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SNY: Knicks’ Mitchell Robinson ruled out for Sunday’s game vs. Heat

From Robert Sanchez:

The Knicks will once again be without center Mitchell Robinson on Sunday.

New York ruled out the big man for the third straight contest to begin the season as the team continues to be cautious with him as he comes off a season filled with injuries that limited him to 17 games.

While he won’t suit up on Sunday, Robinson did travel with the team for its three-game road trip so a potential start or minutes off the bench could come in the future.

When healthy, Robinson is a serious rim protector and a menace on the glass. Although, over the Knicks’ first two games, they’ve been impressive on defense while using a whole-team approach.

That being said, Karl-Anthony Towns (quadriceps) is questionable for Sunday, as is Miles McBride (personal reasons). After making his season debut in Friday’s win over the Boston Celtics, Josh Hart is probable.

This is getting kind of annoying.

Speaking of annoying, did you see how fucking Embiid had the fucking GALL to complain about his fucking minutes in a Sixers win last night? A game in which he scored 20 points in 20 minutes. What a fucking douchebag. Boy, if that Sixers team had an even remotely decent power forward, they’d be kind of scary right now, as they look decent without Paul George even playing a role on the team. Luckily, they don’t, and for all his whining, Embiid will probably get hurt for the playoffs anyways. So, in other words, fuck the Sixers.

34 replies on “SNY: Knicks’ Mitchell Robinson ruled out for Sunday’s game vs. Heat”

It’s amazing how the anticipation and excitement for each game is augmented by the uncertainty of the rotation and schemes.

Sure, there was uncertainty at the start of last season as well, but for me, very different kind. I was still mourning the loss of iHart, not happy with the KAT acquisition (not due to price, just didn’t care for his game, and liked Julius and DDV probably more than most) and felt Mikal was a colossal overpay. Mitch was out indefinitely, Payne didn’t excite me at all, Precious was hardly a revelation, Sims was a stiff, and the rookies were clearly not ready for prime time. And Thibs was Thibs.

Even more importantly, we were coming off a dominant Celtics run through the playoffs and there was no sign that they would not come out of the East again. Then we got pounded by the Celtics on opening day, and that sense of foreboding never really left, as we got our asses kicked in 100% of the regular season games vs. the Celts, Cavs and Thunder.
And that feeling never really left until after game 2 vs. the Celts in the playoffs, although Game 1 vs. IND pretty much put an end to that.

And then Thibs gets fired, and everything changed.

So I have no idea whether we will fare any better this year than we would have if Thibs had been given just one more shot at it, but I don’t really care right now because the excitement I feel for these October and November games has been greatly enhanced by the new unknown of Mike Brown. Maybe i will care more later when we go on a bender for 5-10 games, but for now it’s freakin’ awesome!

More importantly, we didn’t win the game because Brown “let good shooters shoot a lot.” KAT took 6 3’s…he took 6 or more 20 times last year and averaged nearly 5. Brunson took 7 3’s…he averaged 6.1 last year. The rest of the team shot 10-32 from 3.

We only took 45+ 3PA 6 times last year and one of them was an OT game

There is at least a chance it was our first “would’ve lost last year” win of the season—amazing what letting good shooters shoot a lot will do

I’m inclined to agree, largely because Josh Hart was available, so he would have started over Deuce and played 40 minutes. There’s no way we would have shot as many threes (though to be fair the turnovers also would have been lower). And Kolek certainly wouldn’t have had the opportunity to impact the 2Q.

Playing Deuce solves so many problems on both sides of the floor. It’s probably the biggest reason Mikal looks like a new player.

The way I see it: Josh Hart is rock, Deuce is paper, and Mitch is scissor. We won this game because we no longer have a slavish devotion to rock.

“Playing Deuce solves so many problems on both sides of the floor”

Couldn’t agree more, probably because we agree on the “many problems” while Thibs had a vastly different definition.

“We only took 45+ 3PA 6 times last year and one of them was an OT game”

What does that have to do with why we won this particular game, or would have lost it if Thibs were coaching?

If you are saying that you prefer that the team shoot more 3’s, especially the guys who shoot them best, sure. And if you are saying that you believe that our record will be better if we have our best 3pt shooters shooting more 3’s than they did under Thibs, okay.

But there was no relationship between that strategy and the outcome of this particular game, i.e. to think that we would have lost if we took 35 3’s instead of 45.

I didn’t see the Skattebo injury, just the players’ reactions to it. Did it look like something that could derail his career or just the season?

The Celtics suck right now. I’m thinking it’s not a stretch to assume that the coach who beat last year’s version in the conference semi’s by throwing rock 6 times could have done it vs. this shitty version. Especially when paper had 10 points on 11 shots and scissors is in the repair shop.

If you are saying that you prefer that the team shoot more 3’s, especially the guys who shoot them best, sure. And if you are saying that you believe that our record will be better if we have our best 3pt shooters shooting more 3’s than they did under Thibs, okay.

But there was no relationship between that strategy and the outcome of this particular game, i.e. to think that we would have lost if we took 35 3’s instead of 45.

Yeah that’s what I’m saying, and since we hit ~37.7% of our 45 3PA for 51 total points off 3PA, and 37.7% of 35 3PA only gets you 39 points, I think the threshold of “there is at least a chance” is met.

I didn’t see the Skattebo injury, just the players’ reactions to it. Did it look like something that could derail his career or just the season?

It was awful, definitely season ending. But with the enormous “not a doctor” caveat, I’m cautiously optimistic it was a clean break/fracture that won’t impact him much long-term.

In the car with my son headed to the Kaseya Center. Can’t wait. First time my son has ever showed interest in sports. He’s absolutely pumped. We watched the first two games together. We have great seats and will be hanging out courtside before the game. Bring it home Knicks!!!!!

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I didn’t see the Skattebo injury, just the players’ reactions to it. Did it look like something that could derail his career or just the season?

He moved his thigh and the ankle was just dangling. Broken tibia at least. Probably both tibia and fibula.

“Yeah that’s what I’m saying, and since we hit ~37.7% of our 45 3PA for 51 total points off 3PA, and 37.7% of 35 3PA only gets you 39 points, I think the threshold of “there is at least a chance” is met.”

Sure, if you assume that the additional 10 3PA (you are generously assuming they hit 4 out of 10 in those additional shots; one could easily counter that the additional 10 shots were of the less efficient variety) would convert to going 0-10 from 2 with no additional FT attempts. You do realize that you are doing that, right?

As for me, I could probably counter that if the 12 3’s taken by Deuce and Hart were instead repurposed into 12 typical 2’s taken by Brunson, KAT, and Mikal, we would have beaten the Celts by a wider margin.

But I wouldn’t say that because having actually watched the entire game, I am quite certain that nothing having to do with our volume of 3’s vs. 2’s had much to do with why we won a game where we had 13 more offensive rebounds and made 12 more FTs than our opponents.

Man, that sucks for Skattebo. Hopefully it’s purely a bone thing with only minor non-bone involvement. Seems like those can heal pretty well.

The idea is to get more very high quality 3s by running and getting them off quickly before the defense settles, possibly with Towns trailing the break or by driving and kicking to open players, especially in the corners. To the extent we have good shooters and get quality looks against the defense we are up against that night, upping the volume of 3s will help. If we are forcing 3s just to take some arbitrary number of them per game we are hurting ourselves. I’d rather move the ball and get a quality look at or around the basket and potentially draw a foul or improve the possibility of an OREB.

In the car with my son headed to the Kaseya Center. Can’t wait. First time my son has ever showed interest in sports. He’s absolutely pumped. We watched the first two games together. We have great seats and will be hanging out courtside before the game. Bring it home Knicks!!!!!

Nice! I took my little guy to the Kaseya Center last year. It was our first Knicks game together, too. Enjoy.

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On Skattebo, the report says serious dislocation, but I’m sure they don’t actually know. However:

“One Eagles player immediately ran away from the area and off the field. Several Giants players turned away from Skattebo to avoid looking at the injury.”

In a larger sense, I think it’s silly to try to argue that a given game would have been won or lost because of whether it was being coached by Thibs or Brown. Just as silly as it would be to conjecture whether if Brown was coaching last year the Knicks would have won more or less regular season games or gone farther or less far in the playoffs. Brown and Thibs are both solidly second-tier coaches, and both have strengths and warts. There isn’t enough daylight between them to have strong convictions about any particular game.

What we CAN definitively say is that Brown will be more flexible with lineups and rotations, will up the pace, will up the 3PA, and will make some other modifications like moving Brunson off the ball, etc. And for me, that’s reason enough to be happy. Thibs’ approach was stale, and a change is welcome, but at the end of the day it’s a player’s league save for very, very few coaches…and neither Brown nor Thibs is gonna outcoach those guys (see: Rick Carlisle.) However, Thibs DID coach his team past Joe Mazzulla’s Celts, who as much as anyone else is a poster child for insisting on a “modern” offense. Would Brown have done that? Will Brown pick up where Thibs left off and get us over the top? Or will we just hit a different kind of ceiling at some point, possibly even sooner?

As long as there is no long-term impact from the Nabers and Skattebo injuries, this is shaping up to be the perfect Giants season: good enough to make you excited for the future, bad enough to clean house and get another high draft pick.

Or Mara decides to give Daboll and Schoen a mulligan because 1)They found Dart, 2)Mara thinks the injuries absolve them of the record, 3)Mara is sick and isn’t physically or emotionally up to the task of cleaning house yet again, 4)Mara is an overconfident, underqualified nepo baby who can’t be trusted to run a football team.

Or Mara decides to give Daboll and Schoen a mulligan because 1)They found Dart, 2)Mara thinks the injuries absolve them of the record, 3)Mara is sick and isn’t physically or emotionally up to the task of cleaning house yet again, 4)Mara is an overconfident, underqualified nepo baby who can’t be trusted to run a football team.

An awful lot of NFL teams are run by nepobabies. Who in their right mind would ever turn over a business with guarenteed profit, where the valuation outruns the S&P and its just about the koolest toy in the world to own?

Deuce is out for personal reasons. Hart was on a minutes restriction in the previous game (20 minutes), but isn’t tonight.

The Tyler Kolek Game? The Jordan Clarkson Game? Is it too early in the season for a The [Playername] Game?

An awful lot of NFL teams are run by nepobabies. Who in their right mind would ever turn over a business with guarenteed profit, where the valuation outruns the S&P and its just about the koolest toy in the world to own?

And the smarter nepobabies know to leave the actual sports people alone to do their jobs. The Maras have consistently proved that they can’t do that. The Giants’ only sustained period of successes in my lifetime came during the stretch in between when Pete Rozelle forced Wellington to hire George Young to run the team, and when John decided the family had been hands-off long enough.

In the car with my son headed to the Kaseya Center. Can’t wait. First time my son has ever showed interest in sports. He’s absolutely pumped. We watched the first two games together. We have great seats and will be hanging out courtside before the game. Bring it home Knicks!!!!!

Wow, that’s great. I hope it’s a great game and… that Heat fans leave 2 mins before the end! 😉 😀

three games with three different starting lineups is…….kinda cool? hope all is alright with deuces world

guess its not our third different starting lineup in three games after all still very happy with it

I liked what I saw from Washington in the preseason. Wouldn’t shock me if they beat their O/U (20.5) by a wide margin.

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