Knicks Morning News (2015.10.17)

  • [New York Post] Knicks 4-0 in preseason: What does it mean? Fisher responds (Sat, 17 Oct 2015 02:00:32 -0400)

    In topping the Celtics 101-95 at the Garden in their final home preseason game, the Knicks improved to 4-0 and coach Derek Fisher is hopeful that has meaning. With expectations…

  • [New York Post] Hey Chicago, it’s been far too long since our cities have duked it out (Sat, 17 Oct 2015 01:09:20 -0400)

    Hello, old friend. We've let too many miles pass under our feet. Come in, come in: this table's for you, the one with the hot dogs covered in everything we've…

  • [New York Post] Ex-Knick David Lee talks Celtics and finding time to get title ring (Sat, 17 Oct 2015 01:07:45 -0400)

    David Lee has a dilemma. How to get the championship ring for which he waited 11 years? The Warriors will have their ring ceremony Oct 27 against New Orleans —…

  • [New York Post] Why the Knicks’ defense will be more fun to watch this season (Sat, 17 Oct 2015 00:37:42 -0400)

    Derek Fisher hopes the Knicks' sluggish defense will turn around this season because of new personnel, not a new scheme. While the Knicks coach is trying to speed up the…

  • [New York Daily News] Melo’s body and mind healed — and it shows (Sat, 17 Oct 2015 02:42:36 GMT)

    Those closest to Melo have noticed that Anthony has embraced his role as a leader while looking and sounding more optimistic than before.

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] Kyle O'Quinn hopes to 'spark' Knicks with physical play (Sat, 17 Oct 2015 00:43:03 EST)

    Kyle O'Quinn hopes to 'spark' Knicks with physical play

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Basketball: Odom Is Responsive (Sat, 17 Oct 2015 04:25:17 GMT)

    Lamar Odom, a former basketball player and reality television star, has regained consciousness just days after being found unresponsive at a Nevada brothel.

  • [New York Times] Faried, Lauvergne Help Nuggets Beat Suns 106-81 (Sat, 17 Oct 2015 04:09:44 GMT)

    Will Barton had 19 points and 10 rebounds, Gary Harris scored 16 points, and the Denver Nuggets cruised to a 106-81 victory over the Phoenix Suns in a preseason game Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Mack’s Big 2nd Half Helps Hawks Beat Mavericks 91-84 (Sat, 17 Oct 2015 03:24:32 GMT)

    Shelvin Mack scored 11 of his 13 points in the second half, and the Atlanta Hawks beat the Dallas Mavericks 91-84 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] JaMychal Green Leads Grizzlies Past Thunder, 94-78 (Sat, 17 Oct 2015 02:48:43 GMT)

    JaMychal Green scored 18 points, Ryan Hollins added 16 and the Memphis Grizzlies beat the Oklahoma City Thunder 94-78 Friday night in a preseason game missing stars for both teams.

  • [New York Times] Oubre, Gortat Score 16 Each to Lead Wizards Past 76ers (Sat, 17 Oct 2015 02:21:51 GMT)

    Kelly Oubre Jr. and Marcin Gortat scored 16 points each and John Wall had 14 assists as the Washington Wizards cruised to a 127-118 preseason victory over the Philadelphia 76ers on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Williams Leads Unbeaten Knicks Past Celtics, 101-95 (Sat, 17 Oct 2015 02:15:55 GMT)

    Derrick Williams scored 19 points in another strong performance and the New York Knicks beat the Boston Celtics 101-95 on Friday night to remain unbeaten in the preseason.

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    35 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.10.17)”

    1. To my surprise, I recently listened to a podcast that was positive about the Knicks. It was CBS Eye on Basketball and it predicted 41 wins for the Knicks in their Eastern Conference over/under episode.

    2. Sounds like Melo wants the night off on an exhibition back to back. With Porzingis coming back, does Fisher stick with this Lance Thomas goofiness or try starting either Williams or Grant (with Afflalo sliding to 3)?

      Like our second unit a lot. Starting five, partly from injury, partly from backcourt slowness, partly from Zinger newness, hasn’t cohered as well yet.

    3. Every time I start gaining some confidence in Fisher as a coach he raises questions again. What’s the story with Lance Thomas? I can see rewarding him with a spot on the roster given how hard he worked last year and how much they seem to like him in the locker room. But it should be an end of the bench spot. He’s obviously not a rotation player. But Fisher keeps playing him. It was the same thing last year with Jason Smith. I’m not sure he quite grasps who the best players on the team are. Whatever mental model he’s using to evaluate players has a “bug”.

    4. Fisher seems to believe that he shouldn’t mess with other players’ roles, at least in preseason. In a fully healthy roster situation, Lance wouldn’t play, and Sssha wouldn’t play much. But Fisher would rather slot them in for injured starters rather than have the rotation guys change their roles.

      Given the amount of roster turnover and sheer number of guys who’ve never played together before, I at least see where’s he coming from, even though I hate watching Lance play over literally anyone else on the roster, and even though I fear this could carry over into the regular season.

    5. Aw, poor Bargs had a setback in his recovery

      I think Jackson actually had the right little-used word (in basketball, anyway): malingerer. Bargs is practically the definition.

      And Pipe buying and eating cotton candy on the bench….man, this year’s team is so much easier to root for! I’d go all in if Sasha would just lose the headband.

    6. One thing I’m noticing with this team vs. last year’s is we’re actually getting 2nd and 3rd shots on the offensive end. And a lot of that has to do with O’Quinn and Lopez battling underneath for every rebound.

      I’m just really loving those two acquisitions, the toughness level on this team has gone up exponentially.

    7. p-r-e-s-e-a-s-o-n

      The Hornets have a points differential of +18.2. The Cavs are 0-5. The Spurs are 0-3.

      One thing that I am noticing with this team vs. last year’s is that it’s still preseason.

    8. I think Sasha has played well so far overall. He had another good game last night. I have ZERO problem with him coming of the bench.

    9. The Hornets have a points differential of +18.2. The Cavs are 0-5. The Spurs are 0-3.
      One thing that I am noticing with this team vs. last year’s is that it’s still preseason.

      Enjoy it, because this will probably be the biggest and best streak of the season.

      30 wins and Grant doing his best Hardaway Jr. impersonation: high flying young players who look much better than they are.

    10. p-r-e-s-e-a-s-o-n

      The Hornets have a points differential of +18.2. The Cavs are 0-5. The Spurs are 0-3.

      One thing that I am noticing with this team vs. last year’s is that it’s still preseason.

      I don’t care about the wins and losses or point differentials in preseason. All I know is that Lopez and O’Quinn are both tough hombres who battle for boards and play hard nosed defense.

      But you’re right, once the season starts that all goes out the window and they’ll just be big pussies.

    11. One thing that I am noticing with this team vs. last year’s is that it’s still preseason.

      And in the last preseason, we looked terrible at everything. This year, we have players with discernible skills.

      Nobody is fooling themselves into thinking that we’ll be a top playoff seed, or in the playoffs at all. Nobody believes Williams is going to score 19 ppg off the bench. But the team is going to be better and more fun to watch this year, and we’re enjoying that manifesting itself now, even if preseason games don’t count and we’re not really this good.

    12. O’Quinn, Grant , & especially Williams all looked very good. Loved the ball movement, a huge improvement in this area. All the bigs seem to be willing and good passers. What’s with the announcers referring to Cleanthony Early as Anthony? Very confusing when Carmelo is not even in the game. Sasha played pretty well, but needs to lose the headband. Overall a good effort tonight, even if it was preseason.

    13. If Derrick Williams doesn’t lead the NBA in TS% this season I will be disappointed

      What’s a Knicks’ season without a little disappointment?

    14. One thing I’m noticing with this team vs. last year’s is we’re actually getting 2nd and 3rd shots on the offensive end. And a lot of that has to do with O’Quinn and Lopez battling underneath for every rebound.

      I’m just really loving those two acquisitions, the toughness level on this team has gone up exponentially.

      While I hear you there, what I like about O’Quinn and Lopez is that they’re just good players period, ya know? We had to watch so many shitty guys last year that just having actual good players is an absolute delight to watch.

      Speaking of O’Quinn, I’ve seen some talk (not here really) about how silly the Magic were to essentially choose Jason Smith over O’Quinn. While yes, the idea was dumb, I at least sort of get what they are doing, in the sense that they’re trying to maximize their cap space for next year, hoping that they’re improved enough this year that people will want to sign with them, under the theory that they’re a young, upcoming team. So Smith’s one-year deal was more appealing to them than O’Quinn’s multiple year deal. I think that they made the wrong call, but I at least get where they’re coming from. They’re not actually saying, “We like Jason Smith over Kyle O’Quinn,” as nobody would say that, as that would be nonsense.

    15. Preseason wins are meaningless, but that doesn’t mean everything in the preseason is meaningless. Guys learning how to play with each other, stuff like that, that still matters. And I think that the Knicks are doing a good job there. So while yes, winning streaks don’t mean anything, I think it is still fair to look at their performance so far in the preseason and be very encouraged by it.

    16. If I were a Cavs fan, I wouldn’t be too concerned about 0-5, but yesterday’s headline might make me a little nervous– “LeBron Gets Injection in Back.”

    17. I actually saw a headline that was something like, “Cavs Fans Hold Their Breath – Lebron Gets Injection in Back”

    18. One thing that I am noticing with this team vs. last year’s is that it’s still preseason.

      Well, last year it took me, the resident optimist, 3 preseason games to conclude that the Knicks would not make the playoffs, and in fact, to predict a lower win total than THCJ did.

    19. One thing I think is significant about preseason is that everyone is playing hard. That doesn’t have to be the case. And since the team played hard even at the end of last year, I’m hoping that this has something to do with Fisher’s coaching and will continue into the regular season

    20. August 1st I guessed 25-30 wins for this year. Several things look a bit better than I’d expected. Grant’s best case scenario of having significant catalyzing effect on offense doesn’t seem far fetched. DWill seems like he might not be a net negative as I’d assumed. Anthony looks like he’s fully recovered. The overall impression of roster depth makes me less concerned about the impact of inevitable injuries. The cohesive play on both ends makes me less concerned about the impact of lots of rookie pt and new personnel learning to play together. So, even though these are only preseason games and we haven’t seen them against stiff competition yet, I’m revising my guess up to 33-38. I am even more convinced than I was on August 1st that these guys (with the exception of Hairnet) will be a blast to watch.

    21. One thing I’m noticing about this year’s team is they have some real NBA players, unlike last year. Preseason or not they look far better and more talented than last year. Certainly more fun to watch, maybe a fringe playoff team in the east with a little luck and health. Fisher is on the clock to become a good coach.

    22. Porzingis is back. Melo, Lopez, Calderon and O’Quinn won’t play just for rest reasons. In theory, that means we’ll finally get to see Thanasis and the Westchester guys get some run. In practice, I expect lots of Lance Thomas.

      In fact, starters will be Galloway, AA, Thomas, Porzingis, Seraphin.

    23. Early has looked like he has definitely earned a roster spot at the very least. Zinger a little bit rusty, but that was to be expected.

    24. Blow it up. Blow it all up! Fire Jackson, and get rid of Fisher. Trade Melo for a single late 2nd round pick and let’s start over.

    25. I know it’s still preseason, but does anyone here still think that signing Derrick Williams was stupid?

    26. I know it’s still preseason, but does anyone here still think that signing Derrick Williams was stupid?

      I never thought signing him was stupid, but I thought the price paid was too high. Even if it works out well, that doesn’t necessarily mean it was wasn’t suspect given the information we had at that time.

      Was someone else offering to pay him that much or were we bidding against ourselves at that price?

      Who else could we have gotten for that amount?

      It’s done now. I am pleasantly surprised he has looked way better for us than he has elsewhere. Let’s hope he keeps it up.

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