Knicks Morning News (2015.02.24)

  • [New York Daily News] Raissman: Francesa’s rip of Jackson could be sign from Dolan (Tue, 24 Feb 2015 04:03:03 GMT)

    Mike (Sports Pope) Francesa deposited Phil Jackson under the balcony Monday.

  • [New York Daily News] Phil Jackson alienates two of Knicks brass with one tweet (Tue, 24 Feb 2015 02:09:32 GMT)

    With one tweet, Phil Jackson managed to throw his coach and team under the bus while also violating James Dolan’s sacred media policy.

  • [New York Daily News] Anthony Mason’s son says former Knick ‘getting better’ (Tue, 24 Feb 2015 01:21:05 GMT)

    Former Knick Anthony Mason is improving but in critical condition following multiple surgeries after suffering a massive heart attack.

  • [New York Times] Grizzlies Beat Clippers 90-87 Behind Conley and Green (Tue, 24 Feb 2015 07:25:20 GMT)

    The Memphis Grizzlies are on a roll with Jeff Green.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Nets Defeat Nuggets for Second Road Victory in a Row (Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:05:52 GMT)

    Brook Lopez led seven Nets players in double figures with 19 points, and the Nets beat the Nuggets, 110-82, on Monday night in Denver.

  • [New York Times] Trey Burke, Defense Leads Jazz to 90-81 Win Over Spurs (Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:04:46 GMT)

    Trey Burke scored 23 points and the Utah Jazz beat San Antonio 90-81 on Monday night, extending the Spurs’ losing streak to three since returning from the All-Star break.

  • [New York Times] Lopez Scores 19 Points, Nets Beat Nuggets 110-82 (Tue, 24 Feb 2015 04:55:20 GMT)

    Brook Lopez led seven Nets players in double figures with 19 points, and Brooklyn won its second consecutive road game by beating the Denver Nuggets 110-82 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Thomas Helps Celtics Beat Suns in Return to Phoenix (Tue, 24 Feb 2015 04:49:30 GMT)

    Avery Bradley scored 23 points, Isaiah Thomas burned his former team with eight critical points in the last two minutes, and the Boston Celtics held off the Phoenix Suns 115-110 Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Pelicans Erase 18-Point Hole, Beat Raptors 100-97 (Tue, 24 Feb 2015 04:16:22 GMT)

    Alexis Ajinca capped a 16-point performance with a go-ahead layup in the final minute, and the New Orleans Pelicans erased an 18-point deficit en route to a 100-97 victory over the Toronto Raptors on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Harden’s Triple-Double Helps Rockets Over Wolves, 113-102 (Tue, 24 Feb 2015 03:55:22 GMT)

    James Harden had 31 points, 11 rebounds and 10 assists for his second triple-double this season, leading the Houston Rockets to a 113-102 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Bulls Hit Boards to Beat Bucks 87-71 (Tue, 24 Feb 2015 03:37:28 GMT)

    Tony Snell scored 20 points, Nikola Mirotic had 16 points and a career-high 14 rebounds, and the surging Chicago Bulls pounded the Milwaukee Bucks on the boards on their way to an 87-71 victory on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Deng Scores 29, Heat Click in 2nd Half to Beat 76ers 119-108 (Tue, 24 Feb 2015 03:13:30 GMT)

    Luol Deng made 11 of 14 shots and scored 29 points, Goran Dragic added 23 points and 10 assists, and the Miami Heat set a season high for scoring in a 119-108 victory over the Philadelphia 76ers on Monday night.

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    72 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.02.24)”

    1. Doesn’t the NY media have more important things to worry about than two stupid tweets that mean nothing in terms of the long term future of the NY Knicks?

      Seriously, I’m starting to hate some members of the NY media. It’s no wonder the team can’t ever get anywhere. We have journalists (and I use that term very loosely) and major sports radio personalities who essentially know less about basketball than Phil Jackson has already forgotten constantly looking for ways to stir the pot, create controversy, and more or less undermine the organization over trivial things while at other times ignoring or not even understanding things that really do matter. We don’t need this kind of BS.

      Fans deserve an honest LONG TERM appraisal various trades and moves. We need COMPETENT people at the major newspapers and on radio that are capable of thinking 3 years out instead just to the next week. We don’t need incompetents in the media causing problems and distractions where none exist. A few of these guys are making me reconsider my position on water boarding.

    2. Seriously what’s not clear about what PJ tweeted? He ripped into his players like he did so many times before. It’s a motivation technique that worked even with his stars like Pippen and Grant and Rodman and Shaq and Kobe. He’s trying to get them to show him something, which currently they obviously don’t. Good for him.

    3. Demeaning young, inexperienced players on a team designed to lose for getting beat by one of the most talented teams in recent memory led by one of the best players of all time is supposed to motivate them?

      I’m hoping Phil’s tweets had a different intended meaning.

      And for the irony – it’s okay for Phil to criticize others, but it’s not okay to criticize Phil.

    4. It’s almost like there’s a difference between communication mediums in 1991 and 2015. I never thought I’d say that, but it’s probably true.

    5. I’m with hoolahoop on this one. Trying to motivate your team through the press is a risky strategy, but one Phil has employed successfully before. But we do not have a talented team that is significantly under-performing. We have a spectacularly untalented team that is performing at about the expected level currently (I do think it’s fair to say that this team was underperforming its talent earlier in the year to some extent, but the departures of Shump, JR, Amare Pablo and Melo have left the team completely barren). This team doesn’t need motivation. It needs good players. I really hope Phil is focusing most of his mental energy trying to solve the latter and not the former.

      Also this

      Seriously, I’m starting to hate some members of the NY media. It’s no wonder the team can’t ever get anywhere.

      is a total non-sequitur. Isola and Berman being dumb has nothing to do with the Knicks being bad.

    6. I’ve been out of the loop for a while, so sorry if this has already been covered, but I was under the impression that Phil’s tweets were directed at JR, his self-admitted lack of commitment to basketball while in NYC, and his showboating when returning to MSG on a team where he’s a 5th banana (which is what he should be) — ie. the tweets were not directed at anyone on our team.

    7. After my fiftieth read, I think Phil’s tweets were a cryptic message expressing his annoyance at what appeared to be JR being a better player than he really is in a game that was stacked in the Cavs favor. . . and that he didn’t have the commitment to his craft, the team, or the the triangle when he was with the knicks.

    8. http://deadspin.com/andrew-wiggins-shows-james-harden-what-real-defense-loo-1687698587

      Y’all see this? If Wolves bloggers are anything like Knickerblogger readers, there will be calls for Wiggins to be considered the best on-ball defender in the league and for him to receive a $12M/yr contract for this sequence alone.

      I was more impressed with Harden’s dribbling during that sequence. I didn’t realize he had that good a handle.
      With Rubio back, the Wolves are no longer a threat to finish lower than the knicks.

    9. It’s fair to criticize Jackson, it is fair to criticize those who criticize Jackson, it is fair to criticize those who criticize those who criticize Jackson, …

      Just, sometimes, it becomes a bit repetitive.

      My opinion is let the guy do what he wants with the team for 3 years at least. It’s hard to make a splash in only half a year. And although he hasn’t won any trades, maybe his goals were not winning trades, but having certain team philosophy. And i think he is doing good in that regard. We’ll see if that translates into wins.

    10. Whatever Phil was trying to say, it was a horribly written piece of prose that was broadcast to millions and millions of readers. He should have spent a little more time it, but I guess that’s why there’s the old adage “don’t drink and tweet”.

    11. Wiggins was supposed to be a laughably bad draft pick, but he has been playing quite well the last couple of months– he has a .541 TS% since January 1 and is a pretty nice looking defensive player. Not too shabby for a guy who just turned 20 yesterday.

    12. Wiggins was supposed to be a laughably bad draft pick, but he has been playing quite well the last couple of months– he has a .541 TS% since January 1 and is a pretty nice looking defensive player. Not too shabby for a guy who just turned 20 yesterday.

      Yea the kid has looked good. Its like the reverse rookie wall

    13. Hard to say whether or not the Cavs would be better with Wiggins rather than Love at this point.

    14. “Wiggins was supposed to be a laughably bad draft pick, but he has been playing quite well the last couple of months”
      There are many on this site who love to point out when they are right about something (and I, for one, am really looking forward to the “I told you so about Kyle Anderson” posts in about three years…) but, for some strange reason, I’m not so sure that we will see many “Boy was I wrong about Andrew Wiggins” posts three years from now.

    15. …or Russel Westbrook who was characterized on this site as the guy who was screwing everything up for KD and the Thunder.

    16. Hard to say whether or not the Cavs would be better with Wiggins rather than Love at this point.

      Wiggins has been pretty bad, so no, it’s easy to say that the Cavs would be better with Love instead of Wiggins right now. In 2 or 3 years, though? Considering the Cavs might not even have Love, that’s going to be a very interesting question.

    17. I didn’t think Wiggins was a terrible pick at #1. I probably would have traded the #1 for a top-10 pick in this year’s draft and two future firsts (unprotected). My position was that not pulling the trigger on the Love deal over Wiggins was foolish, and despite his strong play over the last two months, it still would have been foolish then. Love, despite having a poor year, is still an excellent NBA player. Wiggins still has to show that he can go from 54 TS% to 60 TS% to live up to his #1 slot.

      He’s still 90% promise, 10% results.

      (And I wasn’t right about Anderson yet. I don’t care how good at rebounding and stealing he is; if he doesn’t figure out how to score, he’s going to be a bust, even at #30.)

    18. If Hinkie wanted to prove he’s a badass beyond all before him, he should’ve traded a 2nd round pick or two for Bargnani. Would’ve gotten them above the salary floor (as an aside), but would’ve decreased our tanking success and clinched theirs. Missed opportunity.

    19. I didn’t think Wiggins was a terrible pick at #1. I probably would have traded the #1 for a top-10 pick in this year’s draft and two future firsts (unprotected). My position was that not pulling the trigger on the Love deal over Wiggins was foolish, and despite his strong play over the last two months, it still would have been foolish then. Love, despite having a poor year, is still an excellent NBA player. Wiggins still has to show that he can go from 54 TS% to 60 TS% to live up to his #1 slot.

      All good points. He just turned 20 yesterday and shows signs. I think the thing about the deal is that everyone envisioned Wiggins as Lebrons Pippen. The Varajeao injury forced the Mozgov trade and not having Wiggins forced the JR trade. So idk the team is completely different then it would have been with Wiggins

    20. Right, but the Cavs still would have needed to trade for a decent SF/SG, because on balance Wiggins has been a highly unproductive NBA player. Of late, as JK points out, he’s been pretty good for a rookie, which is very promising for a player as young as Wiggins. But Cleveland needs to win in the short term. If this improvement is real, best the Wolves can reasonably hope for is that Wiggins is a terrific player in 2 more years.

    21. Love is a better fit than Wiggins for Cleveland. He spaces the floor and knocks down 3’s. It’s the prototypical NBA set – a couple of penetrators that can attack the rim, shoot off the dribble, or pass to a couple of sharp shooters camped out beyond the arc… and a defensive behemoth at the 5 spot.
      The trend is to stack a roster with guys that can hit 3’s at a high percentage, regardless of their other roles. Kevin Love.

    22. I think the thing about the deal is that everyone envisioned Wiggins as Lebrons Pippen.

      Kyrie is Lebron’s Pippen. Cleveland has a better balance of utilities with Love. Plus, Cleveland is in “win now” mode.
      Love is fitting in better lately. If Cleveland stumbles and Love doesn’t feel comfortable by the end of the season, he’ll probably leave.

    23. “And I wasn’t right about Anderson yet.”
      Now why in the world would you assume that I was referring to you? I do love the “yet” qualifier.
      By the way, I, too wanted the Knicks to take a flier on Whiteside a few years ago. Feel free to point out that I defended the Bargnani trade.

    24. I’m late to the game on this issue but I agree with….

      @1 – “I’m starting to hate some members of the NY media”

      They won’t admit to it, but the media IS part of the cause of our woes. How many dumbass moves have NY team owners made because they thought the fans would like them? Too many. Most members of the media are parasites. They cannot exist if they don’t feed off of the athletes they cover; and it doesn’t matter what harm it causes.

      @10 – I was more impressed with Harden’s dribbling during that sequence. I didn’t realize he had that good a handle. With Rubio back, the Wolves are no longer a threat to finish lower than the knicks

      Both are good points. That was a pretty amazing move on an otherwise good defender. And speaking of Rubio, he’s another one that got away. We just missed out on both him and Curry.

      I disagree with…

      @3 – Demeaning young, inexperienced players on a team designed to lose for getting beat by one of the most talented teams in recent memory led by one of the best players of all time is supposed to motivate them?

      I don’t think he was focused just on the kids (and I’m pretty sure he wasn’t taking about JR either). It’s the Calderons, Bargnani’s, Cole, Acy, Jason Smith and even now Hardaway, who should be playing their asses off. As a person who has watched virtually every game for the past I-don’t-know-how-long, I can no longer stomach watching this team. They are worse than awful and no amount of criticism is too much. I’m glad that PJ tweeted. For some of these players this will be their last chance to play in the NBA. They better wake up.

    25. I think he was taking a shot at the cavs, but it really doesn’t matter. This team is losing a lot of games no matter what anyone tweets. The losses are inescapable and our tank is impregnable.

    26. Love is knocking down 3s now? I thought he was having a poor season.

      Also, it’s not like the Cavs could not have used some of their Love pkg on someone else that could help them.

    27. Yes,

      He’s shooting 5 3s per game at .342. That’s at least average.

      And he’s not having a poor season. His numbers are a little below his career mark but he’s basically just shooting less due Lebron and Kyrie.

      Its called diminishing return.

    28. Jowles then:

      Wiggins might be a bad value at #2 because he statistically rated more like a #30 pick (albeit one with a nice PPG figure on a high-profile team).

      Jowles now:

      I didn’t think Wiggins was a terrible pick at #1.

      Be careful you don’t trip backpedaling that fast.

    29. I agree with Donnie, those PJ tweets reek of alcohol. Whatever they meant, they were not appropriate and below the dignity of an elite GM. I’d excuse it from a goofy owner, but not a world-class GM who is committed to “changing the culture of the team.” He should stick his phone you know where until the time to wheel and deal begins.

    30. is a total non-sequitur. Isola and Berman being dumb has nothing to do with the Knicks being bad.

      The Knicks are bad because the players are bad as a group, but it’s clear that Jackson tore the team down to start rebuilding it next year. It’s also clear he’d like THESE players to give 100% so he can evaluate whether any are worthy of being here next year. It appears he’s disappointed with the effort.

      Do we really need these nitwits in the media stirring the pot trying to put pressure on Jackson by creating controversy and distractions over his tweets.

      How is he throwing Fisher under the bus?

      How are these reports some hidden message from Dolan that he’s pissed off?

      How does anyone with half a brain not understand that we are rebuilding?

      This is why the management always feels pressured to think short term. The NY media is so relentlessly stupid and incompetent it creates an environment where management feels pressured to move faster and please fans because the less informed fans get worked up, pissed off, and impatient because of the media.

    31. Hypothetically speaking, would anyone here consider trading this year’s #1 for Embiid? Assume for the moment that Embiid’s foot is no longer a concern. Another way of looking at it: would Embiid be the #1 pick in this draft?

      Jowles, you were high on Embiid, right?

      In a theoretical world in which Embiid had 0 health concerns I would do this I think. I think he’s a nice melding of the two bigs in this year’s draft. More skilled than Towns, but more athletic/higher ceiling(particularly defensively) than Okafor. But there’s no chance I would do it now even if my doctors told me he was fine. Once the health issues start for a big you’re always going to have to be wary moving forward. And he missed a year of development time. So I would say that healthy Okafor was the best prospect in the last two drafts, but no way would I give up my pick in this year’s draft for him now, no matter what the Docs say.

    32. For this game, are we supposed to assume that his broken back is also never going to be a problem again?

    33. I agree with Donnie, those PJ tweets reek of alcohol.

      Phil strikes me more of a pot smoker.

      On a similar subject, one thing Phil got going for him, he likes the Dead.

    34. OK, what if we wind up with the #4 pick and Towns, Okafor and Russell are gone?

      I still believe that Stanley Johnson would be the best player available in that scenario. I would be almost certain that we would draft Mudiay though in that situation.

      The one guy who shows up as a top 5 pick in a lot of mocks that I want absolutely no part of is Kristaps Porzingis.

    35. Fine. Wiggins was a terrible pick at #1. Still, he was valued enough that he ended up being the prized piece in a trade that sent an All-NBA player to a team with LeBron on it.

      I certainly wouldn’t have been happy if the Knicks drafted him and kept him.

      Again, I think Kyle Anderson was the best pick, and among the best players, in the draft, but I sure wouldn’t have wanted the Knicks to take him at #1.

    36. Fine. Wiggins was a terrible pick at #1. Still, he was so terrible that he ended up being the prized piece in a trade that sent an All-NBA player to a team with LeBron on it.

      What does that mean?

    37. On a different note, what do folks think of Khris Middleton? We need 3 and D and he might be cheaper than Wes Matthews.

      I know people have mixed feelings about real plus/minus, but it’s got to mean something that he’s number 6 in the league.

    38. Jowles doubling down on Kyle Anderson!! I have a confession — the Banished Seer was so high on Anderson that I was really hoping that he would slip to the Knicks — and really pissed that such a smart organization picked him. So, truth be told, this time, I won’the mind the gloating in three years…

    39. Watching okc on nbatv… Waiters is suck a knick it’s scary . I cringe at the thought of this man on our team. If you watch just him on offense , his hands are in shooting position calling for the ball on every play… Can’t Believe presti thought this was a good idea.

    40. And Garson, Zeke would have traded 2 our 2019 and 2021 firsts for Waiters and then given him a max extension.

    41. I’m not sure how anyone can conclude that Wiggins was a terrible pick at #1 so early in his career, especially when his stats have already been generally improving.

      The Cavs were in a position where they had to satisfy James and go for more short term value even “IF” it meant giving up more long term value. But at this stage, we don’t know if Wiggins will turn out to be a better value than Love long term.

      I think the Cavs did what they had to do, but I think Wiggins could wind up being an elite player before it’s all over. So you could argue both teams made out fine because they are on different timetables.

    42. Derrick Rose out with a meniscus tear. Yikes.

      I think it’s pretty clear at this point that he’s never going to be the player he might have been and will probably have a very short career. It’s a shame because besides having a world of potential, he seems like a very likable guy.

    43. What does that mean?

      It means that you can think he was a bad pick at #1 because of his playing potential, but also think he was a good pick if his perceived future value is so high that he could net you a top-tier NBA player.

      If you draft Wiggins and trade him (and other stuff, like Anthony Bennett, who was ghastly last year) for Love before he even runs a play in the NBA, the pick was a good pick. If you draft Wiggins and you trade him in a year and a half for a #20 pick and a future second, he is a bad pick.

      Carmelo Anthony might not have been a terrible signing if he hadn’t been granted the NTC because his perceived value is high enough to make him tradable. From a production standpoint, $25M a year for Carmelo Anthony is bad as hell: not Kobe-bad, but bad. From a trade-asset standpoint, he could have been okay.

    44. I’m not sure how anyone can conclude that Wiggins was a terrible pick at #1 so early in his career, especially when his stats have already been generally improving.

      What I mean is that the available metrics said that he was not an elite college player. Might he be the Next Big Thing? Sure. It’s too early to tell. But from a risk perspective — or at least mine — he wasn’t a great choice.

      I’m not sure that we should try to break his rookie season into parts. Sure, he seems to be shooting better, but it’s hard to set endpoints within a rookie season. There are lots of players who show incremental growth after their rookie season, but far fewer who show exponential growth like LeBron and Durant.

    45. What I mean is that the available metrics said that he was not an elite college player.

      I understand what you are saying, but I suspect the NBA in general has some very good insights into projecting the upside of players that makes these kinds of selections sensible, albeit very risky. If it were possible, a smart thing to do would be to draft 5 of them (diversification). Then if you get 2 superstars and 3 busts the net of it would work out fine (maybe that’s the thinking of the 76ers). The real problem is that you usually only get 1 pick and if he turns into the bust, you are screwed and perhaps unemployed.

    46. Thibs would burn Jose into the ground in ten games. Sadly, the equation Rose = shorter Penny Hardaway looks more and more apt every day passing. Let’s prepare for a Cleveland-OKC Finals series.

    47. I understand what you are saying, but I suspect the NBA in general has some very good insights into projecting the upside of players that makes these kinds of selections sensible, albeit very risky.

      No.

      If it were possible, a smart thing to do would be to draft 5 of them (diversification). Then if you get 2 superstars and 3 busts the net of it would work out fine (maybe that’s the thinking of the 76ers). The real problem is that you usually only get 1 pick and if he turns into the bust, you are screwed and perhaps unemployed.

      Yes.

    48. I understand what you are saying, but I suspect the NBA in general has some very good insights into projecting the upside of players that makes these kinds of selections sensible, albeit very risky.

      No.

      I don’t know, i have just taken a look at some model at Wages of Wins:

      http://wagesofwins.com/2012/06/25/2012-nba-draft-extravaganza-the-rankings/

      And maybe the do better than your average GM, sure it ranks some hidden gems high; but they also miss quite a bit. I think it is clear that they are missing info on the prospects.

      Doing a bit of ‘eye test’, i’d say they tend to fail more with younger players. So missing on Wiggins who had only one year of NCAA could be a possibility. I am not sure if there are better models out there. Jowles, i always asume you take them from WoW, ;-)

    49. Any method of scouting is going to have more trouble with younger players because there’s just less information

    50. Jowles I’m surprised you haven’t changed your name to “I staked my reputation on the Warriors being idiots for trading Klay for Love because I put all my eggs in the production basket and ignored the possibility that team dynamics are vital and often difficult to measure” ;)

      How’s Portland treating you? I hope you’re taking it easy on LaMarcus Aldridge!

      More importantly, I continue to have concerns about Okafor. Read this report on him today from John Gasaway on ESPN, in a ranking of CBB’s best players:

      My career coaching record is 0-0, so take this with a grain of salt: I would double-team Okafor on every single touch. We’re talking about a player who has recorded a grand total of three assists over the last 266 offensive possessions in which he’s been on the floor. And sure, go ahead and speculate about his “hockey” assists — that’s kind of my point. Make Okafor make the hockey assist. That’s demonstrably more difficult for him to do than it is for him to make a 2 against a single defender.

      Don’t all the signs point to a large amount of this guys success being attributable to him being physically dominant over his opponents? That is not likely to be the case in the NBA. He doesn’t strike me as having Anthony Davis level physical dominance. He’s just physically dominant for college. The fact that he can’t (or won’t) pass, and that seemingly everyone criticizes his defensive effort really gives me red flags.

      I sincerely hope a better prospect than Okafor emerges for us to select in this draft, because he doesn’t strike me as a player who, if taken first overall, will change your franchise much. While there games are not similar, he strikes me more as a Michael Beasley guy in terms of carrying over his production into the NBA.

    51. If the best NBA scouts selected 100 players 18 or under (over a period of years) that they thought had superstar upside, there is no doubt in my mind that they would select WAY more eventual superstars than someone selecting players with above average college stats at the age of 22.

      The difference is that the later group would contain many more solid rotation players and maybe even some all stars and the former many more busts. When you go young, you are going for greater risk and greater reward.

    52. Don’t all the signs point to a large amount of this guys success being attributable to him being physically dominant over his opponents? That is not likely to be the case in the NBA. He doesn’t strike me as having Anthony Davis level physical dominance. He’s just physically dominant for college. The fact that he can’t (or won’t) pass, and that seemingly everyone criticizes his defensive effort really gives me red flags.

      …. he doesn’t strike me as a player who, if taken first overall, will change your franchise much.

      Great points. It seems that a lot of people here expect a top five pick paired with a FA to catapult the knicks into elite status . That’s Not the case. Most dominant college players picked in the first round, even lottery picks, become average NBA starters.

    53. Wiggins was supposed to be a laughably bad draft pick, but he has been playing quite well the last couple of months

      The point was never that it was foolish to draft him at 1. The point was always that he was never a sufficient return for Kevin Love, and that trade was a slam dunk from the Cavs perspective. His status as a #1 draft pick inflated his value.

      for some strange reason, I’m not so sure that we will see many “Boy was I wrong about Andrew Wiggins” posts three years from now.

      I like how a nice little mid-season spurt in his rookie year sealed the deal on Wiggins being an all-time great. Frankly, I think Jowles reference to Shumpert is spot on. Wiggins always seemed destined to be a suped-up version of Iman (much better around the rim, obviously), in my humble opinion (which I still stand by). He was never someone you would hesistate to trade for Kevin Love.

    54. “@71
      knicks can’t trade their pick.”
      No, but they could reach an agreement with the 76ers to draft whomever the 76ers want and then trade him for Embiid 30 seconds after the pick is made.

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