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    Playing a game without a healthy kicker two years in a row could be random but it smells like incompetence.

    Just amazing that John Mara retained this bumbling GM/coach duo, then let them draft a potential QB of the future. So not only has he thrown away yet another season, but if Dart looks decent whenever Russ finally gets moved to the bench, Mara may feel compelled to keep this administration around to work with their new toy.

    Sigh… That second Super Bowl win against the Pats was maybe the worst thing that could happen to that franchise long-term. It was at least a little fluky, but made Mara — who had recently begun actively participating in football operations after leaving Young and Accorsi alone — wildly overconfident in his abilities.

    if Dart looks decent whenever Russ finally gets moved to the bench, Mara may feel compelled to keep this administration around to work with their new toy.

    I advocated for this before the season but I’m out. These guys aren’t good. If they lucked into a legit QB, then good for the next guy.

    I am not the biggest James Edward’s III fan but mostly agreed with his takes in the Q&A article posted above.

    I disagree on who would most likely be traded…Kolek has to be the guy precisely because Dadiet has more value, not to mention he would be the more valuable depth piece. But nothing should be done until after preseason anyway, at which time Leon and Brown will have more answers.

    I also think that Dadiet, Diawara, and Huk will all be valuable depth pieces beyond this season when major trades are back on the table, either to include in the trade or to have reasonable depth post-trade.

    And I’m not making any rash judgments after three games but I’ve been conditioned to think everyone we draft is a bust so it would be nice to see Abdul Carter do something soon.

    Yeah, I’d rather give away Kolek for nothing — hell, even attach a semi-second round pick (ideally with some protections) — then trade Dadiet just because you can get something back for him. He’s the exact kind of player we could use as some of the vets like Hart start aging out or getting traded.

    That said, if the coaches and FO have been watching him for a year-plus and feel like the theory isn’t going to be a reality — or isn’t going to be a reality until he’s on his second contract — then maybe you just punt him as part of going all-in for this year.

    Carter was the best edge rusher in college yet he’s being used as an Inside LB and pass rushing DT.

    “That said, if the coaches and FO have been watching him for a year-plus and feel like the theory isn’t going to be a reality — or isn’t going to be a reality until he’s on his second contract — then maybe you just punt him as part of going all-in for this year.”

    Yes, but I’ve seen enough of him to feel pretty strongly that he’s worth keeping. The game is still a bit too fast for him and his shot is still a bit variable, mostly due to inconsistencies in his form, but he is very skilled and has decent athleticism and excellent size. I would love to see him spotted in every 3-4 games.

    The one caveat is in what Diawara shows. If he develops quickly and Dadiet stalls, that could make Dadiet on his larger deal more expendable. But I think there’s value in rostering these young wings, even in a win or bust season. Whereas at age 24, an undersized PG like Kolek would have to quickly become a TJ McConnell-like overachiever in training camp to justify having him on this roster.

    “Media Day is Wednesday, training camp opens on Thursday for Knicks and other teams with preseason games overseas.”

    cyber, sorry, I screwed up, Media Day is TOMORROW and training camp opens Wednesday!!!!!

    Just like for this educators of middle schoolers, February often seemed like the longest month, as a Knicks fan, this offseason seemed longer than most, even though it was actually the shortest in a quarter century! The anticipation has been literally unbearable!

    Carter was the best edge rusher in college yet he’s being used as an Inside LB and pass rushing DT.

    Yeah this Bowen guy seems pretty bad. Worse than Schoen and Daboll even.

    The other Athletic article from last week was Hollinger ringing the alarm on Bridges’ extension:

    Entering his age-29 season, he has a $20.3 million BORD$ valuation — a solid, valuable player, certainly, but more like a fifth starter than a star.

    However, New York is paying him to be a star, or at least star-ish, at 20 percent of the projected cap, and it comes right at an inflection point age-wise when most role players start losing their juice. This is particularly true at small forward, which is historically the league’s fastest-aging position. Most tall wings in their 30s either become power forwards or golfers, and Bridges’ body doesn’t lend itself to the former.

    Yay.

    Looking at the NBA international pre-season schedule and interesting that only 1 team is going to Australia.

    And I’m not making any rash judgments after three games but I’ve been conditioned to think everyone we draft is a bust so it would be nice to see Abdul Carter do something soon.

    How about playing him in position on the edge than trying to jam him into the Dick Butkus MLB position because you were stupid enough not to have inside linebackers on the roster?

    As someone who watches a lot of football casually but has never really learned the ins and outs, has Carter’s impact been quite muted compared to his draft stock or am I missing something?

    At least my Miami Hurricanes are awesome.

    Carter’s rookie season so far is reminding me of Thibs rookie season (Not the Knicks coach). Both were Top 5 picks who initially looked underwhelming but Thibs did record double digit sacks in his 2nd season before regressing last year.

    Burns looks like the real deal at least and worth the money he’s being paid, would think eventually Carter will prove to be just as good. Probably won’t happen though until they get a new defensive coordinator, its too bad Wink is apparently that difficult to work with cause the defense has dropped off big time since he left.

    it would be nice to see Abdul Carter do something soon.
    How about playing him in position on the edge than trying to jam him into the Dick Butkus MLB

    Monday mornings in September are especially challenging for me here, I never know whether y’all are posting about end-of-the bench basketball players, football players, or baseball players.

    Knicks could go 82-0, win the championship and Hollinger would still find a reason to criticize them.

    I don’t think anyone here disputes that Mikal and OG are both overpaid. The question is: was the alternative of letting them test free agency preferable to signing them to their extensions?

    There is also the question of whether the sunk cost issue is relevant. I think it is…the players were acquired at a high cost specifically to be starters on a championship-caliber team. It would be silly to say “Hey, I know we paid a fortune for them, but let’s bail on them after one season because they didn’t measure up to the extension they wanted…even though we have no way to replace them while remaining a serious contender and at the risk of losing them (and all that was paid for them) for nothing.”

    At the end of the day,contending teams often have salary imbalances, overpaying some rotation players and underpaying others. In our case, Brunson, Deuce, and Mitch are all woefully underpaid, Yabu and Clarkson are probably underpaid, KAT and Hart are both market value deals, and OG and Mikal are overpaid. At the end of the day, they are still under the second apron even after acquiring a max player in KAT, a feat that some smart KBers thought would be impossible by now.

    So as a whole, I don’t really care all that much about overpaying Mikal and OG…so long as they are healthy (remember the injury doom and gloom about OG that some here were forecasting? So far, so good!) and reasonably productive relative to expectations in their respective roles. I personally think that Hollinger’s concerns about Mikal being susceptible to decline is, at best, misguided…he’s the most durable player in the NBA and just turned 29! There is literally no reason to believe that he won’t be a top of rotation player at age 32, and if he opts in to his age 33 season, it’s an expiring deal. I don’t think they would have any trouble dumping that salary along the way, and he could be salary filler in a deal for a Giannis-type superstar. The second apron is going to force some teams to make tough decisions regarding their max players, so who knows who will become available?

    To me the calculus is fairly simple–if you want to keep the band together you are going to overpay. So the key question is why would you want to keep the band together. Being favourites to reach the NBA finals is a pretty good reason.

    Burns is awesome.

    I’m not really worried about Carter, I just think it would be cool if he looked good. I was excited to watch him this year, and it’s annoying that we haven’t gotten a hint of what he’s capable of yet.

    Do you think Thibs is a keeper, Al? I haven’t watched much the last two years but get the sense that he’s been disappointing.

    To me the calculus is fairly simple–if you want to keep the band together you are going to overpay. So the key question is why would you want to keep the band together. Being favourites to reach the NBA finals is a pretty good reason.

    Bridges wasn’t a free agent so we could have kept the band together without extending him.

    I suspect the decision to extend him will look great this year bc I expect him to bounce back. But having him on the books for so much money in his 30s (his extension doesn’t even begin til next season) is a big reason I think this team’s window is only one season.

    I share some of Hollinger’s concerns about Bridges specifically, but I don’t think his method of determining which players are overpaid works all that well. It basically translates box-score production into an AAV figure without accounting much for things like positional and/or skillset scarcity. This strikes me as a flawed approach in a market where everyone knows that similarly “productive” players can have wildly different values based on their positions and/or skillsets (i.e. 2 BPM wings who can shoot are infinitely more valuable than 2 BPM centers who can dunk and rebound). I mean, the formula spat out $34M AAV for Josh Giddey, so I think it could use some work. Of the publicly available metrics, to me EPM seems to do the best job of accounting for this and it’s not a part of Hollinger’s formula.

    It’s positional/skillset scarcity that makes me wholly unconcerned about OG’s contract. I have said this since the day it was signed and I will standby it–if we ever want to trade it for something of value, we’ll be able. There are simply too few players who can guard 5 positions credibly-to-well and shoot. This made re-signing him a no-brainer, and unlike Mikal the trade price doesn’t make you wonder about opportunity cost. I miss Quickley, but we really got one over on Masai at long last.

    Mikal is an entirely different story because 1) we traded much, much more for him and 2) he kind of stopped doing a lot of the things that previously earned him a reputation as a fellow scarce skillset guy, and now mostly just takes midrange jump shots. So, I hope he goes back to shooting threes and defending consistently and notably well, because the 2024-2025 version was definitely overpaid in both dollars and outgoing trade assets.

    There were already rumors after Carter was drafted that Thibs was gonna be traded, gonna be interesting to see if he gets a contract extension since he’s already in his 4th season.

    Bridges bouncing back would be amazing. Low key one of the most disappointing things about last season was him not showing up to work ready to perform. Really killed the buzz about the team.

    I don’t know how he could be more mediocre than he was last year but I don’t have much faith in him returning to his Phoenix form.

    Bridges had a decent amount of memorable games and moments last season, I think the expectations for him were a bit too high and unrealistic for some fans.

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    I didn’t really have a problem with Mikal shooting midrange shots because he makes them more often than not….What I have a problem with is a) his microscopic FTr, and b) his 3pt%.

    I wonder how much of his poor FTr is due to Thibs’ schemes and how much is Mikal just purposely avoiding contact on his own. I mean, it seems very weird that he went from the mid .200s down to .100 in a year’s time. I’m hoping it’s something he’s working on this offseason. Or that Mike Brown will have him cutting hard off ball so that he gets fouled more when teams rotate late to him at the rim.

    As to the 3pt%, hopefully he has settled in to a shooting form and is not tinkering with it like he did last offseason.

    But he should still be taking lots of 2’s because that is the most dependable shot to take under pressure…he made over 50% of them from all three ranges…3-10 ft, 10-16 ft, and 16ft out to the 3pt line. He actually shot better from 2 than SGA! And when you have Mitch and KAT in there to clean up his misses, it’s not a bad idea to put up soft shots.

    That he ended up with a .585 TS% despite these two issues, along with playing the most minutes in the NBA while doing the grueling job defending the POA, seems more promising to me than alarming.

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    I didn’t really have a problem with Mikal shooting midrange shots because he makes them more often than not….What I have a problem with is a) his microscopic FTr, and b) his 3pt%.

    But these three things are related! Midrange jumpers rarely lead to FTA, and of course every midrange jumper is a shot that isn’t a 3PA.

    In a vacuum, sure, there’s nothing inherently wrong with taking midrange jumpers if you’re good at them, and Mikal is better than most. I even buy the idea that it’s a premium skill in the playoffs because it’s largely impervious to opposing defenses. But Mikal indexed so god damn heavily on them at the direct expense of more efficient shots, and the grand plan to be more prepared for the playoffs was a total bust.

    My issue with OG has never been “can we get something for him when the time comes.” It’s been about the impact his bloated salary has on our ability to build depth.

    That debate is over already. The margin by which he is overpaid has pushed us against the second apron two years in a row. This impacted all of our 2024 draft selections. And for two consecutive seasons it’s limited our ability to add vets on minimum deals.

    Even if we get 4 first round picks for the guy in 2 seasons, the overpay has already killed us on the margins.

    If we had some rookie contract players who were productive, that would soften the impact of OG’s huge contract. Alas.

    That said, if the coaches and FO have been watching him for a year-plus and feel like the theory isn’t going to be a reality — or isn’t going to be a reality until he’s on his second contract — then maybe you just punt him as part of going all-in for this year.

    This is 100% correct.

    We’ve seen very little of Kolek and Dadiet. From that little, we make projections. The front office and coaching staff has see a LOT more of both and has a lot more information to work with when deciding who is more likely to develop into a useful piece and when.

    If we had some rookie contract players who were productive, that would soften the impact of OG’s huge contract. Alas.

    They’re not unrelated. We lacked the apron flexibility to draft the best players available at 24 and 25 because of OG’s huge contract.

    Mikal taking midrange jumpers is still worse than the worst Ortg in the league.

    He’s good at it, and it helps keep defenses off balance, but it’s not offense you should seek out.

    Mikal was also really predictable with his midrange jumpers in the playoffs. Indy knew it was coming. I think there were a few times they gave a lane to the basket to play the jumper and Mikal went to the jumper anyway.

    I’m at the point where I think very few of the top names in basketball coverage have any clue as to how to value players and what their contribution to winning is.

    I don’t want to single out Hollinger because he’s probaby better than many, but I don’t give a crap what he thinks. My opinion is better than his and that’s not even saying much. Now if I watched a Zach Lowe podcast and he was discussing Mikal Bridges with someone else of similar insight and they started laying out things I hadn’t already thought about, I might adjust my thinking, but you have to tell me something I don’t already know and haven’t already evaluated.

    There were already rumors after Carter was drafted that Thibs was gonna be traded, gonna be interesting to see if he gets a contract extension since he’s already in his 4th season.

    Since besides Burns, Thibs has been the second best performing player on the roster this season, I can’t believe he’s going anywhere.

    I see Bridges as an impending opportunity/inflection point for the Leon front office. he got extended, ok, you had to. but now what? you can’t plan to run him out there for the 4 years of his contract and hope for the best.

    they will need to pivot from Mikal in the next 1-2 years or watch him turn into a pumpkin. it’s reminiscent to me of the RJ extension (which also seemed too rich and for a guy who was a questionable fit) + trade.

    if there was a Knicks roster trade bait power rankings, going by the awkwardness of the roster fit, how close to expiry they are as a trade asset, and quality of a possible return, Mikal would be at the top (along with Josh, which it brings me no joy to say)

    My opinion is better than his and that’s not even saying much.

    What age do you think is the inflection point for small forwards then? Because that was the part I found credible. I don’t particularly care what a BORD$ value is.

    Mikal taking midrange jumpers is still worse than the worst Ortg in the league.

    He’s good at it, and it helps keep defenses off balance, but it’s not offense you should seek out.

    I’m a minority of 1.

    I think moving away from long 2s and towards 3s was the huge leap forward made in basketball offense. Then the players got better shooting them. That was all a no brainer.

    I think taking tough 3s instead of good mid range shots is more debateable for a number of reasons. IMO, that’s especially true in in the playoffs where pressure is higher, against teams that close out well or even when you are clearly the better team and are inviting much more volatility by taking tough 3s (ask the Celtics).

    What you want in order is to get to the rim, finish and draw fouls, get open 3s (especially from the corners) and then either tougher 3s from elite 3 point shooters (Curry, Durant, Lillard etc..) or midrange from elite mid range shooters.

    IMO, teams are taking too many tough 3s these days.

    If I were to criticize Mikal’s shot selection, it would be that maybe he needs to get stronger and try to finish through contact more instead of almost always fading away. You want to draw more fouls. Even in the midrange he should be able draw more fouls than from 3 and maybe even give us more offensive rebound opportunities if he shoots from the right spots and we have teammates attacking the boards.

    So by that logic, SGA should abandon the midrange shot, because that’s where he took 50% of his shots, and only made around 50% of them, while he shot 37.5% from 3 and 78.5% from the rim.

    Of course, no one thinks that. Midrange shots are incredibly important to consistently winning basketball games, and even more important when you have the best offensive rebounder in the league on your team. Brunson takes more than 50% of his shots in the midrange and makes them at a lower % than Bridges does, and also shoots better from 3 than Bridges.

    The prolbem with Bridges is that unlike Brunson or SGA, he doesn’t get to the line or create space by drawing multiple defenders or hedges and blitzes. He consistently gets guarded 1-on-1 and makes it harder for him to do anything other than either shoot or dump off. There’s no “fake guys up in the air and then step in to draw the foul” game that Brunson and SGA use in the midrange.

    I’m totally fine with Mikal’s shooting splits in a vacuum. It’s the lack of FTs and dump-offs (14% asst%) that bugs me.

    Strat and I are pretty much saying the same thing about Mikal. Moreover, it’s really that his 3pt% was pretty disappointing all year, including in the playoffs. I see zero reason for him to take more 3’s above the break unless that improves. It’s not like he’s turning down corner 3’s, where he actually shot pretty well all season, just to take long 2’s.

    Personally I think Mikal’s best position would be SG, not SF…especially in a lineup with Brunson and without Deuce. He doesn’t really rebound like a forward. I think he was listed as a SF in our starting lineups last year, but is he really? Hart is more of a forward then he is, but B-R said that Hart was at SG 66% of his minutes, and that must have included all of the starter’s minutes…not to mention that Bridges was playing the POA on D vs. guards and Hart was being covered by opposing C’s…

    What age do you think is the inflection point for small forwards then?

    I think every player ages differenty due to genetics, work ethic, injuries etc…

    I think 28-29 year old Bridges is not the same as 22 year old Bridges, but I don’t see a noticeable decline. At this age he’s probably more suited to guarding wings instead of super fast PGs, but that’s not a problem wih him. It’s a problem with Brunson for which we have no good solution other than Bridges playing defense out of position or starting Deuce.

    I think Bridges had a very positive impact on winning last year and some of the hate is related to ridiculous expectations because of the price we paid, not understanding that his usage would be down because we have 2 better scoring options and his slow start from tinkering with his form. If we have a more balanced attack and better offense I think he will up his 3p% and TS% this year.

    If Deuce gets more run, Mitch stays healthy and we lower his minutes a bit, that will take away some of the huge burden he has on defense and save some energy for offense.

    I’m still a Mikal fan. We paid too much, but Leon was trying to get us into win now contention.

    The prolbem with Bridges is that unlike Brunson or SGA, he doesn’t get to the line or create space by drawing multiple defenders or hedges and blitzes. He consistently gets guarded 1-on-1 and makes it harder for him to do anything other than either shoot or dump off.

    So what you are saying is that Bridges is not a candidate for MVP of the league. 😉

    At a minimum he’s capable of drawing more fouls. He’s done it in the NBA. His fade away was a strategic decision by him based on his experience in the playoffs with the Suns where he felt he wasn’t getting the same calls despite a more physical game. Sometimes when you make a change you tend to overdo it. Maybe Brown will help him make some adjustments towards finishing through contact. The other possibility is that he’s overly worried about injuries.

    I’m bullish on Bridges for the next 12 months but I don’t expect him to age well. I predict we’ll be discussing the benefits of using the stretch provision on him by the second year of his extension.

    Brunson uses the midrange jumper as a counter when he gets stuck and can’t get to the basket, draw a foul, or pass the ball.

    Mikal passes up the layups, fouls, and doesn’t pass all that much so he can get to the midrange jumper.

    And no, their shot distribution likely is not that similar because SGA has a .400 FTr and Brunson has a .370 FTr while Mikal is at .100.

    I suspect those additional fouls are coming from being under the basket a lot more often than when they take midrange jumpers, so if you were to include those in a shot chart, you’d see that the shot profile is not all that similar.

    Leon targeted both Mikal and OG to beat Celtics and get to the finals.

    Mikal Bridges outplayed Jaylen Brown in 5 out of 6 games that series and in my book he deserves to get paid at least half as much as the man he was hired to slay.

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    Mikal won at least 6 games last year with a STOCK that I remember of the top of my head plus one game winning shot when Brunson was out. How much is that worth?

    They’re not unrelated. We lacked the apron flexibility to draft the best players available at 24 and 25 because of OG’s huge contract.

    In theory this is true, but in practice not so much. If OG had signed for a lesser amount, it’s not like they would have drafted useful players in the Dadiet slot. They would have just traded that pick for something else, or traded down, or done whatever other maddening incineration fuckery they could cook up. Or they just would have picked somebody that wasn’t very good anyway. Maybe there’s a timeline where they thread the needle and take Kyle Filipowski at 25, but there were many ways that pick could have gone wrong even if they didn’t have to do the Dadiet haircut workaround.

    In fact, they probably just would have taken Kolek at 25 now that I think about it.

    “I suspect those additional fouls are coming from being under the basket a lot more often than when they take midrange jumpers”

    I would very much disagree with this. SGA takes 30% of his shots between 10-23 feet. Brunson took 28% from there. Bridges took 23% form there, and only 4% from outside of 16 feet.

    I would guess that both SGA and Brunson get fouled frequently (relative to others) in the midrange, either in the act or in the penalty, because they are so good at getting players off balance and causing them to lunge or reach. Since only the makes show up as missed shot attempts, those fouls actually raise their 2pt shooting percentages since misses don’t count if you are fouled unless you make the shot, meaning that your eFG% on those “actual” shot attempts is guaranteed to be greater than 100% (only makes are counted plus they are accompanied by FTs.

    Example: Brunson starts a game by getting fouled in the act while missing the shot, converts both FTs, and then gets fouled in the act and converts the and-1. Statistically, that’s 5 points on 1 FGA. So it doesn’t matter that SGA and Brunson shoot at a lowish TS% from the midrange because their PPP is boosted by FTs. Whereas Mikal almost never got fouled in the midrange because he relied on fading away with his length and high release rather than shiftiness with the ball.

    All that said, I would guess that PPP on all of their midrange shots not involving fouls is helped by having excellent offensive rebounders on the team. It seems that if despite shooting below average from 3 and never going to the line, Mikal still had a TS+ of 101 on moderate usage, he’s not really hurting the team with his shot profile.

    Hopefully Brown will not change his shot profile beyond tweaks and Bridges is working on ways to draw more fouls without hurting his 2pt FG%.

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    At least Mikal had the dunk on Cade and the two blocks against the Celtics.

    But yeah, it would be nice if he could shoot more than 2 FTs per week.

    All of this said, I do think the question of whether it was better to extend Mikal as Leon did vs. waiting until this coming offseason to do it is valid. I agree that there is significant chance that Mikal becomes a negative asset in a couple of years, but that is at least partially offset by his iron-man durability vs. a guy like, say, De’Andre Hunter who is always banged up.

    the binge begins today hubie…got hulu no ads just for it…you still get the little fade to black scene end, but, not too bad…

    gonna start over from episode 1 and do 2 or 3 at a time…let the battle for earth begin 👽

    Mikal Bridges outplayed Jaylen Brown in 5 out of 6 games that series and in my book he deserves to get paid at least half as much as the man he was hired to slay.

    Jaylen Brown on the series had more pts, rebs, asts, and also had a higher TS% than Mikal. So I’m not sure in what sense he outplayed him.

    Mikal wasn’t just brought in to defend Jaylen Brown, he was also brought in to defend PGs and be an offensive weapon. In the playoffs he failed in both roles.

    “Jaylen Brown on the series had more pts, rebs, asts, and also had a higher TS% than Mikal. So I’m not sure in what sense he outplayed him.”

    Mostly agree, although Mikal did have his moments that made a huge difference. Brown was compromised by a bad knee as well.

    The Bridges trade will never wind up in the positive value column, nor will his extension. It’s only a matter of how big the gap is between producton and cost, both actual and opportunity cost. For year one, it was more about the cost in draft picks. From here out, it will be more about the cost in cap space.

    But as I keep saying, you do have to factor in a premium for his durability.

    FROM SHAMS:

    Just in: Houston Rockets’ Fred VanVleet has suffered a torn ACL, sources tell ESPN. A devastating, potentially season-ending loss for the Rockets with their starting point guard and leader.

    Just in: Houston Rockets’ Fred VanVleet has suffered a torn ACL, sources tell ESPN. A devastating, potentially season-ending loss for the Rockets with their starting point guard and leader.

    Terrible. That changes the west.

    That’s a bummer because I really like and admire FVV as an undrafted player who made good. They are deep enough to still be a force, but that definitely hurts their chances vs. OKC, etc.

    The Bridges trade will never wind up in the positive value column, nor will his extension. It’s only a matter of how big the gap is between producton and cost, both actual and opportunity cost.

    I suspect no one in the Knicks organization was thinking in those terms at the time of the deal or extension. At the very least, it wasn’t primary in the thinking process.

    Unlike earlier in the rebuild, they were already at the point where value was secondary.

    They were asking “who is the best possible player we can sign or trade for that fits our team, that fits a need, that is available to sign or trade for and can we fit him and stay under the second apron?”

    They stopped focusing on the value of individual trades and signings as soon as they got to the point where they could see an opening in the contender window.

    At that point it was:

    “How much do they want for OG? How much is it going to cost to resign him? Trade for him and then extend him.”

    “The T-Wolves want DDV also? Damn! We need a starting C. Give it to them”.

    “How many picks do the Nets want? Are they nuts? “Damn, he’s what we need. Give it to them”.

    Now they have their contender.

    Had they been penny pinching, the 2nd apron would not be an issue, but Brunson and Hart would be aging, RJ would be throwing up bricks, Simms would have been the starting C and we’d be a second tier team with some flexibility.

    At least we’d still have Quickley. 😉

    So I think a decent comp for Bridges is DeMar Derozan, except that DeRozan gets to the line a lot more and Bridges shoots more (and has a much better % on) 3 pointers.

    Not sure about DeRozan’s defensive reputation either.

    But for what we gave up for Bridges, I would hope that he can provide us more than a Demar Derozan could (who’s not a bad player but pretty limited imo)

    In the playoffs one big shot or quarter is usually enough to justify a player’s worth. Bridges had a big Game 3 at Detroit, made some huge plays in the 2nd half of Game 6 and obviously made the 2 game winning defensive plays at Boston. Plus offensively he had big 4th quarters in Games 2 and 4.

    I agree that overall his season was disappointing but to me he made enough game winning plays on both ends of the court that showed his value to this team. His 41 pts vs the Spurs and his huge game at Portland is proof that he’s still capable of having superstar level performances.

    Interesting development. I don’t think Houston is going to waste a Durant year, and they have plenty of assets to make a trade.

    Here’s the first one I thought of:

    FVV and Phoenix’ first in 2027 to Boston for Derrick White.

    Boston gets to tank hard this year while Tatum & FVV rehab. Between that and the Phoenix pick they’d likely have a top 6 pick each of the next two years. And FVV’s contract is two years shorter than White’s so they get flexibility.

    “So I think a decent comp for Bridges is DeMar Derozan”

    d-mar on DeMar…interesting!

    I’m not crazy about the DeRozan comp because DeMar has always been a very high usage player (i.e more of a poor man’s first option) who took lots of 2’s and got to the line a ton, while being a sub-par defender but pretty good rebounder and passer. I never considered DeRozan a heady player, just a decent volume scorer with lots of flaws. He never got a max deal, so I can’t say he was ever bad value to his team, but I never liked his overall game that much.

    Mikal is more of a complementary player with some scoring chops but not realy a guy you want at a 30-ish USG%. The crazy-good stretch he had after being traded to the Nets seems more like an illusion now, he was not very good in the following year at high-ish usage and just so-so offensively in a more limited role last year.

    I do think that some of that inefficiency is self-inflicted and some was due to being both misused and overused by Thibs. There really should be a better player in there than we saw last year. Hopefully he learned how to fit in better, and Brown utilizes him better on both ends.

    can’t imagine the rockets standing pat with sheppard or holiday running the point…

    they’re in a tough spot, wonder if there’s any deal we can make with them…

    finally getting around to dealing with the trust/will stuff, going over details this week (fucking double yuch)…even just got a workbook off amazon: i’m fucking dead, here’s what to do with all my shit 🙁

    one of you nagging motherfuckers brought it up to me like years ago…think it was g-man (gkhenman – misspell sorry)…at the time thought it was a bit personal, damn solid advice though…it may or may not be related to some fear/paranoia/mental hang up thing…i don’t wanna know why it’s been such an issue for me to deal, just wanna get it settled now…

    sort of knew the moment i heard it, the trust/will shit was the right thing to do…been putting it off now for years…however, i’m on the road all the time now in this current iteration of life, sitting comfortably at home, mortality seems a way distant concept…maybe not so much tooling around on the I10, I5,I210, highway 152, the 60 whenever i gotta get on it, the 101 – god forbid, I280, i could go on…

    why can’t i just live forever…

    Geo, 9 times out of 10 I’m pro binge. But I think this show is the 1 that doesn’t lend well to it.

    Without giving anything away, I recommend you give episode 5 its own day. It’s basically an Alien movie disguised as an episode of TV.

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    i’m fucking dead, here’s what to do with all my shit

    is that the name of the book? if so…that’s awesome…..i finally got around to it last year…not too hard if you don’t have many assets and just one kid…

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    FVV and Phoenix’ first in 2027 to Boston for Derrick White.

    Great idea. I really like this for both teams…but I’m sure Stevens is not gonna let anyone off the hook with a fair trade. The guy just salary dumped broken players and actually received compensation in return.

    i’m fucking dead, here’s what to do with all my shit

    A classic, Geo. Glad you’re taking care of business – imagine the chaos and difficulty you’d be foisting on those you love without it.

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    FVV and Phoenix’ first in 2027 to Boston for Derrick White.

    I’ll be pretty annoyed if Boston makes this reasonable trade….

    Wasn’t Amen Thompson being groomed as HOU’s PG of the future, or am I just a doddering old fool?

    amen thompson is not now nor has he ever been a point guard he played 0 percent there as a rookie and 1 percent there last season hes 6 foot 7 and plays most of his time at sf

    they’re in a tough spot, wonder if there’s any deal we can make with them…

    We could trade them Kolek 😉 😉

    Note: I have no idea how to smile emojis so I used the old fashioned kind.

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    Sigh, why you gotta make me google stuff Doogie:

    Strengths: Thompson is a 6’7 210 perimeter player who is physically gifted enough to play 1-3 at the pro level, with especially good size for the PG spot that he’s mostly viewed at as a prospect … Freakishly athletic; has outstanding speed, quickness and explodes off the floor as a leaper … Threatens the paint in a blur with his 1st step; even has success slashing against perfectly set defenders in the halfcourt because of his speed … Has an unorthodox rhythm with the ball that when mixed with his speed gives him the potential to keep defenders off balance and on his hip in the pick and roll game; allowing him to find open teammates or create slashing lanes to attack for himself … Likes handling and unselfishly finding streaking teammates in transition, being most comfortable passing on the move (6 apg in 22-23) … Developing ability to read the defense on the move and find the open man when bigs hedge or extra defenders collapse onto him … Has the good floor vision that generally comes with being a taller lead guard; makes good hit ahead passes and can whip cross-court passes to cutters and spot-up shooters when needed …

    – nbadraft.net

    that may have been his scouting report coming out of college but he clearly wasnt drafted for that as he has barely played there at all (about 22 minutes out of 3613 total regular season nba minutes played or 0.62 percent)

    Like Jeff Van Gundy used to say: “the season doesn’t really start until every player tears a tendon.” Wake me up when OKC tears one.

    I’m not crazy about the DeRozan comp because DeMar has always been a very high usage player (i.e more of a poor man’s first option) who took lots of 2’s and got to the line a ton, while being a sub-par defender but pretty good rebounder and passer.

    Yeah Z-man legit points, I only brought up DeRozan because he and Bridges are anomalies in today’s NBA – guys who rely almost exclusively on midrange shots.

    But if Mikal can get to the line more and hit a higher percentage of 3’s, he’d obviously be a much more useful player than DeRozan.

    but I’m sure Stevens is not gonna let anyone off the hook with a fair trade.

    Houston has plenty more picks to throw in but their GM is as much a shark as anyone. I don’t think he’s going to get fleeced by boy wonder.

    Wake me up when OKC tears one.

    The way things are going for us right now I’d put even money on SGA having a season-ending injury.

    And I haven’t quite figured out how the repeater tax works but based on what I’ve read this summer I think if Boston trades White ($28M) for FVV ($25M) then somehow they might save $50 million.

    I think it would be a very questionable move for Boston to trade Derrick White. He’s an outstanding player on a value long-term contract.

    I was thinking Van Vleet was much older than White, but I looked it up and they are both 31. The trade might work for both teams.

    The Rockets are expected to give more minutes to Amen Thompson and Reed Sheppard at point guard.

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    The Rockets are expected to give more minutes to Amen Thompson and Reed Sheppard at point guard.

    Thats just a textbook classic thing to say at first…next man up type of thing but zero chance they don’t try to trade for a starting PG and waste a year on a super short KD window.

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