the news nonetheless.
Re: Dallas pick, my money is that we’ll pick… a top20 protected 2024 pick! 😀
I love Brunson’s on offense but he is being targeted on defense, even Cole Anthony was scoring easily on him. I wonder if Thibs can do something about it.
Darules, I think the solution will be to start Grimes or IQ next to Brunson and have them defend at point of attack.
Zach Braziller:
“#knicks have until Monday to pick up options for next year on Immanuel Quickley and Quentin Grimes. Expected to happen.”
Agree, Brunson is much weaker on ball defender that I have anticipated. Not sure if its mostly his poor insticts, lacks lateral speed or size. Hart/Mitch may have top switch more instead of dropping in PnR coverage.
EB, that was clearly the correct answer to my silly question
Thibs took JB off Morant in the very first game and it’s easy to see why. They’re going to have to work around his defensive deficiencies, unfortunately. A JB/Spida backcourt would have been a disaster in any kind of serious game.
I’m so glad this team is worth watching. I have a lot of real-life issues to ignore over the next five months.
“A JB/Spida backcourt would have been a disaster in any kind of serious game.”
I was just thinking the same thing, especially since Spida is a WORSE defender by most accounts.
ESPN’s power rankings has us 14th—just behind the Jazz—in its first list. Squarely middle of the pack.
Brunson is never going to be a defensive stopper. But that’s okay. He is crafty, strong , quick, and has great anticipation. He is going to make opportunistic plays in key moments. But you need a Mitch behind him for sure.
I think it will take a few times around the league to get a handle on Brunson specifically, and the team in general. It takes a while for player and team tendencies and chemistry to congeal, and for enough adjustments to be faced, counteradjustments to be made, rotations to settle in, rust and early jitters to be shaken off, etc., etc., to pass judgment on anything. That goes for other teams as well. Last year’s Celts were a perfect example. They looked like shit until that game RJ won on a banked prayer, then went on a terrifying tear that culminated in a NBA finals appearance.
That’s why I’m glad that we have these three relatively soft games followed by a tough 7-game gauntlet so early on. We might catch some teams before they have settled in and before they have reliable info on who we are. Going into that stretch with some momentum would be great, so tonight is a nice opportunity for that. CHA aren’t pushovers even without Bridges, but a loss at home to them before this brutal stretch coming up would be very disappointing.
“Now, everybody knows that the pick the Dallas Mavericks owe the Knicks won’t be good because their floor is too high with a healthy Luka Doncic. What this comment presupposes is… maybe it isn’t?”
I mentioned that before the season started.
IMO, they clearly took a step backwards.
1. They did not replace Brunson and he was key part of their success in the 2nd half of the season and playoffs.
2. IMO, Dinwiddie played over his head last year down the stretch. He’s playing well again so far, but I don’t think he can sustain it and if he gets injured they are screwed even worse because they don’t have a decent backup.
3. Why they gave McGee 3 years and promised him the starting job is beyond me. He’s a backup and on his way down.
4. The Wood signing looks very good, but imo he’s not a starting C. He’s more of a PF. But they already have DFS starting at PF. I guess they can decide whether they want more offense or defense and use him at C occasionally to get the minutes.
My conclusion was that the pick has more value now than I expected mostly because I didn’t expect Cuban and management to be this bad at building around Doncic when initially it seemed like they understood what they had to do.
“A JB/Spida backcourt would have been a disaster in any kind of serious game.”
Yep.
I have a lot of opinions, but I usually don’t throw tantrums. I was having tantrums during that deal negotiation. He’s a very good player, but he was the wrong player next to Brunson.
At the very least, we have gotten a glimpse of what this team could be if things shake the right way. RJ has had a rough time, Hart looks like he’s still floundering a bit, Grimes hasn’t seen the floor yet, Rose looks rusty, Fournier hasn’t been in the flow, Mitch struggled with Adams, etc. And yet, we are a couple of key makes from 3 away from being 3-0.
And while some of my enthusiasm about Randle yesterday was tongue-in-cheek, I think some critical aspects of the change in his approach are real enough to trust going forward. I think we put him under a microscope a bit too much and criticize him for doing things that lots of players at his level do…he’s going to iso and take (and miss) some midrange shots, and that’s okay so long as it’s within reason, and is situationally appropriate. OTOH, I agree with E that some of his antics in crunch time of the Memphis game were counterproductive and concerning. But that’s what you get for $24-29 million AAV…a fringe All-Star with flaws. You can’t ignore that we wouldn’t have been in a position to win that game if it weren’t for what he did for 3.5 quarters.
re: Dallas, I think it’s reasonably possible that they are an 8th seed play-in team behind PHX, LAC, GSW, MEM, NOP, MIN, and DEN, and that the pick we own conveys in the 15-18 range. Luka is great, but without him that team is surely in the lottery.
And it wouldn’t shock me if Cuban pulls the plug and tanks for a shot at Wemby, similar to what he did to snag Luka. In other words, it’s not a lock that the pick conveys.
PGs that Brunson will face during the next 8 games:
LaMelo
Jrue
Spida
Trae
Maxey
Smart
DLo
Kyrie
We’ll know a lot more about how good he is after that.
Randle isn’t going to keep hitting 80%+ of his shots around the rim, but one thing to watch is a set of stats that Macri was first to highlight that has now been discussed pretty widely: right now he’s averaging just 1.48 dribbles per touch, and is holding the ball for just 2.8 minutes per game.
If you want to know why the Knicks are both better and eminently more watchable this year, that’s as big a reason as any this side of the addition of Brunson.
Randle is at his best when he’s causing chaos for the other team by weaponizing his speed and strength via constant movement of himself and the ball. He’s at his worst when he’s pounding the ball into the ground and chucking, even though this approach more or less worked for him in the empty stands year.
LaMelo is out tonight, so Brunson has an even tougher matchup as I alluded to earlier.
Never mind, LaMelo is out tonight. So is Rozier. It’s DSJ time!
(oops, crossed posts with you humper!)
Read an article written two years ago mentioning how Julius does meditation every day. So bringing it to the pre-game is not that big of a thing, but if it helps, great.
The hype train for this team seems to have already left the station. I wanted to go to the game tonight, which to be clear is against the Charlotte Hornets missing literally all of their good players.
Cheapest ticket in the building is $84. Watching at home it is!
Watching DSJ play will be an interesting subplot to the game. He might have that extra “revenge” motivation working for him.
Cuban isn’t really going to be able to figure out how to play things until he gets Frank back.
I’m really not that worried about Brunson’s defense. I mean, Anthony made 6 total field goals (missed 12) and some of them were high degree of difficulty.
There are very few PG’s in this league who are studs on both sides of the ball. Jalen will be fine.
A friend pinged me with a seat but I didn’t reply fast enough. I can remember last year talking about how Mike K’s season tickets would be so easy to sell. We started well last year too. Should be a fun one.
Cole Anthony goes by a lot of people. Brunson’s defense isn’t great but the entire point of having a scoring point is so you can fill in the defense behind him. Having a scoring center who can’t defend is a lot harder, it’s hard to make it back unless you have an elite three and d type.
And aesthetically, Brunson is a million times better. Just a step change. You get to watch a competent point and you get to watch Randle not try to play point guard. The ultimate win win.
d-mar, I don’t know that anyone is hugely worried. It’s more about figuring out how to mitigate it, in the same way that, say, the Hawks have to scheme around Trade’s deficiencies on that end. Right now, our starting backcourt features two guys who try defensively but are limited physically/athletically (Fournier more than Brunson, who is short but also strong), which is a problem even with Mitch to clean up their mistakes. So either we start Grimes over Fournier, if Grimes’ foot ever gets un-sore, or we experiment with one of Quickley or Cam in the starting lineup. (I’d probably go IQ, even though it would break up his wonderful pairing with Obi.)
Grimes makes more sense as the defensive pairing with Brunson, but he’ll have to show that he’s a consistent serious threat from 3 or the spacing will be an even bigger problem. Before all this injury stuff, that’s why Thibs was already leaning towards Fournier for now.
“Cuban isn’t really going to be able to figure out how to play things until he gets Frank back.”
I’m glad you said it. 🙂
Brunson looks strong enough that he might be able to body up 2s and serve as a decent defender against them.
Grimes swapping defensive assignments with him and taking on PGs could resolve our defensive woes quite nicely.
If Cam keeps up his play, I’d swap him and Fournier before IQ.
We need IQ’s usage on the 2nd unit and I’d rather not rely on Cam taking shots. Cam in a role where he defers is ideal until further notice.
“He’s at his worst when he’s pounding the ball into the ground and chucking, even though this approach more or less worked for him in the empty stands year.”
It’s harder to pound the ball and chuck when you aren’t bringing the ball up as often and the PG is deciding when and where to give it to you more often instead.
I expected his scoring, TOs, and assists to go down for that reason, but his efficiency almost has to rise. The real question or debate is by how much. That’s dependent on basketball IQ Randle.
Banchero & Bol² were the problems, and to a lesser extent Wendell, maybe not time to make conclusions on JB & E4.
You can pretty much throw out these 4 games in terms of evaluating where we stand on defense. Opening night is always weird, DET and ORL are young and not ready for prime time, and CHA is missing its starting backcourt.
I am really looking forward to seeing how we play against MIL on the road. They are obviously on a mission and even without Middleton they are a force to be reckoned with, so a beatdown is not necessarily indicative of anything. By the time we play CLE and ATL we should have much more accurate data on where the team stands. Both are teams with amazing strengths and glaring issues. CLE needs to figure out how Spida and Garland can share the ball, and we have good matchups against them. ATL is probably still working on assimilating Dejounte into the picture. So if we’re any good we should be able to pick off one of those games.
re: Small Sample Size Theatre, anyone notice that through 4 games, KAT is rocking a -2.3 BPM, which while bad is far superior to Ant Man’s -5.0 on a .496 TS%? Maybe Gobert is defending them out of force of habit…
They have also beaten OKC twice, and lost to the Jazz and Spurs. Not exactly a tough opening schedule…
I have a lot of real-life issues to ignore over the next five months.
preach it ess-dog…preach it brother…
Z-man, The Athletic’s T-Wolves beat writer has already put out two different columns that are asking whether it’s time to panic yet about this new roster. He also says they will almost certainly figure some stuff out, but with Ant-Man saying he operates better in smallball lineups, I’m not sure how easily this is fixed.
It’s pretty clear that Spida & Gobert were holding back *checks notes…* Jordan Clarkson.
None surprising, just official now.
I assume the nature of Deuce’s contract means they don’t have to do the year-to-year option thing like with these guys?
Alan, I believe second round contracts don’t require those decisions unless the team and player structure it that way, not sure the timeline is the same either.
“Alan says:
October 26, 2022 at 12:35
Z-man, The Athletic’s T-Wolves beat writer has already put out two different columns that are asking whether it’s time to panic yet about this new roster. He also says they will almost certainly figure some stuff out, but with Ant-Man saying he operates better in smallball lineups, I’m not sure how easily this is fixed.”
Obviously the numbers for Ant and KAT will improve, but their bench is hardly formidable. On a wishful note, maybe Ant becomes the disgruntled player we can trade for…throw in Mitch and they can run out the dreaded Tri-towers lineup.
Christian Wood’s per-36 numbers so far: 33.3 pts, 11.8 reb, TS 72.7 on 31.3 usage. He supposedly has a very poor attitude and doesn’t contribute to winning, but it’s hard to imagine a better start than this to his Mavs career.
And here’s an explanation on the Deuce thing:
Backs are damned tricky.
Backs are damned tricky.
Charlotte is a great candidate to come crashing to earth, as they are 2nd in the NBA in 3PT% 1st in the NBA in 3PT% allowed with opponents shooting .253 from downtown. Without Rozier and Lamelo this is a team we should be able to beat.
Even with those 2 we should be able to beat them. This is now a trap game, and we saw what happened in NO last night. Better be ready!
For the average person, I’m a proponent of deadlifting regularly, at moderate intensity, to build a strong back and avoid injury and pain. I recently went on a 12-day tennis bender (about 2 hrs a day) and felt zero back pain whatsoever. MPJ is just cursed with some fucked-up anatomy.
That contract could either win them a ring or curse them through Jokic’s prime. Doctor definitely sez he needs a backiotomy.
Looks like Porter dropping in the draft was justified. Top tier talent, Greg Oden availability.
Denver is in desperate need of defense. They might take a step back this year or need to move one of Porter/Jamal. Maybe there defense improves the longer out from injury they get, but neither were good defenders before.
I’ve had a bulging disc for years that occasionally flares up. And that fender bender I got into over the summer has aggravated it a bunch. Been doing PT, and today the orthopedist suggested I get an MRI, just to be sure what’s what.
I just want to thank everyone for your kindly embarrassed silence a few strands back when I reviewed the Hornets instead of the Magic.
Pretty much if it’s below the Mason-Dixon line I don’t really pay attention.
“Been doing PT, and today the orthopedist suggested I get an MRI, just to be sure what’s what.”
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I’m actually re-reading my MRI from 18 months ago. Two bulging discs but my current guy is locked in (*) that it’s degeneration of the facet joints that’s causing my pain.(***) Just had second round of platelet-rich plasma (**) five days ago. First round in July 2021 worked well for about 8 months, but because I make my living as a desk jockey, which is terrible for the lower back, the pain came back and I’m at round 2. I may actually get another opinion on this whole thing if the pain doesn’t recede significantly. My strong sense is that a lot of what is in the MRI has been there for several years at least, but was completely exacerbated by being sent home to work for COVID without any ergonomic preparation of any kind. Within a few weeks my back started to hurt and other than the 6-7 months post-PRP I, hasn’t been pain-free ever since. Annoying to say the least.
(*) At this point to a degree that’s starting to annoy a bit.
(**) First doctor took an X-ray which showed facet degeneration, hustled me in for a dignostic injection which she was overly optimistic about and then tried to get me to hop on the subscription hamster wheel and do pain-relieving injections which only last about 8 months. Wouldn’t even authorize an MRI. My response? Buh-bye.
(***) His logic is that there doesn’t seem to be any nerve impact because I don’t have pain shooting down my legs or somesuch, and therefore the bulging discs aren’t an independent pain source and so therefore it must be the facet joints. Color me increasingly skeptical.
good for you E for making sure you have a good understanding of the situation…
being passive regarding health care can be dangerous…
Sitting is the new smoking. And it’s one of those things I wish we had found out 20 years ago before I spent those years sitting at a desk.
Well, we knew, we just ignored it. And now I, too, have a bulging disc to show for it.
Sucks that we needed a global pandemic to reassess all the stupid things we baked into life. At least now I’ve got a home office, standing desk, and an active chair.
DSJr is going to mess us up tonight. I can feel it
“being passive regarding health care can be dangerous…”
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For anyone who thinks the typical doctor is out there focused on unlocking the mysteries of a patient’s case, a la House, please for your own sakes immediately disabuse yourselves of this notion.
Weirdly I spent 20+ years as a touring musician and it turns out it was actually GOOD for my health because I wasn’t sitting at a goddamn desk all day. Now that I’ve quit touring, it’s non-stop desk sitting, countless hours sitting in front of Logic Pro. So I’m making up for lost time! My back should be fucked up real good in no time.
lumbar support and a coccyx pad go a long way, old men
i only feel old, because i am old…
that is the reason i took up yoga about twenty yrs ago…people looked at me all cockeyed when i was going out at lunch for a class and i was like if i am sitting for 10 hours a day…i better stretch my shit out otherwise i was going to have some problems later on…
Healthcare knowledge has taken a huge step forward in my lifetime but imo healthcare in terms of actually trying to do the right thing for your patient long term has taken a step backwards.
When I was a kid, doctors still made house calls if you were sick, there was a much lower profit incentive driving the decision making, and they were actually trying to fix the problems as opposed to relieving the symptoms.
These days I feel that a lot of the expensive tests are more about covering their asses for insurance purposes or padding the profits of other areas of their large health group than actually necessary.
Even worse, I no longer trust the drug companies or my own doctors when they prescribe something. It’s all about symptom relief. I want problem solving. I take one pill and it causes problems that leads to another pill, which causes problems that leads to another pill. Screw that.
I am sure there are still loads of great doctors out there, but even the really good ones are often pressured from above about how they can treat patients. The way we practice medicine in this country is backwards. It should primarily be about prevention and good long term good decision making and not fixing things that are broken because of your lifestyle.
end of rant, but at least I haven’t had any back issues in 6-7 years
Strat wrote: doctors still made house calls if you were sick, there was a much lower profit incentive driving the decision making, and they were actually trying to fix the problems as opposed to relieving the symptoms.
I was in private practice for 42 years and made housecalls up until I retired from said practice less than 2 years ago. I still do a couple for my part-time retirement job.
The pressure is not only from the group that one might be part of but the hospital you are on staff. You must try treatments that are on the hospital flow chart for each diagnosis and use preferred medications or preferred prosthetics (objects used to treat inside the human body) when doing surgery. Failure to adhere makes life very difficult for said person.
I won’t even bother discussing pressures from the medical insurance companies or your malpractice insurance companies.
KnickFanInCelticLand,
That’s amazing. I didn’t even know doctors like you still existed. Your patients were very lucky.
Mitch!!!
Good start