Knicks Morning News (2015.02.09)

  • [New York Times] Expanded All-Star Break Presents New Challenges This Season (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 09:07:16 GMT)

    The All-Star break is almost here.

  • [New York Times] Cousins’ Jumper at Buzzer Falls as Kings Beat Suns 85-83 (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 06:04:20 GMT)

    DeMarcus Cousins made a jumper as time expired and finished with 28 points and 12 rebounds, giving the Sacramento Kings an 85-83 victory over the Phoenix Suns on Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Cousins’ Jumper at Buzzer Falls as Kings Beat Suns 85-83 (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 06:01:33 GMT)

    DeMarcus Cousins made a jumper as time expired and finished with 28 points and 12 rebounds, giving the Sacramento Kings an 85-83 victory over the Phoenix Suns on Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Dolan Email Rips Irate Knicks Fan (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 04:26:44 GMT)

    The Madison Square Garden chairman responded to the fan’s critical email with one of his own, calling the fan a “hateful mess.”

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Blake Griffin’s Out, and Clippers Are Crushed by the Thunder (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:55:24 GMT)

    After announcing that the All-Star forward Blake Griffin would be out indefinitely, Los Angeles fell to its most lopsided defeat of the season, a 131-108 loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder.

  • [New York Times] Raptors Beat Spurs, Deny Popovich 1,000th Win (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:49:36 GMT)

    San Antonio’s worst shooting performance of the season kept Spurs coach Gregg Popovich waiting for his 1,000th career win.

  • [New York Times] Aldridge Scores 24 as Portland Beats Houston 109-98 (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 02:52:34 GMT)

    LaMarcus Aldridge scored 24 points and Damian Lillard added 23 to help the Portland Trail Blazers fight off a late charge from the Houston Rockets for a 109-98 victory on Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] ‘Starters’ Podcast Gains Audience as NBATV Show (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 02:33:43 GMT)

    Viewership for the television program, which began about a year ago, has increased 24 percent this season, and podcast downloads have risen 22 percent, according to the network.

  • [New York Times] Hill’s Late Layup Lifts Pacers Past Hornets, 103-102 (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 02:04:35 GMT)

    George Hill’s baseline layup with 4.9 seconds left lifted the Indiana Pacers to a come-from-behind 103-102 victory over the Charlotte Hornets on Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Conley’s 21, 16 From Gasol Lead Grizzlies Past Hawks, 94-88 (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 02:04:27 GMT)

    Mike Conley had 21 points and six assists, Marc Gasol finished with 16 points and 10 rebounds and the Memphis Grizzlies beat the Atlanta Hawks 94-88 on Sunday.

  • [New York Times] Gasol’s Late Dunk Lifts Bulls to 98-97 Victory Over Magic (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 01:55:53 GMT)

    Pau Gasol dunked in the rebound of Derrick Rose’s missed layup with 9.4 seconds left, and the Chicago Bulls rallied for a 98-97 victory over the Orlando Magic on Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Timberwolves Win 3rd Straight, 112-101 Over Pistons (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 01:47:03 GMT)

    Nikola Pekovic scored 29 points and Kevin Martin added 24 to lift the Minnesota Timberwolves to their third straight victory, 112-101 over the sluggish Detroit Pistons on Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] National Basketball Association Roundup (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 01:04:10 GMT)

    Los Angeles Clippers forward Blake Griffin missed Sunday’s game against the Oklahoma City Thunder due to a staph infection in his right elbow and will have surgery Monday in Los Angeles.

  • [New York Times] Clippers’ Griffin Set for Surgery, Out Indefinitely (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:37:18 GMT)

    Los Angeles Clippers All-Star forward Blake Griffin will undergo surgery for a staph infection on his right elbow and will be sidelined indefinitely, the National Basketball Association team announced on Sunday.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks vs. Heat doesn’t have same fire anymore (Mon, 09 Feb 2015 01:57:16 GMT)

    The Knicks visit Miami for a Monday game against the Heat, a matchup between two struggling teams.

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    48 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2015.02.09)”

    1. Dolan do what Dolan do.
      How does a CEO or an organization send an email like that directly to a fan?
      1. Spelling errors and incomplete sentences merely point to just how ignorant this fellow is.
      2. Addressing an irate fan directly in such a brutal way in which he goes so far as to make shit up about a person he knows nothing about and accusing them of an addiction is just bad business.
      3. The mean-spirited tone of the note gave us insight into a person’s mind that we suspected, had read in reporting before, but never really seen so directly.
      4. Suggesting to a fan that they cheer for another team is about as bad as it gets in sports, and reflects the hubris of an organization unmoored from its fan base.
      5. Fuck James Dolan.

    2. Dolan do what Dolan do.

      How does a CEO or an organization send an email like that directly to a fan?
      1. Spelling errors and incomplete sentences merely point to just how ignorant this fellow is.
      2. Addressing an irate fan directly in such a brutal way in which he goes so far as to make shit up about a person he knows nothing about and accusing them of an addiction is just bad business.
      3. The mean-spirited tone of the note gave us insight into a person’s mind that we suspected, had read in reporting before, but never really seen so directly.
      4. Suggesting to a fan that they cheer for another team is about as bad as it gets in sports, and reflects the hubris of an organization unmoored from its fan base.
      5. Fuck James Dolan.

      +1.

    3. My stance is that I was a Knicks fan long before James Dolan owned the team and I will not allow his idiocy to run me off of my team. My stance makes no sense.

      I started attending Knicks games when I was 8. I went to countless Knicks games during the Bernard King-era, the Bernard King-is-injured-era, the Patrick Ewing-era and the post-Patrick Ewing-era. I raised my daughter to be a Knicks fan (but raised her in my wife’s church). For the last five years, I have shared with this community. Knicks are core to my identity. And the Knicks’ owner would hate me, if he knew how passionately I love the team DESPITE (and to spite) him.

      We need to a poet of Walt Whitman’s caliber to adequately address this situation.

    4. Hey y’all –
      Long time lurker, 1st time poster. Love this place and decided it was time to contribute a bit.

      Lots of people seem down on Mudiay’s shooting – but when comparing his 3pt% to D’angelo Russell, or any other NCAA player for that matter, shouldn’t we be taking into account the difference in 3pt line distances between the NCAA and CBA?
      i.e.: the ncaa 3 point line is 20.75ft,
      the fiba 3 pt line is 21.65 ft to 22.15 ft (I think CBA uses FIBA distances?), and
      the nba 3pt line is 22ft to 23.75 ft

      because of these differences, couldn’t Mudiay theoretically be a “better” shooter, but play in the cba and therefore have a lower 3pt %? I’m not saying that he is or isn’t, just that it doesn’t seem like an apples to apples comparison to me.

    5. The knicks are winning a lot – for another team.
      Mozgov 28 minutes
      Shumpert 29 minutes
      JR Smith 34 minutes

      Mozgov is playing very well. Young, strong, active. He’s a legitimate back to the basket center. . . . And the knicks just threw him in the deal like he was nothing.

    6. “The knicks are winning a lot – for another team.
      Mozgov 28 minutes
      Shumpert 29 minutes
      JR Smith 34 minutes”

      Yeah, Shumpert and JR playing big minutes in a blowout win over the Lakers really shows how great they’re playing.

      Don’t miss either of them.

    7. “Mozgov is playing very well. Young, strong, active. He’s a legitimate back to the basket center. . . . And the knicks just threw him in the deal like he was nothing.”
      The Knicks played the Magic right before the Melo trade and I remember a reporter asking Stan Van Gundy about a rumor that the only thing holding up the deal was that the Knicks were reluctant to give up Mozgov. Van Gundy laughed and said something like, “He’s a nice player, but the Knicks are going to let HIM stand in the way of making a deal? You’re kidding, right?”

    8. In a way VanGundy is correct but on the other hand that logic means you shouldn’t refuse anything they would ask. At any rate it is more the totality of what was being asked than each piece as if they are separate one on one deals. 7>4 7>2 7>1 7>1 but 7< 4+2+1+1.

    9. I think Shump threw down more dunks yesterday than he did in all his Knicks games this season combined.

    10. Exactly. Not being willing to draw a line in the sand anywhere is at least part of the Knicks have managed to consistently get the short end of pretty much every deal they have been a part of for the last 15 years. Mozgov was never going to be a star, but he was a solid young player with the potential to turn into a legit quality starting center, which he has. He’s not really anything special, but you can’t help but notice how much he has helped the Cavs the last couple weeks.

    11. He’s not really anything special, but you can’t help but notice how much he has helped the Cavs the last couple weeks.

      The post trade Cavs are a great example of how valuable guys who aren’t really fucking terrible can be. Players like Bargs or Waiters can really kill a team. The Cavs had nothing at center and nothing at the wing. JR, Shump, and Mozgov are all at least mediocre players. Sometimes that’s all you need.

      Also, relaxing in Miami seems like a great way to regain athletic explosiveness.

    12. NBA New York Knicks @nyknicks · 3h 3 hours ago
      Coach Fisher says Andrea Bargnani is available to play tonight in Miami.

      Give it up, Philly and Minny.

    13. Dangerously winnable game tonight against a pretty shitty, pretty banged up Miami team.

      Chill out tho. Bargs got this shit. He’s back Baby! We should get a contest going for predicting how long he lasts before hurting himself again. I got 6 minutes.

    14. Three things —
      – I realize that you have to draw a line in the sand when negotiating; I just thought it was a funny story.
      – Looking at their roster, the Heat should be better than they are. Maybe LBJ made Spoelstra look like a better coach than he is?
      – If you are predicting 6 minutes for Bargs, I am definitely taking the under.

    15. Weirdly enough, the thought of Bargs actually playing makes me more interested in watching the game. It’s not that I expect great things from him, but it’s something new to see.

    16. Looking at their roster, the Heat should be better than they are. Maybe LBJ made Spoelstra look like a better coach than he is?

      Or maybe Bosh isn’t very good? Bronless Bosh is actually shooting a lot more frequently from outside than he did the last few years, and posting his least efficient scoring season since 2004-I suppose that could be on Spo falling in love with his floor spacing or whatever.

    17. Among the reasons that I don’t post as much (or as vociferously) as I used to: DRed says everything I want to say, and with more independent research, which, with all respect, doesn’t take much.

      But I want to add, here, that Bosh is not 24 years old anymore. It’s easy to get locked into a player as a sort of “brand.” Was Bosh good when he played for Toronto? Yes. He was. Not hall-of-fame good, but good enough to be sort of worth a max contract when he reached the Heat. (Still: if the Heat had had better options at PF/C, I’m thinking they’d have been four-time champions. They nearly won one with Joel Fucking Anthony at center.)

      I think it’s easy to delude yourself into thinking that a player’s prime is much longer than it is because players tend to rush up to their peak between 20-24, then sit at that peak for a few years (barring injury) and then tail off slowly, until they fall off a cliff at some point in their thirties. Again, we’re separating the top players from the middle-of-pack players by maybe one additional FGM out of every twenty shots. It’s not hard to miss the slow decline from efficiency, because the gap is not as large as we would like to believe. Everyone’s an athlete in the NBA, except Juwan Howard, who is a zombie.

      So yeah, Johnno: When I look at that Heat roster, I see some top-level players (Wade, Bosh), some hyper-efficient role players (Andersen), and some championship-winning guards (Cole, Chalmers). But it’s 2015, not 2010.

      Also, Hassan Whiteside shoulda been a Knick.

    18. There should be a Bargs guessing game. # minutes, when he enters, does he make it though the game, if not what does he injure etc.
      I say he enters with 4 minutes left in the first, makes it through the game and plays 15 minutes but misses the remainder of the season with plantar fasciitis.

    19. Bosh’s nosedive has gone widely unnoticed, but yeah he’s not very good anymore. He’s not scoring efficiently and he’s rebounding like Bargnani after a few energy drinks or some shit (so still bad, just better than normal Bargs). He probably has a worse contract than Melo, so we have that going for us, which is nice.

    20. I put the over under at 12 minutes of game time, so by that standard you are an optimist

    21. Yeah, I’ll man up and say that I was one of the people who thought Bosh would bounce back this year, and after a good start he has been very mediocre. He’s still pretty good defensively, and I do think his jump shooting can be an important ingredient in a high powered offense, but I thought he’d head back down in the post more this year, and it hasn’t happened. Like Jowles said it’s pretty easy to miss the slow decline, and I think even more so when a player’s role is evolving over time as Bosh’s was. I definitely mistook some of his decline for strategic tinkering by Spoelstra etc. I still think he could be a valuable starter on a championship level team (Houston would have been a really great fit), but he’s definitely not a first option any more, and probably not even a 3rd option on a really great team.

    22. I know that it’s not likely, but is anyone else terrified that Bargnani will come back and start playing regular minutes and be just good enough to help the Knicks win a bunch of games and screw up their draft seeding? Could there be a more fitting going away gift that he could give us as fans?

    23. Thanasis dropped in 30 efficient points the other night for the Westies. If he keeps up the good play for another few weeks we might as well cut someone shitty and call him up.

    24. My prediction for Bargs:

      18 minutes, 12 points on 5-13 shooting, 3 boards, 2 assists, 2 blocks.

    25. Fun Bargs fact: Getting 3 boards in 18 minutes would be an above average rebounding performance from Andrea, who is 7’0″ tall.

    26. Bargs might actually be able to defend Bosh one on one as well as anyone on the team.

      we have him and Whitesides to see tonight, so I am going to be watching.

    27. Thanasis dropped in 30 efficient points the other night for the Westies. If he keeps up the good play for another few weeks we might as well cut someone shitty and call him up.

      saw the highlights on youtube – his shot suddenly looks different from when i’ve watched him before (we’ve been to 3 D-League games now) — other than that the 3’s are going in — a lot more arc on his shot. would be amazing to see him make some progress.

      but no way do I call him up. what would be the purpose other than to burn one year of control over his rights?

    28. Re: Bosh – probably can’t discount lack of motivation. It’s easy to play hard when you’re winning every night and you know you’re going deep into the playoffs. After the last 4 years… this year must be a serious downer.

      Or maybe the answer is that your teammates actually DO matter in how productive you are.

    29. Thanasis dropped in 30 efficient points the other night for the Westies. If he keeps up the good play for another few weeks we might as well cut someone shitty and call him up.

      Yeah but we just have so many shitty options of who to cut, how can we ever decide?

      I say call up Thanasis next year. I think we can keep him on a rookie contract for longer that way.

    30. because of these differences, couldn’t Mudiay theoretically be a “better” shooter, but play in the cba and therefore have a lower 3pt %? I’m not saying that he is or isn’t, just that it doesn’t seem like an apples to apples comparison to me.

      Mudiay shot 58% from the free throw line. The guy isn’t a good shooter (at this point in time, that is). No one thinks the guy is a good shooter. His biggest advocate would concede that he’s not a good shooter. That’s just not his game. Luckily, he does enough other things well that he’s still a great prospect.

    31. Sorry. I never want to see Bargs again – in the NBA. Send him off to play with Stephan Marbury. There is NO player that has pissed me off like him. Well….maybe Eddie Curry. He tried to play even when he weighed more than the rest of the team combined.

    32. mudiay’s ft shooting is a major red flag but in his defense… 30 ft’s is a pretty small sample… will bynum who replaced mudiay has comparable and slightly better #s than mudiay which is also telling.. both in a good and bad way…. it’s just tough to say how engaged he was playing overseas….

    33. I love Charles Barkley, but when you say that JR Smith is better off now that he’s away from the idiots in NY you lose some credibility.

    34. I love Charles Barkley, but when you say that JR Smith is better off now that he’s away from the idiots in NY you lose some credibility.

      That made sense to me. Jr Smith + poor organization + poor leadership + big city = bad JR Smith. I don’t get where he loses credibility for catching on to what the rest of us already knew.

    35. That made sense to me. Jr Smith + poor organization + poor leadership + big city = bad JR Smith. I don’t get where he loses credibility for catching on to what the rest of us already knew.

      I think it was the complete opposite.

      JR Smith = idiot = bad influence on young players = distraction in locker room = giving away Shumpert just to get rid of him.

      He was a total idiot and distraction in Denver and China also. Karl tossed him from Denver. He went to China and they threw him out of China. Just think about that. They love Marbury but they threw JR Smith out of the country because he was such a big distraction to the team, refused to show for practice etc….

    36. I think it was the complete opposite.

      JR Smith = idiot = bad influence on young players = distraction in locker room = giving away Shumpert just to get rid of him.

      He was a total idiot and distraction in Denver and China also. Karl tossed him from Denver. He went to China and they threw him out of China. Just think about that. They love Marbury but they JR Smith out.

      Or, you surround him with some decent leadership and you get a 6th Man of the Year.

      Look, I won’t argue that JR is a textbook headcase, that he can be infuriating, and is generally a moron. But when he has some firm direction and guidance, he’s a valuable player. Is he worth the effort? I don’t know. I’d say no because there are players just as good that don’t need such babysitting, but you can’t deny his value when he’s in a situation that more or less forces him to wise up for a bit.

    37. Or, you surround him with some decent leadership and you get a 6th Man of the Year.

      Or it was a contract year so he toned himself down for a short period of time until he got the money and then he went out partying again.

      You are giving him way too much credit.

      Lebron will keep him in line for awhile. Being away from a big city will limit his options for going out, getting stoned, and showing up hungover to playoff games. But it’s a mortal lock he’s going to become a distraction because that what he is until he matures, if ever.

    38. You are giving him way too much credit.

      You mistake me. I’m not giving him credit. Giving him credit would be saying he did it on his own for a contract. I’m giving the credit to Jason Kidd, ‘Sheed, and Kurt Thomas.

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