Knicks Morning News (2015.02.14)

  • [New York Daily News] Phil: Things are ‘working out just the way we want them to’ (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 04:33:35 GMT)

    Phil Jackson ditched the laid-back Zen approach that usually colors most of his public statements.

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: LeBron’s talk about Mecca maddening to Knicks fans (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 04:20:59 GMT)

    The greatest tease LeBron James ever made was convincing Knicks fans that he was taking his talents to New York in 2010.

  • [New York Daily News] Bondy: Likely Knicks targets get to feel deep freeze in NY (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 04:07:35 GMT)

    Outside on Seventh Ave., there were traffic jams, impatient crowds, metal barriers and frost-bite temperatures.

  • [New York Daily News] Dolan says email from fan ‘caught me at the wrong moment’ (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 03:29:01 GMT)

    At a charity event for Citi Harvest and NBA Cares Friday, the Knicks owner explained why he sent a harsh, heated response to an angry fan.

  • [New York Daily News] Melo may have received assist from police on way to Garden (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 03:08:41 GMT)

    Melo posted an Instagram video after 6 p.m. that shows his car trailing a vehicle with sirens and lights on his way to the Garden.

  • [New York Post] Two big targets give Knicks fans a glimmer of hope (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 01:20:49 -0500)

    Memphis center Marc Gasol and Portland power forward LaMarcus Aldridge said Friday they enjoyed New York and seemed to give an endorsement of the triangle offense. Gasol and Aldridge are…

  • [New York Post] Phil Jackson: ‘Things are working out just the way we want them to’ (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 00:25:34 -0500)

    Only weeks after saying "his experiment fell flat on its face,” Knicks president Phil Jackson sounded more optimistic Friday at the All-Star Weekend technology summit at Waldorf Astoria. "Things are…

  • [New York Post] The ultimate tease: Examining LeBron James’ NY fawning (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 00:21:14 -0500)

    LeBron James and Floyd Mayweather have a lot in common. They like to tease people. While Mayweather teases us about whether he'll fight Manny Pacquiao anytime soon, James was teasing…

  • [New York Times] NBA World Team Beat U.S. in Rising Stars Challenge (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 05:39:48 GMT)

    Rookie NBA forward Andrew Wiggins scored 22 points, leading seven in double figures as the World team defeated the U.S. team 121-112 on Friday night in the Rising Stars Challenge at the Barclays Center in New York.

  • [New York Times] Andrew Wiggins Shines in Rising Stars Challenge (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 05:39:16 GMT)

    Andrew Wiggins led the World team to a 121-112 win over the United States in the Rising Stars Challenge, in which 65 percent of the points were scored from the lane.

  • [New York Times] Wiggins Leads World Team Past US in Rising Stars Challenge (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 04:42:52 GMT)

    Andrew Wiggins scored 22 points, Rudy Gobert added 18 points, 12 rebounds and three blocked shots, and the World team beat the U.S. 121-112 on Friday night in the Rising Stars Challenge at All-Star weekend.

  • [New York Times] Nothing New Here: Anthony Endures Meaningless Loss (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 04:31:22 GMT)

    With Carmelo Anthony watching as an assistant coach, the East team fell to the West in the N.B.A. All-Star Celebrity Game at Madison Square Garden despite an M.V.P. performance from Kevin Hart.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Celtics Rally to Hand Hawks a Rare Loss (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 02:40:02 GMT)

    The Hawks, who have lost four of their last seven after a 19-game winning streak, still have the best record in the Eastern Conference.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: LeBron James and Stephen Curry Host Fitness Clinic in Manhattan (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 02:23:15 GMT)

    Stephen Curry and LeBron James, in town to play in the N.B.A. All-Star Game this weekend, hosted a children’s fitness clinic in Manhattan.

  • [New York Times] In Dunk Contest, Tallest Competitors Face Taller Odds (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 02:15:14 GMT)

    Giannis Antetokounmpo and Mason Plumlee may have a disadvantage because in the past 30 years, only two players at least 6-foot-10 have won the annual N.B.A. competition.

  • [New York Times] LeBron James Elected Vice President of NBA Players’ Union (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 00:55:52 GMT)

    LeBron James is about to play a new power position — vice president.

  • [New York Times] Silly Questions, International Flavor Top All-Star Media Day (Sat, 14 Feb 2015 00:45:48 GMT)

    Hundreds of quote-starved journalists packed into a Manhattan hotel ballroom, swarming around basketball royalty on Friday.

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    36 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.02.14)”

    1. OT: When I visit this site using Chrome on my LG G3 android phone, the site is unusable. I’m unable to scroll down more than a line or two. I can access the site using my iPhone and Android tablet without an issue.

    2. I’m with Z-man on this one. Melo is not a good bet to build a team around for the next five years, but Chandler would be an even worse bet. He’s two years older and is more likely to break down (not that Melo isn’t also likely to break down, of course, but less so than Chandler).

      Younger Chandler? Sure, but at their current ages, Melo is the better bet between the two to build around (although he is a bad bet in and of himself).

    3. We should have traded both Chandler and Melo. OKC was willing to trade one of their 1st rounders for Shump; we should have been able to expand that trade to include Chandler, Perkins, and their other 1st.

      Should have traded Melo to Chicago for Boozer and some combo of picks, Mirotic, Butler.

      We would still probably have been terrible this year so we’d still be tanking for the lottery but we’d have a much stronger base to build on and more cap space to sign free agents.

      Also, we should’ve signed Shaka Smart as head coach.

    4. Chandler will be cheaper than Melo, but it’s not like Chandler is going to be cheap. He’ll make beaucoup bucks, too.

      The Knicks are hopefully going to get a homegrown star this year, provided they pick in the top two picks, that is. Possibly even top three, but I worry about that third pick, I worry that they’ll pick someone they shouldn’t there. #1 and #2, though, they’ll take one of Towns and Okafor and I can be happy. Why don’t you want me to be happy, Knicks?!?

      And the top two picks are both centers, also making Chandler a bit superfluous to this rebuild.

    5. We should have traded both Chandler and Melo.

      Very much agreed. And it kind of sort of sort of kind of worries me about the hiring of Jackson. For instance, would a different GM have just gone for the complete rebuild? We know Jackson was never going to go for a complete rebuild (dude’s 197 years old, he is not going to wait four years for the team to become good) but would another GM have handled Melo differently? I still think, on the whole, that it was better to sign Jackson since he has the fame to be hopefully autonomous (and, let’s be frank, if the other GM was Steve Mills, he would have given Melo anything Melo asked for), but it’s an interesting question.

    6. First, I don’t think Chandler re-ups with the Knicks. Second, he had lost all credibility with the fan base. Third, what Brian said.

      I don’t think building around a maxed aging Melo is a horrible decision, but it wasn’t the best decision, which would have been to get assets for him. I also think we could have gotten a better deal (i.e. one w/o Calderon) for Chandler because Cuban was desperate to get him back. I would rather we had jettisoned Calderon than JR with the Shump sweetener, as JR (it kills me to say it) is the better player and has a shorter contract. But I truly believe that Melo can be a great #2 player for the life of this contract. Like Chandler, he needs the right players around him. I think getting a alpha dog 2-way point guard is key.

      All that said, the fact that we have a chance for a top-4 pick in a top-heavy draft is a miraculous development, and could ultimately make delicious lemonade out of the botched transaction lemons. If we can land a franchise cornerstone in this draft, that would make up for a lot of ills. I’m really liking Towns, although Okafor and Russell are both future all-stars and Johnson is looking better and better. Normally I don’t get too excited about the NCAA tournament until the final four, but I really am looking forward to it this year since we will have so much on the line in the draft.

    7. Very much agreed. And it kind of sort of sort of kind of worries me about the hiring of Jackson. For instance, would a different GM have just gone for the complete rebuild? We know Jackson was never going to go for a complete rebuild (dude’s 197 years old, he is not going to wait four years for the team to become good) but would another GM have handled Melo differently? I still think, on the whole, that it was better to sign Jackson since he has the fame to be hopefully autonomous (and, let’s be frank, if the other GM was Steve Mills, he would have given Melo anything Melo asked for), but it’s an interesting question.

      Well, Phil did give Melo whatever he asked for. I think most GMs would have resigned Melo, on the theory that he’s a superstar. If I had been GM, I would have dealt him for anything or let him walk, since we are actually already in full-on rebuild mode, only we’re doing it with one hand tied behind our backs since we have few picks and an albatross of a contract on the cap.

    8. Oh true, I just meant to acknowledge that the most likely alternative to Jackson would have been Mills, who wouldn’t have done anything differently.

    9. The biggest problem I see with building around an aging Melo is how patient will Melo be? My belief is, best case scenario, it’s going to take two summers to get to a point where we resemble a good team. Melo will be 32 by then, is he willing to wait that long? Or does he start putting pressure on the front office to get better by next season or force a trade out of town.

    10. I think he’ll be willing to wait. I just worry about his age, as he’ll be, what, 32-33 when they’ll have their next chance at being good – just in time for him to start declining due to age, ya know?

    11. Yes, it is true that Chandler would not be a good signing over the next five years. But this year he’s got a career high in TS%, ORB%, WS48, WP48 and even PER. The idea that Carmelo was a better long-term idea than Chandler is downright absurd when you consider that he has not, by any measure, experienced a reduction in effectiveness.

      I’d much rather give Chandler a four-year max deal at 32 than Carmelo Anthony’s mega-max NTC garbage.

    12. Both Chandler and Melo need a supporting cast around them. Let’s see if Chandler gets it done this year in the playoffs, vs. getting historically abused by the likes of all-time great Roy Hibbert.

    13. While I agree that if you have to choose between Melo or Chandler, rebuilding around TC would be easier due to a probably friendlier contract (number of years and value), he wouldn’t want any part of the flaming pile of shit that this team was going to be in the next couple of years.

      He was clearly frustrated last season and needed to be traded.

      The right choise was to trade them both and start from zero.

    14. The Knicks will not win as long as Melo is in NY because he is not good enough to be “the man” and he is not willing to be anything less than “the man”. He would sabotage any system, coach or player that does not fit his “Carmelo iso-hero-ball” agenda.

      Captain Luke, welcome to Knickerblogger, you fit right in!

    15. I just worry about his age, as he’ll be, what, 32-33 when they’ll have their next chance at being good – just in time for him to start declining due to age

      I think he is already declining due to age. The injuries are a symptom of that.

      What Phil is betting his tenure in NY on is that the Triangle will slow the decline and prolong Melo’s value. (Early returns aren’t great for NY’s triangle thus far, and it seems to be making Phil bristle a bit– understandable, considering it’s his everything).

    16. IMO, neither Chandler or Melo is good enough to build around.

      Chandler is a terrific low usage high efficiency defensive anchor on a team that already has a solid #1 and #2 scorer. He’s the 3rd wheel and should be paid that way.

      Melo is a terrific #2 scorer masquerading as a superstar. He would get more open looks, take fewer bad shots, and improve his efficiency if he was playing off a real superstar. He should get paid somewhat below the max.

      If you give either of those guys a max contract (or close), you are stifling your ability to build the rest of the team.

    17. Why is it that you can’t build around a player who doesn’t volume score?

      Chandler makes $14M this year (near the $16M that first-time max deals get) and the Mavericks don’t seem to be worse for it.

    18. Melo Schmelo. I am tired of talking about him. (I wish he were gone.)

      I have seen Mozgov play recently and I still can’t believe he became a “throw in” in the Melo deal.
      To me he looks better than Okafor. We REALLY need a competent center.

      Yes, we ALSO really need some really good guards! No to Galloway (unless a 2nd stringer at best), Prigioni has had his day, Hardaway-maybe he can hit a shot or 2 off the bench, Larkin-I like his energy but not an answer. What a sorry crew.

      I would trade Melo for Mozgov straight away in an instant.

      Come on Phil! Right this pathetic ship or Sayonora. Can you try really hard and make some intelligent decisions?-surprise us!-shock us!

      Talk of a championship is absurd at his point (we are SOOO far from that) .
      Let’s try for a competitive team that we can root for. What we have is a total embarrassment and unrootable. So sad.

    19. I always thought that the Mavs were “built around” Dirk and that Chandler was the complementary player. (I kind of think that the Mavs thought the same thing because they let Chandler go.) Turns out that the team is built around Chandler. Wow. Learn something new every day. Shows what I know.

    20. Toney Douglas was a useful bench player for a few years, which I think is what most people hope Galloway will be.

    21. There’s really nothing this team can do at this point. We have nothing to trade of value. COLE is our most valuable trade asset. COLE. I suppose we could trade him for a 2nd rounder or a young player to a playoff team that needs a back up big, but that doesn’t seem likely.
      We can’t even trade Amare and take back some dead weight and a 1st, because we have to preserve our cap.
      It’s going to be slow and painful, guys.

    22. Back to posts 1 and 2.

      Chrome …. HTC One. This site is whack…. Won’t work on that browser. Is someone working on that or nah? I can adapt but that seems way too defeatist in these entitled times we live in…. Any way. God bless all knick fans.

    23. Toney Douglas was a useful bench player for a few years, which I think is what most people hope Galloway will be.

      Yeah, that sounds about right to me. If you had Douglas at 24 years old, you’d also lock him up to a two-year minimum deal, right?

    24. Chandler is a terrific low usage high efficiency defensive anchor on a team that already has a solid #1 and #2 scorer. He’s the 3rd wheel and should be paid that way.

      While the Mavericks were built around Dirk, I think Chandler was pretty clearly the #2 guy on that championship team, though, so he wasn’t a third wheel (and since Dirk is one of the all-time greatest players in NBA history, playing second fiddle to him is no knock on anyone). And that was reflected in him being the second-highest paid player on that championship team, so clearly you can win with him as your second-highest paid player.

      And what’s interesting is that doesn’t Dallas pretty clearly demonstrate how valuable Chandler was to that team, with how they looked with him, without him and now with him again?

    25. I think he is already declining due to age. The injuries are a symptom of that.

      What Phil is betting his tenure in NY on is that the Triangle will slow the decline and prolong Melo’s value. (Early returns aren’t great for NY’s triangle thus far, and it seems to be making Phil bristle a bit– understandable, considering it’s his everything).

      What’s fascinating to me is that, at least this year, it seems like Melo has actually had a harder time physically dealing with playing small forward than he did playing power forward, and we were all worried about how he would hold up long term banging with power forwards. As it turns out, he ended up getting hurt because of the speed of having to follow small forwards around! In other words, it seems like his body might just be in a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation, where he is now too bulky to be able to chase after small forwards without hurting his knee but too (small? old? fragile? I don’t know what word I’m looking for here except to note that he doesn’t look like he can do it without getting hurt) to bang with power forwards without injuring his shoulder or something like that.

      Hmmm…I think that just depressed me a lot more than I intended it to…

    26. I still think the priority for this team is a PG no matter what. I’m tired of having the Chris Duhons and the Raymond Feltons. Correct me if I’m wrong but when the Chris Duhon-David Lee pick and roll was working, teams neutralized it by deciding to not guard Duhon, leave both players on Lee and daring Duhon to shoot. The same thing happened when people stopped leaving Melo and Chandler on the Felton Pick and Roll/pops, and dared Felton to shoot.

    27. Why is it that you can’t build around a player who doesn’t volume score?

      Because you need 2-3 quality scorers to win a championship and they don’t tend to come as cheaply as low usage defensive specialists. So if you pay up too much for the the latter, it’s going be just as tough to fill out the team as if you overpay for Melo.

    28. While the Mavericks were built around Dirk, I think Chandler was pretty clearly the #2 guy on that championship team, though, so he wasn’t a third wheel (and since Dirk is one of the all-time greatest players in NBA history, playing second fiddle to him is no knock on anyone).

      Dirk had an all time great playoff run that year or that team would not have won.

      If you have a peak Dirk, James, Durant or Wade you probably don’t need a prototypical #2 scorer to win it all. (though it would clearly help because you aren’t going to get a performance for the ages all the time). You just need “several” other guys that can get you 15 a night consistently and that are capable of more. Absent a super elite scorer like that, you need a solid #1 and solid #2 scorer.

      As for who was the #2 guy on that Dallas team, I think Kidd and Chandler were 2 and 2a and they had just enough guys that could light it up to get by with Dirk playing at that level.

      I guess you could also use the Spur’s model where everyone contributes scoring, but that’s not so easy to build unless you have a lot of players taking discounts and the RIGHT players and coach.

      Melo is not a #1 because he isn’t efficient enough at high volumes.

    29. I realize that it’s not popular on the site to say that Chandler is anything short of the second coming of Bill Russell and Wilt combined, but I’m not sure how critical Chandler is to the Mavs. (Although they have made themselves dangerously shallow at center by trading away Wright). Last year, with Dalembert as their starting center and Wright as the backup, they went 49-33 and took the Spurs to 7 games. This year, they are on pace to win 53. A good argument can be made that, if they hadn’t traded for Chandler, they would be just as good as they are simply as a result of having another year playing together.

    30. By the way, for all the talk about how efficient Chandler makes their offense, the Mavs’ offensive efficiency is exactly the same this year as last.

    31. Also, I’m not sure why so many people are so pessimistic about the Knicks’ current plight. It is very likely that, through free agency and the draft, they will have 3 new starters and, hopefully, a healthy Melo next year. If they are smart about what they do in the draft and free agency, they could be pretty good next year.

    32. By the way, for all the talk about how efficient Chandler makes their offense, the Mavs’ offensive efficiency is exactly the same this year as last.

      Rajon Rondo has been terrible. Their big drop in efficiency has coincided with his acquisition. Before they traded for him, they had a historically high offensive efficiency. And they knew it would drop, of course, as they figured the trade-off in defense would be worth it. So far, it has not.

    33. Also, I’m not sure why so many people are so pessimistic about the Knicks’ current plight.

      I find that extremely difficult to believe.

    34. Or their historically efficient offense was unsustainable and has inevitably regressed to the mean, or other teams have adjusted to it so it isn’t as effective…

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