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Saturday, November 17, 2018

Game Thread: New York Knicks at Atlanta Hawks

Game Thread: New York Knicks at Atlanta Hawks

Start Time: 11/07/2018 19:30:00

Young guns clash as Knicks visit Hawks

Two of the youngest teams in the NBA meet Wednesday when the Atlanta Hawks host the New York Knicks in their second meeting of the season.
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Pre Game Links:

  • [cbssports.com] Young guns clash as Knicks visit Hawks
  • [peachtreehoops.com] Preview: Hawks host Knicks in opening night rematch
  • [nypost.com] Knicks’ Kevin Knox is ready to go full-out again
  • [cbssports.com] Knicks’ Lance Thomas: Questionable Wednesday vs. Hawks
  • [gwinnettdailypost.com] Kemba Walker, Hornets overtake Hawks in second half
  • 103 comments on “Game Thread: New York Knicks at Atlanta Hawks

    1. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      That Bulls game was such a downer, I’m glad Knox may get some good run tonight. That will give me a reason to get into the game. I want to see what he can do.

    2. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      I boldly predict that Frank will hit a three tonight.

      3 points on 36 minutes? :-)

    3. Z-man

      Tonight is another one of those “means nothing” games. This is a notch above the G-League finals. The highest WS48 of any Hawks rotation player is .114 (Dedmon.)

    4. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      MIN-LAL

      Which, according to pundits’ preseason polls, would have been a possible WCSF matchup. We here at Knickerblogger knew that Wiggins would continue to suck ass and 33-year-old LeBron couldn’t carry a bunch of scrubs to 50 wins in the West over 82 games.

    5. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      The Lakers miss Julius Randle a bit. That’s a player I wish we had here, though Vonleh is doing fine as a cheaper piece.

    6. DRed

      The Lakers have a bunch of productive players and then they have Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram and Kentavious Caldwell Pope. They should be patient and if things don’t improve as the year goes along you can try to deal Kuzma and Ingram.

    7. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      We here at Knickerblogger knew that Wiggins would continue to suck ass

      Understatement of the year. That has to be the worst contract in the NBA.

    8. dtrickey

      Only watched a couple Laker games, but it doesn’t seem like they should be in panic mode yet. Offence is running okay (or at least as well as you could expect) but they are getting crushed on D. LeBron seems to be coasting at the end of the floor, but given it’s still November why would he be overly exerting himself yet? Chandler should help a little, but he isn’t the solution.

      Hoping Knox gets a bit more burn tonight if we are sans Lance and THjr.

    9. dtrickey

      Across the NBA, this looks like a boring night of basketball. What’s the marquee game, MIN-LAL?

      Philly v Indy maybe?

    10. Knick fan not in NJ who thinks our rookies will lead us to a lousy lottery pick in 2019

      It’s not the marquee matchup but I am interested in how the suddenly good Sacramento Kings do at home versus Toronto.

    11. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      I don’t understand the Trae Young hype. We knew he could pass and score. The problem was his efficiency, TOs, and defense. So far his scoring efficiency has surprised me to the upside. I thought his TS% would be more like 50% as a rookie and it’s 53.8% so far, but he can’t defend a lick and is a TO machine.

    12. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Trey Burke’s career is in a death spiral after a such a terrific year last year. Now he’s playing behind Mudiay.

    13. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      You can’t stop Vonleh. You have to let him get his! :-)

    14. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      All the players are huge from the 8th row

      I’m in the black Knicks jacket 8 rows behind the Knicks bench

    15. Jack Bauer

      Have a great time at the game Silky. Of course they look huge, remember the East, it’s big man.

      Atlanta is going to be very hard to out tank this year

    16. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Kanter, Knox, Hezonja, Trier and Mudiay on the Court.

      That lineup should prompt an investigation from the league office to see if there was any suspicious gambling action against the Knicks.

    17. dtrickey

      That lineup should prompt an investigation from the league office to see if there was any suspicious gambling action against the Knicks.

      A large bet was placed against the Knicks by a Schavid Schizdale.

    18. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      The Knicks are calling this a developmental year. That’s the positive spin on giving playing time to terrible young players hoping they will merely be bad next year.

      I wish they would at least play the young players that have a chance to be good.

    19. DRed

      I’m watching the game and couldn’t tell you what happened the last 8 minutes or so-just completely spaced out

    20. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Bernard King seems like very likable guy.

    21. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      @37

      I don’t have a full appreciation of Bernard as a player. When he was at his peak I was at my peak “partying” years and sort of drifted away from sports for a few years. I wish I watched more of that period.

    22. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      @1

      I boldly predict that Frank will hit a three tonight. The Law of Averages is on my side.

      Who do you like in the first at Aqueduct tomorrow?

    23. The Infamous Cdiggy

      I know it’s still early in the season, and I know many of us are concerned that we might not be bottom 3 (and remember that flattened odds may indeed weaken Dolan’s Razor for us). But between the Wizards’ game, the Bulls’ game, and this one so far, I’m not so sure we don’t have a legit shot at bottom 3.

    24. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Brickikina looking a little better tonight.

    25. Jack Bauer

      “The Knicks are calling this a developmental year. That’s the positive spin on giving playing time to terrible young players hoping they will merely be bad next year.”

      +1

    26. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Serious question.

      Does anyone (including the Knicks front office) really think someone like Durant is going leave the Warriors to come to NY to play with this team?

      Granted, we’d be a lot better with KP, but still.

    27. Donnie Walsh

      In other news, looks like Whiteside’s knee is feeling better. 16pts, 14rebs, and 8 blocks at halftime.

    28. nicos

      I’m predicting Knox will see some time in the G-League this year. Also- nice bounce back game from Frank so far.

    29. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Still very downtrodden that we have to endure an entire season of this.

      Rebuilds are supposed to be about bottoming out and then slowly adding draft picks and other good players. You get better each year after bottoming out. The Knicks bottomed out to get Porzingis and have gotten worse each year since. We have a few nice pieces to develop due to drafting well, but we have some bad young players getting minutes. I hope KP comes back and looks good. Otherwise this is going to be a painful year without much optimism for next year unless something changes and a couple of players wake up.

    30. kevin5318

      Does anyone (including the Knicks front office) really think someone like Durant is going leave the Warriors to come to NY to play with this team?

      Hope springs eternal I suppose. I could see a lot guys being intrigued with this team if we draft any of the Duke trio.

    31. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      In a black jacket that says Knicks on it in blue lettering with a blue and orange Knicks shirt under t. 6 rows back in 120 but 8 (maybe 9 depending on how you count?) overall.

    32. d-mar

      Knox just kind of floats around the court, contributing nothing on either end.

      Fill in the blank – the one thing Knox does really well is _____.

      (and you can’t answer “be really young”)

    33. Jack Bauer

      “Does anyone (including the Knicks front office) really think someone like Durant is going leave the Warriors to come to NY to play with this team?”

      No one with any grip on reality

    34. KJG

      @51. It’s a gigantic joke. We are being trolled for sure. The guy left okc to go play with a top 3 team in the league. And we have a team where as soon as anyone gets good enough, they’ll go play somewhere else. Kevin Oquinn said Peace and good riddance.

    35. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      the one thing Knox does really well is _____.

      ….shoot virtually every time he gets the ball?

    36. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      @pt

      Are you the two seats right near the steps

      Also I’m sitting 4 rows in front of Steve Mills lol

    37. The Infamous Cdiggy

      Um, Mudiay giveth (dumb foul on a 3-pt shooter) , and Mudiay giveth away (crappy turnover)…

    38. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Why is Dotson hardly playing?

      (never mind 4 PFs)

    39. The Infamous Cdiggy

      I think watching Trier, and seeing what craftiness he’ll develop as his offensive game evolves, excites me greatly.

    40. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Should I tell Steve Mills to trade hardaway to the kings

      Y E S !

    41. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Knox may be our 3rd best player out of this draft.

    42. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Fizdale lineups are good for the tank.

    43. ptmilo

      Bad call frank couldn’t move Spellman in a Congo line

      Coach is not listening to my advice about he Mario-Mudiay-Kanter balsa wall q4 defense strategy

    44. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Did anyone else see Young’s legs flare on that long 2? What the fuck was that?

    45. dtrickey

      Fiz must have been watching the Duke game last night with some of the lineups he is rolling our today

    46. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Coach is not listening to my advice about he Mario-Mudiay-Kanter balsa wall q4 defense strategy

      lmao

      Putting that combo out there makes me question Fizdale’s sanity or intent.

    47. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Hezonja is very talented while being a very bad player.

    48. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Dotson’s “D” has been suspect tonight.

    49. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      If Hardaway wasn’t such a pinhead he’d be a very good offensive player. He got a lot better.

    50. Stratomatic "Is Dotson our best two-way player with Porzingis out?"

      Yes Timmy, good shot selection up 6 with 20 seconds on the shot clock.

      I’d love to know what’s going on his head. Actually I do, but I’m usually medicated when I feel like that.

    51. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      It’s pretty sad that they’re showing a highlight reel of made Hawks FGs at the end of a loss

    52. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      Fun fact Ptmilo drinks Michelob Ultra, at least at Hawks games

    53. alsep73

      Looking forward to more detailed comments from Silky and ptmilo about how our rough ryders looked up close.

      And at least we can beat the Hawks.

    54. nicos

      While Mudiay still sucks he’s working much harder on defense than he did in the past. Last year he just died on every screen and while he still doesn’t do a great job avoiding screens a la Frank he’s generally done a good job hustling to get into the play. He’s had a bunch of deflections/ forced turnovers. And, of course, a few really bad fouls too. Still think he winds up in Europe next year.

    55. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Fun fact Ptmilo drinks Michelob Ultra, at least at Hawks games

      years of credibility undone in a single comment

    56. nicos

      Fun fact Ptmilo drinks Michelob Ultra, at least at Hawks games

      I think that’s the house beer at the arena- they ran an annoying commercial with the annoying Jami Gertz where she was holding two of them.

    57. ptmilo

      Defense #1: wife bought the beers inside without due care

      Distraction/Defense #2: I sat behind Bernard King on a plane to SF few years ago when he was headed to a GSW ceremony congratulating him on the HOF. He humored me for at least two hours told dozens of stories and was incredibly gracious throughout.

    58. Bruno Almeida

      One good news for the tank is that not only are the Grizzlies not tanking at all, but they might actually be good. Jaren Jackson Jr. just had a great game and they beat the Nuggets to improve to 6-4.

    59. Brian Cronin

      The Knicks bottomed out to get Porzingis and have gotten worse each year since.

      The Knicks “bottomed out to get Porzingis” by locking down their most valuable trade asset to a Mega Max extension along with a no trade clause and trading their second most valuable trade asset for Jose Calderon and Samuel Dalembart. In other words, they did not bottom out to get Porzingis, Phil Jackson just misunderstood how shitty the team was and then, when they were 5-35, he then started dealing away players (when they were already 5-35!) and then as soon as he could, he filled the team up with short term veterans and then signed a bunch of long-term free agents and traded for Derrick Rose.

      The Knicks have tried “bottoming out” for one season – this one. And they’re already planning on signing a max free agent as soon as next season!

    60. Knick fan not in NJ who thinks our rookies will lead us to a lousy lottery pick in 2019

      it’s true that for only this season has it been the Knicks stated goal to completely rebuild. But even without trying to totally rebuild, they did somewhat rebuild through the draft anyway, because they were so bad anyway. So it’s not totally unreasonable to think they might be at the right stage to go after free agents next summer. Their timing sucks, however. There is going to be so much money chasing free agents in 2019, that it’s hard to imagine they will get a good deal, and they could easily blow their wad and not actually get anyone very helpful.

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