Knicks Morning News (2015.10.31)

  • [New York Daily News] Derek Fisher sticking with Knicks starting lineup for now (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 02:36:39 GMT)

    Derek Fisher went through 65 losses last season, so he tried to offer perspective when asked about shaking up the Knicks lineup.

  • [New York Times] Rondo, Cousins Lead Kings to 132-114 Win Over Lakers (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 05:54:37 GMT)

    Critics have been doubting that Rajon Rondo can ever become an elite player again. The veteran point guard, now with the Sacramento Kings, proved Friday night he still has some game.

  • [New York Times] Bledsoe, Knight Lead Suns to 110-92 Win Over Portland (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 05:51:44 GMT)

    Eric Bledsoe scored 22 points, backcourt mate Brandon Knight added 18 and the Phoenix Suns pulled away in the second half to roll past the Portland Trail Blazers, 110-92 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Warriors Remain Unbeaten With Win Over Rockets (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 05:39:29 GMT)

    Beyond the result, perhaps what pleased Warriors interim coach Luke Walton most on Friday was his ability to evenly distribute minutes in advance of a quick turnaround to New Orleans and the first back-to-back this season.

  • [New York Times] Towns, Timberwolves Beat Nuggets, Ready for Flip’s Memorial (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 04:54:37 GMT)

    Two emotional road wins to start the season for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Now, an emotional day awaits as they attend the memorial service of Flip Saunders.

  • [New York Times] Curry Has 25, Warriors Rout Rockets in West Finals Rematch (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 04:30:44 GMT)

    Stephen Curry scored 25 points and the Golden State Warriors beat the Houston Rockets 112-92 on Friday night in a rematch of the Western Conference finals.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: After Surgery on His Foot, Jodie Meeks Is Out Up to 4 Months (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:36:59 GMT)

    Detroit Pistons guard Jodie Meeks will miss the next three to four months of the season after foot surgery.

  • [New York Times] Lots of Love for Cavaliers in Win Over Heat (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:36:27 GMT)

    It did not take long for the Cleveland Cavaliers to figure out how to lean on their star forward for victories.

  • [New York Times] Westbrook Scores 48, Thunder Down Magic 139-136 in 2 OT (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:27:45 GMT)

    Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant have delivered plenty of highlights during their NBA careers.

  • [New York Times] Leonard, Duncan Lead Spurs to 102-75 Win Over Nets (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:12:31 GMT)

    Kawhi Leonard had 16 points and Tim Duncan added 15 as the San Antonio Spurs regrouped after a sluggish start to defeat the Brooklyn Nets 102-75 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Beal Scores 26, Wizards Beat Bucks 118-113 (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 02:57:32 GMT)

    Bradley Beal scored 14 of his 26 points in the fourth quarter, and the Washington Wizards came back from a 13-point deficit to beat the Milwaukee Bucks 118-113 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Bazemore’s 19 Points Help Hawks Hold Off Hornets, 97-94 (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 02:51:39 GMT)

    Dennis Schroder made Atlanta’s two-point guard lineup look good by scoring 14 points and the Hawks held off Charlotte’s late comeback to beat the Hornets 97-94 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Pistons Improve to 3-0, Outlast Bulls 98-94 in OT (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 02:39:44 GMT)

    Marcus Morris scored 26 points, Andre Drummond had 20 points and 20 rebounds and the Detroit Pistons took control at the start of overtime to beat the Chicago Bulls 98-94 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Raptors Roll Over Celtics 113-103 (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 02:30:50 GMT)

    DeMar DeRozan scored 23 points and Terrence Ross had 13 of his 21 in the fourth quarter as the Toronto Raptors took command in the second half and beat the Boston Celtics 113-103 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Jazz Beat 76ers 99-71 for 1st Victory of Season (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 01:48:52 GMT)

    Derrick Favors had 20 points and 12 rebounds and Rodney Hood scored 17 points to lead the Utah Jazz to a 99-71 victory over the Philadelphia 76ers on Friday night

  • [New York Times] James, Love Lead Cavaliers Past Heat 102-92 (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 01:42:59 GMT)

    LeBron James scored 29 points, Kevin Love added 24 with 14 rebounds and the Cleveland Cavaliers won their home opener, a 102-92 victory over the Miami Heat on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Mel Daniels, Hall of Fame Center With Pacers, Dies at 71 (Sat, 31 Oct 2015 00:39:48 GMT)

    Mel Daniels, the Hall of Fame center who helped the Indiana Pacers win three American Basketball Association titles, died Friday. He was 71.

  • 15 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2015.10.31)”

    In one of the news articles I read about Grantland after Simmons left but before it closed, an anonymous source was cited as saying that Simmons was difficult with ESPN, but that ESPN also had no idea how to manage creative people. That sounds very true to me. But I also suspect that Grantland lost a lot of money, even though it probably got a reasonable number of readers. So once it was getting negative press because of all the defections and stuff instead of the positive press it got while Simmons was there it was probably doomed.

    “Man I like KP but how long are we gonna rue those last two games? Towns looks great”

    I’m not ruing anything. First, having the worst record only slightly improves the odds of getting the #1 pick. At the end of the day, once the ping pong balls start bouncing, #1 vs. #2 hardly matters. Minnesota just got lucky. But in a way, so did we. Maybe we get the #2-3 pick and take Russell or Okafor, while Kristaps becomes a HOFer with the Lakers or Sixers. Keep in mind that the scout who recommended taking Porzingis suggested that they should take him even at #1! Who knows?

    Towns is clearly more NBA-ready than Porzingis, and may indeed have the better career. He has a young, healthy Patrick Ewing written all over him, with a more engaging personality. Obviously, with what we know right now, you trade Porzingis for Towns in a heartbeat. But it’s certainly possible that Porzingis winds up being a better 2-way player than Towns, maybe even much better. But for now, Towns has both the physical advantage and the advantage of being the #1 guy in Minny’s offense.

    Porzingis seems to lack confidence in his perimeter shot right now, and he seems a bit sloppy with his shooting mechanics, even from the line. Other than injury, that is what will make or break his HOF chances. Hopefully he’ll start making guys pay for laying off him on the perimeter.

    James Harden’s first 2 games: 10-39 FG, 3-22 from 3 PT range

    Damn it Beard, stop shooting already, you’re killing your team!

    Anyone have any idea how the DLeague draft works? Why is Thanasis able to pick his team (he apparently has decided to play for Westchester again) but Jimmer Fredette is in the draft (rumors are that Westchester will take him with the #2 pick)?

    Not Knicks related but..
    How come I rarely hear Fat Lever’s name pop up in the pantheon of really really good to great PG’s? For his career he averaged what..13ppg 6rpg 6.5 apg and 2 spg? He had a great 4 or 5 year run where he had roughly 19ppg 8apg 8rpg and 2spg. He was really good. Underrated, I would say. He also shot fairly well too.
    Back to NYK..
    I look forward to seeing how the team handles Wall and Beal tonight. I fully expect those 2 to play well against Sasha and Calderon. But, lost amidst the talk of how poorly they are playing defensively is how Fish is using them. It seems as if he’s using them to set a smart, patient tone on offense while playing G&G more minutes so they can push the pace like he wants. I kinda believe that would have been his plan even if Calderon and Vuj were better defensively. With a frontcourt of Lopez/KP/Melo, I don’t think it’s wise to look to push the pace like G&G does on that second unit. Well at least, not in the way they push the pace. I think the way Fish chooses to have the team defend Wall and Beal will be an indication of his growth as coach. I love the chemistry that the second unit has, led by Grant/Galloway/Williams/Oaq. I also think that Grant has great chemistry with everyone, especially KP and Galloway. I think his game allows him to build rapport quickly. He’s always got his head can tell he was coached up correctly as a PG

    Intersting notes thus far:

    If you sort the team by WS48, our 5 starters are at the bottom of the list, and KB whipping boy Sasha Vujacic is the only one above .100 (a solid .138)

    KB whipping boy Lance Thomas has a TS% of .795 and a WS48 of .170. He always does the non-scoring stuff at a pretty high level. For now, no one should be complaining that he’s getting too many minutes.

    Langston Galloway has a WS48 of .304, which is in LBJ territory. Jerian is a solid .148 on a TS% of .588.

    It could be argued that the starting lineup should be Melo (no sense in even considering him coming off the bench), O’Quinn, Thomas, Galloway and Grant, with a second unit of Kristaps, RoLo, DWill, Vujacic and Early. Fisher will never do this, and it probably would be best to balance the O and D on the two units, e.g. start Kristaps and bring O’Quinn off the bench. But the guard switch seems like a no-brainer.

    Most surprising thing of the young season: Houston losing 2 games at home by a combined 40 points. Losing to GS is no surprise, but they got blown out by Denver, who was subsequently blown out by Minnesota. Wow.

    Sign me up for one of Galloway or Grant on the floor at all times. I hate to jump to conclusions too soon but Calderon doesn’t look like he has a chance of being useful enough on the offensive end to make up for his terrible D. Let’s not wait until we are 2-8 to make an obvious move.

    (From the last thread)

    Man I like KP but how long are we gonna rue those last two games? Towns looks great

    I hear you, but though no other team dropped like the Knicks, it’s always possible. We had the second-worst record and dropped two spots; that could have happened to the team with the worst record, and we could have moved up. The percentages aren’t weighted SO strongly that any slot is even better than 25%.

    Last year, we had a 19% chance at the #1 pick. The Wolves had a 25% chance. That is not a huge difference. And in fact the odds of us getting the #1 pick were HIGHER than the odds of us dropping to #1.


    I mean, I agree that it was the height of stupidity to work hard to win two games at the end of a lost season that had that significant an impact on the team’s future. But the odds are so similar that it’s not a slam dunk, so to speak, that it would have worked out any differently.

    At least, that’s what I tell myself when trying to block out what it would mean to have KAT as our pick.

    Seraphin is back! Here come the wins!

    Though Fisher won’t guarantee how much he plays, even against his own team, since he loves Lance’s intangibles with the second unit.

    Meanwhile, Cleanthony Early sits, smiles calmly, and wonders when his turn comes.

    Anyone have any idea how the DLeague draft works? Why is Thanasis able to pick his team (he apparently has decided to play for Westchester again) but Jimmer Fredette is in the draft (rumors are that Westchester will take him with the #2 pick)?

    Westchester already had Thanasis’s DLeague rights, having acquired them in a trade with Delaware after the Knicks drafted him last year. If he said he didn’t want to play for Westchester anymore, a trade (likely for cash or draft considerations or something else minor) would surely be worked out with another team. No DLeague team has the rights to Jimmer yet, so he’s eligible for their draft.

    I think.

    Update: And Westchester did, in fact, take Jimmer with the 2nd pick. (Utah’s team took Jeff Ayres with the 1st.) As we all know, we need more guard depth, and Jimmer’s another lottery ticket to go with Saunders and Trice.

    With Washington playing the 2nd of a back-to-back after having a tough game in Milwaukee last night hopefully the Knicks find a way to pull this game out tonight cause if not they will be 1-4 since their next 2 games are home vs the Spurs then at Cleveland.

    Aha! I have the answer. You lose D-League rights to a player after their second year. So the Spurs couldn’t own Jimmer’s D-League rights since this is his fifth year in the league.

    With Washington playing the 2nd of a back-to-back after having a tough game in Milwaukee last night hopefully the Knicks find a way to pull this game out tonight cause if not they will be 1-4 since their next 2 games are home vs the Spurs then at Cleveland.

    The Spurs are weird, though, they treat the regular season like other teams treat the preseason, so I wouldn’t write that one off just yet. The Cleveland one should be a loss, though. But yes, it is definitely great to get Washington on the second night of a back-to-back. Even John Wall has to tire a little, right? Right? Right? Say right!!

    Not that preseason means much, but Wall didn’t kill us when we started Jose and Sasha a couple of weeks ago. So it may be possible.

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