Knicks Morning News (2015.06.30)

  • [New York Times] Knicks Thinking Big, Looking for Some Size in Free Agency (Tue, 30 Jun 2015 07:01:34 GMT)

    The New York Knicks will be thinking big in free agency.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: Free Agency for Dwyane Wade (Tue, 30 Jun 2015 05:25:55 GMT)

    Dwyane Wade will become a free agent Wednesday, and his 12-year stay with the Miami Heat could be ending.

  • [New York Times] Sports of The Times: Women’s Teams Still Struggle for Fans (Tue, 30 Jun 2015 02:32:12 GMT)

    Even the highest-profile women’s sports leagues in the United States continue to face the problem of how to attract wider audiences and greater news media coverage.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks frontrunners for free agents Monroe, Afflalo (Tue, 30 Jun 2015 02:43:02 GMT)

    Phil Jackson is poised to add two starters on the eve of free agency with the Knicks reportedly closing in on Greg Monroe and Arron Afflalo.

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] Sources: Knicks 'want to be in mix' for Danny Green (Tue, 30 Jun 2015 02:45:38 EST)

    Sources: Knicks 'want to be in mix' for Danny Green

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] Porzingis' brother: Melo reached out to draftee (Tue, 30 Jun 2015 00:10:16 EST)

    Porzingis' brother: Melo reached out to draftee

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    28 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.06.30)”

    1. danny green would be a great addition but i kinda don’t see him coming to NY. has anybody read something about his word on that matter? i couldn’t really find anything.

    2. I just read on hoops hype that he is/was in Brazil so he hasn’t been in much contact but also hopes to stay with Spurs (rumorz)..if Spurs nab LA though he could definitely be in play as they probably won’t have enough cap left to pay him

    3. okay, thanks.
      i guess it also depends on what duncan and ginobili are going to do. plus i’m not exactly sure how the cap works with restricted free agends (leonard , joseph), whether there’s some kind of cap hold preventing the spurs from having enough cap for green.

    4. I love this Porzingis tidbit — his mother was a basketball coach. She’s a huge admirer of Phil Jackson and she’s read all his books because she’s “interested in the psychology of how he deals with players.”

    5. Bad news to report. Spurs are shopping Splitter which tells me they are looking to keep Green. Roster: Duncan, Kawhi, LMA, Green, Parker, Ginobli, Mills. Green has said that Knicks are high on his list but he’d prefer to remain a Spur. The issue was more how much the Spurs wanted him relative to others. Now we may know.

      Well we may have to hope that the Fisher Demarre Carroll relationship rescues us because I don’t think I could stomach Afflalo.

    6. i haven’t read too many rumors linking the knicks and wes matthews either. and i feel like carroll will get paid some big bucks…remains to see by whom.

    7. If Splitter is on the trade block I think we should try hard to make an offer for him. he’s a really good player – great passer, good defender, very efficient offensively, and on a good contract. Not sure how we could get him but wow would he fit perfectly in the triangle (or any offense).

    8. This is music to my ears – and something I think we HAVE to look into:
      From the Spurs SBnation blog – http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015/6/27/8857289/san-antonio-spurs-free-agency-primer

      Man would I ever do Splitter for however many 2nd round picks we have in the next several years. At $8.5MM/year he is way cheaper than anyone else comparable in FA.

      Can the Spurs find takers for Splitter and Mills?

      They should be able to with relative ease. In 2013 the Warriors were able to shed the $24 million they owed Richard Jefferson, Andris Biedrins and Brandon Rush by packaging them with two first round picks and multiple second round picks. Unlike those three, Mills and Splitter have value. Because teams know the Spurs have to trade them to carve out cap room, they won’t likely receive assets back, but if the goal is to get them off the books, that should be possible to accomplish.

    9. Man, Mills and Splitter could both easily start for us. That would be too perfect.

    10. Man, if Duncan agrees to a $6.5 million contract and Manu takes just the room exception…damn, the Spurs have some loyal ass players.

      But yeah, they should be able to dump Splitter (and Mills, if it comes to that) easily. The way that they’re talking, though, it sure sounds like Cory Joseph will be gone in San Antonio. The Knicks really don’t need him now, what with Grant being added to Galloway and Calderon, but he’s a tantalizing free agent piece.

    11. Man, Mills and Splitter could both easily start for us. That would be too perfect.

      What’s their contract situation? Just wondering how much cap room we might have left to sign someone else, and how long we’d have either one under our control.

      If we can get them on the super cheap, that sounds great. But if they wind up costing us a chance to get someone who will be more valuable in the long term (if you think, say, a Monroe in the triangle is more valuable than Splitter), then maybe not. But definitely something to kick the tires on.

    12. What’s their contract situation? Just wondering how much cap room we might have left to sign someone else, and how long we’d have either one under our control.

      They make combined a little over $12 million. The Knicks could still give out a max contract to someone like Greg Monroe.

      By the way, folks, at 10:00 am, I’ll have the latest (last, as well, I guess) installment of the state of the Knicks salary cap.

    13. you guys are out of your mind if you think we can get Splitter for 2nd round picks. his contract is a feature, not a bug. teams like the celtics would blow away our crappy offer.

    14. I do not think they keep Green regardless if they clear the cap space to fit Aldridge. They still will then have to pay Leonard his money and then pay Green $10-13m. I doubt the Spurs want to pay out $92.7-95.7m. The smarter move is to let green go then trade Mills and Anderson.

      I think the even better move would be to forget Aldridge and make a run at Millsap. That seems like the more spurs move. They could get him for 16-18m and keep Mills, Anderson, and Splitter.

    15. But if they find a way to get Aldridge, it will be because they got under the cap. So you’re looking at $70 million tops before you add in the raises Green and Leonard get over their cap holds, and even that’s only $13 or so million. So I don’t think they’ll even be at $90 million. Heck, they’ll barely be over the luxury cap of $81 million.

    16. I think Joseph and Grant would be excellent starters eventually and Calderon and Galloway would come off the bench.

    17. Here’s the link which talks about Spurs making Splitter available. Spurs is a very complex situation hinging on who returns and LMA. Duncan reportedly will recruit LMA so you gotta believe he would stay if they land LMA. Ginobli’s gonna announce his decision in a couple of days. And then there are RFA Leonard/Joseph. Joseph’s got a low QO – they could sign him after all the others so maybe they do shop Mills to free cap.

      Splitter’s a nice value at 8m. Combo guard Mills might be better than spending 11m on Carroll. The more I look into Ajinca, the more I like him. The guy’s a deadly outside shooter and provides some rim protection. Would be a nice fit along Monroe and he’ll probably be cheap. I would be happy if we could snag Monroe (16m), Ajinca (5-6m), Mills (4m). Would you give up our 2018 pick for Splitter and Mills?

    18. Bad news to report. Spurs are shopping Splitter which tells me they are looking to keep Green.

      SAS has 33 million on payroll. You have to add Kawhi cap hold that is going to be 7.5 million, the cap hold of Corey Joseph (5 million), and whatever Duncan earns (i would say 8 million). Danny Green cap hold is also 8 million. I guess Ginobili is retiring. So you can see they need the space in case LMA wants to sign with them.

      They will only unload Splitter if they reach an agreement with LMA or other free agent. Splitter would be easier to move than Boris Diaw. I would grab him if he is essentially free.

    19. I guess Ginobili is retiring

      As the other Spurs article notes, their theory with Manu is that they will renounce his Bird Rights but then he’ll sign for the room exception when everything else is finished.

    20. Isn’t Duncan gonna resign for the vet min or something? That clears the cap hold doesn’t it?

      @ Cronin, maybe you should just do the salary situation on the Spurs.

    21. But if they find a way to get Aldridge, it will be because they got under the cap. So you’re looking at $70 million tops before you add in the raises Green and Leonard get over their cap holds, and even that’s only $13 or so million. So I don’t think they’ll even be at $90 million. Heck, they’ll barely be over the luxury cap of $81 million.

      You right. Great catch I added 15.7m and 13m w/o subtracting their cap holds. Like you said it would be around a $13m raise total for Green and Leonard. That makes more since now.

      I personally would want Ajinca over Splitter though. I know I have been hyping him all year so I’m bias but I think he is the a better fit because his game goes well with Monroe, he’s younger, and cost less. Grabbing Mills though would be nice though.

    22. Isn’t Duncan gonna resign for the vet min or something? That clears the cap hold doesn’t it?

      @ Cronin, maybe you should just do the salary situation on the Spurs.

      Yeah, when he re-signs it will clear his cap hold at the new figure, but he won’t be signing for vet minimum. He’ll likely look to make at least $6 million.

      Frank linked to a Spurs blog which looks like it does a good job on the Spurs’ cap here. I can’t speak to the accuracy of their info, though (they mention minimum cap holds, which is already better than 90% of the salary cap reporting out there, but I didn’t do the math to see if they correctly accounted for those holds). It looks correct, though!

    23. Does it seem like the Knicks are looking to go with a two point backcourt? Basically Galloway and Calderon playing together, with Grant mixed in? It doesn’t sound like they’re looking at any 2s.

    24. As the other Spurs article notes, their theory with Manu is that they will renounce his Bird Rights but then he’ll sign for the room exception when everything else is finished.

      I have no info on this. But i find strange that Ginobili would play for so low and likely in a very limited role. The players have their pride, and i dont think he wants to spend a season seeing how he is being left behind.

    25. Well, various media reports have said they’re going to meet with Matthews and Affalo, and that they want to meet with Green whenever he’s back in the country. So they may be willing to sign a 2 if one of the ones they view as the upper tier of the market (and not someone restricted like Butler or Middleton), and otherwise go with a lot of 2-point/combo looks if the value is more in getting big men.

    26. The good thing about the team being so bad, is that it allows them to take advantage of market inefficiencies. If wings are getting paid too much, then go for the cheaper bigs. We need everything! We can bargain hunt!

    27. I prefer the cheap combo guard approach to Matthews or Afflalo. Green would be worth 12m/year because of the fit (42% 3FG% and elite defense). I hope we trade or waive Calderon because gimpy Melo and gimpy Calderon would be an unmitigated disaster on defense and would set the wrong tone for our burgeoning team. There are better options be it Galloway, CJ Watson, Mills, or Joseph.

    28. Man would I ever do Splitter for however many 2nd round picks we have in the next several years.

      We owe our second round pick every year from 2012-2022. And the streak won’t end at 10 consecutive years. We just aren’t allowed to trade picks more than 7 years out.

      When it’s all said and done, the Knicks streak of trading their own 2nd rounder could go down in history alongside Cal Ripken and John Wooden as a sports streak for the ages. (And “Kostas Papanikolaou” will become the answer to the trivia question: “who was the last player the Knicks selected with their own 2nd round draft pick?”)

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