ESPN.com: Sources: Kyrie Irving plays key role in Friday call with players

Kyrie Irving is [Jean Ralphio voice] the wooooorrrrsssssst

I mean, I agree with the poster who said the longer fans go without basketball, the more used to it people get, and they’ll stop missing it.

Regardless of your views on Covid and police protests, if players keep saying “there are more important things than basketball” (which is obviously true), then the fans will say “oh yeah, there are more important things than basketball!”

I want players to have a platform and speak their minds, but there are plenty of other things to divert my attention if they don’t play.

Seriously, for the first time in my life I am having back issues bad enough to be mulling permanent retirement from pickup basketball. It may not seem like a big deal for you young ‘uns but believe me, it’s really emotional. I have loved playing basketball regularly for over 50 years, and (knock on wood) never had a serious injury. So not being able to live vicariously through the NBA only adds to my despair. I could easily live without the other sports (honestly, I miss the majors in golf maybe most of all!)

ess-dog: the longer fans go without basketball, the more used to it people get, and they’ll stop missing it.

As a Knick fan, I’ve gone without any real basketball since sometime in the early 2000s. Can’t say I miss it that much anymore, either.

wouldn’t mind giving this guy another shot…

Apparently, Atkinson is gaining ground.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/258433/Kenny-Atkinson-Gaining-Legitimate-Internal-Support-As-Next-Head-Coach-Of-Knicks

jokic looks about 10 years younger…

“Apparently, Atkinson is gaining ground.”

The cynic/realist in me thinks this is disinformation leaked to assuage the feelings of Atkinson acolytes. “Well…. we gave him due consideration ….and then chose Thibs…..”

Apparently, Atkinson is gaining ground.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/258433/Kenny-Atkinson-Gaining-Legitimate-Internal-Support-As-Next-Head-Coach-Of-Knicks

It’s just such an obvious move that it makes a lot of sense if it is true (namely, the more that they think about it, the more obvious it should become), but I can’t hold out any hope. I mean, look at that story. “Kenny Atkinson is reportedly receiving “legitimate internal support” to be named the next head coach of the New York Knicks, sources told Ian Begley of SNY.

Atkinson is gaining support due to his ability to develop young players.” Oh, ya don’t say? Who could have ever thought of that?

As an aside, my kid was in the top-130 in the world and top-75 in the US in the Crossfit Games in her age bracket. I was doing it with her for a while and it was fun, especially the lifting stuff, but I got tired of being last to finish. When the gyms open back up. I’ll look into doing some hex bar stuff.

It’s a real no-brainer. There have been a bunch of good things that have bubbled up about Thibs lately but Atkinson is such an easy choice.

Also, and I know I shouldn’t, but since we have been talking about Chaz and because Jowles lives in Chaz and because I also love Monty Python, I had to post this.

It’s honestly one of the funniest things I have ever seen.

https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1271887686899511297

You know, if I were the hiring manager for someone and there was someone I knew pretty well and was on good terms with of course I would make sure he got an interview. But that wouldn’t mean I was intending to hire him. I would be just ensuring he had a fair shot. I might even think he wasn’t a good fit for the position, but I would do the hiring process including him to be fair. Then I would hope to end up with a good reason that I could tell him if some other candidate is the one chosen. If it’s an important job, you can’t hire someone who doesn’t fit just because you know him. That would be bad for both of you eventually.

So I buy it that Thibs’ connections with Rose could be why he’s being interviewed. He’s an obviously available experienced coach anyway. But I don’t buy it that those same connections mean he will be the one hired. If he gets hired it’s more likely Rose really decided he was the best candidate. And that is a very open question.

Not necessarily. His limits as a coach were readily apparent in the playoffs. It would have been awkward to replace him, but not unprecedented.

And I’m not saying that we should have, only that it wouldn’t have been crazy to have replaced him with a better coach. And it probably wouldn’t have made much difference, except maybe we would have eked into the playoffs that year.

Walton went like undefeated with the Dubs. Didn’t mean he was a great coach. Woodson was a known mediocre commodity.

The most ridiculous headline to article relationship I’ve ever seen. The headline says:

Kyrie Irving plays key role in Friday call with players

Then in the body of the piece:

All in all, his inquiries weren’t of weighty consequence.

Even in the era of clickbait that’s like what??? And then on the strength of this people are talking down on the guy. I don’t like him and didn’t want him on the Knicks but come on.

Walton went like undefeated with the Dubs. Didn’t mean he was a great coach. Woodson was a known mediocre commodity.

And Walton got a head coaching gig right away based on that, with multiple teams lining up to hire him.

You have to read further. Woj is saying that in the official discussion, Kyrie said nothing, but then secretly was putting together his own discussion with players urging the 90+ players he had on the conference call to boycott the season.

OK, yes, that does change the picture.

Isn’t Father’s Day next Sunday?

Oh man, you got me excited for a second that ALL of my kids had declined to wish me a happy Father’s Day.

dang THCJ, that’s a sweet set up…not that I would probably ever use it much, but I’m a bit jealous anyway…

one of my neighbors just re-did their garage and added in a smith machine…always wanted a smith machine…not that I’d use it much, but, just a cool looking piece of equipment…

I’m staring now at my “total gym” which I have set up in my bedroom and haven’t touched once in a couple of weeks now…

The Knicks have a lot of cap space and a few extra draft picks.

They can rent the cap space for more picks, give out a few 1 year deals to save the space for next year when there are better free agents available, or use the space and picks as assets to try to bring in a couple of legitimately good veteran players ready to compete for the playoffs now.

An all young team would probably better off in Atkinson’s hands, but a team trying to make the playoffs with a mix of veterans and young players may be better off with someone like Atkinson as an assistant to help with development.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1272255050358968323

The Knicks lose in this one too….

The Wizards don’t have much to package with Wall. Maybe the Cav throw something in to dump Love (he’d be a good fit for us, no?) Maybe the Pistons and Blake? Maybe the Sixers and Horford? Blazers? Sacto and Barnes? Not sure what options will be out there, despite the conditions.

The players have a right to protest or advance social causes any way they see fit including ruffling feathers and making people uncomfortable if they think that’s how they will be most effective. But I think it’s worth pointing out that a segment of the population has very little respect for the opinions of Hollywood, musicians, or athletes. In fact, right or wrong, one could say they are turned off by mixing politics with entertainment. They especially don’t like being pontificated to by people that in many cases have less education, no expertise, and haven’t even examined the data as well as they have on whatever the subject may be .

I have no idea what the players are thinking, but imho I think it should be small and symbolic as a group and leave the heavy lifting to people with expertise in the area or that seem especially educated, experienced, and informed on the subject. Someone like Kareem Abdul Jabbar doing all the Sunday political shows with experts on policing and some community leaders etc… might be more effective than whatever the players are planning. Everyone knows Kareem and he’s an excellent and educated communicator.

There’s a reason Colin Kaepernick’s efforts failed and why the ratings for the Academy awards go down every year. People still love football and movies. Most people are very sympathetic to people suffering from injustice and are open to major change and reform no matter what the issue . They just don’t want the case brought to them by people that in many cases know less than they do as if fame gives them some special insights. The players can do whatever they want, but if the goal is to be effective I think the idea is to convince people and not turn them off. Send out guys like Kareem.

I was reading Jonathan Macri’s Ronnie Brewer interview, and man if it isn’t completely obvious that Dolan really fucked up with his weird wait-and-bullshit statement…

I mean, puting aside the main thing, which is that it would be the obvious right thing to do as an owner of an athletic club made up mostly of people of color to stand up with every other company that showed solidarity with BLM. I mean, your company wouldn’t even stand out, so many other companies did it, MSG would fit in, and be forgotten, and go right back to business. So what was the downside… sheesh

But take it further, it looks like athletes are – justifiably – REALLY going to care about Dolan’s anti-stand and say, ‘hey, the only possible reason you decide to not take a stand… is racist’.. then you’re SOL.

Imagine an alternate universe, where Dolan acted like Tsai, and offered a place to ‘assemble’ in front of his building- and then completely support and speak up… talk about a statement, a free one at that, and the chance to INSTANTLY be seen differently, which would be huge here.

I think Dolan really screwed the pooch on this one, and although the FO hires were good (not great- it seems the running theme is ‘hire guys with relationships, get some stars, here, use the capologist to do it’)… it may not help when players don’t want to come here.

I, for one, don’t really care that much about Dolan’s slowness on the draw or terseness of his statement. There is nothing wrong with his words, and at the end of the day, actions speak louder than words. I care far more about 32 football teams blackballing Kaepernick over his kneeling.

MSG has promoted lots of social causes over the years, often well ahead of the competition. The Knicks have had more Black front office personnel over the last 20 years than most NBA teams. Dolan has many deep flaws, but tone deafness to racism is very low on my personal list. If anything, he is just criminally inept at public relations.

I have no idea what the players are thinking, but imho I think it should be small and symbolic as a group and leave the heavy lifting to people with expertise in the area or that seem especially educated, experienced, and informed on the subject.

True, the Knicks let Phil Jackson become their top executive without any expertise in the area and he did fail miserably. So you’ve given us something to think about.

The First Amendment is the single most important safeguard we have against tyranny, and I’m glad that our celebrities are weighing in, regardless of their stands. It is what makes social progress in the realm of human rights possible. I believe that we are seeing a seismic shift in the power of freedom of speech, of the press, and of assembly due to the advent of the social media age. Like a powerful new medicine (albeit with horrific side effects) everything is being flushed out into the open, every one of us is a watchdog, every one of us owns our words and deeds for cyber-perpetuity. Social justice, from discrimination to police brutality to vigilantism to corruption in politics, courts of law and prisons, is under a microscope that was not possible without social media access for all Amerticans. Every one of us has the capacity to be an activist and/or a journalist of sorts.

We still have a looooooong way to go, but it’s pretty cool to be witnessing what is going on in the streets of our country right now.

They especially don’t like being pontificated to by people that in many cases have less education, no expertise, and haven’t even examined the data as well as they have on whatever the subject may be .

I like how you couched this garbage in what “other people” might think. Some of your word choices made it pretty clear, at least in my view, where you stand too.

Anyway, every single black person has a more valid and valuable opinion on the relevant issues than any non-black person regardless of education, expertise, or data analysis. This is a situation where qualitative data just so happens to matter a lot.

On the off-chance your actual concern is that taking a stand would alienate “other people,” why the fuck should anyone care? Anyone alienated by a stand of some sort was almost certainly never winnable in the first place, and likely isn’t much of an NBA fan anyway.

I’m not a huge fan of either kyrie or dwight howard, I kind of get what their saying though…

the insane rate of current unemployment is one of the reasons that people have been able to make such a strong statement with the protests that have been ongoing for a few weeks…that shit that happened at Wendy’s on friday continues to demonstrate the need for public pressure and change…

I mean damn, just in the last few weeks there have been multiple reminders as to why this police reform is so critical…

it’s amazing that we are all starting to get a chance to see some of these body cam videos, fuck 2 shots to the back…otherwise the killing Friday would have been some 3 minute mention on the local news, and – it would not have been truthful…

if you’re broadcasting NBA games throughout the day, it will take away from the focus of protest and reform…

I was all hyped for the return of basketball, I’m not so sure now…

Thanks, Owen. He’s just such a despicable human being that it’s hard for me to expect much from him. Whether from hopeless tone-deafness and ineptitude, or from harboring virulent “law and order” feelings, I guess it’s totally unacceptable either way.

Dolan likes to cosplay as a blues man and he likes to starfuck people like Isiah Thomas and he kept Steve Mills around as his personal toady for a long time but that’s about as far as he goes when it comes to giving a shit about black people.

HAHAHAHA…. Humpy…. were you in such a state of high dudgeon when NBC Today Show Correspondent said this to a seated United States Senator the other day?

” The moment occurred during an interview with NBC’s Craig Melvin, who pressed Scott to respond to a number of questions about the senator’s efforts toward criminal justice reform and the White House’s response to the national debate surrounding the wrongful death of George Floyd.

“Senator, you have faced a fair amount of criticism,” Melvin said, “especially over the past few days, because you are the only black Republican senator.“ (there are 2 AA democrat Senators, correct?)

The NBC anchor, who is black, added, “SOME HAVE SAID” that your party is using you, “THEY’VE” even thrown around the word ‘token,’ as well. Your response to that criticism?”

He wasn’t actually saying that himself, right…. just couched in with the ubiquitous “some people said” (psssst….. me!”)

I bet you thought that was really cute, right??????

Save the outrage for someone else……

Raven: Yes, some people won’t like it. But that’s partly the point — letting them know that they’re rapidly becoming the ugly foamy backwash of history.

Correct. Not liking it is fine by me. Believing that players should face repercussions is not.

Let me get this right: you want TNFH to defend a question asked by a news anchor on a program he likely doesn’t watch and has never commented on in the past? That’s some serious straw, Bob.

I was about to say, I did not feel strongly in any direction when someone asked Tim Scott a question on cable news

https://theathletic.com/1869755/2020/06/15/hollinger-the-ten-nba-free-agent-contracts-that-look-the-best-right-now/?source=dailyemail

Good piece that touches a few things we’ve discussed here. A few highlights without giving it all away:

So if rookie deals and superstar max contracts are the biggest bargains, there has to be another place where teams get less value.

That place is called “free agency.” Every other kind of contract besides rookie deals and superstar maxes are much harder by which to “win.” In particular, deals worth between $5 million and the max have proven perilous, which makes sense: A market that pushes down the contracts of rookies and superstars will inevitably push up all the others.

As a result, treading the in-between part – anybody who isn’t either a rookie or a superstar — is a rocky landscape littered with contractual shipwrecks. The S.S. Midlevel Exception, in particular, has crashed upon these shores many times.

While the center position has a much higher “replacement level” floor than the other positions – you can find halfway decent centers relatively easily – Zubac is good enough that he still offers significant value on this contract.

I think one distinction is that person making it clear they are speaking on behalf of themselves rather than the company. Wasn’t that part of the issue with Morey?

Bob continues to think that left-of-center cable news anchors speak for left-of-center citizens. Gee, I wonder why.

“Bob continues to think that left-of-center cable news anchors speak for left-of-center citizens. Gee, I wonder why”.

Oh cut out the BS Jowles…. don’t tell me you were outraged when you read that exchange and didn’t give him a little “attaboy”…. hahahahaha

I’m not sure you have accepted that I don’t have television and further do not give a fuck about what The Today Show, is trying to pass as journalism or analysis. You really think this is a team sport for me like it is for you.

“I’m not sure you have accepted that I don’t have television and further do not give a fuck about what The Today Show, is trying to pass as journalism or analysis. You really think this is a team sport for me like it is for you.”

Jowles… I haven’t watched the Today show since Dave Garroway was the host. I saw the clip on Real Clear Politics news aggregator. Since you seemed so well informed every time the police breaks wind somewhere I’m guessing you get your news somewhere if you don’t own a TV.

I’ll accept at face value you don’t consider yourself part of the “team”….. you just happen to agree with the team 106% of the time….. you free thinker, you!

Dolan likes to cosplay as a blues man

i don’t know about that…every pic i googled came up with a bunch of white folks in it…hmmmm, maybe it’s just for the studio that he has some folks of color playing with him…

i had a friend who used to work the monterey jazz festival…one year he got me the “tent” badge thing so i could sit where the musicians were hanging out…i’ll never forget listening to these two old black dudes swearing that white people could not play the blues…

yeah, i didn’t say shit…just kind of nodded my head and drank…i was young…

i do disagree though…clapton, van morrison, allman, plant – blue-eyed blues… it may not be common, but it is possible…

dang, i just looked at the names i wrote – not too hard to tell what part of the century i was born in 🙂

The FDA just revoked authorization for hydroxychloroquine. Was causing too many heart attacks. I ccan’t wait to see how Fox News spins it.

people are going to be very ideologically confused when they try to figure out whether they are supposed to be afraid of a vaccine trump brags got emergency use authorization because he booting it twice a day for two months

TheClashFan:
FWIW and for entertainment value only:

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-nba-trade-rumours-new-york-knicks-looking-to-make-big-changes-with-marc-gasol-and-one-more-player/

Mar Gasol, eh?

I’ve said this before, Marc Gasol makes sense for these Knicks because it opens up the paint for Elf to run the PnR with Randle. Randle should get back up near a .600TS% and the D should improve with Gasol over Taj.

That’s a low seed playoff team at least. Of course I don’t advocate for that, but since that’s continuously been the misplaced goal, the Knicks might actually meet it if Marc doesn’t fall of a cliff.

According to the article, the knicks are also looking at Kaminsky or Ibaka, they would slot in next to Mitch and open the floor for him too. But not sure they’re really worth it.

the thing that always intrigues me with the smith machines was the chance to use free weights without needing a partner to spot, and, having to fear death while working out alone…i think it was one of those final destination movies that got me thinking the whole death by bench press thought…

We use something like this, with the safety arms always mounted, even when L.J. is spotting me.

(am I allowed to agree with someone who has disagreed with me on the internet or will I be banned)

Fuck no, and fuck u!!!!!!! But seriously, welcome to the Greek Chorus! Hope you’ve been practicing your virtue signalling — we’re gonna need it if we want to sanctimoniously shame conservatives into releasing those migrant children from their holding cells!

That looks AI-generated to me.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/authors/

Their “authors” list looks like it’s 20% actual people and 80% Twitter eggbots.

don had dwight and michael bennett (defensive end for the cowboys) on the show…

wow, michael bennett is an excellent speaker…clear, simple and smooth…

dwight is still dwight…I think the stance of not resuming games is something to be considered – it’s just the voices saying it have a really hard time effectively communicating…

I’ve enjoyed listening to some of the different governors and mayors speak since the beginning of the pandemic – we desperately need younger leadership than mid 70’s and beyond…

I still haven’t heard stacy adams speak, I’m curious, kamela is a little too “stern” for me…I’ve seen images of stacey speaking, haven’t heard the words yet…

“All I know is nobody tells Scott Baio to “shut up and act”.”

When people like Scott Baio and Alyssa Milano open their mouths they accomplish little and typically make fools of themselves. I’m not sure either is helping their own side.

For the record, I never said anyone should “shut up and dribble” or “shut up and act”.

I said the players should do whatever whatever they think would be most effective.

What I argued was that not only are actors and athletes typically ineffective, they can sometimes create backlash that hurts their cause because some people resent being pontificated to by people they don’t consider experts.

Again. that’s why the ratings for the Academy awards keep going down. People may be interested in climate change, but no that’s thoughtful wants to hear what actors think about it non stop throughout a show about great actors and great movies, They tune out and sometimes there’s a backlash.

That’s why I suggested using a player like Kareem.

He has been especially thoughtful speaking out on social issues, is educated, has experience with racism, and is known around the world. IMO, that’s a far superior approach than some other possible options the players might consider.

It’s not a matter of free speech. Of course they have a right to free speech. So do Scott and Alyssa. The point I am making – or rather the question I am asking is – “what works best?”.

I don’t think having Kyrie and Lebron as the voices of basketball is such a great idea. One thinks the earth is flat and other other is a hypocrite on China. Let Kareem and others like him do it.

“It was all about China’s blood money, start to finish.”

100%

That’s why I consider some of the most outspoken NBA coaches hypocritical frauds also. Every thoughtful person out there now knows they are frauds. Why would anyone consider them some kind of moral authority on anything? You just tune them out and if they annoy you enough you stop watching. That doesn’t help.

Oh great, reub is back.

All exercise is good for you, but Jowles is correct in saying that moving heavy weights is the very best thing for humans as they age. I can finally admit that, as much as I hate gym culture.

BUT… I do think bodyweight exercise is the next best thing, especially when done as HIIT. It’s just boring as hell lol.

It’s possible to become a serious athlete without any equipment at all (maybe a bar at least), but it takes a shit ton of willpower and commitment.

Oh great, reub is back.

I mean, I dunno, maybe he is, but not in this instance.

I far prefer HIIT because I am lazy and it’s convenient. I totally agree lifting is the best thing for you but my experiment in trying to get back into it with a trainer, just ended up with me hurting myself or aggravating existing injuries. So I stick to lighter weights and bodyweight stuff.

China is complicated. More than half a billion people have been lifted out of the most dire poverty imaginable over 40 years. 500 million more to go. Obviously, it’s an authoritarian regime that has trampled minority rights and done a bunch of other terrible shit. But it’s not like the rest of the world hasn’t looked the other way too and benefited tremendously.

Honestly, when people criticize the NBA for its stance on China it just makes me chuckle. Is there anyone in America who is not just as complicit? Every aspect of American life in the last 30 years has depended on China in one way or another.

Here’s a thought RE: PG

Considering we are absolutely getting a PG in the draft, would anyone here consider offering Payton and DSJ for Schroeder if OK really doesn’t wanna move CP3?

I actually would

Yeah too much HIIT will stress the average body out too much (we already deal with enough daily stress amirite?) I bought an Airdyne earlier this year and it’s brutal, but it’s really best as a complement to strength training.

For bodyweight training, you can achieve more bulk by isolating more (one-armed pushups and the like), but it’s just a lot easier to use weights (p.s. – I’m making it sound like I work out a ton, but I’ve fallen off quite a bit over the last month or so and am none too pleased about it!)

That safety squat bar looks interesting. Would relieve a lot of pressure on my shoulder which is one major problem area. My knees aren’t great either. Have done mostly hex bar and that really is the easiest and best for me.

Going to have to wait till this pandemic is over anyway!

Re: point guard, I think this team has to just overpay for VanVleet because no matter who they draft, that point guard won’t be ready to start for a while, and Elfrid/DSJ/Frank clearly aren’t the answer.

Owen, try dropping the weight and focusing on the deepest squats you can with a SSB. You’ll see a lot of quad development with that bar, as it’s closer to a front squat in form (upright posture, weight shifted forward, more ab engagement).

I had bad knee bursitis while hiking with any kind of distance or elevation gain when I weighed more than I should have, and it was a combination of bodyweight creep and a lack of quad strength. A few years ago, I hadn’t even reached the top of Observation Point at Zion National Park and my knee had locked up completely, to the point where passerbys asked if I had suffered an injury and if I needed help. Now I regularly go on 10-mile walks on consecutive days with no pain at all, which I attribute to a whole lot of quad muscle around my knee.

Oh, and one last thing — I got a pair of parallettes for weighted decline push-ups, and man, they are amazing. The extra couple inches at the bottom of the movement put so much tension into the pecs, and of course, doing push-ups with bars instead of on the ground will save your wrists over the years. Makes the movement much harder and will help keep mobility in the shoulder and pecs.

I was surprised to find out that full ROM resistance training can yield as much mobility development as static stretching does. I always thought it would be a balancing act between lifting and stretching, but it turns out that you can do both at the same time.

Olympic weightlifting shoes are a must for people with knee issues, too. I don’t think I would lift without them.

I was pretty devastated when the gyms closed and immediately ordered a pair of loadable dumbbells and olympic weights. They took forever to come since all home fitness equipment was backordered up the wazoo, but I got them and am doing a pretty standard 4-day upper/lower dumbbell routine (https://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/dumbbell-only-upper-lower-workout-routine) while throwing in as much cardio as possible on the off days.

Honestly, I’m not 100% sure I’ll be going back to the gym. As long as you can throw together a makeshift bench, the money and time you save vs the gym sure seem worth it to me. The only things that might bring me back are:

1) the squat rack, goblet/pile squats don’t quite hit the same
2) indoor cardio equipment–I’m new to the world of running outside and while it’s mostly perfectly pleasant now…not looking forward to December

Dumbbell lunges? It’s not the same, but it’s something.

jowles thank you — i’m on the verge of buying a bunch of equipment from scratch and this thread has been really useful. question. does a safety squat bar help someone (unnamed) whose instinctive form seems to err frighteningly toward back rounding?

And that is precisely the problem. I get my underwear 4 cents a pair cheaper while the “1%” rakes in bazillions. In the meantime we have destroyed the industrial base in America and become a nation of very well educated people and a bunch of baristas and Uber drivers.

You’re not entirely off-base here. Bernie Sanders and other Democrats with strong ties to the labor movement were warning about these outcomes all the way back during the MFN debate, etc.

I know your boy likes to sort of rant incoherently in a way that may or may not be addressing them too, but he’s had plenty of time and has barely made a dent with regards to outsourcing, manufacturing jobs, and labor protections for the baristas and Uber drivers you mentioned. What gives, bob?

The balance of the bar forces you to stay upright, so if anything curves, it will be your upper back, which leads to collapsing forward, and you’ll just fail the rep before it does any damage to you. It seems virtually impossible to have lower back curve with a safety bar, provided you’re doing a safe load relative to your strength level.

Here’s a video from a few months back, showing that “collapsing” tendency. Spine remains neutral, but my chest tilts forward involuntarily. This is form breakdown, but it somehow remains safe despite me being a bit overloaded. If I did this with a barbell, I bet my spine would have turned into mom’s spaghetti.

https://imgur.com/a/gDDGD0K

You also eliminate the scapular contraction needed for a sturdy back squat, since you don’t have to create a platform for the bar to rest on. You can ignore your elbows and wrists and shoulders altogether and focus on maintaining a tight core (hold your breath before and throughout the movement, until you reach the starting point again!) and engaging your back.

I would suggest the EliteFTS Yoke bar, or the Titan Fitness one if you’re not concerned about paying money to Chinese IP thieves. Cheap SSBs are bad, bad, bad. The Rogue one is nice but the EliteFTS is worth every penny.

Yeah, nothing quite like a fully loaded squat. Hell, I miss the leg press machine sometimes. My quads are rarely as tired as the rest of my body at the end of a hard squat session.

thanks that’s really helpful

“You’re not entirely off-base here. Bernie Sanders and other Democrats with strong ties to the labor movement were warning about these outcomes all the way back during the MFN debate, etc.

I know your boy likes to sort of rant incoherently in a way that may or may not be addressing them too, but he’s had plenty of time and has barely made a dent with regards to outsourcing, manufacturing jobs, and labor protections for the baristas and Uber drivers you mentioned. What gives, bob?”

A lot of politicians talk a good game but my boy as you said was the only one in the last 30 years who slapped tariffs on the CCP and has actually tried to negotiate a better deals with them. The notion that we can just leak a half a trillion to China a year interminably is complete folly just as the notion we can be an economically strong country with a primarily service economy is just complete nonsense. The notion that you can continue to import cheap labor to depress the wages of working people forever is just as much folly. Look at the reaction you got from the ex factory workers of the midwest in 2016.

But the idea that you can pay baristas and uber drivers a wage commensurate to a 60’s auto worker is more folly because the product/service they produce doesn’t have that much real value.

You can’t charge $40 for a latte or $40 for a 3 mile uber ride to generate the revenue to pay the employee like you can for 10 tons of steel that industrial workers can generate.

You need to create value to get a good wage….. most service jobs don’t do that.

Jowles sounds so much smarter when he’s not talking basketball…

Add libertarian to that blanket statement, Owen. So many goddamn Gadsden flags in the backgrounds of weightlifting content, and often, without irony, the Thin Blue Line American flag right next to that one…

Legendary Gawker piece.

Is aggro Frank real? 51.2% TS! 3rd best in on/off behind only Mitchell Robinson and deadly sniper Wayne Ellington!

I don’t know about that Z-man, because if he just maintains the stats quoted in the article for the second half of the season, he’s probably already that. Point guards usually don’t have as good shooting stats as other positions. A 52% TS and 20% usage is probably ok for that role and he plays good defense too. It’s hard to believe he’s reached his ceiling at what, 21 years old?

Thank god we have a stronk 540 min from Frank in the second half of last season which allows us to discount the 3,257 from the rest of his career.

KnickfaninNJ: I don’t know about that Z-man, because if he just maintains the stats quoted in the article for the second half of the season, he’s probably already that. Point guards usually don’t have as good shooting stats as other positions. A 52% TS and 20% usage is probably ok for that role and he plays good defense too. It’s hard to believe he’s reached his ceiling at what, 21 years old?

Even with the 52% TS% he’s not a good player yet. He makes tons of mistakes out there on both ends. If he werr a utility starter on a good team right now, he’d be a huge liability. But yeah, I could see him being a Trevor Ariza/Doug Christie/Mario Chalmers-level complementary player (that’s a range from top-to-bottom) if he continues to improve.

Our resident Frankophiles have really gotten lazy if the new talking point is that he amassed a 52% TS% in his best 500 minute sample

Frank is a winning scratch off lottery pick-et
waiting to be scratched!

I’d never seen that Gawker post before. That was hilarious…fractions breaking the minds of weightlifters…

I still think my wife’s ass was the greatest I’ve ever seen. But I’ve never seen Jowles’s (at least, not that I know of…). I’m willing to be convinced, but only with irrefutable visual evidence.

Whatever Frank N’s ceiling is won’t happen unless he stops getting hurt all the time…those groin issues…

I’m willing to be convinced, but only with irrefutable visual evidence.

i believe we all have had a chance to view mister jowles glorious bum…what’s really freaky is that despite him being all buffed up he has an amazingly smooth voice…they all sound good, but, check out “Want”…it’s a bit hard to reconcile that voice banging out some heavy squats though…

worse yet would be the thought of some muscled up dude sitting down and whooping your ass in chess…that just wouldn’t be fair…

yes, our very own THCJ is full of surprises…it all makes me think – i was cool once too, it’s just been a while 🙂

My eyes are up here, Owen.

worse yet would be the thought of some muscled up dude sitting down and whooping your ass in chess…that just wouldn’t be fair…

Just imagine the same guy circa 2013, having just completed a graduate degree with high marks, walking into a Honda dealership asking for a job to deliver car parts for $9 bucks an hour, and the two dealership bros looking at my resume, then at each other, then laughing, “Are you serious?” It ain’t all roses, my dude.

But yeah, if we play 100 chess games, you will lose 100 times.

I enjoyed the Op-ed by Kareem about Gone With the Wind.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kareem-abdul-jabbar-why-gone-wind-needs-a-warning-label-not-a-ban-1298347

I still don’t miss basketball and at this stage I’ve already forgotten whether I used to like basketball.

Curling anyone?

Chess anyone?

I watched a fantastic finals between Carlsen and Crauana a few days ago. I was shocked at how well Caruana played in that tournament. He’s more of a Classical chess player. His Rapid and Blitz games are much lower. He had the champ on the ropes, but champions are champions for more reasons than their talent and skills. Champions rise when nothing else we get the job done. Carlsen did it again.

“Every aspect of American life in the last 30 years has depended on China in one way or another.”

And that is precisely the problem. I get my underwear 4 cents a pair cheaper while the “1%” rakes in bazillions. In the meantime we have destroyed the industrial base in America and become a nation of very well educated people and a bunch of baristas and Uber drivers.”

I have no formal education in economics, but it became a passion in my late 20s when I finally had a savings account. I fell for the “free trade” and “globalism” mantra for about 30 years. I consider it the greatest intellectual blunder of my life.

Shams says Knicks interviewing 76ers assistant coach Ime Udoka. https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1273351275225251840

What do we know about him?

Ime Udoka is a long time Poppovich assistant. He played for Pop for like 3 years and then after he retired in 2012 he became a Spurs assistant until 2019, when he went to coach on Brett Brown’s staff.

I’ll take that all day long.

Yeah, Ime Udoka is a top of the line coaching prospect. I’d be totally fine with him. I’d probably still pick Atiknson over him, but Udoka would be a close second. I’m thrilled that they’re interviewing him.

These coaching interview names make me think that we haven’t given Leon Rose enough credit for the amount of people he might actually know.

We’re interviewing Chris Fleming as well. He had a ton of success in Germany and was the lead assistant in Chicago this season after working with Kenny Atkinson in Brooklyn from 2016-2019.

Speaking of Chicago, I hope we target Kris Dunn to compete for a starting job. The guy is a phenomenal defender and learned how to not completely tank an offense with his shooting this past season.

How dynamic is the fake crowd noise being used in the EPL games? Does the crowd roar/boo at all?

I’ll take the fake crowd noise.

that’s interesting…i watch more than my share of disney and nick shows, they use laugh-tracks a lot…i’m not usually okay with the notion of being obviously deceived, and still being okay with it all…danger force and raven’s home are okay, but, they ain’t really all that funny, like every other line audience laugh kind of funny…

it is an effective tool though…we certainly are built for deception…

Trying to ignore obviously dumb Frank related stuff these days, but this is the most hilarious part of the Frankophile narrative to me. Dude has played thousands and thousands of minutes despite being one of the worst players in the NBA. Pretty sure there’s no team in the league he would’ve played more for during that time.

Yet somehow he hasn’t gotten a fair shake, and he’ll clearly play even more for all the good teams lining up to trade for him! Frank Ntilikina’s about to get 3000 minutes for the Bucks baby!

I am probably one of those Frankophiles you refer to, but I still agree with you that Frank has certainly gotten minutes, even with bringing in other point guards to compete for the position. He’s won the job of backup point guard over DSJ, Mudiay and I’ve forgotten who else, so it’s not like the coaches paid no attention to him either.

No self-respecting person with an ounce of humor appreciates a laugh track. That’s all I’ve got to say about the NBA right now.

The fake crowd sound effect is an easy but also dull way to “decorate” an nba game with empty seats.
I’ d prefer a more creative way full of music from Wagner to Morbid Angel, sound effects, movie snippets, animal sounds, porn sounds, circus sounds and other stuff.
For example Morricone’s Ecstasy of Gold would be more fun during the last minutes of a close game.
Or Porn sounds during a blowout game!
Think about it Adam.
Special occasions need special effects!

Of all the threads to randomly pop in on — this one is a goodie. I thought I was making progress by purchasing a jump rope to melt away my quarantine figure. I’m happy like Larry.

Well Trump is really owning the libs with that pro-concentration camp take. Excited to see how they spin it if they even bother. It’s just amazing to live in a country where something like that gets reported and everyone is like, “yep, that checks out.”

I like the idea of Udoka. He was a Knick for a minute right? Was always a heady though undertalented player.

They still have Whiteside and Collins

Right, today’s liberals look back fondly on FDR’s internment of Japanese-Americans. They would never criticize him for that!!

What is “Sunrise at Campobello?”

Was that a serious point you were making or a joke?

I am glad that we can all agree concentration camps are bad. It’s good to have some consensus around here about something other than Dolan being an ass.

“What is “Sunrise at Campobello?”

A movie made about the early life of FDR in the early ’60’s (maybe?)

I fully support Z-man’s campaign to remove FDR from the dime.

Yeah, sure, FDR was no DJT. Shocking how he was elected 4 times, all by landslides. If only FDR could have unified the country with his words and deeds like DJT does. Just ask DJT, he’ll tell you

I could imagine this DJT tweet: FDR was a liberal hack, and boring, Those fireside chats? Sad! What a dope! Overrated! Would have been impeached if he didn’t die! With real peaches! We didn’t need to fight that war. I would have used tarriffs and then made great deals with Germany and Japan. Don’t believe the fake news, Hitler wasn’t against the Jews, I heard he was even part Jewish. I actually asked him about it, and he denied it, and denied it very strongly. And I heard from a very smart person that FDRs mother was in on the Lincoln assassination. Killed our second most beloved Republican president, next to me. We didn’t need to fight that civil war either. Ruined our economy and cost so many lives, especially so many great southern generals. I would have made a great deal, that’s what I do, make deals. And these police problems we have today, you never had them back then. Make the Confederacy great again!

I should add that his G league team is in the Sixers organization and the Sixers don’t need a center which could be a reason he is still in G league and probably readily available.

No interest in defending internment and if there was a movement to stop honoring FDR in various ways because of it I would have no problem with that, but proooooobably worth noting that, while horrible, internment is still pretty damn far from “trying to secede from the country in order to protect the institution of chattel slavery.”

Are people “burning” copies of Gone With The Wind? Because as far as I can tell all that happened is that it was temporarily removed from HBO Max.

“I am probably one of those Frankophiles you refer to, but I still agree with you that Frank has certainly gotten minutes, even with bringing in other point guards to compete for the position. He’s won the job of backup point guard over DSJ, Mudiay and I’ve forgotten who else, so it’s not like the coaches paid no attention to him either.”

If you are tanking and the idea is to develop your young talent, you don’t bring in Burke, Mudiay, DSJr, Payton, and even try Trier and RJ Barret at PG over your young player. That goes double if one of his primary problems is confidence.

You do what they did with Knox last year. You put him out there, live with the mistakes, and try to develop him.

Look what happened to Knox this year. The pulled a “Frank” on him. His confidence fell apart and he regressed in some ways instead of taking a step forward.

Furthermore, Frank started FEWER games than both Mudiay and DSJr last year. Granted some of that was his injuries, but MUDIAY was given the starting job even though he sucks and was out at the end of the year. They shit all over Frank last year.

This year he was given more of an opportunity only because Payton was hurt (still another replacement), DSjr was hurt and had personal problems, and Trier and RJ didn’t work (but they tried both). They did everything possible to let him know he’s not a player they value or that they were going to try to develop at PG. I’m surprised they didn’t make Randle the PG for awhile,

The team is allowed to do whatever it wants and fans can think whatever they want.

My point is, if you are Frank and you aren’t asking for a trade you are being foolish. They have been screaming for two years that he is not a priority. If he was, they’d start him, live with the results (which incidentally have been much better when he’s on the court), and stop bringing in every retread and scrub around the NBA to play in front of him unless there are injuries.

All I’m saying is trade him for his own good. He deserves better than to play for a cesspool organization.

“Just took down the FDR fathead in my bedroom so that I can remain intellectually consistent.

I implore all fellow members of the libtard diaspora to do the same.”

The journey of a thousand miles starts with one small step…..

“No interest in defending internment and if there was a movement to stop honoring FDR in various ways because of it I would have no problem with that, but proooooobably worth noting that, while horrible, internment is still pretty damn far from “trying to secede from the country in order to protect the institution of chattel slavery.”

I would guess the 120,000 or so Japanese Americans would beg to differ with you. You know when your best argument to put a good spin in it is…. “Well…. FDR didn’t enslave them and sell them,” your argument is kinda like putting whipped cream on dog shit…. it doesn’t do much to improve the taste.

“Your whole schtick here assumes there is virtue in consistency. I would challenge that assumption.

It’s ok to take a position today that contradicts a position you took yesterday, as long as you believe it’s right.”

People’s positions are absolutely able to and often should evolve. However, you aren’t actually trying to say that Nancy Pelosi’s opinion has evolved and she’s had a moment of epiphany of some sort and isn’t just using this “issue” in statuary hall as rank political opportunism, are you?

Wm of Ockham most certainly does not approve of your message. :-0

“If you could take bobneptune and put him in a time machine and send him to 1942, do you think he’d be all up in arms about internment? Somehow I doubt it.

I do love when Woke Neptune shows up here tho.”

I am pretty consistent in my views of the US Constitution. I’d like to think I’d be just as true to them in 1942 as in 2020…. but I’m not that perfect to actually know.

If you are tanking and the idea is to develop your young talent, you don’t bring in Burke, Mudiay, DSJr, Payton, and even try Trier and RJ Barret at PG over your young player. That goes double if one of his primary problems is confidence.

82 x 48 = 3,936. You also have overtime, though, so a truly smart team would have given Frank Ntilikina somewhere in the neighborhood of 4,000 minutes per season.

Hey, maybe Thibodeau will realize the error of our prior ways.

“I would guess this is completely wrong, actually. Do you have any reason to believe Japanese Americans regard the horrors of internment as worse than the horrors of slavery, or are you just being an ass?”

No , just being logical. If tomorrow Trump declared, “I think noblefacehumpers are a danger to our liberty and we are going to haul all of them out of their homes and ship them a thousand miles away a week from next Tuesday and put them behind barbed wire for a few years… I’m just guessing quoting the immortal words of Demi Moore in a A Few Good Men you might say, ” I very strenuously object!”

Did FDR sell them or cut their feet off like in ROOTS, um…. no but pretty close.

And thanks for defending ACTUAL racism by parsing words and splitting hairs.

The problem with the idea of Frank Ntilikina demanding a trade is Leon Rose would naturally ask his agent to find a team willing to give up, like, a single second round pick for him and that’s where the conversation would end

People’s positions are absolutely able to and often should evolve. However, you aren’t actually trying to say that Nancy Pelosi’s opinion has evolved and she’s had a moment of epiphany of some sort and isn’t just using this “issue” in statuary hall as rank political opportunism, are you?

Of course, Pelosi and Schumer are disingenuous swine who are trying to capitalize on this movement to gain power.

But how fucked up is it that they can?

Why isn’t the Republican party vocally antiracist right now? Forget about Lincoln. I mean today.

Antiracism should be built in to both parties. Then the Democrats would have to run on the rest of their stupid platform instead of being able to get elected based on being the only party that’s vocal about equality. It’s past time to stop defending a man who is obviously and spectacularly unfit for office just bc you like a few of his policies and hate liberals.

Harumph! Harumph! Yes, and what about? WHAT ABOUT?

Woof, Z-man. That might be the hottest, and worst, take I’ve seen from you in years.

Maybe there could be a committee that determines eligibility to play in the NBA, limiting it to true proven savants like LeBron, Doncic, and Zion.

I’m pretty sure there are committees already in place to determine eligibility. They’re called “front offices” and they make voluntary, non-coerced decisions to hire players based on the previous play that those players have exhibited. No one forced the Suns to pick Josh Jackson in 2017, nor Dragan Bender in 2016, nor Alex Len in 2013. The players were merely eligible, and the Suns fucked their own decisions up. Removing the risk from drafting is impossible; reducing that risk via nanny-state ageist regulation is downright immoral against the labor.

What you’re referring to is known as “collusion” and would be a radical abuse of the NBA’s cartel power.

Admittedly not my best work. 🙂 but mostly on the basis of not having a prayer of ever happening.

But I don’t get the moral objections. There are lots of jobs one can’t do if one doesn’t meet a certain skill or age threshold, or doesn’t have a certain amount of credentials. The NBA is free to determine eligibility requirements, isn’t it? Should you be able to draft a 4-year old? 12? The bar is set somewhere, correct? Why not allow 16 year olds to be drafted? Would Zion Williamson or Luca Doncic have been more productive at age 16 than Kevin Knox or even Frank Kaminsky?

We’re essentially quibbling about where the bar should be set. I don’t think the past policies of requiring a minimum amount of college was deemed illegal, was it? Remember the “hardship” provision? Was that legal?

There are lots of jobs one can’t do if one doesn’t meet a certain skill or age threshold, or doesn’t have a certain amount of credentials.

We’re talking about basketball performance, not civil engineering. There is no risk to public safety by drafting a young player, just as an engineering firm would be within their rights to hire a PE who is aged 18 if that individual had passed all of the qualifying exams and had all of the relevant degrees.

Being that there are no qualifying exams for playing basketball, it should be entirely the responsibility of the drafting team to determine eligibility.

Should you be able to draft a 4-year old? 12?

Well, first off, there are age of majority laws in nearly every nation, with 18 being the threshold in every state save Alabama, Mississippi and Nebraska. And given that there is a whole lot money at stake for the individual performer, you could argue to set the bar for gainful employment alongside the threshold for legal majority. I would argue that teams and players reach a mutual agreement that the player is capable of performing the tasks of an NBA player. If a player is 15 and declares himself willing to play in the NBA, and a team voluntarily offers him a contract, I see no problem with it.

We’re essentially quibbling about where the bar should be set.

We are, but you’re advocating stripping legal adults to seek employment in the United States, in the hopes that billion-dollar organizations would be protected from their own bad decisions, producing a “better” entertainment product.

Perhaps we should disqualify any player below six feet, since those players tend to be unproductive as well.

It’s cute that you think the party that has given us 50 years of the Southern Strategy, “welfare queens,” Willie Horton, “very fine people,” and all sorts of other dog whistle bullshit is going to do a face turn right now and embrace anti-racism. It’s just ADORABLE. Maybe the Libertarians will endorse Medicare for All and my cats will start barking at me too.

Watch about ten minutes of FOX News then get back to me about when this beautiful Kumbaya moment is going to be happening.

It’s not that far off, JK.

In 2012, I wasn’t afraid of what might happen if Mitt Romney became President. I wasn’t terrified of what a Kasich Administration would mean for minorities, either.

I’ve seen great progress in the last month from Republicans I know. I’ve gotten Republicans to attend BLM marches in Montauk, FFS.

In 2012, I wasn’t afraid of what might happen if Mitt Romney became President. I wasn’t terrified of what a Kasich Administration would mean for minorities, either.

Does the Republican Party seem to be moving TOWARDS Mitt Romney/John Kasich types, or AWAY from them?

The GOP nominee in 2024 is probably gonna be Don Jr. Bookmark that one.

“Does the Republican Party seem to be moving TOWARDS Mitt Romney/John Kasich types, or AWAY from them?”

Trump split republican party is split in two by bringing Reagan blue collar democrats back but while also making many conservatives, free market republicans, neo conservatives, and others bat shit crazy with hate.

The Trumpians are anti “pure” free trade, anti excessive involvement overseas (NATO, Middle East etc..) , and anti wide open orders.

The mainstream republicans are pro free trade, pro open borders (for cheap labor), and pro American influence and leadership around the world. The neocon wing (the true Satanic influence that’s the aggressive war mongering group is passionately anti Trump)

There is a fight for the soul of the republican party.

I’m mostly with Trump on policy, but he’s too much of a sick fuck and widely hated on both sides to be a the standards bearer of better trade deals, sensible immigration reform, and withdrawing from unnecessary conflicts overseas.

Deeefense: This election should be a 45 state slaughter or worse, but somehow the democrats wound up with a candidate that’s probably less than a year away from needing assisted living. How they can be that dumb is beyond me. If they would have found anyone palatable to the moderate swing states they would have demolished him in every one of them. They may wind up winning anyway because Trump is so psycho, but IMO some of that hinges on who the Vice Presidential nominee is. EVERYONE knows that long before his term is over, if Biden hasn’t been put away in a nursing home or assisted living, it’s going to be like a “Weekend at Bernies” in the Whitehouse, The Vice President is largely the person running for president.

I think you’re right, but it’s pretty clear the Dems think it’s more important to pick a woman of color to balance out Biden’s white maleness.

I saw Biden post something a couple weeks back that said “we can’t take 4 more years of this.” If I were his campaign manager I would tell him “say nothing except this for the next 5 months.”

I don’t know where the party is going.

Hubert, I honestly don’t think you’re a bad guy — I want you to read this book if you want an answer to that question:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/24/books/review/dark-money-by-jane-mayer.html

I think it’s pretty clear where the GOP is going: empty suits willing to do whatever the Koch, Mercer, DeVos and other elite families want them to do. I don’t think you have a full picture of just how much money is out there for people who will carry water for the nation’s most right-wing billionaires. And they are extremely right-wing. Like “abolish the Department of Energy” right-wing. Like “eliminate all income taxes” right-wing.

You should try getting out more and mixing with moderate republicans that love guys like John Kasich, Mitt Romney, and other anti Trump RINOs. There are loads of them. Those are the guys fighting to get Trump out, but they haven’t learned they can’t do it with pure free trade, wide open borders, and middle east invasions.

Trump’s approval rating among self-identified Republicans is currently 85%, which is close to a two-year low.

Both parties have drifted towards extremism. The Republicans are certainly ahead but Bernie’s done one helluva job making up ground.

Uhhh Bernie did way worse in 2020 than in 2016, and the most centrist centrist who ever centristed, Joe Biden, waltzed to the nomination virtually unopposed. The Bernie left is a pretty small rump within the party, they top out at 30% or so of the party and they haven’t been able to grow that number at all in four years.

There’s Bernie, Warren, Katie Porter, and The Squad, and that’s pretty much it as far as high profile progressives go. Bernie and Warren are nearing the ends of their careers.

I know plenty of Republicans. Not one of them gives a flying shit about getting tough on trade. I’ve known some of these people for many years and in those many years “getting tough on trade” was not a thing that they mentioned, not ever.

What they’re overwhelmingly against is “big government,” AKA social programs, AKA things that benefit people of color.

“I know plenty of Republicans. Not one of them gives a flying shit about getting tough on trade. I’ve known some of these people for many years and in those many years “getting tough on trade” was not a thing that they mentioned, not ever.”

I am describing the “new” republican party (at least for now).

I grew up in a blue collar area of NY. My entire family belonged to the democrat party from the moment they came here about 100 years ago. I’d say 90% of the kids I grew up with were democrats. They mostly became auto mechanics, plumbers, electricians, construction workers, carpenters, worked in manufacturing etc… Most belonged to unions. A few of us made it to college and became accountants, computer programmers, or other white collar workers. Some of the white collar workers slowly shifted right, but the rest remained die hard democrats. Almost all those union guys are Trump republicans now, All they do is talk about lost jobs, how trade screwed them, and how cheaper labor from overseas and illegal immigrants killed all the unions and their jobs. That’s how Trump won in a lot of the battleground states. He created a “new” party that included blue collar and union workers. Few seem to get that because the mainstream and left media don;t fully understands it. All they talk about racism. But it’s obvious to me because so many of my childhood friends switched parties (all to my utter shock). That’s what happened in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania etc..

If you have the time for a 200-page book on legislative polarization and dysfunction by a pair of researchers from the liberal Brookings AND the conservative AEI, read this.

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/It%27s_Even_Worse_Than_It_Looks

Both parties have drifted towards extremism. The Republicans are certainly ahead but Bernie’s done one helluva job making up ground.

Cosign everything in JK’s response. It hurts me to say as a former Bernie volunteer and current DSA member but the ‘radical’ left is a mess at the moment. I wish we were more successful in pushing the Dem party left, but there haven’t been that many successes. The Tea Party has been much more effective at getting what they want out of their party.

There’s also been wayyy more pushback by mainstream dems against leftists compared to Republicans pushing back against their extremists. Just look at the Engel vs. Bowman primary going on in NY. You wouldn’t see Republicans circling the wagons for a shitty incumbent like Eliot Engel. Especially when the challenger is more dynamic/charismatic like with Bowman.

We’re still a long way from the Dems actually becoming socialists.

Early bird, I don’t know what polling you’re talking about. Trump is anti immigration and anti free trade and he’s vocal about it. No other candidate came close. I think some people voted him just because he wasn’t a Democrat, but a significant number of people liked these particular policies and it made a difference for him. Hillary didn’t expect this and kept campaigning against his personality instead of his positions. The only Democrat who really seemed to believe this was Yang, but he wasn’t dynamic enough to appeal to enough people.

When the congressional candidate is a Knicks fan…

“The GOP nominee in 2024 is probably gonna be Don Jr. Bookmark that one.”

The GOP nominee in 2024 is probably going to be Sen. Tom Cotton/Nikki Haley

Hubert I assume when you say. “I can’t stand for this shit, ” You mean racism. I would say 99% of people you would consider republicans are antiracism. But it depends on what you define racism as.

If you define racism as not treating people by the content of their character but rather the color of their skin than I would say 99% of people in general agree actually walk that walk.

However if you define racism as an original sin of being born white with no hope of redemption other than confessing to the sins of someone else’s ancestors… then I’m going to disagree.

So there you go, Hubert. There’s bob, trying to tell us that 99% of Republicans are not just not racist, they are in fact anti-racist. That 99% of Republicans judge people by the content of their character. That 99% of Republicans would have no problem, say, with their daughters dating or marrying a black man.

That somehow all of the Proud Boys, corrupt murderous cops, Barbecue Beckys, AR15-toting militia cosplayers, n-word dropping rednecks, Confederate flag wavers, and alt-righters somehow squeeze into that 1% of bad apples. That they’re just a teeny tiny percentage of all Rapublicans. And that in fact, it is the libs who are the racists, for making the false accusation that white privilege exists.

Hubert, you’re right. They’re ceding that ground to us entirely. Whatever, I’ll take it. History is on our side.

Okay forget that part.

What about the rest of that group of people? 1% of all Republicans?

99% of all Republicans would be okay with their daughter marrying a black guy?

You can’t fool me, dude. My first wife was from Crossville, Tennessee. I’ve been there. I’ve met those people. Just about every single person I came across there used the n word very liberally. There are thousands and thousands of Crossvilles.

My ex-wife’s toothless drunken absent father had a dog named “N*gger.” He was no outlier in that town, trust me.

bobneptune:
“That somehow all of the Proud Boys, corrupt murderous cops, Barbecue Beckys, AR15-toting militia cosplayers, n-word dropping rednecks, Confederate flag wavers, and alt-righters somehow squeeze into that 1% of bad apples. ”

Murderous corrupt cops, etc, etc…. you really think there are more than 3.4 million in this country. Not everyone that owns a gun is a troglodyte.

Just curious how many “murderous cops” (whatever the fuck that means) do you think exist in America?

“You can’t fool me, dude. My first wife was from Crossville, Tennessee.”

Just curious when you were in Tennessee 1975? I’m guessing not 2017, right… the country and specifically the south is a vastly different place today than it was 40-50 years ago. FFS 3 friends and myself were asked to leave a diner outside of Savannah, Ga in 1971 for the offense of having hair down to out shoulders.

First of all 99% of blacks aren’t good with black men marrying white women for example, but getting back to your point from PEW:

In 1967, when miscegenation laws were overturned in the United States, 3% of all newlyweds were married to someone of a different race or ethnicity. Since then, intermarriage rates have steadily climbed. By 1980, the share of intermarried newlyweds had about doubled to 7%. And by 2015 the number had risen to 17%.4

If you consider 72% of the population is white the maximum % of mixed marriages would be 28% randomly.

FYI everyone south of the Mason/Dixon like isn’t out of casting from Deliverance and not everyone in NYC is as pure as the driven snow.

And by the way, please explain to me how this fellow isn’t a racist by definition walking around 16th street:

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/disturbing-video-shows-random-attack-hydrant-head-smash-of-92-year-old-woman-in-manhattan/2466659/

I did start all this. My apologies.

I finally figured it out.

The US is the most racist country in the US and virtually every republican is a racist.

How else can you explain that the US elected Obama with only 53% and 51% of the vote?

I know he got a very similar amount of the white vote as previous white democrats that ran for president (and either won or lost), but that other 47% and 49% couldn’t possible just disagree with him on policy as they did with other democrat candidates. They are all racists or he would have gotten 100%. In fact, I suspect the only reason Kamala Harris isn’t the nominee is all the closet white racists in the democrat party.

I’m not sure what this group is more delusional about, the Knicks/basketball or politics.

It’s a bummer the Knicks won’t play in the resurrection league. They would have 100% made their draft position worse but this blog could use some live games. And I usually loves the political talk around here.

“What the fuck are you talking about? Any basis for this, or are you just being racist?”

HaHaHaHa…. you really have been brainwashed by your statist uni professors. All white people are stained with the original sin of slavery and are bigots and can’t do anything about it and no minorities can hold racial prejudices. You actually believe that tripe. Pro tip for you humpty… all people are basically alike and some have pretty serious character flaws but thankfully there are less and less of them as time goes by.

You ask for evidence where some people black people are vehemently against interracial marriage?

Google is your friend. Google a word salad of terms like “question why black men marry blondes” and you will get some fairly racists POV’s from black people. For example the very first link that came up was this witheringly racist piece, not from the Proud Boys, but from the blackradionetwork.com …. Larry Page and Sergy Brin listed this link first….. not me:

https://www.blackradionetwork.com/why_black_men_marry_white_women_explored

If you don’t consider this a racist piece of psychobabble with a large dab of self hating then I don’t know what to tell you.

You guys are sitting here trying to act like the Democratic party isn’t extreme when people literally could not go outside in NY bc of angry mobs on the street entirely made up of far left protesters and the remnants of occupy wall street.

You’re going to sit here and say the party that has been in the streets all month screaming to defund the police so we can send unarmed social workers to deescalate a domestic abuse case in progress is not extreme bc Bernie didn’t poll as well as he did in 2016?

I’m not buying it. These people – not any of you – are fucking insane, and they’re carrying your party’s flag.

“You guys are sitting here trying to act like the Democratic party isn’t extreme when people literally could not go outside in NY bc of angry mobs on the street entirely made up of far left protesters and the remnants of occupy wall street.

You’re going to sit here and say the party that has been in the streets all month screaming to defund the police so we can send unarmed social workers to deescalate a domestic abuse case in progress is not extreme bc Bernie didn’t poll as well as he did in 2016?”

I wish you the best trying to get a bunch of etatists (and I’m being kind when I say that) to act like Daniel Patrick Moynihan or Jacob Javitz. My condolences in advance….

I’m not buying it. These people – not any of you – are fucking insane, and they’re carrying your party’s flag.

Lmao bob you are truly a clown of the highest order. You said “99% of blacks” hold a certain opinion, which is basically making a categorical claim about all black people, and when asked to support that insane statement you provided the opinion of one person from some obscure website that looks like it hasn’t been touched since 2001.

It’s sad, because I think you’re a decently intelligent guy, but it’s clear Fox News et al. have just broken your brain completely. I mean “statist uni professors?” What conspiracy-laden utter garbage.

I hope for your own sake you take a step back from the conservative media cesspool someday. It materially damages people.

I disagree with Bob on a lot of things (and he still owes me an apology for a post he made), but I agree the article about what fourth graders are being taught is disturbing. Teaching young kids that everyone is racist doesn’t serve anything and teaching them that the country was founded on racism ignore a lot of other reasons the country was founded.

Anyways, in semi-Knicks related news, Enes Kanter’s father was released by the Turkish Govt:
https://twitter.com/EnesKanter/status/1273976495850094594?s=20

Anyways, in semi-Knicks related news, Enes Kanter’s father was released by the Turkish Govt:

I read in the times Erdogan was now interested in becoming closer to Washington…. he released some clergyman a week ago and this might be related. These sorts of things are often used as good faith gestures. Never look a gift horse in the mouth.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/world/europe/erdogan-trump-turkey-libya-syria.html

Wow, Crossville, TN in the thread!? Hey, my mother moved us to Crossville, TN in 1977! Major culture shock, coming from North Adams, Mass. At the time, Cumberland County was a dry county and there were, supposedly, no blacks at all. I never saw a black or hispanic person there my entire time. I graduated from Cumberland County High School in Crossville.

I started at UT in Knoxville in 1980, coming back to Crossville for holidays and summers. My last time there was in 1984…I swore I’d never go back and haven’t.

Maybe it’s changed. I don’t know. I do live in Knoxville, TN still.

I just looked up ‘this lady’ (Libby Emmons). Turns out she’s an insane bigot who’s obsessed with trans people. She’s written no less than 20 anti-trans articles in the past 2 years, mainly for the Federalist. ”

In good faith I thought maybe Dink knew something I didn’t so I google searched Libby Emmons anti trans articles and I got this first:

https://nypost.com/2020/05/12/judge-sides-with-trans-athletes-against-girls-who-just-want-fairness/

In the piece Ms Emmons makes the argument a judge overstepped his bounds mandating lawyers for the plaintiffs couldn’t use the term biological males when describing two people born with Y chromosomes who were athletes who feel they are girls and want to compete athletically against people woth only X chromosomes.

The article says virtually nothing about transgender people but it does rip the judge. she goes on to acknowledge:

Gender dysphoria — the mismatch between a person’s subjective sense of gender and his biological sex — is real. In some cases, it’s very painful. Even so, a subjective state of mind doesn’t override natural reality.

I guess the question actually is if Usain Bolt woke up today and said, “Ya know…. I’ve been really queazy about my maleness and today I had an epiphany and realize I’m really a woman on the inside regardless of what my karyotype says,” should he be able to compete against the girls in Tokyo next year?

Many people would reasonably say no. I’m failing to see the insane bigotry here

“There’s lots of polling indicating that the public solidly approves of the protests that came after the death of George Floyd.”

Jesus Christ I approve of peaceful public protests. I don’t approve of looting, violence stealing causing general havoc, etc. I guess that makes me crazy.

Read her Federalist garbage. She believes that people are transitioning because they want to cure their gayness and that they feel forced to do this because conversion therapy has been outlawed in a bunch of states. She also believes that some parents are pushing their possibly queer children to transition because they believe it’s more socially acceptable than being gay. The only thing she cites are nameless ‘LGB’ activists who are critical of trans people. Just a bunch of vile, incorrect horseshit.

Not gonna link to the Federalist but you can probably find it in your bookmarks.

But after an initial spasm of violence the protests have been overwhelmingly peaceful.

Yeah…. that initial spasm lasted 6 days:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8377277/Americans-survey-damage-sixth-night-riots.html

I got it…. just boys being boys, eh…..

Do you lose your membership badge if you say the violence and looting were fucking awful and completely unnecessary and mostly carried out by people that couldn’t give 2 shits on a rainy day about Mr Floyd.

I mean Mr Floyd was heinously killed . Virtually everybody agreed. The Minnesota AG was one of the most liberal black men in America. Minneapolis and Minnesota was under complete democrat control. No chance anything was getting brushed under the carpet.

They arrested everybody consistent with everyone civil right once the facts became clear. Trump told the Justice Dept and FBI to look into civil rights violations federally. What the fuck else were the authorities supposed to do?

The cops are out of control in Minneapolis, NYC, Chicago, Philly, Boston and LA? OK… who runs those towns and who has run the the majority of the past 50 years? Hold them accountable.

I’m all for it.

Not a single bit of that justifies burning another man’s shit or stealing his property. Doesn’t justify throwing a firebomb in a random cop’s car.

JK47: There’s lots of polling indicating that the public solidly approves of the protests that came after the death of George Floyd. There’s also lots of polling indicating that the public hates the way Donald Trump has handled the aftermath of Floyd’s murder.

We’re winning this debate pretty handily.

I agree with the protests and I hate the way Trump has handled the aftermath.

It’s such a long journey from righteous protest to sensible policy action, though.

“You know what the campaign said. I wasn’t a very good dog whistle because it flew right over this canines head/ears”

Huh?

Literally 95% of the prisoners at Auschwitz wore a red triangle. And they ran it in a Trump ad.

As for what percentage of Trump’s base is racist, there is zero chance Brad Parscale thinks it’s 1%.

Who do you degenerates have for Belmont tomorrow?

JK47: But after an initial spasm of violence the protests have been overwhelmingly peaceful.

I agree, but that initial spasm was traumatic to the people who were cowering in their apartments in fear while people downstairs were throwing bricks through their windows.

It was also disrespectful and insulting to the millions of people who lost their livelihoods staying at home to stop the spread of covid.

You can talk about polling all you want, but I still fear a Trump reelection as a backlash to all this activity.

I also think you should examine why there’s an entire socioeconomic class in this country who will take advantage of a public crisis to commit acts of aggression and destroy property for no material gain whatsoever.

Quoth Henry Rollins, white man, 1981:

It feels good to say what I want
It feels good to knock things down
It feels good to see the disgust in their eyes
It feels good, I’m gonna go wild
Spray paint the walls
Don’t want to see the plan succeed
Won’t be room for people like me
My life is their disease
It feels good and I’m gonna go wild
Spray paint the walls
Feels so good to say what I want
Feels so good to knock things down
It feels good to see the disgust in their eyes
It feels good and I’m gonna go wild
Spray paint the walls
It feels good and I’m gonna go wild

Again this has been scientifically verified, at this point you’re really just arguing that science is wrong and we should not teach science in schools.

You are absolutely correct and could reuse this exact line in summarizing just about any argument with bob and people like him.

I thought the Camden story was excellent (it’s been around for a few days electronically). It’s a great example of how to deal with the multiple obstructions to reform that make it so hard to have even incremental improvements. Putting the link here, although the WashPost has a firewall for those who don’t have a subscription. For those who can’t get to it, short story is basically tear the thing down and remake it. Which happened in Camden due to a series of fortuitous events that might be hard to replicate, but are worth considering. Because it has resulted in what a lot of people are looking for, and clearly seems to be working.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/camden-police-chief-old-new-department/2020/06/18/37407536-b0b8-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html

We have Kevin Knox, who needs Giannis?

I’m so sure they thought they had a mini-Giannis in Knox. Tall gangly kid, big hands and feet.
I looked at Giannis’s stats just now, I can’t imagine Knox even getting to 2nd-year Giannis (who still kind of sucked, but at least was on a fast path upward).
And that video Jowles shared made me wince once again at Fizdale’s ‘eat what you kill.’ I know it’s often said here that coaching doesn’t matter, but you look at how Bud has put his team in positions to succeed — hell just schemes, much less effective ones that are constantly tweaked to be even better — and I think I differ.

I truly believe that the hardest task is not to bring Giannis to the Knicks or any other team but to make him leave the Bucks.
Loyalty is a bitch.

bobneptune:
Just wondering how Y’all fee about falling in line behind a group founded by a “trained Marxist” (her own words).

https://twitter.com/i/status/1273739801464725504

Entire interview in context:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp-RswgpjD8

In before Jowles categorically squeals her views have evolved over the years and now she’s a black Ben Franklin…..

I don’t know what you mean by “falling in line behind” BLM.

That “journalist” is one of the key op-ed writers for the Herald Sun, which is basically Rupert Murdoch’s pet hate rag. Try again, boomer.

Marxism!?! We talking about Marxism!?!

“Bob, it’s telling that you think the term Marxist is some form of bogeyman.”

You are right… I’m fucked up for thinking Marxism is a boogeyman term. It has been so successful and increased the individual freedoms of billions everywhere it has been tried,

Sorry for the error…..

Projection is a big part of what Bob does around here.

The Honorable Cock Jowles: Try again, boomer.

Must we get all ageist, sonny?

There’s about a billion ways that the term Boomer fits me like a glove, so it’s all good. Now, back to my Friars Club Roasts infomercial…

“Of course bob doesn’t support Black Lives Matter”

Bob supports equality of opportunity for all. That’s one of the reasons I support charter schools. Bob doesn’t generally support organizations founded by avowed Marxists. I’m kinda funny that way….

I prefer guacamole to avocado toast.

Ok Boomer is ageism.

When  you’re a knicks fan you know that something’s wrong with your life and you start believing in occult religions.

yep, that pretty much sums things up there…if you can talk yourself in to caring about the knicks, well, there really is no end to the bullshit you just might be able to feed yourself…

I never thought he was a lock (for reasons I expressed above)

When did Eskimo become a derogatory term?

My Ancestry test said I am 2% Eskimo. All of a sudden I’m so insulted.

Clearly, Covid-19 is the 2nd most serious health problem in the United States behind mental illness.

I smell reub

When you’re masturbating Privacy is ideal.

and yet here you are

“Bob supports equality of opportunity for all, unless it’s black people getting killed by cops or any other systemic racism. Otherwise he would support the movement Black Lives Matter, as distinguished from the organization Black Lives Matter.”

EB, you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. Don’t state things with metaphysical certitude which you have no idea of. I’ve never been bashful to express my opinions publicly, don’t characterize them falsely. I’ll be happy to tell you what I think.

Bob supports equality of opportunity for all including black people. I don’t apologize for the fact my dad was the son of an illiterate broken English speaking immigrant who went through the NYC schools and ended up at Cornell. My mom was the daughter of an illiterate Bariese ice man who graduated from Julliard.

For 50 years we have spent 22 trillion dollars on social programs with very little effect. The minority kid that is born with no father in the household is at a gigantic disadvantage AS IS THE WHITE KID BORN UNDER SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES. That is the major factor in economic success, not that police killed 11 unarmed black people in 2019 (completely tragic.)

If you want equal opportunity allow black kids a choice in the schools they attend.

However, this bigotry when it comes to policing is not ubiquitous nation wide as this chart shows:

https://www.statista.com/chart/21872/map-of-police-violence-against-black-americans/

Interesting the largest disparities in blacks being killed by police take place in Washington, DC, NY, NJ , RI and IL. generally run by democrats. If there is a HUGE problem their, they can fix it IF THEY WANT TO. Maybe some politicians like having it as a wedge issue?

In the racist republican states like Idaho, Utah, N&S Dakota, WY and MT it seems when it comes to killing minorities are pretty even handed with whites per capita.

I support everyone being treated equally.

ptmilo with another killshot.

BTW I realized I have a spreadsheet of suggested gym gear with prices, descriptions and upsell alternatives I made for my sister-in-law a few months back. If you want it, I’ll export and host it somewhere apart from my personal Google account.

it’s almost rally time…I’m so excited…good thing they set up that overflow site outside the building…I imagine they’ll be a full 19k inside and another 30 to 40k gathered outside…

I heard somewhere earlier this week that demand to attend this event was really great, amazing and beautiful…so much winning…

“I know a guy who writes a lot of rants of Marxism, ”

Could you enlighten me about the glories of Marxism vs Capitalism please?

Give me ‘Privacy’, or give me Politics!

“***Could you enlighten me about the glories of Marxism vs Capitalism please?***

What, you want me to read Das Kapital to you? I don’t really have the time or interest in that, but since you want to understand it, try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE6qa3bhnOo”

You know I wasn’t asking for that. I asked for examples of how Marxism has been gloriously applied in the real world.

Maybe the head coach interview list is just a marketing trick after the Floyd msg fiasco to show that Knicks are no racists of any kind.
The list of coaches has white, black, men, woman,
young, old, fat, thin, bearded, shaved, experienced, rookies….
If they add in the list an openly declared LGBT candidate a Marxist, an Atheist and a European it’s gonna be Thibs in the end….

The Dolan Knicks have had a very diverse array of incompetents in management positions

“Slid by to see if there was any news about the increase of cases in FL imperiling the appendix season

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article243600032.html

The above link is a pretty good tale about not being stupid. Don’t go out to crowded bars. Wear masks. Socially distance. People forget the whole lock down idea was to not overwhelm the healthcare system, not that everything would be hunky dory at its conclusion.

today’s FL data:

4049 new cases

704 in Miami-Dade

295 in Orange County/Orlando

It’s crazy how the Knicks are lining up interviews with pretty much every candidate that we would have put together if this blog collectively had a list of candidates we’d like for the Knicks to hire.

So that’s good.

But they’re also interviewing Thibs and Woody.

So it’s this weird balancing act that could go either way. Hopefully they pick Atkinson or one of the hot shit new coaching prospects like Udoka or Hammon.

So you have to give Rose credit, then, as he is interviewing some top of the line coaching prospects.

And hell, while I think hiring Thibs would be a total self-own, at least he’s probably at least a competent coach.

Three retreads, not two: Atkinson, Thibs and Woodson.

People forget the whole lock down idea was to not overwhelm the healthcare system, not that everything would be hunky dory at its conclusion.

It was also to give the federal government time to put together a mass testing regime and contact tracing apparatus, but we skipped that part because for all intents and purposes we do not have a federal government.

Hahahahaha grocer

“I hate to break it to you all, but chaz is going to result in a multi-year famine that primarily affects NBA players, AND IT HAS ALREADY STARTED.”

I guess living in CHAZ/CHOP utopia has some shortcomings:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/one-dead-one-critical-in-early-morning-shooting-at-capitol-hill-protest-zone/

Sunday afternoon in the midst of a lock down would be a great time to debate the merits of guns vs nail studded clubs vs knifes.

***the US has tested 27,981,272 people as of yesterday 8,000,000 more than any other country (russia) and 20,000,000 more that the second highest.***

The US ranks #26 in tests per capita, currently nipping at Belarus’ tail.

Why are you citing per game stats? You act like we are a bunch of HuffPost reading Marxist lobots, but you actually DO know a lot about us. If anything, you know we know the difference between counting stats and rate stats.

To refresh: if you play the most minutes, and take the most shots, you’ll probably score the most points. That doesn’t make you the best player.

The US is currently the Iverson of testing. Yay them.

Big ups to the teens and K-pop fans: the kids are alright.

JK47:
Trump’s a failure, a national joke, and he’s tanking so bad I wonder if Brad Parscale is actually Sam Hinkie in disguise. 6200 people showed up at his rally and his campaign tried to blame it on Antifa. So much winning!

Oh yeah, but what about (fill in the blanks: Cuomo/Clinton/FDR/Karl Marx/Pericles…)?

Bob, do you know who appoints the head of the CDC by nominating them and who can, at his discretion, remove the head of the CDC for not complying with his directives? The president, Donald Trump.

If Donald Trump could nominate competent heads of agencies, then maybe we’d have testing by now.

Imagine *this* President being the one you stoop for. That’s the crazy thing, to me. This is the guy for whom you line up John Kelly, Rex Tillerson, Jim Mattis and the rest of the Twitter-fired departed declaring virtually the same things about this man (illiterate, easily distracted, rules by emotion, dismissive of evidence, lazy) and say, “Meh, bunch of disgruntled ex-employees.”

This guy, the “maybe we could inject a cleaner into the body, maybe we could look at that” guy. The guy who didn’t know people died from the flu. The guy who didn’t know India and China shared a border. The guy who didn’t know that HIV and HPV were different things.

This guy. This is the guy.

Really curious to see how would KP play after a long, long rest. If he’s good for one month in top shape Dallas can be dangerous in West and go to the finals and win!

(Doing my best to change the subject, even at the price of idiocy. This thread has been awful.)

Hi all. Been reading for a long time. The political discussion is both interesting and infuriating. So here goes:
If we don’t have to have a “winner,” don’t have to have one side or tribe be absolutely right, then life gets so much simpler and more complex. Yes, America is Regan’s shining city on a hill. America moved the world forward in respect to Enlightenment ideals of human rights and liberty. I bet we can all agree that the world is a better place due to American influence.
And yes, America has a tortured history of oppression and repression that is still playing out today in both actual bigots/racists walking our streets as well as in the systemic treatment of people of color. And of course, that is not the only mistake we have made as a nation. There are many more!
There is no doubt that both these things can be true and discussion would be so much more productive if we could just agree on that.
Most of our progress of implementing these ideals for all has been opposed by reactionary forces defending a status quo that enshrined their privilege. To overcome that opposition, violence has occurred again and again – usually started by those defending their privilege. Right now we are in one of those moments when the oppressd are not just taking it. Talk about the looters all you want, but how many videos of people being shot in the back do we need to watch? What about the attack against peaceful citizens expressing their constitutional rights – an attack that was unprovoked, that was authorized at the highest levels of the federal government and was for the purpose of a photo op?
This isn’t inherently right vs left, Dem vs Rep. It is about american idealism vs status quo and oppression.

personally I think it’s a major triumph for humanity that we’re not usually hunting and eating each other…

how’s things over on your side of the world knew your knicks?

beautiful day here in So Cal…playing a little fortnite and the world is right for the moment 🙂

Greece is Ok
Me listening to psych, prog, garage rock and other summer goodies

I’m surprised we aren’t seeing more articles in basketball circles about the growth rate of Covid-19 cases in Florida. I’m seeing some for political purposes, but few about the impact on basketball. I know there is some debate about whether the increase is entirely the result of increased infections or a combination of infections and much better targeted testing and tracing. But even if it’s a little of both, by the time the NBA season is ready to start, Florida could be in a similar position to the northeast at its peak. I think that would almost guarantee the season gets cancelled, If I were Adam Silver, I’d already be either looking for a backup location or making plans for a cancellation because the probability of a cancellation is growing with each acceleration of new cases.

yes milo, every time I place second (just happened about 5 minutes ago, I had to shut the machine off for fear of destroying the controller and ps4) I think of your post about all your solo wins…and, I feel both hope and envy…I mean it shouldn’t be that hard, right…

everytime my godson casually mentions another solo win though I slip a little lower in life…he’s only nine…that’s just not fair…

I’m actually pretty okay with sucking at stuff…as long as I continue to win at the whole staying alive and breathing thing – I figure I’m doing good…

I just don’t understand why I can’t get lucky…much much better to be lucky than good, right…no, not really right…

the last game I matched up against someone worse than myself, but, somehow managed to get myself stuck in build mode when I should have been shooting…epic fail…

think I’ll just watch tv for a while…fairly confident I won’t fuck that up…

My wife has Big CMaR Energy in our house. I consider myself the overconfident GC against whom she makes her demands, i.e. I’ll be damned if I’m subcontracting someone to re-seal our sinks, even if it takes me a whole weekend. Gotta keep some margin in it. The good thing is that her metaphoric checks always clear.

“There’s more to it than that. Smart GM’s interview widely as a form of self scouting. You ask the candidate questions about your own personnel and how he would change/deploy them and you get the opinion of various staffs around the league. That is valuable information”

They are all going to say, “I wouldn’t have drafted him, but since you have him I’d trade him while he still has some value.” 🙂

We may need a new thread….

No fireworks geo? It’s all I’m hearing every night in Newark. Friends in Brooklyn also dealing with it.

fireworks, fireworks dink?

actually at night there were some fireworks going off around town…pretty normal this time of year…i like watching fireworks…landscaping equipment just happens to be probably my least favorite noise in the world…dogs, kids, birds never really bother me…gas motors though, yuch…

not sure how i would react to living in a more urban environment…i remember growing up and at one point living close to a train track and a fire alarm siren, we were really close to macarthur airport too…that was pretty noisy at times…

my company hosts this thing at the san diego convention center…i go down to help out…each year a buddy of mine share a room at the marriott overlooking the marina…one of the few rooms down there with balconies facing the water…there are concerts by the water on friday and saturday night..after the show there’s a barge out in the water that starts shooting off fireworks, it’s cool…if you get a room on the north west corner you can see the fireworks up by the midway which will usually happen at least once during the week…

nice place to sit, smoke, drink and watch the show…

“confessing feels good…i also set the knights of columbus building on fire that was in town…in all fairness at the time, it was in a pretty bad state of disrepair…it did have a bowling alley in it which was cool…however, in the equipment room next to it there was a pretty good sized hole in the floor leading to the basement…i remember looking down and seeing all these jagged boards sticking up…the image stuck with me because a friend fell in, but thankfully caught himself on the edge…”

So you think being an arsonist is cool???? looking for positive affirmation??? Probably came to the right place…..

A new thread. http://knickerblogger.net/knicks-realize-they-are-interviewing-too-many-good-head-coaching-candidates-add-jason-kidd-and-mike-brown-to-the-mix/