Knicks Morning News (2015.02.01)

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks’ Carmelo Anthony may woo free agent All-Stars (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 04:11:03 GMT)

    Phil Jackson won’t be the only Knicks representative pitching to free agents this offseason, it seems.

  • [New York Daily News] Langsanity will meet Linsanity when Knicks face Lakers (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 03:05:18 GMT)

    Carmelo Anthony described Langston Galloway’s impact on the Knicks as something akin to “Linsanity” when Jeremy Lin was making headlines.

  • [New York Times] Golden State Warriors Snap 2-Game Skid, Eclipse Suns 106-87 (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 07:21:10 GMT)

    The Golden State Warriors have been rolling so much this season that the halftime locker room can be awfully quiet if they’re not leading by a lot.

  • [New York Times] Love Booed Loudly by Fans in His Return to Minnesota (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 06:09:01 GMT)

    Kevin Love expected to be booed by Timberwolves fans in his first game back in Minnesota since he was traded to Cleveland last summer.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Hawks Surrender Lead but Not Winning Ways (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 05:53:36 GMT)

    Al Horford scored 23 points and the Atlanta Hawks recovered after squandering a 21-point lead to beat the 76ers and stretch their franchise-record winning streak to 19 games.

  • [New York Times] Griffin Scores 31 Points, Clippers Beat Spurs 105-85 (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 05:15:12 GMT)

    Blake Griffin had 31 points and 13 rebounds, and the Los Angeles Clippers rolled to a 105-85 victory over San Antonio on Saturday night, snapping the Spurs’ six-game home winning streak.

  • [New York Times] Gay Scores 31, Kings Snap Losing Streak, Beat Pacers 99-94 (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 05:15:03 GMT)

    The Sacramento Kings used free throws to survive a cold start until their shooting heated up and they put an end to their eight-game losing skid.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: N.B.A. Great Aids Campaign (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 05:02:26 GMT)

    The Hall of Famer Oscar Robertson is among the investors in a group that wants to legalize marijuana use in Ohio, the organizers of the campaign announced.

  • [New York Times] LeBron Makes Love a Winner in Return to Minnesota, 106-90 (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 05:00:11 GMT)

    The boos were raining down on Kevin Love and his 3-pointer wasn’t falling in the building he used to call home.

  • [New York Times] Cody Zeller Scores 21, Hornets Rout Nuggets 104-86 (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 04:33:10 GMT)

    Cody Zeller scored a career-best 21 points, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist had 17 and the Charlotte Hornets routed the reeling Denver Nuggets 104-86 on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Horford, Hawks Extend Streak With 91-85 Win Over 76ers (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 04:24:01 GMT)

    The 76ers’ decision to “let it fly” with 3-pointers almost grounded the Hawks’ winning streak.

  • [New York Times] Bucks Beat Struggling Trail Blazers 95-88 (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 04:15:01 GMT)

    Jared Dudley scored 18 points and O.J. Mayo had 17 off the bench to help the Milwaukee Bucks beat the struggling Portland Trail Blazers 95-88 on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Randolph Leads Grizzlies Past Thunder 85-74 for 6th Straight (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 04:03:33 GMT)

    Zach Randolph had 21 points and 18 rebounds, and Marc Gasol added 15 points and 12 rebounds to lead the Memphis Grizzlies past the Oklahoma City Thunder 85-74 Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Raptors Win in Overtime Again, Defeat Wizards 120-116 (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 03:51:03 GMT)

    Kyle Lowry scored 23 points and the streaking Toronto Raptors won in overtime for the second consecutive night after losing a large second-half lead, defeating the Washington Wizards 120-116 on Saturday.

  • [New York Times] Pistons Turn Back Smith, Rockets in 114-101 Victory (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 03:24:02 GMT)

    D.J. Augustin had 28 points and 12 assists, and the Detroit Pistons held off former teammate Josh Smith and the Houston Rockets 114-101 on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Ellis Has 25, Mavs Send Magic to 8th Straight Loss, 108-93 (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 03:15:05 GMT)

    Monta Ellis had 25 points and 13 assists as the Dallas Mavericks sent the Orlando Magic to their eighth straight loss, 108-93 on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Love Booed Loudly by Fans in His Return to Minnesota (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 01:57:06 GMT)

    Kevin Love expected to be booed by Timberwolves fans in his first game back in Minnesota since he was traded to Cleveland last summer.

  • [New York Times] Rockets Star Harden Leaves Briefly With Bruised Knee (Sun, 01 Feb 2015 01:51:01 GMT)

    Houston Rockets star James Harden has left in the second quarter against the Detroit Pistons with a bruised left knee, but was able to return at the start of the second half.

  • 64 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2015.02.01)”

    Weird not having an NBA game on national television before the Super Bowl. But I’m pretty sure sports fans would rather watch 3 more hours of pre-game analysis than Knicks-Lakers or Celtics-Heat.

    Weird not having an NBA game on national television before the Super Bowl. But I’m pretty sure sports fans would rather watch 3 more hours of pre-game analysis than Knicks-Lakers or Celtics-Heat.

    As a Knicks fan, I’d rather watch the Knicks.

    As a sports fan in general…I’ll pass on all of them. The pre-pre-pre-pre-pregame show is just one too many pre’s for me.

    That alley-oop mightve been the most athletic play Ive seen Melo make in a Knicks uniform.

    Jah is featured on three of our four highlights of the season, the other one being that nasty put-down on an offensive rebound by Galloway in his second game:

    – Angry confrontation with LeBron
    – Today alley-oop from Jah to gimpy but springy Melo
    – Galloway’s triple against Philly (Jah’s shot got blocked and recovered for the clutch shot by Langston)

    Maybe we should send Jah to the lottery?

    Melo is definitely in his decline phase haha. They’d be lucky to get a late first rounder for him.

    Yup. But Byron Scott is stupid as ever in defending him with Tarik Black (nice effort guy, but come on). I mean, they’re switching like a Woodson’s team.

    How did we let that stud Wayne Ellington go? Another blunder by the inept Phil Jackson.

    Sorry guys, I for some reason thought that when they dropped the game from national coverage that the time also shifted. My apologies for no game thread.

    I sure do. They know what they’re doing. Lou is a perfect Dickey Simpkins type and Thomas is a Devean George type. They can haz a place in the Triangle.

    So does anyone wanna keep lou and Lance for next year?

    Lou is what he is and on a good team maybe he has a place despite his limitations because he is a great locker room/practice player and gives you energy in the games. Lance may have a chance to be something but it is unlikely. He has poor numbers but his sample size is very small. In his 4 yrs he has compiled less minutes than what a 6th man might total in 1 season. So maybe the Knicks struck gold but he doesn’t even I have a track record of producing at any level besides H.S. maybe.

    So, i guess wait until the end of the year and evaluate after the draft and FA because those two players will most likely be available late in the process then decide if they can be useful.

    o does anyone wanna keep lou and Lance for next year?

    Personally, I’d rather go younger so there’s at least some chance of an upside surprise, but it’s hard to not like these guys. They’d be fine as end of the bench guys that could get minutes when there are injuries.

    No doubt Melo shot the ball very well today but he does not get many easy shots. A lot of his points came from contested mid range jump shots. I dont want to be accused of being a Melo hater, I am not, but I am worried that he may have lost a bit of his first step. Taking 25 shots and only getting to the line 4 times is worrisome. It bears watching at least.

    Playing on a bad knee will certainly impact your ability to get to the basket. If he can’t get to the basket next season after surgery we’re in for a long few years.

    Unfortunately, it appears to me like the Lakers have a real good chance of overtaking everyone in the race for worst record. Without Kobe, that is an awful roster.

    Yeah, but he didn’t want to sign here, so I can’t really complain about it. Green seems oddly really confident in his abilities and only wants to play for good teams, even though good teams have the least amount of room on their rosters to add players. It’s really weird. The guy’s definitely an NBA player, but I’d think he would prefer to play somewhere he can get a lot of minutes.

    That play call is on the Mt. Rushmore of idiotic sports decisions, right up there with Jean van de Velde, Chris Webber, and what, drafting Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan?

    van de Velde is worse, but I can’t think of many other sports decisions worse than that one (and considering the larger stage, it is probably even worse than van de Velde). Here’s a question – if you’re the head coach and you hear that play call, do you have a responsibility to overrule it? Or do you “have” to trust your offensive coordinator?

    I can’t even begin to imagine how this site would be exploding right now if it was called Imagine if Mike Woodson called that pass. Wow.

    Plus, I won’t lie, the ending was so dumb, I think it nicely takes a lot away from the win for New England. First Belichick moronically doesn’t call timeout and practically giftwraps the victory for Seattle and then they needed Seattle to make perhaps the worst play call in the history of the NFL to win.

    The thing about van de Velde is that it went on like forever. Like when the ball was half submerged and hittable but the tide kept rising.

    Oh no doubt, it was a dumber decision bar none. But I think this was one such a bigger stage that it’s possibly “worse” because of that.

    Carroll explains that it was his call. The plan was to waste a throw just to make them think about it while he would then run on third and fourth down. There’s an inkling of logic there, but just an inkling. Of course, the key then is if it is supposed to be a wasted play, why through it into coverage?

    But really, in general, kudos to Carroll for taking the blame and being coherent up there.

    Yeah, and the fact that nobody knew who the hell JvdV was, and he only hurt himself and a very few fans, and nobody begrudged Paul Lawrie, while this blunder killed both millions of Seahawk fans and millions of Pats haters (including me!), not to mention all the betting implications!

    I think I’m still in shock over it. It was that inexplicable. Also, Carroll going on about he didn’t like his chances against their goal line defense. Is he freakin’ kidding?! Lynch was eating them alive out there!! He had just gotten three yards!!

    Yeah, my big problem with the call is that it was dangerous under any circumstances. They had just benefited from a fateful ricochet play, you think they would have learned. In fact, I questioned going downfield on the 2nd and 10, and I questioned when GB went for the home run in the previous game. Why take that kind of risk?

    I suppose Pop taking Duncan out of the end of Game 6 might qualify, but at least I understood that strategy.

    The danger is one thing, but what’s bigger to me is that the likelihood of Lynch getting in one of the three downs they had had to be, what, 92%? Somewhere in that territory, right? When a super-high percentage run play also wins you the Super Bowl, why would you try even a non-dangerous throw?

    The danger is one thing, but what’s bigger to me is that the likelihood of Lynch getting in one of the three downs they had had to be, what, 92%?

    That’s what I thought immediately after the play, the sheer statistical ridiculousness of it. I mean, that is truly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Easily the worst play call in NFL history, and will be difficult for future generations to surpass. The Patriots had no answer for Lynch all day– I doubt they tackled him for a loss more than once or twice in the game. Three attempts with Lynch on the one yard line was absolute money in the bank.

    The duel incompetence from Belichik and Carroll (or Bevel, I guess) at the end of the game was kind of like Ron Washington vs Tony LaRussa, both of them trying to out-dumb each other.

    Yeah, the crazy thing was that the odds of Seattle winning should have been really good but not, like, a 90% lock (up 3 with 50 seconds left is no gimme against New England), but then Belichick didn’t use any timeouts! It was insane! It was like he had just decided, “Oh well, maybe next year.” Who lets the clock run down to 30 seconds in that scenario? It is almost like he saw the future and thought, “Eh, I won’t need the timeouts because they’ll inexplicably throw the ball and one of my guys will intercept it.”

    Credit to the defensive backs Browner and Butler. Browner destroyed the pick and Butler made an excellent jump on the ball to pick it. Very impressive play for a DB.

    If you throw the pass, it should be down so the wr either catches falling down in the end zone of its incomplete pass into the turf. Wilson threw that high and slightly away.

    Bottom line: Give Lynch some skittles then give him the dang ball.

    P.S. Did Lynch contract issue have anything to do with wanting to win with Russel? Also, for some reason I feel Lynch will end up a Patriot this summer.

    Yeah, don’t get me wrong, the Patriots still needed a great play to get the pick, so their defense deserves a ton of credit.

    I had to look up van de Velde. That’s pretty rough.

    Not sure about the decision in today’s Super Bowl game, but since this is a Knicks blog I have to ask the requisite question: How many ping pong balls were at stake?

    The ping pong balls are definitely getting a teensy bit scary now. They’re two ahead of Minny and tied with Philly, but only three back of the Lakers. Then you get Boston, who are seven games ahead of the Knicks, but they are tanking hard and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them get closer soon. Plus there are wild cards like Orlando and (to a lesser degree) Indiana.

    I think top five is still very likely, but damn it, I don’t want top five, I want top two!

    I’m ok with the tank, but I prefer an organic tank much more than a synthetic one, which means that I hope we go into games to win them and we lose because we have less talent than the other team. If we have equal or more talent, I think it’s better if we win games. Derek Fisher needs to hone his coaching skills and to prove (especially to Melo Mega Max, which we’re stuck with) that Phil’s system is the right one to use here. That said, looking at the schedule, I think it’s highly possible we’ll be around 15 wins at the end of March. That’s where we’ll need to tank hard.

    Crazy trade idea: let’s say that we get to Feb.19 and the Thunder are 24-30 (only win against Orlando – losses against Pelicans x 2, Clippers, Memphis, Denver and Dallas), while we are let’s say 12-41 and ahead of Minnesota and Philly in wins, therefore being behind in the great tank race.

    Do you trade Stoudemire and your first for Westbrook and Perkins?

    Spoiler: I don’t. But I won’t be surprised if OKC starts doing crazy things around the deadline if things are really going south for them.

    I was looking around to see who was Rookie of the Month in December 2014 for the Eastern Conference (I fully expect Galloway to be named Rookie of the Month in January 2015), and seeing some of the names I realized how that award says absolutely nothing about the player who receives it.

    Here, some of the winners of the last ten years:

    2013-14: Nick Calathes (good player, yea, but as a 2nd-3rd string PG)
    2012-13: Chris Copeland (sic)
    2011-12: Ivan Johnson
    2010-11: Landry Fields, twice! He was really good as a rookie, though. So it was highly deserved. Still, how the mighty has fallen.
    2009-10: Jonas Jerebko
    2008-09: Michael Beasley, but, well, that was expected at the time.
    2007-08: Yi Jianlian, Jamario Moon
    2006-07: (this is great) Bargnani, twice; Adam Morrison, Jorge Garbajosa, Walter Herrman, Shelden Williams. This is your entire year of the Eastern Conference single month awards. Also in the West: Tarence Kinsey
    2005-06: Felton, thrice! But to be honest, Ray wasn’t always horrible.
    2004-05: Beno Udrih (you have to look at that). Also JR Smith three times in a row, but JR is a good player, he’s just crazy as f*ck.

    What is really incredible is that poor quality on the receiving end of the award is consistent in the East, while in the West it seems like there is always almost one good-to-great star in the making. So you could make the case that the East is weak especially because of poor draft picks, not only by general imbalance of power. I mean, this year is highly likely Wiggins will win the award every month, while in the East we’ll have Galloway as a single month winner, which in ten years will be quite laughable (not because Galloway will be bad, but because Galloway is a role player while Wiggins seems destined to stardom).

    Do you trade Stoudemire and your first for Westbrook and Perkins?

    Knicks can’t trade their 2015, 2016 or 2017 first. It’d have to be their 2018 first.

    I don’t know that I can fault Carroll quite as much as people are faulting him. I have more of a problem with the Seahawks throwing a slant than the actual decision to pass the ball.

    They had only 1 timeout with 20 seconds left. If they run Lynch and he gets stopped they have to call a timeout. Then on third down, with no timeouts remaining, they pretty much have to pass the ball, which gives the Patriots a pretty big informational edge.

    It actually makes perfect sense when you think about it, especially considering the Patriots were stacked to stop the run. I just would have called a pass play less likely to be intercepted, whether by deflection or as it happened in the game. A fade, an out, a crossing pattern in the back of the end zone, or any kind of QB pass/run option.

    But certainly, to not convert there with Lynch and Wilson on the field is pretty brutal. You have to give the Patriots a ton of credit. Getting a play like that from a guy that deep on the depth chart is pretty impressive.

    “Do you trade Stoudemire and your first for Westbrook and Perkins?”
    Setting aside the fact that the rules wouldn’t allow it, I wouldn’t make this trade even though I advocated for the hypothetical “pick for Cousins” trade (although I think that, when I proposed the first pick for Cousins, I also proposed that the Knicks would also get a first round pick back since, if you are proposing trades that won’t happen, you might as well slant them heavily in your favor). The reason is that, while Westbrook is probably a better talent than Cousins, I think that stud centers are tougher to come by than stud point guards. Is Perkins an expiring contract? If not, that’s another reason for not doing that deal.
    Here’s a hypothetical — would you trade Bargnani for a bad contract that someone is trying to dump (say, like $10 million next year) if the team also threw in a pick that will end up around #12-#14 in this year’s draft? I’m not sure if I would do that, but the possibility of that happening might be why he is still on the roster.

    Yeah I think you’re right Owen. Passing the ball on 2nd down there is actually ideal for handling the clock as you either get the TD or stop the clock, then you can run it on 3rd, and worst case scenario, take the timeout afterwards and set up whatever your 1A goalline play is for fourth down. But that specific passing play seems just too high risk. The middle of the field was just so crowded that it seems like you’re almost asking for something crazy to happen. It’s so easy for that ball to get deflected wildly up into the air.

    It’s also perhaps too easy for the coaching insanity to make us lose sight of what the players do, so it merits highlighting that the DB made an amazing play…and that Wilson made a really, really bad throw. The playcall may have been slightly nuts, but if Wilson makes a decent throw there it’s completely forgotten about 15 seconds later. The receiver was open and if Wilson makes the back shoulder throw it is a relatively safe one. Not safe enough to be ideal maybe, but pretty safe. He just threw it to completely the wrong spot.

    Do you trade Stoudemire and your first for Westbrook and Perkins?

    If it was possible (and it’s not), I think Phil would make that trade. How could he not? It gives him Westbrook and Anthony in his hand, and if he’s able to shed Calderon, he’d have enough money to max out Gasol. That’s the best team Phil can even dream of playing in New York during his 4 year tenure.

    But why would OKC make a trade for 5 years from now? When Westbrook and Durant are healthy they are one of the best teams in the league. They will trade Perkins for someone that can help them now, not to blow it up just in time for Durant to opt out.

    But why would OKC make a trade for 5 years from now? When Westbrook and Durant are healthy they are one of the best teams in the league.

    Yeah, unless Durant has some opposition to Westbrook (and all the evidence seems to point to the opposite of that) that trade would be insane for OKC. They clearly have some issues at the moment, but the core of that team is too good for it to make sense for them to reset things. Even if they were to miss the playoffs this year, they can fire Brooks, make a couple small moves and come into next year among the 2 or 3 teams with the best chance to win the title. Because their safe choice has such high upside also they just don’t have the motivation to make a high risk move (unless they have good inside info that Durant is on the way out after next year).

    Whoa, major brain fart by me. Damn you, Ted Stepien! Again, I would have been against my proposal, it was just to fire a little debate, but come on, I can do better that this.

    Seriously though, let’s see what happens in OKC.

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