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Tuesday, August 14, 2018

Knicks Morning News (2018.06.07)

  • [NYPost] David Fizdale wants to mold Knicks in some old-school ways
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 1:14:02 PM)

    New Knicks coach David Fizdale was at the Museum of Natural History on Monday night but mostly wanted to talk Knicks history. Fizdale attended the Bill Bradley tribute gala hosted by the Hospital for Special Surgery, and he met several of the Knicks’ 1970s legends who were on hand — Earl Monroe, Willis Reed, Walt…

  • [NYPost] Knicks are getting their first exclusive look at Villanova stud
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 6:43:37 AM)

    Villanova will be in the house. Mikal Bridges, the Wildcats’ premier small forward, will work out Thursday for the Knicks in Tarrytown, according to an industry source, after being linked to the franchise since February. The Knicks are starving for a small forward in the draft, and the 21-year-old Villanova junior won his second NCAA title…

  • [NYTimes] U.S. Team Would Dominate 3-on-3 Basketball. If Only They Could Qualify.
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 9:00:05 AM)

    A system designed by FIBA to increase global participation has thus far kept the United States men out. Will that work for the Olympics?

  • [NYTimes] Warriors Build N.B.A. Finals Lead as Kevin Durant Dominates
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 8:50:59 AM)

    Durant led all scorers with 43 points while Stephen Curry struggled. The Warriors now hold a 3-0 series lead over LeBron James and the Cavaliers.

  • [NYTimes] Keeping Score: Why N.H.L. Teams May Not Enjoy the Comforts of Home Ice
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:43:29 PM)

    The advantage of playing at home that bolsters teams in sports like basketball and football does not apply much in hockey.

  • [NYTimes] Kobe Bryant Talks ‘Detail’ Curse, LeBron James’s Teammates and More
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:31:12 PM)

    “Some of these fans that say that stuff are just idiots.”

  • [NYTimes] On Pro Basketball: LeBron James: The Strange Thrill of a One-Man Show
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 12:38:51 AM)

    Rarely has one of the N.B.A.’s supreme players chased a championship with less help and more athleticism. Will his thrilling performances prove futile?

  • [NYTimes] What Was J.R. Smith Thinking on the Last Play of Regulation?
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 12:30:51 AM)

    Game tied. A clutch rebound. Then a dribble to nowhere that will go down as a memorable N.B.A. finals blunder.

  • [NYTimes] Why Do the Warriors Dominate the 3rd Quarter? Consider Their Halftime Drill
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 12:31:45 AM)

    The Warriors outscored opponents by 130 points in the 3rd quarter this postseason. How they spend intermission may explain why.

  • [NYTimes] Not at the Game: Over, Easy: A Basketball Aficionado Foresees the Warriors’ Surge Past the Rockets
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 10:23:24 AM)

    Fabulous Flournoy, a Bronx native, has been a player-coach for a professional team in Britain for the past 17 seasons.

  • [NYDN] Ex-firefighter suing FDNY over discrimination, says Bravest bullying gave him PTSD
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 8:35:00 AM)

    For one Hispanic ex-firefighter, the FDNY’s heroic reputation has gone up in flames.

    Daniel Rivera says he was forced out of the Fire Department by his fellow Bravest — who allegedly used a childhood trauma to cruelly torment the smoke-eater over his tangential link to a years-old discrimination…

  • [NYDN] Two crooks rob restaurateur for $30G, snatch his clothes in Queens heist
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 3:15:00 AM)

    Two men robbed a restaurateur renting a room in Queens, forcing the victim to strip at knifepoint before taking off with his clothes and $30,000, cops said Thursday.

    Jeffrey Cen, 22, and another man still sought by police, slipped into a room the 38-year-old victim was renting on Maple Ave. near…

  • [NYDN] Daughter finds dad dead with stab, slash wounds on bed in his Brooklyn apartment
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 2:30:00 AM)

    A Brooklyn man with stab and slash wounds was found dead on a bed inside his home late Wednesday.

    The daughter of Simon Bouhadana, 55, found her father lying face-up on a bed in his apartment on Chestnut Ave. near Coney Island Ave. in Midwood around 10:25 p.m., according to authorities.

    The concerned…

  • [NYDN] My family story, and today’s abandoned refugees: Shame on the Trump administration
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 2:00:00 AM)

    When my grandpa began his long journey from Baghdad to New York in December 1945, he said goodbye to his home country of Iraq and the life he had known until the age of 18. And while he knew it would likely be a long time before he would be able to return, even he couldn’t imagine just how long…

  • [NYDN] Scott Weiland, former frontman of Stone Temple Pilots, dead at 48
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 1:46:36 AM)

    Scott Weiland, the flamboyant frontman for Stone Temple Pilots and Velvet Revolver, was found dead Thursday.

    The 48-year-old singer’s wife, photographer Jamie Weiland, confirmed the news of his death to The Los Angeles Times.

    “I can’t deal with this right now,” she said, sobbing. “It’s true.”

    SCOTT…

  • [NYDN] Clubgoer accidentally shot by off-duty FBI agent at Denver club breaks silence
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 1:20:00 AM)

    The clubgoer accidentally shot by a dancing, off-duty FBI agent trying to pick up his gun initially believed “some idiot set off a firecracker.”

    But Thomas Reddington soon realized the G-man struck him in the leg at the Mile High Spirits Tasting Room in Denver after midnight Saturday.

    “I’m still…

  • [NYDN] Call it the Raw Deal: Social Security and Medicare head toward the skids
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 1:10:00 AM)

    The news for America’s most important retirement security programs is about as grim as it gets, according to a new report from their overseer: Social Security’s trust fund is set to be depleted in 2034; Medicare’s, in 2026, three years earlier than projected last year.

    When those fateful days arrive,…

  • [NYDN] Celebrity chef Adam Harvey arrested for poisoning seven-story maple tree blocking his solar panels
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 1:00:00 AM)

    A tree dies in Brooklyn.

    A celebrity chef with a warped sense of going green poisoned a neighbor’s giant silver maple tree because it blocked sunlight from the solar panels on his Windsor Terrace home, the Brooklyn District Attorney’s Office says.

    Adam Harvey, 33, was arrested in May after neighbors…

  • [NYDN] New York college students pitching in to help Puerto Rico recovery
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 1:00:00 AM)

    Hurricane season officially began on June 1, and more than 11,000 Puerto Ricans are still living without power — eight months after Maria devastated the island.

    Residents outraged at the federal government’s response to Maria — and who are bracing for a new round of possible storms — have in the…

  • [NYDN] Students revolt against summer homework ‘abuse’ at Success Academy
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 1:00:00 AM)

    Give ‘em a break!

    Students are revolting against summer homework “abuse” at Eva Moskowitz’s Success Academy High School for the Liberal Arts in Manhattan.

    A new petition created by a pair of students says the school must scrap a plan to compel teens to read five books over the eight-week summer…

  • [NYDN] Readers sound off on the Pride and Puerto Rican parades
    (Thursday, June 07, 2018 12:00:00 AM)

    Don’t pen us in at Pride Parade

    Ridgewood: On Sunday, I had the distinct pleasure of participating in the 22nd São Paulo LGBT Pride Parade along with millions of other revelers, and the only barricades I saw were strategically placed around a first-aid tent. Of the thousands of marchers weaving…

  • [NYDN] Hawaiian neighborhoods completely destroyed as lava rolls into the sea
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 11:45:00 PM)

    Volcanic activity wiped out an entire neighborhood on Hawaii’s Big Island, as lava rolled into the ocean and hardened to formed new land.

    Molten magma destroyed homes in the Vacationland neighborhood Wednesday, the latest downturn on the state’s largest island, which has been rocked by eruptions…

  • [NYDN] President Trump wants to maintain secrecy of some Michael Cohen papers
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 11:30:00 PM)

    President Trump wants to make sure some of the papers the FBI seized from his lawyer Michael Cohen stay out of public view — and he wants to explain why using an extra degree of confidentiality.

    A new letter filed by Trump attorney Joanna Hendon in connection with the FBI’s investigation of Cohen…

  • [NYDN] Citizenship Now! 2018 kicks off with training sessions
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 11:00:00 PM)

    Nicaraguan immigrant Rosa Campos once paid $120 to a Colombian man in Manhattan who claimed he could help her become a U.S. citizen. But her elation turned to disappointment.

    The money got her nowhere — and later she saw the man on the news, exposed as a fraudster.

    That was 20 years ago, when Campos…

  • [NYDN] Food cart worker calls black woman the N-word, throws Gatorade bottle and Sriracha at her for trying to pay bill with change
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 11:00:00 PM)

    An unhinged Oregon food cart employee flipped out when a black woman attempted to pay her tab with loose change, according to wweek.com

    The disturbing footage shows alleged victim Carlotta Washington being called N-word after she asked the truck’s owner, Islam Elmasry, to pay in quarters.

    Elmasry…

  • [NYDN] Scott Pruitt and EPA staffers were asked to cut back on White House restaurant
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:20:00 PM)

    Embattled EPA boss Scott Pruitt was reportedly asked to cut back on his office’s use of a cramped White House dining hall after racking up hefty bills.

    Pruitt and Environmental Protection Agency staffers frequented the eatery below the West Wing so often that a White House official let agency personnel…

  • [NYDN] Isola: End is near for Cavaliers’ title hopes and likely LeBron James’ days in Cleveland as well following Game 3 loss to Warriors
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 10:05:00 PM)

    CLEVELAND – This will be an anxious and agonizing 48 hours for the Cavaliers and the city they refer to as The Land. The end is most certainly near; for the Cavs and probably for LeBron James as well.

    On a night when Stephen Curry suddenly lost his shot, Kevin Durant rescued the Golden State Warriors…

  • [NYDN] Secret Service blames Maryland authorities for lag in capturing wanted White House contractor
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 9:55:00 PM)

    Martese Edwards strolled through White House security for nearly a month after Maryland police say he shot his ex-girlfriend’s new lover.

    U.S. Secret Service officials claimed ignorance of the manhunt for 30-year-old government contractor, who was busted Tuesday afternoon when he tried accessing…

  • [NYDN] Mazzeo: Aaron Judge busts out of slump in big way to make Yankees’, young fan’s day
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 9:50:00 PM)

    TORONTO — Aaron Judge made a youngster’s day at Rogers Centre.

    The boy was in awe after realizing Judge had blasted him a souvenir homer during batting practice.

    And 13 innings later, No. 99 amazed the young Yankee fan again, crushing a two-run shot that snapped a scoreless tie and gave the Bombers…

  • [NYDN] Stick-up crew stole more than $100,000 in a string of business robberies in Manhattan and Queens
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 9:45:00 PM)

    A stick-up crew scored more than $100,000 in a string of violent robberies in Manhattan and Queens this year, police said Wednesday.

    Most recently, the crooks netted $60,000 in cash and $20,000 in checks when they robbed a construction company payroll in Corona, Queens, said cops.

    In that May 17…

  • [NYDN] Red Sox fans cause delay at Fenway Park by using cell phones lights during play
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 9:25:00 PM)

    They’ve graduated from Apple Watches to iPhones.

    Fans at Fenway Park caused a brief delay in the Red Sox vs. Tigers games Wednesday night by using cell phone lights as Detroit players were batting in the seventh.

    With one out in the seventh of Boston’s 7-1 win, fans across the stadium began turning…

  • [NYDN] Trump hosts Iftar dinner at White House as Muslim-American groups protest outside
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 9:05:00 PM)

    The Trump White House hosted its first Iftar dinner amid tensions with the Muslim community, which remained on full display outside the executive mansion Wednesday night.

    The administration faced criticism last year for skipping over the dinner for the first time in 20 years, and scrutiny remained…

  • [NYDN] Trump claims Coast Guard had to rescue people who ‘went out in their boats’ to watch Hurricane Harvey
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:55:00 PM)

    President Trump suggested that so many Texans were rescued by the Coast Guard during Hurricane Harvey because they were thrill-seeking daredevils who took to the seas to watch the storm.

    The commander-in-chief praised the military branch’s response to the August 2017 storm, which pummeled southeast…

  • [NYDN] Samantha Bee apologizes for distracting country from ‘more important issues’ in first ‘Full Frontal’ episode since calling Ivanka Trump the c-word
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 8:00:00 PM)

    In her first televised appearance since her “inappropriate and inexcusable” comments about Ivanka Trump, Samantha Bee said she was trying to “reclaim” the c-word when she used it as an insult.

    “The problem is that many women have heard that word at the worst moments of their lives. A lot of women…

  • [NYDN] Sister of Louise Turpin fears witchcraft obsession fueled alleged child abuse against 13 kids
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 7:55:00 PM)

    Louise Turpin’s sister says she’ll likely miss a crucial hearing in the horrific abuse of her 13 nieces and nephews, but new details revealed in her memoir could help prosecutors.

    Elizabeth Flores completed the brunt of her tell-all book days before police swooped in and busted her sister Louise…

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks to have workouts for Draft prospects Walker, Knox, and Williams
    (Wednesday, June 06, 2018 12:00:50 PM)

    As the Knicks ramp up workouts with potential lottery picks, they will host Miami’s Lonnie Walker IV, Kentucky’s Kevin Knox, and Texas A&M’s Robert Williams.

  • 79 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2018.06.07)

    1. Ingmarrrr

      I hope LeBron doesn’t stay in Cleveland, so we get to see him play a more appealing brand of basketball. This one man show is so boring.

    2. ess-dog

      I think he might try and go to Houston now. It’s going to take a major move to compete with these Warriors. I don’t think the Sixers core would be enough actually.

    3. Knick fan not in NJ at this time

      Oddly enough, I thought Mark Jackson was much better as a commentator than he has been many times. He made some good points about defense; and, even commenting on offense, at least once pointed out when shots shouldn’t have been taken, rather than just lauding the ones that went in.

      As for Durant carrying the team; he did, but also the Cavaliers made a tremendous (and mostly successful)) effort to stop Curry from getting the shots he got before. The price of that was Durant was usually not double teamed and often had a smaller defender on him.

    4. Ingmarrrr

      I think he might try and go to Houston

      It would be a balanced team in terms of inside outside with him at the 4 and I like their chances against the Warriors.

    5. mase

      I agree that Houston is his best chance of beating GS. Pg13 would also fit well there at 3, I know they can’t get both but a nice consolation prize if lebron is too steep

    6. Donnie Walsh

      Pg13 would also fit well there at 3, I know they can’t get both but a nice consolation prize if lebron is too steep

      Do the Rockets have cap space this summer? I don’t see how they can, with Paul’s cap hold and all. What am I missing?

    7. d-mar

      Do the Rockets have cap space this summer? I don’t see how they can, with Paul’s cap hold and all. What am I missing?

      They have to find teams to take on the Anderson and Gordon contracts, which would be challenging to say the least. And poor Melo would be left out of the Banana Boat reunion.

    8. thenoblefacehumper

      The easiest way to do it would be for LeBron to opt in on the condition that he’s traded to Houston. Then he could be traded for Anderson’s contract, some other contracts to make the money work, and any and all assets Houston could put together to make it worthwhile to Cleveland. I don’t see any other feasible way to get it done. This is how Chris Paul got to Houston so there is precedent.

    9. Ntilakilla

      Did anyone read this recent article on Miles Bridges? His advocates here will be very happy to see the author’s ringing endorsement of Bridges’ game.

      Bridges is an unusual player without many precedents, and the league is more forgiving of guys who don’t fit traditional positional archetypes than it used to be. He has the power-dunking ability of Larry Nance Jr., the physique of P.J. Tucker, and the finesse-oriented game of a shooter like C.J. Miles. There were only three players in the 2017-18 season who attempted as many 3s (5.5 per game) and grabbed as many rebounds (7.6) as Bridges did at Michigan State: DeMarcus Cousins, Kevin Love, and Aaron Gordon. Bridges is more versatile defensively than the two big men, and a better shooter than Gordon.

      It’s hard to see a scenario in which a player with his skill set busts out of the league, and it’s easy to see one in which he blossoms. He’s the younger and more advanced offensive player of the two Bridges in the lottery, and he will have an easier time creating mismatches than the much slighter Mikal. There aren’t many big men with the quickness to stay with him at the 3-point line, or perimeter players with the strength to body him up. Bridges doesn’t play the same position as Donovan Mitchell, and he may never be a lead ball handler, but there are some clear similarities between the two. He’s an elite athlete with a high basketball IQ, and he will get major minutes from Day 1 because he’s a volume 3-point shooter who can hold his own defensively. Miles Bridges isn’t just one of the safest picks in the draft. He has a real chance to be a star.

    10. The Glass Half Rebuilt

      I would be pretty disappointed if LeBron went to Houston. Golden State is about as unbeatable a team as I’ve ever seen because they all work as off ball scorers as well as shot creators, but Chris Paul, James Harden, LeBron James, and Clint Capela are all the class of their respective positions. To literally put four guys together who are the most productive at their position and then have an unimaginative coach like D’Antoni get the credit for that dynasty? I’d be pretty upset. I’d much rather see him go to Boston, and I hate Boston with my heart, soul, and pancreas.

      LeBron should just stay in Cleveland one more year and come to New York in 2019. I know losing has to be tough on LeBron, but there’s something to be said for a guy at 35 years old coming to New York and rebuilding the culture with all black leadership and a European franchise player. It would be iconic and a unique way for LeBron to sign off on his career. Even in Philly he could help build that team and “teach them how to win.” Go to Boston. Go to LA. But Houston? That just wouldn’t sit right with me.

    11. Ntilakilla

      Lebron is not coming to NY. Please get that out of your minds. He’s chasing MJ’s 6 championship rings. He’s not about to throw that opportunity away to gamble with a new front office, a unproven young star coming off injury, and little else in support.

    12. mase

      hes not going to boston, kyrie is there; lebron should say fuck it and go to milwaukee, him and giannis would be unstoppable

    13. Donnie Walsh

      credit for that dynasty

      Dynasties aren’t built around a couple of 35 year olds, one of whom has rarely been able to stay on a basketball court for a full season.

      The Rockets would have a 1 year window. And once it begins to close, they’d have nothing left to put around Harden and Capella. Compete with Warriors? Yes. Dynasty? No.

    14. Bruno Almeida

      LeBrons decision will say a lot about what he thinks of his own career for the future. If he doesn’t think he can keep this level and just wants rings now Houston is the only choice and maybe Boston, but that one is harder to make work with the whole Kyrie thing.

      If he thinks he has 4-5 more years in a similar level he definitely goes to Philly, as they will probably take a while to adjust but have the highest potential ceiling.

      And if all he cares about is his image then LA is the choice.

    15. Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, and one of the Bridges are going to lead us to the promised land"

      The question about Mile Bridges has been defense.

      He’s probably too small and doesn’t have the length to cover quite a few PFs in the league, but there’s also a question about whether he’s quick enough to guard SFs. I don’t have the answer to that question, but I thought it was a great sign that he supposedly lost 20 pounds. That’s screaming that he understands he’s more of an NBA SF that can play PF in a small ball lineup. If he can guard SFs every night (and switch to PF when appropriate), he’s an excellent fit next to KP because he’s a terrific athlete and REBOUNDER.

      It would be really nice to have the potentially elite defense of Mikal Bridges in our lineup (and his better scoring efficiency), but Miles is younger, more atheletic, may have more upside, and is the better fit.

      I don’t see either of these guys as some kind of consolation prize if one of them is selected before we pick. I’m hoping they are both available and after they are tested by our coaches and scouts they just pick the better one.

    16. Brian Cronin

      unimaginative coach like D’Antoni

      Annoyingly stubborn I get, but calling D’Antoni, the guy who came up with the game plan that the entire NBA (outside of, like, Phil and Thibs) has copied “unimaginative” seems way off base.

    17. Brian Cronin

      It seems highly unlikely that Lebron will ever win three more titles, so I really don’t know what is his best bet for his future. I think it’s probably to stay in the Eastern Conference, but if he really wants to make a short-lived super team in Houston, I guess I could see that. Just to beat the Super Warriors, like, at least once. :)

    18. DRed

      Miles is 6’5″ with a 6’9″ wingspan. That’s 2 guard size, except he’s 220lbs. He seems to have pretty good playmaking ability for a guy who played as a forward and he can shoot-maybe he has a future in the NBA as a huge guard? His one obvious statistical flaw is he was a low steals guy in college.

    19. Brian Cronin

      By the way, the Super Warriors are “only” going to have two titles after this year, and who knows what the future will hold? Three titles for the Warriors overall in four years is a super-impressive legacy, but it’s not, like, earth-shattering, ya know? We had a team win 6 in 8 years and it seemed normal enough at the time.

    20. rama, king of superfluous poppycock

      The only positive about the article filter pulling every kind of story in is that now I know a chef poisoned a tree in Brooklyn.

    21. DRed

      I still think Lebron’s best move in terms of winning is going to Philly. All they’d need is to find one or two vets who can shoot and play a bit of D every year. And if Fultz develops into a good player (not even an all star, just like a somewhat above average NBA PG) that team would be really something.

    22. Brian Cronin

      Good. I don’t know how you can possibly come back from that, so that’s good to see. Sad that he fucked it up so badly, but good that the response was handled correctly.

    23. Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, and one of the Bridges are going to lead us to the promised land"

      Miles is 6’5? with a 6’9? wingspan. That’s 2 guard size, except he’s 220lbs.

      He’s listed at 6′ 7″.

      6′ 5 1/4″ inches was without shoes.

      We need apples to apples comparisons with other players.

      If he’s legitimately smaller than Frank, then that could be an issue even at SF. That’s the kind of stuff I’m going to trust the team and scouts to determine.

      To me, he’s a good ball player and good fit.

    24. 2FOR18, understands math

      If I was LeBron I’d consider staying in Cleveland and trading the #8 pick for a cheap, NBA ready player to be his Robin – someone like Ingram, Booker, Hield, OG, Jamaal Murray, Dennis Smith Jr…..

      If they had one of those guys playing JR’s/Jordan Clarkson’s minutes, they might have won games 1 and/or 3.

    25. DRed

      Strat those are measurements from the combine. You can compare Miles to players who have been measured at this and past combines. Sadly we can’t compare him to a guy like Frank.

      He was a pretty good rebounder in college, even when he played the 4, despite being short and not having an impressive wingspan (PJ Tucker, who he gets comped to seems to have long arms) so it might not matter on the glass, but it certainly doesn’t help his defense.

    26. 2FOR18, understands math

      I’m going on record that those of you who prefer Miles over Mikal are going to feel real silly next year (and the year after that, etc).

    27. Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, and one of the Bridges are going to lead us to the promised land"

      The problem Lebron has is that you need at least 3 all star talents (preferably 2 out of 3 being superstars) and a deep bench to even get on the court with the Warriors. He needs to join with another superstar without that team being gutted or he has to bring a superstar into Cleveland to replace Irving without damaging the limited bench he has now. The Cavs do have that 8th pick and a few young players that could be moved to get another quality player to Cleveland, but probably not the caliber player he needs and not without gutting some of the long term/bench.

      If he’s really concerned about titles above all else, he has to go to either the 76ers, Houston, Boston, or maybe the Spurs if they can also keep Leonard. Leonard and Lebron would be a great start given that the Spurs will find ways to fill out the rest of the roster with productive players. I’m not sure how that could be worked out though.

    28. Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, and one of the Bridges are going to lead us to the promised land"

      I’m going on record that those of you who prefer Miles over Mikal are going to feel real silly next year (and the year after that, etc).

      I have no preference based on the information available.

      My view is that if someone takes Mikal before #9 I’m not going to start crying if we take Miles.

    29. Brian Cronin

      My view is that if someone takes Mikal before #9 I’m not going to start crying if we take Miles.

      My thing is that if Mikal is gone before #9, then that just means that someone better than Miles should be left at #9 (Carter, Young, Bamba, etc.)

    30. Brian Cronin

      The guys that I am very comfortable with are:

      Ayton
      Doncic
      Bagley
      Bamba
      Carter
      Jackson
      Young

      Then I like Mikal, but I can see the concern there.

      Then I like Porter, unless he’s really just in terrible shape.

      So if Porter is not in terrible shape, if Mikal goes before #9, that means that someone good will be there at #9, so Miles wouldn’t be needed.

      Of course, if Porter is in terrible shape, then that throws everything for a loop. Then I guess Miles would have to be the consolation prize.

    31. ptmilo

      The only positive about the article filter pulling every kind of story in is that now I know a chef poisoned a tree in Brooklyn.

      the algorithm is obviously not broken but in fact is fast approaching singularity and quickly recognized this as an on-the-nose Prokhorov metaphor

    32. DRed

      Yeah I’d be okay with Miles in a vacuum-I think he’s a pretty good prospect and we’re drafting 9th, but there is a chance there are going to be one or two clearly superior prospects available when we pick.

    33. Brian Cronin

      By the way, I don’t know how in the world an independent investigator went with “Colangelo didn’t know what his wife was doing.” I mean, for serious? Either way, he should be fired, but come on now.

    34. mase

      The only way he goes to the spurs is if they can re sign kwahi, if they do they have no space for Lebrun so that eliminates the Spurs doesn’t it,?

      Houston is a similar scenario and both teams are out west and I don’t think that’s his preference but the end game is to beat GS, so lebron has to ask himself if it’s possible to beat them next year cuz it might not be in Houston or spurs if they have to gut the teams to acquire him.
      So that really leaves one option Philly cuz Boston with Kyrie is not viable.

    35. Farfa

      It might be just me, but I think that whoever ends up picking Bagley will regret it big time.

    36. rama, king of superfluous poppycock

      the algorithm is obviously not broken but in fact is fast approaching singularity and quickly recognized this as an on-the-nose Prokhorov metaphor

      I laughed, but now I’m worried for Kenny Atkinson.

    37. Hubert

      hes not going to boston, kyrie is there;

      If LeBron decides he wants to go to Boston, Kyrie will be traded out of there faster than you can read this post (probably to Cleveland in a package for LeBron).

      I don’t think he’ll go there either, though. I actually don’t think the guy is looking at it the way we are, i.e. trying to find the best path to a title. I’m sure he wants to win, but if he wants to live in LA because he thinks that’s what’s best for him and his family, I think he’d just go there and continue being great AF.

    38. Hubert

      still think Lebron’s best move in terms of winning is going to Philly.

      It also could be his best move in terms of empowering himself and his business partners. He could leverage his free agency to get Rich Paul installed as Colangelo’s replacement. I do think his ultimate goal is to own a team and run it with the people who he’s been with his whole life.

    39. TheOakmanCometh

      If LeBron just wants to catch MJ’s 6 titles he should sign in Golden State for whatever money they can clear. He will be guaranteed 2 titles in 2 years, and will have like a 75% shot at 3 in 3 years. He’ll be remembered as the greatest player ever on the greatest team ever.

      It’d be a ridiculous move on 10 different levels, but that actually is a thing he could do.

    40. mase

      Gs doesn’t need lebron, lebron needs Gs. Gs needs to figure out how to get better fir the long term and sign players like Ingram not lebron.

    41. Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, and one of the Bridges are going to lead us to the promised land"

      My thing is that if Mikal is gone before #9, then that just means that someone better than Miles should be left at #9 (Carter, Young, Bamba, etc.)

      I hear you. I’m still a little skeptical of Porter and Young, but if they went that way we could get the upside surprise.

    42. DRed

      By the way, I don’t know how in the world an independent investigator went with “Colangelo didn’t know what his wife was doing.” I mean, for serious? Either way, he should be fired, but come on now.

      They went with ‘we can’t prove he knew what his wife was doing’.

    43. rama, king of superfluous poppycock

      Didn’t Scott Weiland die a few years ago?

      It would take ptmilo to analyze why the algorithm pulled that one. What’s the frequency, Kenneth?

    44. rama, king of superfluous poppycock

      On a serious note, wasn’t a poster going to do a full look at all the draft prospects?

    45. nicos

      I think people are a little too in love with wingspan right now. To me the most important attributes for a defender are effort and lateral movement. Wingspan certainly helps but it’s not the be all and end all. If Miles can show enough lateral movement to stay in front of guys he’ll be fine. I’d still lean towards Mikal but I can see the Knicks going with Miles given that the two are pretty close and Miles might be a better fit. I do think Cleveland taking Sexton if Young goes to Orlando is a possibility- they have zero and I mean zero shot creation outside of LBJ- and that would allow someone like Porter Jr. or Carter Jr. to slip.

    46. chrisk06811

      I feel like the deadline deals Cle made had to be driven by Lebron. I wonder if there was an internal statement there; I’ll stay if we do this. If that is the case, I think they have to trade that pick and a player for a stud. Like, Would OKC do a sign and trade, 2 yrs, $20M and send Paul George for Rodney Hood and the pick? I don’t see a Kawai deal working.

      If he goes somewhere else with a better team and still doesn’t win, he’s hurting his legacy. If he goes somewhere else with low odds to win, it’s got to be somewhere like LA. You don’t take a step back and move from home to Milwaukee.

    47. Frank

      I’d be ok with Carter but still really don’t think it would be an amazing use of a lottery pick assuming we believe KP is still what we thought he was pre-injury. The Horford comparisons are great, except that we should really think of the Celtics bigs position as Horford + Baynes + whatever wings are playing the 4 in their small lineups. They bring Baynes in when they need more rebounding etc. Carter is a good rebounder, but in this Celtics analogy, one of KP or Wendell Carter has to be Baynes — ie. the guy who plays 25 minutes/game, or even less when you’re playing a team going small like GS or Houston, or even Cleveland. Do we want to relegate our lottery pick to a being a guy who is going to play 25 minutes/game max in a playoff series?

      I think we’d be much better off getting KOQ to sign a team-friendly contract and use our pick on a wing — someone that could play 40 minutes with KP in a playoff series.

    48. Frank

      Would OKC do a sign and trade, 2 yrs, $20M and send Paul George for Rodney Hood and the pick? I don’t see a Kawai deal working.

      I’m sure OKC would do it. I’m sure Cleveland would do it. Unfortunately for both those teams, George is an unrestricted free agent and gets to choose where he goes. I guess theoretically George could sign a contract and then get traded, but he can’t be signed/traded to Cleveland because they’d be hard-capped if they accept a player in sign and trade, and they are WAY over that threshold assuming they keep Lebron. If they don’t keep Lebron, then of course there’s no reason for PG to go there.

    49. mase

      “You don’t take a step back and move from home to Milwaukee.”

      You do if giannis is there, I mean like a scenario where the king is doing it for the live of basketball and wants to play with giannis… if he did something like that I would have more respect for him than just leaving Cleveland to have a ring. That would show character, unlike KD and his pursuits.

    50. ess-dog

      As much as I like Carter, I do think it could be difficult playing him and KP against better shooting teams. The scary thing about this draft, though, is that Carter could end up being a better player than KP! It might be a moot point, as I think Carter will go top 8.

      If he, Porter and Young are all gone at 9, then I’m kind of ok with either of the Bridges or Sexton. I think all three will be good role players and all of them will likely be starters.

    51. Ben R

      I don’t think Mikal will be as good of a pick as people think. I see a plus defender but I don’t see elite, offensively I see a good shooter who is great in transition but not someone who can create for himself or others. If he was a freshman instead of a redshirt junior then I’d be less concerned but as is I see his upside as a lot more Danny Green than Klay Thompson.

      I’m not in love with Miles either, his low steals and blocks are worrisome and he is much more intriguing as a small 4 than a big 3 and I do wonder about his size if he is a full time 4. He’s a coin flip with Mikal, lower floor higher ceiling.

      Carter will be a good player but I think moving forward our goal should be 2 bigs, 6 wings, and 2 guards, also wings have more value than bigs right now and our best player is already a big and might not be a great fit next to Carter.

      Honestly if Young or Porter don’t fall I want Zhaire Smith. I think he has more defensive upside than either of the Bridges and should be strong enough to play the 3 even if he’s a bit short. He looks like he could develop into an elite defender and is already a better passer and rebounder than Mikal despite being 3 years younger.

    52. nicos

      Would trading #8 and Clarkson for Kemba get LBJ to stay? I’m not sure they could do better than that and it doesn’t seem like it would be enough to get LBJ to stay given that it doesn’t even insure they’ll get out of the east next year.

    53. mase

      I don’t think Cleveland would trade the pick and Carlson for one year of kemba to entice James to stay.

    54. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      @53

      Peak Danny Green was a better player than Thompson has ever been

      I like Klay but he is a perennial candidate for most overrated player in the league (especially on defense) along with, like, George, Melo, and Cousins. This is another way of saying that GSW really still should have traded for Love if Klay was the asking price.

    55. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      The Cavs players by age in order of MP, descending:

      33
      32
      29
      31
      31
      36
      26
      25 (Clarkson, with an all-time-worst playoff performance)
      25 (Nance, who is the only player aside from James with a >0.4 BPM)
      25 (Hood, more ass-garbage)
      36
      Osman (who cares)
      Zizic (ibid.)

      There’s virtually nothing they can do to improve year over year, as it seems impossible that any of their players will actually improve. Even Clarkson, Nance and Hood are at an age where you’d expect a player to hover around career highs, not to suddenly become world-beaters after years of mediocrity (at best).

      Kemba, even at age 28, ain’t gonna fix it. He’s like Kyrie with a slightly-worse shot. The only way they’re going to make waves is by pulling off a Pau Gasol-level heist for someone like Anthony Davis, and, haha, no, not happening.

    56. dtrickey

      Upside for Cleveland if LeBron leaves is it would be easier to sell a complete tear down of the dumpster fire to the fans.

    57. Grocer

      I think he’s staying in Cleveland. He went through the whole shit with the big three, he’s seen the shit Durant got for going to the Warriors. He’s a home town hero and he’s got immense respect that he didn’t really have before. Remember when he flopped all the time? He’s already in the convo for the GOAT without Jordan’s rings. He doesn’t need them for the respect, and he risks losing that respect if he leaves.

      Maybe the Cavs make medium to small moves this summer, draft a contributor, Lebron comes back next year with a team that wasn’t thrown together at the trade deadline.

    58. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      The crazy thing is that the team he got at the deadline was much, much better than the one he had before it. IT was washed, Crowder sucked for no discernible reason (I think the 3PT line is the same in Cleveland as it is in Boston), Shumpert sucked, Wade is cooked, and the great Derrick Rose? At least another offseason of working on his J until he’s back to MVP form.

      But then again, Jeff Green is old, George Hill is old, Calderon is old as fuck, Love is about to turn old, J.R. Smith is old, Clarkson lol, and Larry Nance is awesome and will continue riding the bench because “analytics sux.” They have nothing of value aside from future draft picks. They’re fucked.

      If Cleveland fans turn on the man who brought them to four consecutive Finals with mediocre teams, and won one against a 73-win juggernaut, he has every right to turn his back on them. If Dan Gilbert offers him an ownership stake, he stays. Anything other than that and I don’t see how he stays. Romantic idealism about being the hometown hero aren’t going to keep him there if they’re conscious of the impending 44-win team and first-round exit, which will be even more likely next year than it was this year (and remember how close they were to that very thing).

    59. d-mar

      Crowder sucked for no discernible reason (I think the 3PT line is the same in Cleveland as it is in Boston)

      Danny Ainge not only drafts and trades well, he has the uncanny ability to make players worse when they leave Boston (see Jae Crowder, Avery Bradley, Isaiah Thomas)

    60. mase

      He def got a better team after the deadline. Lue should’ve used hood more with j.r. But that’s besides the point.

      But offering Lebron a share in ownership would Be like asking him to retire while he’s still prime, why would he accept that, he already de facto GM.

    61. Hubert

      Do we want to relegate our lottery pick to a being a guy who is going to play 25 minutes/game max in a playoff series?

      I think he can be more than that…

    62. Hubert

      But this…

      I think we’d be much better off getting KOQ to sign a team-friendly contract and use our pick on a wing — someone that could play 40 minutes with KP in a playoff series.

      … is a great point.

      The added value of a wing is much higher than what Carter brings over KOQ. Maybe I should adjust and consider KOQ a building block. I’ve mostly thought of him as someone who is leaving.

    63. dtrickey

      Man if Cleveland fans turn on LeBron they can well and truly get f@#%ed. Been to the Finals 4 straight years, won a chip against arguably the best regular season team in history. If they have any love for the man, they should humbly accept what he has done and let him chase whatever goals he has for the remainder of his career. If he stays, I don’t see how they have any choice but to induct him into the rock and roll hall of fame and make him mayor.

      The ownership idea is an interesting thought, but I am not sure he takes it. He doesn’t seem to be ready to finish up as LeBron the player. Willing to be proven wrong, but I think it is a forgone conclusion he leaves. Only way this team gets better in the short term is to trade the pick for another All Star sidekick to go with Love. Issue now is with Boston being serious contenders, the East isn’t the cakewalk it once was, so I am not even sure another All-Star gets them over that hump.

    64. Grocer

      I don’t think Cavs fans are turning on Lebron. This is not a Melo situation he’s in.

    65. mase

      If they turn on him then they have a reason. He already got his rings in Miami. We would do the same thing.

    66. Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, and one of the Bridges are going to lead us to the promised land"

      Danny Ainge not only drafts and trades well, he has the uncanny ability to make players worse when they leave Boston (see Jae Crowder, Avery Bradley, Isaiah Thomas)

      Ainge and Stevens are brilliant basketball minds.

      Stats tell you how productive a player was. They don’t tell anything about the contribution of your teammates, system, and role on the team to them. IMO, at the margin, those things matter. We see it when the scenario changes enough that variations in the players stats are too large to be just random noise. Good GMs and coaches find players that fit their system and use them in ways that maximize their productivity.

    67. mase

      Ainge is a cut throat and his legacy will be that. Without bird he wasn’t shit. Any GM who deals with him should know that.

      Crowder, Bradley Thomas all role players who ainge used effectively and GMs know that they are not stupid. That’s the gamble they took thatvthise player would flourish. In the flip side they all probably hit the learning curve hard and the hope is they learn lessons becoming more efficient and stronger players.

    68. Brian Cronin

      Just think of how insane it is that Lebron has made it to nine goddamn NBA Finals. It’s unreal.

    69. Brian Cronin

      In the last 40 years, the Knicks have appeared in two NBA Finals. In the past 12 years, Lebron has appeared in nine!

    70. dtrickey

      At least we have 2 appearances. Clippers and Nuggets haven’t even got to the big dance in their 40 plus years in the league.

    71. ess-dog

      Whoa, NBADraft updated their mock to have Orlando take Mikal at 6. Do they know something we don’t?

    72. Brian Cronin

      What’s your point? Lebron is great

      Just marveling at the unrealness of it all.

    73. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      881 minutes played and he accounts for ten VORP wins against replacement. Ten! His teammates, in sum, are responsible for 0.5 wins against replacement. What the fuck.

    74. Bruno Almeida

      And yet we have Kobe Bryant, the guy who never achieved anything without superstar teammates and won 34 games and missed the playoffs with a team about as bad as this Cavs saying that LeBron has “good talent” around him. Yeah right.

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