Knicks Morning News (2015.10.21)

  • [New York Post] Jose Calderon’s healthy and expecting a better Year 2 with Knicks (Wed, 21 Oct 2015 04:00:33 -0400)

    Jose Calderon smiled and pointed to his head. Asked if he thinks at age 34 he has lost a step, Calderon said: "I don't think I lost a step. I'm…

  • [New York Times] Griffin Leads Clippers to 130-95 Rout of Warriors (Wed, 21 Oct 2015 05:21:37 GMT)

    Blake Griffin scored 23 of his 29 points in the first half to lead the Los Angeles Clippers to a 130-95 win against the Golden State Warriors in a preseason game Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Westbrook Leads Thunder to 113-102 Victory Over Jazz (Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:33:50 GMT)

    Russell Westbrook scored 21 points as the Oklahoma City Thunder closed out their preseason with a 113-102 win over the Utah Jazz. The four-time All-Star had a triple-double with 10 rebounds and 10 assists.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Basketball: Escort Discusses Louisville Case (Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:29:08 GMT)

    An escort who claimed that a former member of the coaching staff hired her to strip for and have sex with recruits and players said she had no proof that Coach Rick Pitino knew of her activities.

  • [New York Times] Morris Helps Suns Rout Spurs 104-84 (Wed, 21 Oct 2015 02:54:40 GMT)

    Markieff Morris had 17 points and the Phoenix Suns had four others in double figures, outrunning the San Antonio Spurs 104-84 on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Carter-Williams Helps Bucks Pull Away From T-Wolves 106-88 (Wed, 21 Oct 2015 02:42:58 GMT)

    Khris Middleton scored 17 points, Michael Carter-Williams added 16 and the Milwaukee Bucks pulled away in the third quarter for a 106-88 win on Tuesday night over the Minnesota Timberwolves.

  • [New York Times] Brooks, Bulls Beat Pacers (Wed, 21 Oct 2015 02:31:18 GMT)

    Aaron Brooks scored 22 points to lead the Chicago Bulls to a 103-94 win over the Indiana Pacers in a preseason game Tuesday night. Paul George had 26 and 13 rebounds for the Pacers.

  • [New York Daily News] James Dolan says Isiah Thomas won’t ever return to Knicks (Wed, 21 Oct 2015 01:48:18 GMT)

    For the welfare of his good buddy, Jim Dolan says he’s not letting Isiah Thomas return to the Knicks.

  • 13 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2015.10.21)”

    From Zach Lowe’s watchabilty columns:

    I can’t wait for New York fans to throw their remotes at the television when the Hawks turn Hardaway into a real player.

    Hope that couch is real comfy Zach

    DRed left out the last line of that paragraph:

    (Note: This may take two years, and Jerian Grant looks good.)

    If Grant turns into what we’re hoping, I honestly don’t care if Bud miraculously unlocks other skills that Hardaway has never demonstrated in his time as an NBA player.

    And Zach ranked us 15th in his watchability column, which is in line with what most of us have been saying here: it’s unclear whether the Knicks will be good or not, but they’ll be fun. Seems fair all around.

    You can’t turn lead into gold. You can probably make Timmy better-if you have a team that gets him more open looks his shooting % will improve. But he’s terrible at every other facet of the game and spurs magic is going to make him good? But not this year, in two years? Give me a fucking break.

    I mean that’s the ultimate hedge. He’s such a fucking pussy in his writing. Give an opinion and stop hedging it for every possible outcome.

    Knicks fans will be upset because THJ might be good, but they also got Jerian Grant for him who looks good and even if THJ becomes good it could take a couple of years, by which point everybody will have forgot I ever said this, but there is a future universe where Knicks fans are upset that the Knicks traded THJ and Budenholzer made him look like a plus rotation player.

    Just shitty writing and analysis from a guy who I used to like a lot more than I did since the start of last season.

    Lowe’s take on the Knicks’ “watchability” in its entirety —
    “This is too high in pure basketball terms, but the Knicks have Mike Breen, Walt Frazier, fun celebrity fans, a mysterious giant rookie, and a superstar who can erupt into must-see hot streaks that mix all shot types — quick-release 3s, jab-steppy midrangers, and bruising step-throughs. One lost half-season and it feels like people have forgotten what an offensive powerhouse Carmelo Anthony can be. He is a force. He radiates gravity. When he holds the ball, he controls the behavior of everyone else on the floor.
    The Knicks are the last triangle holdouts, and every game is a mini-referendum on how the system is goink in the modern NBA. It’s fun when the camera holds on Derek Fisher and you have to decide whether he is dead, sleeping with his eyes open, blatantly disinterested, or a robot that Phil Jackson controls from above. The Knicks have a lot of comic material: Robin Lopez’s remorseless war on mascots; Kyle O’Quinn’s beard and fancy passing; Derrick Williams’s blond dreadlocks; Snakey the Snake; and the return of Sasha Vujacic. How did the NBA survive without his girlish hair and random feuds?
    Jerian Grant plays a fast, heady pick-and-roll game and Cleanthony Early had moments in preseason. Hope!”

    Yeah, the only way I can see Timmy becoming “better” is if he just sits out there and does nothing but take open threes. Which might be possible with that Hawks offense. But they’re not going to change the fact that he doesn’t do anything else well.

    I think the real question is will ATL regret letting John Jenkins go in FA. I wanted the Knicks to use their exception on him but oh well.

    “Yeah, the only way I can see Timmy becoming “better” is if he just sits out there and does nothing but take open threes.”
    I think that I’m one of the few here who doesn’t think that THJ is a lost cause. There’s a chance that he becomes a solid rotation player. However, even if he does, I won’t be ready to throw the remote at the TV unless Grant turns out to be a bust. If Grant turns out to be pretty good, that’s still a good trade.

    I think that from an Atlanta Hawks fan point of view, THJ better show promise and improve. Not only did they give up a draft pick that turned into a promising point guard, but they also passed on Jenkins, who seems likely to shoot much better than THJ. But they did see much more of Jenkins than we did, so they might have a good reason for that.

    Hardaway’s upside is a little better than peak Jamal Crawford. He could become a potent 6th man scoring option off the bench but not much more.

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