Knicks Morning News (2018.06.28)

Sittin here thinkin about the Kawhi sitchew led me to thinking about our KP sitchew- as in would I trade him for Kawhi, and how KP fits in as our top option. To be honest, as much as I love Kawhi, I’m not sure I’d rather have him over KP because KP is such a matchup nightmare. It’s 50-50 for me.

In today’s game, does KP fit as a PF? Can he be what we need him to be playing there full time? Hell no. We need him to be our best scorer, defender, and rebounder. He can’t do that in today’s league from the PF spot. He’s just not built that way. I don’t want to compare him to AD, but I think what he did at C last season is a decent reference point for KP. This isn’t the era Ewing played in, so KP won’t be physically tested as much. Combine that with the fact that at C, he won’t be chasing small ball 4’s around alot or even guarding players smaller and more mobile than him consistently. I believe there are no full time Centers that can matchup with KP. KAT maybe, but I don’t think he’s good enough defensively to do it. Of course he’ll give KP fits on offense- that goes without a doubt. Chasing guys and guarding the perimeter is not maximizing what KP can do. Sure, he’s not very physical, but where are you gonna find mobile 5’s who rebound and defend and shoot well enough to not clog the offense? Getting them at the price you want is damn near a lost cause. So KP needs to be the 5 or he needs to be traded. We cannot build around him as a PF.

Also this story of Becky Hammon becoming the top assistant for the Spurs is really interesting considering Pop is probably going to retire relatively soon. Seems the perfect (and most likely) organization to have the 1st female head coach.

I’ve shifted my position somewhat in regards to talent. The nba is such a top talent driven league that your only hope is getting a superstar. By superstar I mean a statistically-proven superstar. Does Cleveland without LeBron, or GSW without Durant+Curry, the Rockets without Harden+CP3 make it that far without their superstars? No. Yes you need the great value contracts that overproduce, but if you have five starters that are value contracts, you end up with Toronto.

Maybe this isn’t a world-beating revelation to anyone else, actually. But to me it means a teams job is to keep swinging for the fences with drafts, trades, pickups. You need a top ten player or two to make it anywhere. Luck, smarts, opportunity cost. So maybe it would make sense as a GM to give up almost anyone for a top pick, to send away anyone with a low ceiling for Lonzo who may end up more than he was, to give up the farm for certain players not named Melo. Maybe that Melo trade was a good one if it was for anyone but Melo in his “tier.” I mean, imagine it was for Paul George, and then we signed someone like DeAndre Jordan not Amare. Right?

Lonzo is the next Jason Kidd. Him, Frank and KP would be a hell of a core to build around.

That’s sort of what we did.

That’s the problem right there. They only sort of tanked, when they should have outright tanked. Right back at the time of Mega Max Melo. Had they done so then, the team would be in so much better shape now.

The damage done then was significant enough that even if Perry is competent, it’s going to take a whole lot of luck for this to work out any time soon.

If Kanter opts out we’ll get our first real glimpse of what Perry is all about. Will he use the cap space to sign a 3rd tier “star”? Will he use it to acquire picks?

Generally speaking, I agree with Frank’s point above. We should be preserving cap space and thinking long term. But if there were an opportunity now to get someone who could be a bargain down the road and he fit into our timeline, that’s something we ought to consider.

Along those lines… what do you think about Noel? The kid is still 24 years old and even playing garbage minutes last year he still put up 12.8 rebounds, 2.4 steals, and 1.7 blocks per 36 minutes. If we’re taking swings on young guys, he’s arguably as good or better a bet as our last two lottery picks. And he’s got a much higher probability (i.e. greater than zero) of coming good than Mudiay .

Let’s say we offered him two years at the full mid-level ($8mm/year) with a team option for year 3. Would that be too risky? Not enough?

#6 nice summary of Enes. The guy really is terrific as a person. He’s someone you root for, especially in this political climate. He speaks truth to power. He’s an outspoken exile from Erdogan’s Turkey. It’s a shame he can’t guard anyone. Offensively he’s very good. Imagine him on GSW in Zaza’s role. Walk away and don’t look back, Enes…don’t look back.

Meanwhile, we have worse problems. He’s a giant expiring deal. That’s not a problem. That’s the opposite of a problem, as long as we don’t flip him for an actual problem.

I think the Knicks are more or less on track right now. Even if they keep the vets and play them there’s every chance that it won’t equate to the always feared “meaningless win”. Without KP the Knicks really can’t beat anyone. I don’t think there’s any team against whom we’d be favored with a starting 5 of Burke, TH2, Lee, Kanter, O’Quinn. I know those last two are 5’s…Who’s our 4 when we go to a ‘veteran lineup”? Then again, two of them are 2’s as well…So, yeah, they may seem “good” but almost every other team can beat that.

So, yeah, prudent at this juncture to just sit out FA and let the tankathon begin. Let KP come back 100% even if it takes all season. Plan on KP + high 2019 pick + whatever we presently have becoming the core of a decent team. As contracts sunset, spend wisely on FA’s. No home run moves until 2020. I can wait. I’ve been waiting and two whole fucking seasons seems reasonable considering I’ve been waiting since Chris Childs was traded away for Mark Jackson’s second tenure.

Meanwhile, I always feel this way at the end of June. Then the team makes some kind of “splash” which sets us back yet again.

@13

I would totally offer Noel that contract. He’s still 24 and was showing some level of real improvement and production before all the shitstorm started, and a 2 year contract would expire together with Lance, Lee and Noah to keep cap space for the 2020-21 season. I have no idea if he would accept it or what his perceived value is though, but I would be on board with this gamble if he’s healthy and mentally willing to do it.

For me, there is a couple of players I’d target this year.
I’d sign one of:
Randle – up to 3 years $40m
Hezonja – up to 3 years 15m
Noel – up to 3 years – 30m

They are all young and after signing them we could still open up a max contract next year if we move Lee and stretch Noah so it doesn’t shut the door on a splashy move next summer.

Oh yeah, that has always been a major advantage that the Knicks have had (the ability to get good players to sign here to play for a good Knicks team), an advantage that they’ve squandered for…hmmm…22 years or so? Allan Houston coming to the New York was the last time I think they got a notable player to come to the Knicks based on the whole “Come to New York to play on a good Knick team” approach.

And Allan Houston wasn’t even that good. Ugh.

I really really hope Perry has the foresight to hold off on the big FA splash(es) until 2020. The books will be much cleaner then without needing to stretch anyone, we’ll have a better picks, and we will also have the ability to take on bad salary to get another couple assets. I guess if Kyrie is healthy and wants to come here that that would be worth doing, but I’d hate to see a repeat of 2010 when we struck out with LBJ and the rest, ending up with Amare and Felton.

re KP’s extension – I would be very happy if we signed him to a Giannis / Gobert-type contract – ie. 4 years $100MM but I guess that’s not likely. Even if we just started him at $25MM rather than $27MM that would be significant savings across the life of the extension.

I like the Knicks’ current plan to not compromise 2019 cap space, and I’d probably do whatever it took to get rid of Joakim Noah, Tim Hardaway Jr, and Courtney Lee without taking back salary.

I wonder if Cleveland would trade us George Hill for TH2. He’s young and half decent and Cleveland has Sexton to man the point guard position. We need that Hill contract so we can decline his team option.

@19

I like Randle a lot but I think he’ll make a lot more money than this, it just takes one big offer.

The Nets are interested in Hezonja it seems, their plan is just to collect every 2015 high draft pick and see what happens? We should offer them Mudiay so they get closer to completing the collection (and then KP for 3 first rounders).

Jokes aside, depending on the price Hezonja is a good gamble, he improved a lot last season and he played for the franchise that probably has the worst young player development in the entire league, so there might be something there.

I would have to consider a Lonzo for top 3 protected 2019 pick trade. We could also sign/trade an opted in Kanter so SA could have his expiring. Maybe LA could take Lance too for our trouble?

There’d be 0 protections on any pick going to LA in exchange for Lonzo. Dude put up a terrific rookie season on both ends and is looking like the reincarnation of Jason Kidd. Unless we were literally the only team who could make Kawhi to LA a reality, which we aren’t.

Had we missed though, then we would have stunk again. But we didn’t have our own pick for 2016 anyway. So tanking would not have helped. At best we could have gotten some assets and a weaker pick for Melo, which again starts making you better and taking you out of the superstar part of the lottery.

If they had traded Chandler, Shumpert and Melo for picks when they should have, they still would have been bad in 2014-15, leading to them being right where they ended up being anyways (only on purpose rather than deciding to tank after losing 35 of their first 40 games. That was a bold move there. “I think we’re going to tank, now that we’re 5-35”), then they wouldn’t have made dumb free agent signings and used their cap space to get more picks, so they would still have been bad in 2015-16 and 2016-17 to where they would have ended up with a high pick in 2017 and then, this past season, they would have had a young team already with a bunch of age appropriate players and been roughly five steps ahead of where this current team is last year, with tons and tons of cap space. They could have added a star last year. Hell, they might have had the assets to get Kyrie Irving!

The key to tanking is simply to get rid of all veterans (you can keep one or two cheap ones for “leadership” if really want, but that’s probably not necessary). The Knicks didn’t do that. The Thunder had Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook and still drafted #3, because a team of young players, even future Hall of Famers, are still going to be bad for a couple of years. Without their 2016 pick, the Knicks could have easily been really bad in 2015-16 and 2016-17. Just like they were anyways, only with a point.

Lonzo is a better prospect than anyone in next year’s draft imo. You do the trade.

sigh…

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23935333/enes-kanter-leaning-staying-new-york-knicks-player-option

The knicks shouldn’t be tanking, that’s not the purpose of the game. The purpose is to win.

@36 This
Between not tanking and Lady Luck not falling the Knicks way since oh about 1985, I agree it’s highly unlikely they’ll pick in the top 5 next year. So maybe they should consider that trade for Lonzo even though trading first round picks is a big part of why they’ve sucked for 2o years or so.

Maybe they can stipulate that Lonzo comes with a restraining order preventing his father from coming east of the Mississippi.

If they want Timmy, next year’s pick, and any vet I’m all for the trade. No Frank or KP, Knox instead of the pick would be awesome, and if we can give them a 2020 pick instead, better. Lonzo is a sophomore who didn’t suck last year with great potential- take him.

There’s this page on YouTube, xBGFx Films, that recently started posting Frank Ntilikina footage from the season against other rookie/all star guards. If you have some time to appreciate high IQ basketball (and really notice just how bad the rest of the team was in terms of IQ and defense), I suggest you give it a look. Here’s one link of Frank vs Rozier/Irving:

https://youtu.be/2itbGdzaadc

We have to let Fizdale cook before we know what this team is.

Nevermind that he’s simmering a shit stew. Let the man cook!

@46: Yeah, Kanter opting in is arguably better for this season than if he’d opted out, for all the reasons you enumerated. Plus, this: in a season when we likely (and hopefully) going to be awful, he’s both a fun player to watch on the court and a likable guy to have on the team.

Let’s hurry up and trade Lee with Kanter to Dallas so we can get the losing started.

There’d be 0 protections on any pick going to LA in exchange for Lonzo.

Why not?? I like Lonzo, but I wouldn’t give up an unprotected #1 for him.

The whole reason LA is considering this move is that San Antonio doesn’t want Lonzo, so it’s not like he’s a slam dunk. There are real concerns about him. He still can’t shoot straight. His father is a problem that can’t be ignored. There’s no reason you can’t get some protection on that pick. I would make it top 6 protected in 2019, top 3 in 2020, unprotected in 2021.

1. He’s immediately an expiring contract and not an unuseful one either. A playoff team could be looking for a bench big that can get buckets and rebounds. And who knows, maybe Fiz coaches him up a bit on D and ups his value before the deadline. And he’s gone next year for sure.

I’d rather he opted out so that we could a) use the cap space to absorb a contract and a pick/young promising player and b) find an undrafted FA or G-League call-up that would eat up minutes and either represent great value or more losses.

2. We actually are thin up front. KQ may not be back. Noah I believe will be limited even if he does make a comeback which is slim. Robinson will not be ready to start. KP ain’t back till December at the earliest and he will be limited at first too. Hopefully KP is out longer than that. No need to rush him back.

I’d rather give all of KP’s minutes to guys like Robinson and Hicks, plus whatever we can find on the waiver wire/G-League. There’s no positive to having Kanter on the floor at this time.

3. The mentor comment about Robinson. I mean actually the offensive game is probably where Robinson needs the most work. If some of his interior moves can rub off on Robinson while he’s here, that’s fine.

The way I see it, Robinson should be mentoring Kanter on D.

4. I don’t believe Fiz will play him too many minutes at expense of the younger players

Wanna bet?

5. We aren’t tempted to overpay for a free agent this year. Maybe going after Randle would have been nice but really we need to chill on that front for a year.

Sorta agree, but if cap space can that easily burn a hole in Perry’s pocket, he’s gonna f up the rebuild anyway. You never know when an actually good FA move will come along (even low $ moves) so it’s always good to have space.

“Never seen a shit stew. How do you season it?”

“With the 2000-2018 New York Knicks’ seasons.”

Not completely sure, but I think you add a giant dollop of Curry at some point…

Oh yeah, that has always been a major advantage that the Knicks have had (the ability to get good players to sign here to play for a good Knicks team), an advantage that they’ve squandered for…hmmm…22 years or so? Allan Houston coming to the New York was the last time I think they got a notable player to come to the Knicks based on the whole “Come to New York to play on a good Knick team” approach.

Yeah, and that was the summer of ‘96 when Shaq, Jordan, and Reggie Miller were all free agents. And the Knicks ended up with Allan Houston, who was two years removed from one of the worst rookie seasons in NBA history.

@ 33 – its the past. let it go. focus on now!

See, the point is that the past does matter, and the Knicks have continuously bet that the “allure” of NY is going to lure superstars, and they will probably make that bet again. It’s not a safe bet, even if the Knicks do make themselves attractive with talent (which is also not a very safe bet to make).

“Never seen a shit stew. How do you season it?”

“With the 2000-2018 New York Knicks’ seasons.”

Not completely sure, but I think you add a giant dollop of Curry at some point…”

You people are the best

Noel would be the perfect guy to pair up with KP at the 4. He rebounds, can defend the perimeter, blocks shots, forces turnovers, has great defensive versatility and doesn’t need the ball in his hands all that much.

In theory Noel is the perfect guy. But why did Philly trade him for virtually nothing, and then why did Dallas not play him much? (This is a serious question, not a snarky rhetorical one:)

I’m definitely Noel curious, but the man is injured a lot. We could probably get him for cheap tho.

Well Z-Man…I tried.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal either way, so long as we don’t sign him long term. I also like that Kanter, despite being a terrible defender, will mix it up when one of his boys gets dissed. I just think that the best outcome is for him to opt out.

The key to tanking is acquiring draft picks. If somebody other than the stupid mustachioed hippie had come in here and correctly said, “this team is bullshit, I’m completely dismantling it” and then tried to convert everything of value on the roster into future draft picks, we’d be better off. Instead that fuckwit decided he needed Jose Calderon and Arron Afflalo and Carmelo Anthony and Derrick Williams and Sam Dalembert and Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah to prove to the world how awesome the triangle offense is. So now we’re trying to rebuild with one #9 pick every year and it’s slow as shit and irritating. The end.

Dear North Koreans,

You’ve been whining about your starvation and torture for years. What does it matter that my father and grandfather made your lives miserable? That’s in the past! FOCUS ON THE FUTURE.

Your beloved leader who bears no resemblance whatsoever to the leaders of the past,
Kim Jong-un

@72.

Why would we buy him out? His D is so bad, I don’t think he adds wins.

Here is a unicorn scenario:

– Kanter opts out tonight at 8:00 PM.
– By 10:00 PM we unload Noah, Lance and Lee to Dallas for an unprotected 2019 1st rounder and top three protected 2020 first rounder. Everyone goes nuts.
– At 11:00 AM tomorrow, WOJ tweets both Durant and LBJ are coming to NY to play with KP, Frank and Timmy. The internet brakes and entire worlds goes dark for 24 hours.
– By 6:00 PM we sign Kanter back with the full midlevel exception.

– Dan Gilbert, Joe Lacob and Jeannie Buss claim collusion and petition to Silver to hire Thomas Mueller to conduct a thorough investigation. Magic Johnson immediate resigns and Lakers hire Phil Jackson.

Fast forward to next June and NY defeats Houston in 5 games and wins a trophy.

Yeah, you for sure try to negotiate protection–or a non-2018 first rounder (since we’re guaranteed to be horrible next year)–I’m just not optimistic that LA would budge unless we were the only way they could get Kawhi.

or a non-2018 first rounder

I’m all for trading our 2018 first round pick, if we can get them to go for it. 😉

This is NOT about Phil, his lack of assets, or the mistakes he made. We’ve debated that. Phil took over at the end of 13/14. He made some suspect moves for 14/15 and then realized he had a team full of pinheads and malcontents. He cleaned house and came away with Porzingis.

Phil Jackson was so sick of pinheads and malcontents he proceeded to use significant capital on noted non-pinhead Derrick Rose and noted “constantly content guy” Joakim Noah.

Anyway, I think your premise is wrong and especially wrong as it relates to the Knicks. For the sake of argument, let’s say the Knicks landed their “star” in Porzingis in the 2015 draft. We didn’t have a pick in 2016 so while Jackson’s moves that summer were hilariously stupid for many reasons (opportunity cost), they didn’t effect us as it relates to the draft.

Fast forward to 2017. For the first time since, I dunno, the Ford administration we have all our picks going forward. We have one highly intriguing young player and just about jackshit else besides a melting Carmelo Anthony. It was pretty much the ideal time to tank. If not for Lee, KOQ, Jennings, and to some extent Melo (Lee and Jennings were signed that offseason, KOQ easily could’ve been moved, and Melo could’ve either trudged along with a shitty team or accepted a trade) that team absolutely could have competed for a top 3 pick despite the fact that, in your framing, it had already landed its star.

This is because in the Knicks case, Porzingis hadn’t developed to the extent that he was winning a lot of games by himself, and more generally speaking, one home run pick in the high lottery will rarely do so in his second season.

I might trade an unprotected future first for Ball but I’d have to think long and hard about it. Obviously he has to improve his shooting- if you were to play he and Frank together that might be the worst shooting backcourt in NBA history. Also- while his defensive stats were good, in games I watched L.A. tended put him on the worst player they could. Ingram and KCP played on the ball more than Ball did. Still a terrific rebounded and passer but J. Kidd without all-NBA defense isn’t J. Kidd. A lottery protected pick would be a no brainer, top five protected probably, unprotected I don’t know.

I would ask for a top-4 protection for any 1st I trade for Ball, but I would let that go for top-2 protected. I’d love to see Ball as the first competent Knicks’ PG since Chauncey, but I’d much rather have Barrett or Williamson, the latter of whom looks so much like Charles Barkley that I’d weep if we missed him because of an owed pick.

Odds are (as noted above) that the Knicks will pick outside of the top 2 even if they’re the worst team in the league, only because we know that the Knicks will never actually tank, so they could have a worse team at “full strength” but eke out meaningless wins in March and April, per usual, as the smart teams bench their good players and return to the lottery to steal future All-NBAers while the Knicks draft project players with shitty college stats. Because, haha, Knicks.

LaVar in NYC will be a disaster. Mark my words. Though Ball and Ntilikina together is so enticing and would be the best guard combo in NYK history since Houston/Spreewell with a possibility to rival Frasier/Monroe IF Lonzo fixes his stroke and Frank drastically improves his handle.

Jesus, I hate that this Ball trade idea has been planted into my brain. My draft crush feelings are coming back. With Ntilikina and Ball we wouldn’t need big time rebounders up front, just have our front court bigs box out, and let our 6’6 PG and 6’7 SG grab the rebounds ready to push the ball up the court. My god. Why did you people do this to me? You’re giving me hope, and that’s very cruel.

best combo guard since Marbury and Hardaway.

Lonzo and Frank is enticing

I would insist on top 3 protection for Ball.

I don’t know how bad we’ll be but a top pick is possible. We tanked very well down the stretch this year, worst record in the NBA from Feb-end of the season. There was nothing more we could have done to lose more games short of straight-up cheating. I have faith if we suck next year we’ll tank well enough to get a shot at a top pick.

Trade for Ball, sign Noel, develop defensive culture. Sign me up.

Trade for Ball, sign Noel, develop defensive culture. Sign me up.

This team has been 26th, 23rd, 18th, 28th and 24th in defense since 2012. You expect me to believe we can undo a perennially-terrible defensive culture by simply replacing the coach and all of the players on the team????????

Zion Williamson is like a 6’6″ Russell Westbrook. I think he might actually be a guard and the weight concerns probably have him lower on the list than he should be, but hopefully his motor and defense at Duke allow teams to see him as the top 5 pick he actually deserves to be. And even as awesome as Zion Williamson is, he isn’t even half as good as RJ Barrett, and Cam Reddish is a better player than him. Duke might actually end up with 3 players taken in the top 5 of the 2019 NBA Draft.

It’s nice to debate the Ball trade but why bother? Why would Magic do that? It would be colossally stupid.

Not only that, LeBron has got to know that there is no permutation of the Lakers that can compete with the Warriors in the next couple of years. Even with Kawhi and Paul George, they are still not as good as the Dubs.

It’s just not happening.

Can’t we get in on this trade and bypass the Magic?

Good, we need some talented wings.

Something tells me Lebron is just content to finish off his career in a place he and his family finds attractive to live. If he was all about beating Golden State he’d go to the Rockets in a heartbeat. But he’s already mentioned how the city of Houston doesn’t appeal to him so much. It’s basically LA for him at this point.

Zion Williamson is like a 6’6? Russell Westbrook. I think he might actually be a guard and the weight concerns probably have him lower on the list than he should be, but hopefully his motor and defense at Duke allow teams to see him as the top 5 pick he actually deserves to be. And even as awesome as Zion Williamson is, he isn’t even half as good as RJ Barrett, and Cam Reddish is a better player than him. Duke might actually end up with 3 players taken in the top 5 of the 2019 NBA Draft.

He’s as much a guard as the 6’5.75″ Draymond Green is a guard. You really have to be married to traditional position height to think this man will be a ball-handler in the NBA.

Since his sophomore year, he’s scored 2715 points in 2220 minutes on .774 TS%. Only 129 shot attempts of ~1500 came from 3PA. He also rarely passes the ball, which is okay when you score ~2 PPS. And now he’s posting videos of himself casually dunking from the FT line.

Also, “weight concerns” never stopped Barkley or Shaq. Until they got old, at least. If this dude can dunk from the foul line at 270+ lbs., please, please, please tank for the #2. Tank. Please.

I literally could not believe how big Williamson is when I first saw his highlights. He is built like a freaking truck but moves very fluidly with some pretty damn impressive ball skills.

I’m pretty hyped about the 2019 class, but I just can’t trust the Knicks to be sensible and tank for a top 3 pick so yeah, I guess it’s always Dolan’s Razor and JK47 was right all along.

The Lakers are reportedly desperate, that’s why they would do it, specially since the Spurs can really just hold them as hostages for how long they want.

We know for sure that the Spurs are desperate. It would be foolish for the Lakers to trade their future for a win-now team. Not to mention that George is overrated.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I kind of doubt that Magic Johnson is going to be the kind of GM that is going to patiently build with young players. I live in LA, and Laker culture is all about the starzz, the big names, Showtime and all that.

They have some decent young pieces there. Brandon Ingram was one guy who looked like complete shit to me as a rookie, but he was a lot better this past year, to the point where I think he might be a pretty useful player in this league. He can do some things. He’s a Jarred Jeffries type defensive player and I mean that as a compliment.

I think the Lakers and Spurs are just terrible trade partners for one another. If you trade Ingram, Kuzma, and Randle to Gregg Poppovich they’re going to kill you in 5 years. If you trade Kawhi Leonard to the Lakers he’s going to kill you tomorrow, and both teams have hopes of competing today and tomorrow.

I think it’s obvious; the Spurs have no choice but to trade Kawhi Leonard to the Knicks.

As long as the spurs have pop and/or his system and culture they are not desperate. They still made the playoffs last year with Leonard not playing the whole year and if they decided to finally do a rebuild after almost 20 years of dominance and 6 titles, I believe their fans would 100 percent get behind it bc they probably trust their front office can mpletely at this point.

Serious question: would we actually want Kawhi? Isn’t his injury what destroyed Danny Granger’s career? Do we know enough to be sure that the same thing wouldn’t happen to Kawhi?

I don’t think we have a genuine chance of getting him; I’m just wondering if people think it would be a good idea (assuming that the Spurs will want a king’s ransom for him). He’s a top 5 player, maybe top 3, but….I could see a year of many missed games and then retirement.

pass on kawhi…. there’s a good chance the next good knick team doesn’t involve anyone on this roster… so there’s no point in endangering the future….

Pass. Too expensive, even for him. We’re not in any kind of position to take advantage of him anyway. Philly or Boston could give up assets and still field great teams, we can’t. LA has the cap space to add enough guys to field a strong team, we don’t.

How sad is it that ESPN made Woj do an Uncle Drew ad about how teams are targeting signing Uncle Drew? At least they let him throw an ad hashtag in there.