Knicks Morning News (2015.05.27)

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: Phil Jackson and Knicks may be Cav-nots (Wed, 27 May 2015 05:23:22 GMT)

    To paraphrase the famous line from “Jaws,” Phil Jackson’s gonna need a bigger boat.

  • [New York Times] Better Than Ever, LeBron Leads Cavaliers Into NBA Finals (Wed, 27 May 2015 07:15:57 GMT)

    Escorted by family members and friends, LeBron James walked out of Quicken Loans Arena cradling his sleepy youngest son with his left arm while clutching an expensive bottle of champagne in his right hand.

  • [New York Times] WNBA’s Johnson: Didn’t Expect Arrest After Griner Fight (Wed, 27 May 2015 06:24:57 GMT)

    Glory Johnson didn’t expect to be arrested after her fight with Brittney Griner at their home.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: Rockets’ Dwight Howard Avoids Suspension for a Foul (Wed, 27 May 2015 05:01:00 GMT)

    Rod Thorn, the N.B.A.’s president for basketball operations, said in a statement that Howard was trying to free himself from Andrew Bogut when Howard “recklessly hit him in the face.”

  • [New York Times] LeBron, Cavaliers Earn NBA Finals Spot by Sweeping Hawks (Wed, 27 May 2015 04:58:22 GMT)

    LeBron James scored 23 points, Kyrie Irving returned after missing two games and the Cleveland Cavaliers reserved a spot in the NBA Finals with a 118-88 victory over the Atlanta Hawks on Tuesday night to win the Eastern Conference title.

  • [New York Times] LeBron Leads Cavs Sweep of Hawks to Reach NBA Finals (Wed, 27 May 2015 04:42:42 GMT)

    LeBron James booked his place in the NBA Finals for the fifth straight year when the Cleveland Cavaliers crushed the Atlanta Hawks 118-88 on Tuesday to complete a 4-0 sweep of the Eastern Conference Final.

  • [New York Times] Cavaliers Sweep Hawks to Reach NBA Finals (Wed, 27 May 2015 03:57:42 GMT)

    LeBron James booked his place in the NBA Finals for the fifth straight year when the Cleveland Cavaliers crushed the Atlanta Hawks 118-88 on Tuesday to complete a 4-0 sweep of the Eastern Conference Final.

  • [New York Times] Cavaliers 118, Hawks 88: Cavaliers’ LeBron James, With Rout of Hawks, Again Heads to Finals (Wed, 27 May 2015 03:30:09 GMT)

    James had 23 points, 9 rebounds and 7 assists, and Kyrie Irving scored 16 points in his return from a two-game absence as Cleveland completed a sweep of Atlanta.

  • [New York Times] Sports of The Times: Al Attles, a Warrior for Life, Is a Bridge to a Lone Bay Area Title (Wed, 27 May 2015 02:13:29 GMT)

    Attles, 76, is the bridge that connects the Warriors who won the 1975 N.B.A. championship with the current team’s quest.

  • [New York Times] Rockets’ Dwight Howard Won’t Be Suspended for Game 5 (Wed, 27 May 2015 00:27:46 GMT)

    Howard, Houston’s center, who hit the Warriors’ Andrew Bogut in the face while trying to free himself, had his flagrant-1 foul upheld by the N.B.A.

  • [New York Times] Kyrie Irving Back for Cavs, Will Start Game 4 (Wed, 27 May 2015 00:18:45 GMT)

    Cavaliers All-Star point guard Kyrie Irving will start Game 4 of the Eastern Conference finals after missing two games with a sore left knee.

  • Liked it? Take a second to support Mike Kurylo on Patreon!

    Mike Kurylo

    Mike Kurylo is the founder and editor of KnickerBlogger.net. His book on the 2012 Knicks, "We’ll Always Have Linsanity," is on sale now. Follow him on twitter (@KnickerBlogger).

    43 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.05.27)”

    1. I’m starting to like an inevitable Monroe signing more and more. Simply put: it appears Monroe may be elite on offense when he plays the 5 and not very good when he plays the 4. I posted some of these stats yesterday: this season, without Drummond and Smith on court, Monroe achieved in 806 minutes a TS% of .593, eFG of .54 on 26% usage. To put that in perspective, that was the highest scoring efficiency of any center other than Dwight Howard who had usage >=20%. In contrast, when Drummond and Monroe played together (no Smith) over 882 minutes, his efficiency plummeted to .515 TS%, .46 eFG and .99PPP. What happened to the defense? It improved when Monroe played the 5! – opponent 1.043PPP versus 1.068PPP.

      Granted there are sample size issues and this may say more about Drummond than Monroe. However, Monroe was relatively efficient in his first two seasons when he mostly played at the 5. My fear, however, is that Phil is gonna ignore the stats and go 2 bigs. Not only would that neuter Monroe but Phil might squander our draft pick and free agent signing on another big. Given his recent tweets and signings to date, I don’t have a whole lot of confidence in Phil.

    2. I personally dont like Monroe, but if we sign him, i hope it is to play the 5. If Phil Jackson stands by his earlier comments about the need of a ‘big butt’, he might not be concerned about the actual height of our C. I think there are too many players miscast because of height concerns; many tweeners play the ‘smaller’ position when they are actually much better playing the ‘big’ one.

    3. RE: Cap Luke

      Was he banished from posting on this site? . . or just bullied away?
      If he was banished, this would be a new low for this blog. Censoring participants on a forum for not posting what the “in” crowd wants to hear is intellectual death.

      And to the guys that bullied him, you’re nothing but cowards with a keyboard, the kind of people we’re trying to purge from our society.

      Cap Luke respectfully posted his honest opinions – which were much more knowledgable than most posters here, and generated much more intellectual debate.

    4. Cap Luke respectfully posted his honest opinions – which were much more knowledgable than most posters here, and generated much more intellectual debate.

      And disrespectfully posted comments that were blatantly misogynist and was banned for comparing being a Knicks fan under Dolan to getting raped. Good riddance.

    5. RE #3,

      I just started posting to this site yesterday. I’m kind of curious what this “in crowd” believes in? I seem to recall the captain on a crusade to rip Phil Jackson incessantly (for the record, I don’t care for Phil either. He comes off as arrogant and a mediocre, at best, NBA exec so far). I found him annoyingly redundant at best and snarky and self-righteous at worst. Perhaps banning was extreme, but I had taken to scrolling past his posts. Apparently I missed a rape analogy being used?

      Also, you decry CL either getting bullied or banned from the site, but then say that those who forced him away are “the kind of people we’re trying to purge from our society.” Purge how? Would bullying or banning qualify?

    6. To me, what Howard did that didn’t get him suspended looked just like what JR did that got JR a two game suspension. Am I missing something? Did the two incidents differ in some way I didn’t notice?

    7. And disrespectfully posted comments that were blatantly misogynist and was banned for comparing being a Knicks fan under Dolan to getting raped. Good riddance.

      I never saw evidence of the claims you’re making.
      Even if it were true, being misogynistic is a punishable crime? . . . and being a mob bully isn’t?
      His biggest offense is that he didn’t think like other knickerbloggers. And That was his strongest asset to this community.

    8. the problem with Monroe at the 5 is that we would essentially have zero rim protection assuming Melo would be at the 4. can we get away with that in today’s NBA?

      And re: Phil being stubborn about having 2 “bigs” on the court at all times – if I remember correctly, when he was coaching the Lakers he played Lamar Odom at the 4 a lot, even if it meant keeping Bynum or Gasol on the bench.

      Playing Melo at the 4 just makes so much sense, other than the pounding that he might take there against some teams. He’s the best passer out of the post that we have at this point, is a mismatch in the post even against other bigs because of his quickness and ability to face and take bigs off the dribble. And that’s not even taking into account how much better the defense is if he’s not expected to chase shooters around.

    9. is Monroe better offensively as a 5 and better defensively as a 4? If so, Wouldn’t Turner be a perfect compliment? Could Turner play a role similar to Ibaka but as a true Center. My one concern would be PnR play.

    10. I never saw evidence of the claims you’re making.

      The post was deleted, and rightfully so, because that kind of degeneracy shouldn’t be allowed here.

    11. Oh God not this again. Hopefully Luke is banned, and hopefully whoever does the back-end for KB implements an ignore function so I can ignore all of Hoola’s posts. Hoola doesn’t deserve banning even though he’s painfully retrograde in his basketball opinions. Luke questioned people’s intelligence when you argued against him, he called Farfa retarded, he consistently straw-manned whoever he was arguing with after he personally attacked them, never admitted he was wrong, posted the same thing in every damn thread, evaded directly answering questions that were posed in good faith, said that it’s totally moral and totally sensible for James Dolan to hire Isiah Thomas to the Liberty , said that Anucha Sanders is “totally happy” with being sexually harassed because she made some money off it, and has used horrifically misogynist analogies on 2 or 3 occasions. There’s difference of opinion and then there’s the holding of morally reprehensible opinions and spouting hate speech. Luke did the latter while also being a basketball ignoramus. If that’s not grounds for banning, what is?

      Why should someone who contributes so little and detracts so much be allowed the privilege (because that’s what it is–not a right) to post on this forum?

      Luke is hopefully gone, and with that we were hoping all dumb, Luke-related discussion–please drop the pseudo-moral crusade, and stick to talking about basketball instead of acting in confederacy with that other dunce. No one cares that Luke is gone besides you–this forum is better for it.

      OT: I think a Monroe max would be pretty bad even if we played him at the 5–the offensive advantage you gain is at least partially offset by his weaker defensive numbers and the guy just isn’t a great value at 15m. If it’s inevitable that we sign him, we should all collectively lower our expectations for the next 5 years, bc it shows that PJ is clueless.

    12. Playing Melo at the 4 just makes so much sense, other than the pounding that he might take there against some teams. He’s the best passer out of the post that we have at this point, is a mismatch in the post even against other bigs because of his quickness and ability to face and take bigs off the dribble. And that’s not even taking into account how much better the defense is if he’s not expected to chase shooters around.

      Agreed, which is why it is still so weird that they seem to be locked in on him at the 3.

    13. I dont see why anything has to be locked in. They should be fluid if they sign Monroe. Some time at both positions should be the goal.

    14. I agree, but have they given any indication that they view Melo as anything other than a 3?

    15. “Even if it were true, being misogynistic is a punishable crime? . . . and being a mob bully isn’t?
      His biggest offense is that he didn’t think like other knickerbloggers. And That was his strongest asset to this community.”

      Wow, there’s some thoughtful reflection for ya. Although I shouldn’t even try to dignify it with a response, here goes…

      For one thing, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out how to vehemently and even viscerally disagree with someone (or many) on this blog without getting banned.

      For another thing, as to his basketball opinions, it’s rather ironic that Luke’s views on the Melo signing, Dolan, Phil, possibilities for the future, are much more closely aligned with KB founder Mike K’s than with mine. If getting banned was meant to suppress a particular point of view, as you lamely suggest, then why would the censors choose to ban those who SHARE THEIR OPINIONS?

      One thing that has been very clear for the many years I’ve been posting here is that everyone is free to be as optimistic or pessimistic as they want to be. The “board’s” ears perk up only when the conversation devolves into personal attack, or misogyny, or racism, or shameless trolling, or incessant droning of the same shit. We can all have lots of fun within these simple rules, no matter how divergent our opinions.

    16. If I hadn’t accidentally used the wrong e-mail for the ban request, CL would have been gone a while ago. There were plenty of deleted posts that might not be taken into context when deciding how reasonable it was to part ways with him.

    17. One thing that has been very clear for the many years I’ve been posting here is that everyone is free to be as optimistic or pessimistic as they want to be. The “board’s” ears perk up only when the conversation devolves into personal attack, or misogyny, or racism, or shameless trolling, or incessant droning of the same shit. We can all have lots of fun within these simple rules, no matter how divergent our opinions.

      That’s bullshit. You guys were much more disrespectful to him than he was to you. But you got your wish. That’s one less guy you have to defend Phil and Melo from….even though your opinions will eventually evolve into his.

    18. the problem with melo at the 4 is that it’s physically draining…. on the perimeter it’s pretty much touch football and in the paint it’s full contact…. playing 30 minutes down there a game is going to take a toll… i think he’s said as much in the past…. as has lebron…

      but 10 minutes a game? i think that’s doable… whether or not he starts there is another matter…

    19. @17 – don’t try to revise history… i didn’t get involved in whatever tirade he was last in but things only escalated because he resorted to trolling… and when you troll… ppl will lash back.. there is not many on the planet.. and especially on the internet … that will just take being called delusional and stupid so many times without throwing it back in your face…

    20. Oh no! what will become of knickerblogger without a brave man who can say Carmelo sucks!

    21. Oh no! what will become of knickerblogger without a brave man who can say Carmelo sucks!

      There’s only one man who can save us now…

      DRed for GM ’16

    22. The problem with Melo at the 4 is it means Melo is playing for the Knicks.

      Boom!

    23. Hoola you have to be kidding me. The guy isn’t worth your defense, you actually can disagree without lowering the discussion. That’s the difference. He was a disrespectful instigator.

    24. Is Monroe’s .593 TS% at 26% usage over 800 minutes sustainable when he plays the 5? I’m not sure but if it is, there were only 5 players this past season who posted that high a TS% on 800+ minutes and maintained a usage >= 25%. That’s elite.

      the problem with Monroe at the 5 is that we would essentially have zero rim protection assuming Melo would be at the 4. can we get away with that in today’s NBA?

      Maybe focus more on defense than rim protection. Pistons were net plus over those 800 minutes when Drummond and Josh Smith were off the floor. And their defense was actually better when Monroe played the 5 versus Drummond. DRPM shows Monroe to be a plus player the past two seasons. Apparently he’s improved on defense especially on the PnR. One would hope Phil’s got people pouring over video to confirm this but somehow I doubt it.

      if I remember correctly, when he was coaching the Lakers he played Lamar Odom at the 4 a lot,

      Yes and doesn’t Porzingis bear some similarity to Odom? A rangy big who’s a plus defender and able to knock down mid-range shots and even has some 3 range? I really wonder how Phil views Porzingis. The guy’s very mobile, rates to be plus PnR defender, and has shown shot blocking capability. He’ll be able to guard most 4s and some 3s. The only 4s who would give him problems are strong post-up guys like Randolph.

    25. I dont think the scouting consensus has Porzingis as a plus defender currently so much as that he has all the tools to be a plus defender if he imoroves a bit in space and fills his frame out which we dont know how much hes able to do.

      He is tantalizing though.

    26. Porzingis will only a plus defender if he gains 25 pounds of muscle. And he probably won’t, so he is unlikely to be a plus defender.

    27. Aren’t their specialists out there who could project the likelihood that Porzingis will be able to add bulk looking at his metabolism, genetics, etc.? Just strikes me as an area which would be more reliable than guessing whether Mudiay would be able to substantially improve his shooting. I mean, if specialists gave a 75% chance he’d be able to add required bulk, don’t you have to draft the guy?

    28. Yes and doesn’t Porzingis bear some similarity to Odom? A rangy big who’s a plus defender and able to knock down mid-range shots and even has some 3 range?

      Porzingis doesn’t pass. At all.

    29. I’m going to do a write-up on Porzingis for the site, but the basic gist of my take on him is that’s he had the opportunity to do so and he hasn’t done it yet, when doing so would make him quite possibly the #1 pick in the draft, so I’m leaning towards him not being able to do it.

    30. he’s a pretty bad passer and he’s not really good at putting the ball on the floor…

      he has some possibilities as a low usage stretch 4 but i doubt anyone is drafting him having that in mind…

    31. he’s not really good at putting the ball on the floor

      “However Porzingis is also pretty good shooting from off the bounce or coming off flair screens … His ability to put the ball on the floor in spot up situations is very underrated” nbadraft.net

    32. Zinger isn’t just skinny-he looks like a short, white Manute Bol.

      Obviously, that’s a dumb reason not to draft him, but he is a weak rebounding, no passing big man who shot well from downtown in second tier competition. I’m sure there’s something more to him, but I don’t know what it is that has people drooling over the kid.

    33. DRed – You’re suffering from post traumatic bargnani stress disorder. I understand because there’s one condition maybe even worse than that from which I suffer: post traumatic felton stress disorder re Mudiay.

    34. Seriously, though, what is Porzingis good at? He shot the euro 3 well in the Eurocup, and he’s a decent shotblocker, but what else does he have?

    35. @31 – he has this few dribble spot up and mini fadeaway that he shoots… it looks a lot likes dirk’s iso shots… but he’s not a iso guy off the elbow type of dribbler… he’s not a drive to the basket type of dribbler…

    36. Seriously, though, what is Porzingis good at? He shot the euro 3 well in the Eurocup, and he’s a decent shotblocker, but what else does he have?

      1. His shot is impossible to block, even more so than Dirk’s.
      2. His mobility, length, and shot blocking capability project him to be an elite defender especially if he adds some bulk.

      Most of his issues are related to his lack of bulk (rebounding, post-up game, finishing ability) so his ability to add such bulk is a key in evaluating the guy’s ceiling. His passing is worrisome if it indicates lack of court vision so I’d want to investigate that further. One would hope that NYK have access to the resources to make more informed judgments on these matters.

    37. “That’s bullshit. You guys were much more disrespectful to him than he was to you. But you got your wish. That’s one less guy you have to defend Phil and Melo from….even though your opinions will eventually evolve into his.”

      Oooh, that’s deep. I get it now.

    Comments are closed.