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30 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2025.08.15)”
Some of the daily links are suggesting tge Knicks might make a trade to free up a roster spot do they can sign both Shamet and Simmons. That doesn’t seem very feasible to me.
I’m still alive, people. LOL. Just with little to no time. 😛
And hey, who’s counting?
https://x.com/nyknicks/status/1956153227864629440
Maybe we should give this guy a training camp deal, after all he was a KB fave for being picked #1 overall.
Kill-insanity? 🤭😂
As mentioned in the prior thread, I wonder if Leon/Brock are hoping to find a trade to free up enough cap space to sign two vets. The most likely candidate would be Kolek, right? But wouldn’t it make sense to see how Kolek looked in preseason before prematurely trading him? Or trade Dadiet, which I believe would open up enough space for 3 vet’s mimimum deals if they wait a bit to fill those spots?
But it seems like they can sign a vet now and still do that at some point.
It has worked out that Aller has created cap space in creative ways in the past (the Bridges and KAT deals took a bunch of creativity, which I believe included getting Dadiet to take less than he was eligible for.) Kolek’s deal was larger than he deserved for cap purposes.
In fact, would be a bit surprised is something creative didn’t happen. But I hope they aren’t commmitted to being creative just because it’s cool while the best fits come off the board.
Sold!
Z-man, I just mentioned this possibility in the first post above. The reason it doesn’t seem realistic to me is that I doubt we can trade Kolek or Dadiet for anything. So you’d basically have to give them away (like Kolek for a late second round pick) and even then, I’m not sure another team would bother to do this. Or we could trade McBride, but trading him would mean replacing him with Shamet, which would make us a little worse. So we’d have to get something good for McBride, like a first round pick. But even if we could do that, the team’s not in a position where they would want to get worse to get a future pick. I suppose r there are more complicated deals out there that make us better and also free up a roster spot, but it still seems unlikely.
Kill-inanity
I don’t think a trade is going to happen, but I’m sure Dadier has value, and despite Kolek’s summer league, they could probably get a second for him.
we need point guards doubt we trade kolek if not for any other reason than that he happens to play a position of need for us
If we were going to trade Kolek, maybe we could trade him to the Kings. They could use another point guard and could take Kolek without going into the tax, but they are over the cap so we’d have to find a third team to take salary off their hands. Then the Kings would have to give something to them and something to us (like a pick or two) and I’m not sure tgat would be worth it for them.
At least Kolek’s 4th year is a team option, but yeah, that signing looks like a head scratcher for now.
I also had that Killian idea, but Brogdon is probably the better option for a team that needs vets with playoff experience.
What’s the KB verdict on an actual former #1 pick, Markelle Fultz? Hasn’t he shown some growth?
ess, I agree on Brogdan but it seems like he’s holding out for a good team where he actually will be guaranteed minutes. But if he would be good with being our #10 “vet” guy, knowing that the sophs were going to get spotted in ahead of him to get them experience, he’d be #1 on my list.
as surprised as i am to see myself typing this i think fultz over brogdon at this point fultz is about five years younger and has similar numbers to brogdon and probably less injury risk as well not sure which of fultz or brogdon needs a new team more than the other one as always worried that we dont have minutes for these veterans and they may not appreciate being our injury insurance
but for sure either one of them over killian hayes blecccch
Salary dump Kolek to sign Simmons and Shamet is about the only move that makes sense to me, maybe add a 2nd swap or cash to the deal if it’s really difficult. That or there’s something big cooking that we don’t know about.
for what its worth the athletic has kat listed as #6 of the leagues top big men between bam and gobert and has mitch listed at #26 between yang hansen—wtf!—and derrick lively wondering if their inclusion of yang hansen kind of invalidates the whole list for me regardless of the fact that he showed out in summer league
by the way following chinese naming convention he is actually HanSen Yang which makes a lot more sense
starters: brunson (34) bridges (32) anunoby (32) towns (33) robinson (24)
dynamic bench: hart (23) mcbride (21) clarkson (16) yabusele (15) hukporti (6) dadiet (4)
the rest: mccullar kolek beauchamp diawara
pg: brunson 34, mcbride 14
sg: bridges 22, clarkson 16, mcbride 7, dadiet 3
sf: anunoby 23, hart 14, bridges 10, dadiet 1
pf: towns 17, yabusele 13, hart 9, anunoby 9
c: robinson 24, towns 16, hukporti 6, yabusele 2
have two of anunoby robinson mcbride on the floor at all times except for of course blowout minutes thats where mccullar kolek beauchamp diawara come into play
No, his name actually is Yang Hansen. His family name precedes his given name, which is the correct order in China.
i understand that didnt state it as well as i would have liked clarifying for those who might not know that surname is stated first in china
Why are you including Beauchamp when there’s zero chance that he will be on the roster? And McCuller would be at best a two-way?
Fultz was the first pick in 2017. We picked Frank at 8. Rather have Fultz today but pretty close call, so obviously a no.
In 2018 Cleveland picked Sexton at 8, we picked Knox at 9. In 2020 Cleveland picked Killian at 7, we picked Obi at 8. Neither stellar use of the draft (even ignoring that Shai went at 11 and Donovan went at 14 in those 2 drafts).
Fast forward (perhaps a few years longer than necessary but not if the timeline for developing high first round picks into useful or star players is included) and we are 1/2 favourites to be the East team in the NBA finals. I don’t condone Leon’s distain for draft picks, but this does give me pause for thought.
“I also had that Killian idea, but Brogdon is probably the better option for a team that needs vets with playoff experience.”
I assumed the Knicks not signing Brogdon was Brogdon’s choice. Would the Knicks actually pass on him if available?? I wouldn’t expect him to be in 2023 form, but to me it seems like a no-brainer for the Knicks anyway.
Any two of Brogdon, Simmons, and Shamet added to our nine current projected rotation players would make us a very likely unless you move up I hate that 60 win team in my opinion.
i dont agree that either of beauchamp or mccullar have 0 percent chance of being on active roster i do agree its unlikely depends what we do with diawara etc anyway what i listed is obviously subject to change as we know more closer to the season
McCullough and Beauchamp are both vets while Diawara is a rookie, they are in two totally different buckets, so they have no bearing on one another. What you’re saying right now is that we are possibly going to offer our last remaining vets minimum spot to either Beauchamp or McCullar because the only other way to retain them would be on a two-way. As usual, your takes a mile wide and an inch deep.
I’m guessing he has a better shot at getting minutes elsewhere. Clarkson and Deuce should have the backup guard minutes locked up.
The recent injury history on Brogdon scares me.
Per my previous comment, in case it looks like cherry picking….in 2017 Cleveland did not have a draft pick, in 2019 we picked RJ at 3, Cleveland picked Garland at 5…
“The recent injury history on Brogdon scares me.”
This. Given this slot is in large measure rotation player injury insurance, filling it with a highly injury-prone vet, either Simmons or Brogdon, seems counterintuitive.
more from athletic:
Eastern Conference finals preview? Cleveland Cavaliers at New York Knicks, 7 p.m. Oct. 22, ESPN
Big test No. 2: Orlando Magic at New York Knicks, 7 p.m. Nov. 12, ESPN
Guessing on availability: Philadelphia 76ers at New York Knicks, 7 p.m. Dec. 19, Prime Video
Eastern Conference showdown: New York Knicks at Detroit Pistons, 7 p.m. Jan. 5, NBC
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