Game 1 Notes: Knicks 122 Bucks 97

Below are my notes from last night’s game.

National Anthem:
So my building was sold again this year, which means I have to go through the process of training a new set of owners how appartments need heat. This is seriously affecting my drink choices. I’ve been home all day, and I’m freezing, so I’m thinking winter time beverages. In the fridge is some heavy cream, so I’m going with a Brandy Alexander. She usually doesn’t make an appearance until Christmas, but I’m wearing a sweatshirt right now.

Introductions:
CHRIS COPELAND!

Wow I love how folksy the Bucks owner is. Somebody tell me that “speech” to the crowd is somewhere on YouTube.

1Q
Porzingis loses a rebound. Someone make this kid carry around a pumpkin to build up those wrists & fingers. It’s October, so no one will notice.

Bucks run a pick & roll. Calderon desides to admire the bright lights for a few minutes as Milwaukee plays basketball. Bucks first guy misses, but the second makes the basket. Not a good start.

Kristaps shows some nice defense on a Copeland drive (was it a block). His length will be causing problems on the defensive end.

Calderon passes it directly to the Bucks. And then follows it up by letting them have an easy bucket off another pick. He’s looking like the 19th pick in the draft.

Wow and on the next play Michael Carter-Williams beats Jose on a back door alley-oop. If I’m coach, I’m putting in Galloway or Grant. 11-4 Bucks, Knicks time out.

Carmelo scores on a drive. He might as well, no one else is doing anything.

Porzingis has missed 3 shots I think. On this last one, Copeland just put a hand in his face. I’m glad I took the under with regards to his true shooting percentage.

O’Quinn & Williams are in, along with Vujacic, Galloway, and Melo.

Ooooh I just came up with a nickname for O’Quinn: Oaq.

I was refreshing my drink (and not watching) when Jerian Grant scores. Promise to catch the next one.

Derrick Williams just split two defenders, and had Oaq wide open under the hoop. He keeps the ball and gets fouled instead. Assists are meaningless to this man.

On the Bucks feed, I see William Shatner doing a commercial for a local law firm. Nice owner? William Shatner endorcing local business? Where is this magical place called Milwaukee?

We’re not even 12 minutes into the new season, and I know who Derrick Williams is. He’s the guy at your local court who can score, but will shoot the ball anytime it hits his paws.

He’s taken two shots while I wrote those sentences about him.

OK the color guy on the Bucks telecast just mentioned “analytics” about Williams getting to the free throw line. I’m getting the suitcases out.

Jerian Grant with a nice drive & scoop layup to score. Told you I’d catch the next one.

Knicks up 27-23.

2Q
Derrick Williams scores again to start the quarter. He’s definitely fun to watch so far.

Oaq on Monroe with a nice defensive stop (blocked shot?). Looks like he can defend against centers which is a good thing.

Bucks telecast is (partially) sponsored by Wendys. I’m fucking there! (Side note: is their chili the healthiest thing you can get in any fast food restaurant?)

Attempted alley-oop to Porzingis. Not even close. Put that back in the binder until next year.

On the other end his length is still causing problems. On this possession it was the cause of a back court.

Kristaps drives baseline and scores off the glass.

Knicks up 49-34, and Derrick Williams has 15 points.

Porzingis with a block! What if he’s half of Dirk’s offense, but with a strong defensive game?

Michael Carter-Williams now torches Vujacic for an easy basket. Guards wanted, non-defenders need not apply.

Porzingis is the trailer on a Galloway breakaway. Takes three shots and gets fouled on the last one.

Then Kristaps gets a steal, but Vuajic underthrows the alley-oop. Next year, guys. Next year.

Zinger again at the line for being fouled on the break.

Oaq scores from the blocks with 3 on him. Where were you in 1993?

Porzingis again at the line. Maybe my pre-season concerns were unfounded.

Oaq just thwacked Bayless on a fast break drive that looked like something the Iron Sheik would have pulled. The Buck announcers say he reminds them of … Charles Oakley. How much are plane tickets?

Porzingis gets it on the low blocks. He’s a bit out of control, but gets bailed out by a Milwaukee foul. Oh and he’s at the line again!

HALFTIME
Knicks winning 63-51. I can see the MSG cast interviewing Derrick Williams in the background.

3Q
Switched to the Knicks’ feed. I have to grab the mute on my tv remote and inch up on the volume. We New Yorkers are a loud people.

Anthony knocks down a three. He’s been quiet for Melo thus far.

Anthony takes 2 more shots. They’re obviously trying to get him into the game more.

The Knicks are up 70-55. Did I drink that much?

Melo comes up gimpy on a contact play. My heart just skipped a beat. But Anthony stays in the game and appears OK.

Kristaps on the half court trap is like having a windmill come to life and attack you. His presence helps force an easy steal for Sasha, and an easy transition score.

On the next play Porzingis on Copeland and Chris dribbles the ball out of bounds. Zinger gets the ball in the post and pitches it out for a three. Then on the next Knick possession, he gets the ball in transition and scores again. Here is your window to the future.

After a pair of Lopez free throws, they’re up by 20. Maybe the Brandy Alexander is on time, because Christmas has come early!

Porzingis gets the ball wide open at the top and nails a three!

With 4:35 left, Derrick Williams comes back into the game for the first time. Oaq enters as well. And before I can finish that, DW launches and misses a three.

Monroe stays in the game and tries to cut the lead. But Galloway hits a pair of threes, and Williams draws a foul to keep the Knick afloat.

O’Quinn attempts a three pointer with the shot clock expiring. It came about as close to the rim as if I had shot it.

4Q
90-73, Knicks. I still need some time to process this.

Williams starts it off with a slam. Then goes coast to coast to draw a foul on Copeland. He. Doesn’t. Pass. Ever.

Williams takes another shot. I’m curious what his usage will be when the dust settles.

After a Galloway three, Derrick Williams with a blind side block. New York up 98-79 with just under 9 minutes to go. I don’t think we’ll see the starters again…

Nope I’m wrong. They’re back in with the lead cut to 15. They are Melo, Vujacic, and Porzingis. No Rolo.

Williams cares not if starters are in or not, and takes (and makes) another 3.

Kristaps can’t secure another defensive rebound. Pumpkin buddy. Pumpkin.

Ok now it’s an 18 point lead with 4:41 to go. Why is Carmelo in the game in the first of back-back games? Fisher?!?!

Porzingis holds his ground against Monroe and forces a miss. I think I just noticed he’s playing center. But one thing I’ve kept my eyes on: Porzingis’ is solid defensively when he stays on his feet.

It’s a 17 point lead with 3:02 to go. Why is Carmelo Anthony in? This is the only thing I can think about it. Why???

And Melo now comes out. :-/

The real basketball in this game is over…

73 replies on “Game 1 Notes: Knicks 122 Bucks 97”

That will probably be the best article about the game I read today. Too bad every time I switched from the WS the Knicks were in commercials or heading to one, I missed a fun game (and watched a dreadful one).

Kristaps on the half court trap is like having a windmill come to life and attack you.

Great line.

Look, I’m trying to keep my expectations modest, but there were a lot of flashes of quality basketball last night. Sustainable quality. Sure, the Zinger will have plenty of bad nights this year, and maybe next, but man, did he not show a lot of his potential last night or what? On O he’s already a matchup problem, and his D could be special. Did anyone see where a guy drove by him and he recovered and was back between his man and the basket in like four steps? Being huge and quick is so rare. A year of pumpkin training which helps him add two bounds per game just by holding onto the ball, and he’s going to be a statsheet filler.

And did anyone see not only the hard foul by O’Quinn, but that one crosscourt pass out of bounds? True Oakley all the way!

Four observations from last night’s game —
– Fears of Porzingis being “soft” appear to be totally unfounded. He needs to bulk up and he gets bounced around a lot, but he does not seem to be all reluctant or unable to mix it up.
– With Lopez, O’Quinn and Porzingis, the Knicks will always have at least one guy in the game who is willing to, and somewhat capable of, clogging up the lane and protecting the rim. I can’t remember the last time that was the case with the Knicks.
– The Knicks appear to have more good athletes on the team than at any time in recent memory.
– Greg Monroe looks like he is in much better shape than he was last year.

That was the kind of team performance I was imagining when I predicted this team to exceed expectations and make the playoffs this year. I think we’re in that 7th to 8th best team mix.

If nothing else, it will make draft day marginally less painful.

OK, maybe it exceeded my expectations 🙂

But I think this is a well thought out collection of players. I’m excited to watch a team that may not suck, may occasionally look very good, and will at least provide me entertainment value this year.

Also, it’s obviously way early to say this, but with Zinger, Okafor, Towns, Mudiay, Johnson, Turner, maybe Hezonja, Russell, and WCS, this year’s draft could be one of the best in the last 20 years. We didn’t get lucky with our pick, but we got lucky to totally suck in the right year.

This is what I’ve been waiting for. We are finally back to the position we were in before we gutted the team in the Melo trade. We have a bunch of very likable players that are working hard, trying to get better, playing team ball, and VERY easy to root for. I can sit through a couple of years of development on the way to building a contender and fully enjoy this. No more JR Smith. No more idiot crap. We have a team!

I know there’s going to be inevitable teeth gnashing about DWill’s contract. Basically going from “I can’t believe we gave him a player option, he’s gonna opt in and eat up cap space” to “I can’t believe we gave him a player option, he’s gonna opt out and go somewhere else or get a big contract and eat up more cap space!” But it doesn’t bother me. He’s on the team now and he may not be if he wasn’t given that player option. And if he does as well as he did last night all season he will absolutely be worth a contract extension and more money. He’s still so young in his career if he does this consistently we will have basically found another really good basketball player just beginning to enter his prime. Him, Grant, Zinger, Oquinn (I’ll even be nice and throw in Early) are the future! People will moan about how Phil could have locked him up longer and we won’t be able to improve this off season in FA as much but if he is this good then he could still get better in other areas and we have enough youth that has room to improve that it might be more about keeping the core together and letting them grow as a team than needing to add some big time FA.

I know, I know. One game against a depleted team (we were missing a starter too though). No need to get ahead of myself. But damn its nice to dream again!

That was an entertaining game to watch. I do wonder 3 things though:
1. How much confidence does Melo REALLY have in that knee? It was great that he found other ways to contribute (rebounds, assists, better than normal defense). But being the great scorer that he is, I expected him to do what KP was doing- draw fouls when the jumper isn’t falling. Throughout the season, there are gonna be games where Galloway and Williams aren’t good money. Where the team as a whole has an off shooting night. I just hope Melo’s gains more confidence in that knee soon
2. Can Williams sustain that kind of energy over 82 games? WOW! He was a whirlwind!
3. Why Thomas over Early?

Kyle O’Quinn is most likely gonna end up being my favorite player on the team. He’s solid. I wonder why he didn’t get consisted PT in Orlando.

AWESOME read Mike!!!! Man I missed this notes!!!

“Oaq scores from the blocks with 3 on him. Where were you in 1993?”

“Oaq just thwacked Bayless on a fast break drive that looked like something the Iron Sheik would have pulled. The Buck announcers say he reminds them of … Charles Oakley.”

I kept telling this to my 15 and 11 years old sons! Both of them are playing basketball, 15 yrs old is 6′ already and my 11 yrs old is 5’8″. Both play Center and PF, I kept telling them to watch closely Oaq’s game…except for the 3 point shot!

We didn’t get lucky with our pick, but we got lucky to totally suck in the right year.

If you suck in almost all of them, eventually…

That Nets team sucks bad. They are going to be awful for many years.

And Celtics fans will enjoy every minute of it

Also, it’s obviously way early to say this, but with Zinger, Okafor, Towns, Mudiay, Johnson, Turner, maybe Hezonja, Russell, and WCS, this year’s draft could be one of the best in the last 20 years. We didn’t get lucky with our pick, but we got lucky to totally suck in the right year.

And lucky that it’s the one pick we didn’t trade or swap.

The league making it impossible to trade consecutive first round picks might be the only thing that saved us from two decades of complete failure.

Anyone catch the Lakers/Wolves game? Some dude in a Ricky Rubio costume was draining pretty jumpshots all over the court.

Mike – I am loving the “Oaq” nickname. And I’m pretty sure OQuinn would too. And probably the real Oak also. let’s get that started!!

Tip of the cap to the unexpectedly decent Sasha Vujacic last night, who mixed together a very nice all around game aside from some problems on defense. 6 boards, 3 assists, 4(!) steals-that’s good work. And no turnovers

maybe the one blemish from an otherwise outstanding game all over was calderon… he did not look good at all… and it looks like jerian’s probably going to be starting in the not so distant future…

Atlanta looked sluggish as shit in their first game, so I think this might be a surprisingly decent matchup tonight. Teague and Schroder are tough covers, though.

@swiftabundant

GMs have one job: stuff as much talent under the cap as possible. Unless you foresee Derrick Williams being worth more than the max, it won’t be possible to sign him to a new contract where he makes any less than he’s worth. In fact, we very well might OVERPAY him. I still hold that, given the Knicks are not going to be a great team this year and so single year gains are relatively meaningless, the Williams contract was like buying a stock under a condition where if it goes up, you’re forced to re-buy it at its new price, and if it goes down, you’re forced to hold it.

There was a price that would have motivated D-Will to take a longer deal or even take a team option. Such a deal at least would have had the potential to help Jackson do better at his job — fit more talent under the cap.

The same could be said for Galloway. If you believe in him, give him a 3 or 4 year deal, even if it means paying him an extra couple million a year. Instead he gets to be a restricted for agent next year. The money we spent on Affalo could have easily been used to secure both these guys long term.

And yeah, there was flop potential. They both could have been busts. I know people here would have flipped their shit at $24m for Derrick Williams. But the alternative is you end up with guys who, even if they are valuable contributors on the court, they’re contracts preclude them from actually helping you reach your goal.

Hell, 3 years is all the contracts would need to be in order to lock in bird rights, at which point the cap probably doesn’t matter anymore.

Thinking with this hand picked Zen master dream team…where all are in sinc with the B-Ball gods…. ….now when the Knicks go up by 17 it really means they’re up by 17. I was waiting for the 19 point comeback [habit]……then I was comfortable it was going to be a lock of at least 17 …then they won by 20. Didn’t degenerate into iso, then matador D , then chuck it ….. Saw…..only one instance Melo was going to get his….1 on 3…..and didn’t…..
Giddy times……might get my knee scoped today.

Lot of good things to like in the game. The team from the last few years would have let the home team back in, forcing Melo to play 38 minutes. Last night the 2nd unit was so dominant, the home team couldn’t get back into it. At this rate, the team might actually look good on those weekend matinees…

I was surprised the scouting report on MCW was so poor. If there is one thing he can do is get to the basket and draw contact. Then again, I guess it sets the tone that they intend to pressure guards. Will be interesting to see what the Atlanta and Washington backcourt matchups will be like. Calderon is just going to look bad defensively, but I think he will be a 24 minutes a game starter.

Vujacic looks like he might actually be decent backcourt depth when the team is healthy.

Long way to go, and I am sure we will have plenty of stinkers, but it is a likable group.

Hello everyone I’ve read this blog forever this is my first post though. First of all, any game Melo goes 3 for 14 and we blow out a playoff team, I feel good about. My humble observations, vujacic is a better defender than I remember, his shot doesn’t look as rusty as I feared. I’m one of the few who loved the zinger pick from the jump, and I think 15 pig 5 rbi 3 ast and 1.5 blk is very attainable for him th8s year. He gets to the line, his length is a major problem and for his size he moves well. O Quinn is gonna be a cornerstone of this team, he’s such a smart player, and I honestly think jerian grant is gonna be our starter before the seasons over. Thanks for reading and I’d love to hear your feedback.

That was fun!!! It seems clear that what we saw in the preseason (with the exception of Melo’s shooting percentage) has carried over into the games that count.

1. The second unit is really good at changing the pace of the game. Oak, D-Will & G&G play really well together and are just a lot of fun to watch. Galloway and D-Will are shooting lights out and it seems that D-Will is really poised to have a break-out season. The guy just knows how to score! I’m falling in love with the “Bearded Oak”. The guy is a solid defender, good passer and has a decent touch of his shot.
2. “Hairnet” ain’t all that bad! I really didn’t like his game when he was a Lakers and wondered what the heck Phil was doing when this signing was announced. However, he looks like he is in great shape and really comfortable in this system. In the limited role that he’ll be asked to play by the Knicks, it looks like a really good acquision.
3. Krispy is gonna be alright! Playing alongside Melo was the right move. I like that Melo is looking for him too! Once he got over the yips, he did some really good things on the court last night. If he learns to stay on his feet on defense, he can be REALLY disruptive on that end.

Looking forward to seeing what happens tonight!

Teague is gonna murder calderon, we need to give Galloway minutes and let him shadow Teague some advanced d stat efg, I believe showed Galloway as an elite man defender last year, I like Melo and zinger against Millsap and Harford should be a close game either way

Jerian Grant – 10 points, 5 assists, 3 steals and ZERO turnovers. A great first game by the rook even considering the Bucks depleted roster. Porzingis had his moments too, loved the 3 off the assist from Melo from straight on. If he’s hitting from long range consistently he will be a really tough matchup. KOQ is solid, does a lot of the dirty work, a terrific pickup for the Knicks. So far so good, let’s keep it rolling against Atlanta tonight. This will be a tougher test.

Jerian Grant – 10 points, 5 assists, 3 steals and ZERO turnovers. A great first game by the rook even considering the Bucks depleted roster.

Meh, he’s just another Toney Douglas, I’d rather have TH Jr.

The thing about hitting on Derrick Williams and Langston Galloway is that it’s like having hit on a first round pick in 2011 and 2014 to go along with our two first round picks in 2015. Add in Kyle O’Quinn, and that’s your 2o12 first round talent. If Seraphin is any good, there’s the 2010 pick. What makes it even better is that they have all had humbling experiences in the NBA and know they have to work hard if they want to have longer careers. Between O’Quinn, D-Will, Galloway, Grant, and Porzingis, the Knicks have five good young basketball players to add to a veteran corps of Melo, Afflalo, Lopez, and (hopefully) Calderon. 43 wins, people. Believe in it.

Agreed, for sure. Meant to preface with “if” and “as of today, it looks like.” Gotta like our chances in New York with the Mets’ success and the FitzMagic in the air, though.

We haven’t hit on Derrick Williams or Langston Galloway yet.

I think we’ve hit on Langston as a rotation player, for sure. Even if he’s never better than an eighth man — and I think/hope he will prove to be more — that’s not a bad outcome for a late lottery pick (in the ’14 draft, our pick — which the Sixers used on Dario Saric — wound up being 12th). So if you pretend Galloway was our pick that year, and he never gets better than he is right now, that’s acceptable.

I’ll be pissed with wherever our/Toronto’s 2016 pick lands, even though I believe we’ll have a better record than the Nuggets (and, therefore, the pick swap aspect from the Melo trade doesn’t matter), but that’s water under a very tall, injury-prone bridge.

I woke up this morning and thought I had dreamed that game. No way everything breaks right for the Knicks in reality like it did last night.

A roster full of likeable, skilled, high-energy players. Young guys who are on the upward swing part of their career trajectories. Not just Porzingis and Grant, but also D Williams and O’Quinn and Galloway… if we’re going to have a team that isn’t competing for a championship, I want to watch kids who compete and have the chance to get better.. and we have that!

Very excited about all of it. Also, no way to avoid the Oakley comparisons for O’Quinn — his body looks like a mirror image of the Oakman, it’s kind of amazing. Was very impressed with his banging down low but also.. a couple of real sweet outlet passes.

We haven’t hit on Derrick Williams or Langston Galloway yet.

I think we’ve hit on Langston as a rotation player, for sure. Even if he’s never better than an eighth man — and I think/hope he will prove to be more — that’s not a bad outcome for a late lottery pick (in the ’14 draft, our pick — which the Sixers used on Dario Saric — wound up being 12th)

Oh, definitely. I’m a huge Galloway fan. I think he’ll turn out to be a legit above average NBA player. But the jury is still out on that one.

But the jury is still out on that one.

I think the jury is still out on his ceiling. We’ve established by now that his floor (excellent defender, albeit shorter than ideal, streaky shooter) is very playable in today’s game.

Cautiously optimistic about this team, but we should also remember we beat Cleveland in Cleveland last year in game 1. But like even Isola tweeted, this feels different somehow.

I’m really interested to see how this team develops defensively. So much of what happened last night was a product of Milwaukee’s guards being awful, but I think we have legitimately reasonable defensive players now. I think Porzingis and Lopez will be very difficult to score on inside, and Oaq is going to be one of the best bargains and best backup F/C’s in the league. Galloway is a good defender, and I think Grant will at least end up being average.

Speaking of Grant – I was just so impressed with him last night. He has vision and anticipation that you just can’t teach. He may not have the upside of Mudiay but I’m not sure that for this team, he isn’t a better fit.

Will be very interesting to see how Mudiay develops. In the back of my mind I see an alternate universe in which we drafted Mudiay at 4 and Bobby Portis at 19 rather than KP and Grant. I’m feeling pretty good about actual reality today.

Meanwhile – Okafor with 26/7 and 8 turnovers on 16 shots. Still feel like we probably dodged a bullet there.

In the back of my mind I see an alternate universe in which we drafted Mudiay at 4 and Bobby Portis at 19 rather than KP and Grant. I’m feeling pretty good about actual reality today.

I’ve thought a fair amount about that reality, too. I suspect we’d have been better off in the short term going with that other version, but the near term with the guys we got seems pretty promising, and Porzingis’ ceiling is so much higher than Mudiay’s that I have no regrets.

I get it but I just think getting Williams here was a big deal and good find. And here’s the thing, everyone is scared with the cap going up and how Lin left us that Williams is going to do the same. But if you went to a team/coach/gm/system that completely changed your career for the better, wouldn’t you want to stay? Most players when they like their situation, they try to stay. Not saying we won’t have to re up on Williams next year if he continues to do what he did last night. But just that I’m ok with it. He’s young enough that even a bigger/longer salary will not destroy us unless he just gives up and regresses. But I think the issues about his attitude/work ethic were way overblown. He was just in bad situations and acclimating to the NBA.

Galloway is already an elite man defender and a competent scorer, I’ll take that. Grant will Avg 10 ast a game per 36 without blinking . This is the best Corp since ewing oak mason, dwill needed a system that utilized his skills rather than have him stand in the corner jacking treys, and kudos to fish for letting them run despite immense front office pressure to institute the triangle.

Cautiously optimistic about this team, but we should also remember we beat Cleveland in Cleveland last year in game 1.

Actually it was game 2. Game 1 I was at unfortunately, a pasting by the Bulls at MSG.

Anyone else notice vujacic, in addition to the balanced stat line, gave Middleton fits trying to score? One afflalo is back with him Galloway and vujacic well have some at least decent perimeter d

we should also remember we beat Cleveland in Cleveland last year in game 1. But like even Isola tweeted, this feels different somehow.

It isn’t a stat-based observation, but…could that difference be chemistry? Every time they cut to the bench, half the team was STANDING and cheering. Like, real enthusiasm, the kind of joy you had as a kid playing the game. It’s early, and people will settle down, but that seems to indicate real happiness to be playing together, something sustainable. And that has so much effect on people’s energy on the court.

Porzingis’ ceiling is so much higher than Mudiay’s that I have no regrets.

The Zinger’s ceiling is higher than almost any other human’s!

Porzingis’ ceiling is so much higher than Mudiay’s that I have no regrets.

Not only his ceiling I’m starting to think his floor is 2nd level..lol if he gets even 6 ft attempts a game that’s an easy 16 ppg for him, and he will block shots not just disrupt once he gets his timing, I suspect O’Quinn will play a role there

Am I the only one that wants the lineup to be grant,afflalo,melo,zinger and oquinn, with rolo leading a monster bench?

I am really enthused. Win or lose, I know I will enjoy watching the Knicks this season — the player development and potential is a real draw.

However, I can’t understand the coaching sometimes. If it’s not Fishers fault, then maybe an assistant? Maybe it’s the players not studying up enough? It just truly annoyed me to see Bucks players open at the 3 line. At the same time, I could not fathom why we were crowding MCW (is there a player that shoots worst than him? MKG? Rondo?).

I know there’s talk of “less teaching” this year, but I imagine this falls under scouting. You could guard MCW from the paint. And I swear, Melo could be a whole new player on the offensive end this year. He could see rises in his assist rate, or even hockey assist rate from eyeballin’ it. But for God’s sake put a freaking hand up on defense. He has to be the worst 3 point line defender in the entire game.

By the way, just in case you were starting to think that we were the only ridiculously optimistic fan base, you should go to a Nets website. I checked out a fan thread on last night’s 115-100 loss to the Bulls. Most people were “really encouraged” by their showing and many thought that the Nets could end up as high as a 6 seed this year. There were quite a few comments about our old punching bag, Bargs, and NONE were negative. There were a lot of “great pickup,” “surprisingly solid defender and rebounder,” and “his 3 point shooting will really space the floor” comments. There was even one, “I see him as a real difference-maker.” Actually, there was one semi-negative comment — “Yeah, but let’s see if he can stay healthy.”

Am I the only one that wants the lineup to be grant,afflalo,melo,zinger and oquinn, with rolo leading a monster bench?

I think Lopez is better suited to play alongside Melo and Zinger, and especially for however long Calderon is our starting point. He’s a more reliable defender at this point (though I like Oaq a ton already), and fits better with some of the slower players in our starting lineup, whereas Oaq’s skills, particularly the oulet passes, are perfect for when Williams, Galloway, et al are on the floor.

@47, was it your impression that the Bargs “love” was b/c they got him for nothing whereas the Knicks traded a #1 pick and a cult favorite in Novak to get him? That and perhaps it is a board that goes by eyetest and PPG.

Cautiously optimistic about this team, but we should also remember we beat Cleveland in Cleveland last year in game 1.

Actually it was game 2. Game 1 I was at unfortunately, a pasting by the Bulls at MSG.

It was, however, Lebron’s first game back in Cleveland. The national media was there. Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith were joking about how the Knicks did not belong on the same floor as the Cavs.

That win was the high water mark of a dreadful season.

I couldn’t believe how well Sasha played. Every single Knick guard hustled and played smart (unfortunately Calderon can’t hustle his way into passable D) yesterday. Melo missed some shots but played fine, my only complaint was Rolo. He got bodied off the boards by Monroe multiple times and had a habit of defending the first attempt but then quitting on the play.

Hello everyone I’ve read this blog forever this is my first post though. First of all, any game Melo goes 3 for 14 and we blow out a playoff team, I feel good about. My humble observations, vujacic is a better defender than I remember, his shot doesn’t look as rusty as I feared. I’m one of the few who loved the zinger pick from the jump, and I think 15 pig 5 rbi 3 ast and 1.5 blk is very attainable for him th8s year. He gets to the line, his length is a major problem and for his size he moves well. O Quinn is gonna be a cornerstone of this team, he’s such a smart player, and I honestly think jerian grant is gonna be our starter before the seasons over. Thanks for reading and I’d love to hear your feedback.

Welcome. Nice posts. This team kind of reminds me of the 2010-2011 team, pre-Melo. Except I think this one is better defensively. Long athletic creative PF as a high draft pick. Coach who stresses ball movement. Under the radar talent who move the ball. One veteran “superstar” type to take/ make big shots.

Such a brief flicker of hope. I think we lost like 8 in a row after that and it was obvious it was going to be an ugly, ugly season. And then it got uglier!

JK47
November 3, 2014 at 11:51 am
You could also dump JR to the Sacramento Kings for the useless Derrick Williams’ expiring contract. Sacto might actually go for that, since their guard rotation is pitiful.

Are you Phil Jackson?

I wouldn’t trade Porzingis for any of the current draft other than Towns. I wouldn’t trade Grant for Mudiay.

Seriously, Mudiay’s upside may be higher than Grant’s, but he has a very long road to travel if he wants to be more than one of those fool’s gold type players. He will lift your offense from shit to smelly because he’ll eat lots of shots while creating some opportunities for others, but as soon as you try to go from mediocre to good on offense, he becomes a burden because he HAS to have the ball, and his shooting limitations and propensity for shooting all the damn time are going to cause your idiot owner to overpay to keep him and are eventually going to become burdensome.

You can’t have a dynamic offense with Mudiay. It always has to be him attacking, and smart defenses will take advantage of his shooting deficiency. And yeah, I know all dudes at that age have flaws. But Mudiay may be the worst shooting guard to be drafted in the lottery in the last 20 years.

And yeah… Wall has similar strengths and weaknesses. But Wall was a significantly better shooter coming in and a significantly better athlete. If Mudiay grows as Wall has, he’ll still be worthless from outside 10′, and he won’t be able to create as many random transition baskets.

Now, Grant can’t shoot either, but he’s a lot closer to becoming a 3 point threat than Mudiay is or will likely ever be.

Now, Grant can’t shoot either

I’m not sure if I exactly agree, Max. I mean, he may never be Kyle Korver but don’t you think he’ll finish around the rim efficiently? Also, as a decision maker, he’s clearly pass first. He’s going to take 10 or fewer and I imagine there’ll be a ton of make-able looks. I see a lot of 4-7’s for Jerian and I can picture his stroke looking favorable compared to the Rose’s, MCW’s, Rondo’s, (and maybe Muddiay’s) of the world. No?

One thing I like about Grant is that he takes care of the ball. He rarely makes foolish passes and usually plays under control and within himself. I think he’ll be a solid pro even if he’s only a mediocre shooter.

One thing I like about Grant is that he takes care of the ball. He rarely makes foolish passes and usually plays under control and within himself. I think he’ll be a solid pro even if he’s only a mediocre shooter.

Word

I wouldn’t trade Porzingis for any of the current draft other than Towns. I wouldn’t trade Grant for Mudiay.

Also word.

Honestly at this point idk if I’d trade him for anybody in this draft period. His agility and skills at that size are absolutely once in a lifetime type stuff. He has a long path to reaching the potential he has, but damn it’s scary what he could become when you start projecting out a little bit. Let’s hope for once things work out for us.

There were a couple plays last night where Porzingis got fouled and couldn’t finish where you could easily imagine a bulked up Porzingis 2 years from now going through contact and finishing with authority.

I unfortunately didn’t get to see what I imagine was an extremely exciting game. The stupid bar I was at wouldn’t give me one tv with the game on it. Every one had to have the world series on. I can’t wait to watch them play tonight with a rocking MSG as a backdrop. You guys have me super excited for tonight.

Do we have a superstitious chant we’re supposed to do before games this season? KOQ KOQ?

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