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39 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2024.10.22)”
I’m kind of afraid to make a comment, because I assume Brian is going to put up a separate predictions thread soon
But just in case things it until the game thread: LET’S FUCKING GO KNICKS
I’m wondering: can Dadiet win over Thibs the way that RJ Barrett did?
54
watched some side-by-sides of mikal’s jumper. watching live in the preseason didn’t seem like a massive change, but i think i was wrong — it’s pretty significant. the higher release means he’s bringing it back behind his head by several inches vs even last season and it looks like it’s throwing his balance and timing off quite a bit.
Some journalist with access to tracking data I saw said his release point is 4 inches higher than last season
It strictly depends on how acceptable his defense is. He clearly can shoot the ball, and cut and run plays with alacrity. He has the measurables and is just barely 19. Thibs has shown he will give rookies minutes right off the bat (IQ) not based on draft position, but whether they bring enough net value to the floor.
This is sort of a bad match up for him to defend vs the Celtics wings, though…. it would be funny if they put him on Horford and dared Tatum to bomb away from 26 feet….
Not to get all Pagsy, but I’m starting to worry that the upgrade from Donte to Mikal wasn’t worth five 1sts…
Right Bob, but don’t folks here think that RJ was vastly overrated as a defender?
I go with 54 wins.
Can we let the guy play an actual game before panic sets in? He does have a pretty large sample size at making them…
A question to the heavier gamblers here, are you into Polymarket?
Tommy Beer:
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Jalen Brunson will the Knicks starting point guard tonight and Tom Thibodeau is NY’s head coach.
It is the first time this century that New York has had the same starting opening-night PG and head coach in three consecutive seasons.
The last Knicks PG/coach combo to achieve this feat was Charlie Ward and Jeff Van Gundy.
Oh, totally agree. Thibs had no choice other than to play him in year 2. His other choices were Iggy, Theo Pinson or Austin Rivers … OMG.
A bit of a different roster today.
OMG, I glanced at the Guardian article linked to above. They predict us to beat the Celtics in the conference finals and then beat OKC for the league championship. Our Karma just isn’t that good.
As a horse, blackjack and poker bettor of some significance, I look at Polymarket as any other marketplace. It is prone to manipulation and the vagaries of the public’s sentiment at a particular moment.
To quote the great H.L.Mencken…”Nobody ever went broke betting against the intelligence of the American public!”
Are we talking about this:
https://polymarket.com/elections
As I understand it, a bunch of conservative millionaires dumped a bunch of money in betting markets for Trump, to make it appear he’s winning the race. Similar to how conservative using polling to attempt to skew the appearance that the race is more slanted than it is.
Or is this actually NBA/Knicks related?
I’m guessing it was this:
https://polymarket.com/event/nba-champion-2024-2025/will-the-new-york-knicks-win-the-2025-nba-finals?tid=1729604510862
Knicks with a 10% odds to win the chip, 3rd best in the league.
I’m going with 50 wins because I think we’ll play .500 ball for the first roughly 20 games before we find our groove. BUT:
– I predict a top-3 offense
– two +5 BPM players (JB and KAT)
– top-3 team in attempted threes
– conference finals appearance
I am hardly a heavy gambler, but I have made some money on the political betting markets because they have a slight-but-real conservative skew given the demographics of people who bet generally. I am not inviting any political discussion, it is just straightforwardly true that they overrate conservative candidates (particularly Trump) compared to purely empirical models.
Thanks Bob and TNFH and Mike.
Yes, about this one. I’m with you guys in thinking the market is skewed towards Trump because the conservatives are dumping money on him, and now Harris is at 36.3%, which seems like a great bet given that the polls, through 538, are at 50/50.
Seriously… conservatives use polling to skew appearances? Have you looked at the accuracy of the polling wrt Trump in the 2016 and 2020 election cycles? Facts are damn nasty thing:
2020 polling overstated Biden’s final result by an average of >4%
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/trump-vs-biden
https://atlasintel.org/media/atlasintel-is-confirmed-as-the-most-accurate-pollster-of-the-2020-presidential-election
we need a wins prediction thread ASAP before this gets out of hand.
I was watching an interview w Mark Cuban and he said Americans are prohibited from betting the presidential race on polymarket. So it’s not domestic money driving the odds.
This is one of the many things Cuban is wrong about. You can bet on Polymarkets, just like betting with offshore gambling sites.
Get a VPN, crypto wallet and USDC and off you go.
Much of the action IS from overseas….
Seriously, if Thibs could play RJ a whopping amount of minutes given how bad everybody here thought he was on both ends based on his stats, would it be possible that Thibs might feel the same way about Dadiet in a smaller bench role? I’ve always felt that the Thibs doesn’t play rookies thing was misleading. In fact, I’m expecting him to play all 3 (not including McCullar) in non-garbage time minutes at some point, maybe sooner than later.
I can hear Cronin pecking away in the KB HQ. Sure the prediction thread will be up soon….
Given the microscopic amount of people who pay attention to betting markets on the Presidential race, who would these supposed millionaires be trying to influence? It seems more likely it’s people looking at how close the polls are now and how much Trump vote was underestimated in the past.
Which I think is kind of dumb given the obvious political realignment going on. I don’t think there’s any way to predict what’s going to happen.
538 gives the slightest of edges to Trump right now.
Lots of millionaires are stupid but they usually won’t throw away money, it’s why they’re still millionaires.
Get out and vote. Get your friends to vote.
An alternative explanation for Trump’s better odds in betting markets than polls is that polls assume an honest election, while betting markets are able to price in the fact that he only needs to get within stealing distance to win. If his cronies in one or two swing states won by Harris prevent certification so that neither gets 270, the election goes to the house with each state getting one vite, guaranteeing a Trump presidency. Most roads lead to four more years of the Grifter King.
I know, I know. My takes on the Knicks are downright sunny compared to my takes on US politics.
Most of the better election forecasters see this race as something between 52-55 percent likelihood of a Trump win. The betting markets see him more in the 58-63 percent zone. There are a few things driving that: culturally, liberals are neurotic and see the sky as constantly falling, while conservatives are, uh, less so. Going hand in hand with that, the Harris campaign is intentionally playing up on that neurotic mindset both in their fundraising materials and their overall rhetoric: this is close and we need you to donate! The Trump campaign on the other hand is already running the victory lap.
I’m a quant by nature, so I’ll go with the raw numbers. Trump should be considered a slight favorite, but a 45% chance of winning is still a pretty significant chance.
The NBA odds in the polymarket link seem out of whack. Cleveland is underrated and Miami and the Lakers are overrated. I don’t have much faith in the Suns or the Bucks either, but that’s just me. I can see how some would think those odds for those two teams are fair.
Prediction thread quickly before I get lectured what a libtard I am for not supporting a convicted rapist tax cheat grifter fraud who’s openly advocated for a dictatorship and imprisoning his enemies
Working on a full EC standings list, and it isn’t great for the Knicks
I think there’s lots of reasons to discount the odds on political prediction markets. Those markets are almost definitely less sharp than, say, Vegas lines for sports (this is not to say that I’m sharp enough to make money off prediction markets, though I will say that I am sharp enough–so far–to have made a tidy sum sports gambling.) That’s for various reasons, but one reason is just that they’re small, illiquid markets with fairly wide bid-ask spreads, all of which make price discovery more difficult.
Here’s a great article on the various problems with non-sports prediction markets:
https://worksinprogress.co/issue/why-prediction-markets-arent-popular/#:~:text=So%20while%20prediction%20markets'%20probabilities,information%20aggregation%2C%20let%20alone%20decisive.
Also, here’s my sports prediction:
Knicks win 57
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Joel Embiid and Paul George are both out for tomorrows game vs Milwaukee, team says
Why couldn’t we have opened with the Sixers and the Bucks opened with the Celtics? Sixers are in our in season tournament group so it would have been a nice win.
You guys have depressed me so much with this thread of doom that I’ll go with 48 wins. Fuck you.
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