2016-17 Game Thread: Knicks @ Jazz

It’s funny, as the Knicks have been depressing me more for the next few seasons based just on how amazingly bad they are playing as of late, they at least let me feel better about their direct future, since they are SO bad that any wins would shock me now.

Boy, do the Knicks suck. “Ron Baker had an okay game in a blowout after a few shitty games by him, time to get excited!”

Let’s go? Knicks!

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30 thoughts to “2016-17 Game Thread: Knicks @ Jazz”

  1. *checks KB game thread comments midway through first quarter*

    *tumbleweed blows by*

    Back to work it is then.

  2. I’ll chime in!
    :-)
    Just getting tuned in. Knicks up?! Just for fun, tuning in to Utah radio broadcast. Who are these guys? Incredible homers.

    Need Sacramento to win.

  3. KP needs to learn how to roll to the freaking rack.

    Also, as a fun game that explains why we couldn’t win with Melo, look back and tell me when the last time was that a team won a championship without one of its best players being drafted by that team (or traded for on draft day).

    The closest thing I could think of in my lifetime was the Pistons, and even they had Tayshaun Prince playing like a beast that year.

  4. These Jazz announcers are absolutely blaming the refs for just about everything.

    Well, they did just admit that the Knicks are playing hard…

  5. These Jazz radio guys make Tom Heinson seem like a paragon of unbiased announcing!

    3rd quarter meltdown on the horizon.

    Sacto rolling over and playing dead at home.

  6. Also, as a fun game that explains why we couldn’t win with Melo, look back and tell me when the last time was that a team won a championship without one of its best players being drafted by that team (or traded for on draft day).

    “One of their best players” is an awfully vague qualifier. :)

    In other words, since Wade was one of their best players, the Big Three Heat would qualify, but come on, that team was based around a free agent signing (plus, technically last year’s Cavs added Lebron again due to free agency).

    But yes, obviously, it is rare for a team to win a title when they didn’t draft their best player.

  7. Jerry Krause, a man whose legacy as a GM both Phil and MJ would downplay, is dead. How fascinating that both would produce such a subpar legacy as NBA executives.

  8. “One of their best players” is an awfully vague qualifier. :)

    Fair enough, so make it top 3. Cavs had Kyrie, even if you don’t want to consider LeBron; Warriors had Klay, Steph, and Draymond; Spurs had Duncan, Parker, Ginobili; Mavs had Dirk; Lakers had Kobe; Bulls had Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc; Rockets had Hakeem; etc.

    The only one I can think off during my lifetime is Detroit depending on whether or not you considered Prince big 3. I’d probably have him at 4th best behind Chauncey, Rip, and Sheed but an argument can be made.

    Since Ewing left the Knicks did not have a legitimate homegrown star. KP could be that guy for us, but it’s gonna take work and The building of a culture. We’ll see where it goes

  9. I will admit that there are many things that factor into building a winning team, but chemistry and culture are essential: and those are best created when you are able to mold young players to your philosophy.

    So yeah, let’s hope KP and whoever the hell we draft this year can bring about some change

  10. The Knicks will be a team on the upswing starting this off season. The thing is we don’t know if we’ll peak as a Hawks/Wizards level organization or if we will eventually make an NBA Finals.

  11. Imagine how much better the Jazz would be without that low-volume center who can only dunk the basketball forcing his teammates to take higher-difficulty shots. Sad!

  12. I don’t understand why the Knicks are such a poor defensive rebounding team.

  13. Interesting to hear the Jazz announcers speculating on Hornacek’s problems with Jackson and Dolan. They just referred to Dolan as “crazy” and seem mostly to blame him for the Knicks’ problems.

  14. @18

    I legitimately believe the NBA should apply psychological evaluation tests for NBA prospective owners. It would have spared us the Donald Sterlings and Mike Dolans of the league.

  15. I’m currently performing a blood magick ritual in order to contact the relevant spirits needed to get Lonzo drafted by the Knicks does anyone care to sacrifice something with warm coursing blood in it to supplement my blood offering

  16. I am glad Hahn explained to Wally that the reason Gobert had all of those points was because our guards were getting into the paint at will and our bigs were coming over to help, leaving Frenchy alone at the basket to receive a Kobe assist.

  17. @20

    Tell the spirits Knicks fans have sacrificed at least 17 years of tears and dreams. It should be enough.

  18. @20
    Don’t forget my dream. Not long ago I dreamed that the Knicks will get the #2 pick in the lottery. The catch is that Charles Oakley was representing the Knicks…

    @21
    That’s also part of the reason that KP picks up so many fouls. Yes, he commits some dumb ones, too, but tonight he picked up a couple when coming over the try to stop penetrators, one where Rose got blown by, of course…

  19. KP is looking more comfortable in his own skin and will be a beast next season.

  20. @24

    Only if you sacrifice a goat in the light of a full moon on Walpurgisnacht

  21. Any thoughts of hornacek saying they will get players that fits the triangle?
    Most of us are biased that triangle is outdated but like shaq pointed out, when the young Knicks run the triangle it looks good. Triangle will also save us from ISO players like rose and Melo.
    Anyway I am optimistic with the draft lottery. I think we will hit the jackpot or atleast a top 3 pick. It’s time for the league to reward us the jackpot. Our pg for the next decade.

  22. @26

    I am not as offended by this direction as some others here. For one thing, the Triangle is a red herring. Our real problem as a team lies in our inability to defend. For another, I am fine building an offense without a ball dominant guard in a motion offense.

  23. One sequence with about 4:05 remaining in the 4th quarter encapsulated the entire season with the Knicks down by about 6.

    Melo hadn’t shot the ball in about 3 possessions so with time left on the clock, he forces up a contested shot which bricks, and the Jazz run Rose into a single screen which he chooses to loosely trail setting rotations and switches into motion which ends up in a lay-up for Gobert and KP 5th personal and he goes to the bench.

    Gobert looks like Bill Russell incarnated. The same type of quickness where he doesn’t have to commit to the block until late and doesn’t need the ball on the other end to be very effective. He is rapidly becoming one of my favorite players in the league.

  24. I don’t understand why the Knicks are such a poor defensive rebounding team.

    Because their bigs are constantly out of position covering for Rose’s allowed penetrations and Melo’s refusal to rotate to cover up for the center who challenges the shot?

  25. “Imagine how much better the Jazz would be without that low-volume center who can only dunk the basketball forcing his teammates to take higher-difficulty shots. Sad!”

    Yeah, imagine how much worse off they would be if they had a high-volume center who could not only dunk but hit 3’s and midrange shots, as well as defend and rebound. You know, one of those bums like Ewing, Hakeem or Robinson.

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