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Knicks Morning News (2025.09.04)

  • Julius Randle Left Influencer Habit Behind With New York Knicks – Sports Illustrated

    09/04/2025 11:00:00
     
  • REPORT: Ben Simmons to choose between retirement, Knicks, mystery team – Posting and Toasting

    09/04/2025 10:00:00
     
  • How the inevitable NBA twists can alter the Knicks’ outlook – New York Post

    09/04/2025 10:20:00
     
  • Pablo Torre on how Jalen Brunson arrived to Knicks: Certainly it was interesting – HoopsHype

    09/04/2025 08:56:58
     
  • After Kawhi Leonard bombshell, insider reveals Knicks star may face similar scandal – sportingnews.com

    09/04/2025 08:10:18
     
  • Knicks receive a ‘quiet warning’ after Kawhi Leonard allegations – BasketNews.com

    09/04/2025 06:57:31
     
  • Ben Simmons Considering Retirement Despite NBA Teams Circling – Basketball Forever

    09/04/2025 04:19:06
     
  • Knicks free agency target reportedly considering if he wants to continue basketball career – Yahoo Sports

    09/04/2025 03:33:51
     
  • Pablo Torre Hints That He Might Shift His Focus To Jalen Brunson And The Knicks As His Next Target – Barstool Sports

    09/04/2025 02:08:32
     
  • It’s Championship Or Bust For The New York Knicks – TWSN Sports

    09/04/2025 00:45:18
     
  • Jalen Brunson, Knicks Draw Attention After Kawhi Leonard Report – Athlon Sports

    09/03/2025 23:50:06
     
  • Ben Simmons Considering Retirement Despite Interest From NBA Teams – Sports Illustrated

    09/04/2025 00:16:38
     
  • Ben Simmons retirement row: Ex-Clippers star takes a call on Knicks offer; ‘considering options’ – Hindustan Times – Hindustan Times

    09/03/2025 23:07:49
     
  • Pablo Torre Teases Jalen Brunson, Knicks Story After Bombshell Kawhi Leonard Report – Sports Illustrated

    09/03/2025 22:46:22
     
  • Julius Randle on Knicks pressure, quitting weed, and finding his “Mamba Disciple” mindset – Posting and Toasting

    09/03/2025 23:23:22
     
  • Knicks among suitors for Ben Simmons, who is questioning if he wants to continue NBA career, per report – CBS Sports

    09/03/2025 23:24:41
     
  • Knicks’ deal with Jalen Brunson isn’t salary-cap cheating — despite criticism – Yardbarker

    09/03/2025 23:23:54
     
  • 33 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2025.09.04)”

    I responded to Bob in the previous thread, and if anyone wants to continue yesterday’s discussion I suggest we do it there and leave this thread clean for the folks who are turned off by it.

    “Silver investigated the Clippers in 2019, when Kawhi joined LA. All this stuff started in 2022, when Kawhi signed his extension.”

    Ah, but did it? We know the Aspire contract started in 2022, and only because Aspire went bankrupt. But was there an earlier 3 year contract with some other company that didn’t go bankrupt, or some other payments being made?

    There probably was another shady contract when Kawhi joined. But I don’t think it makes Silver look bad since it hasn’t been found yet. This would never have been found, either, if Aspiration didn’t file Chapter 11. So I think Silver is free to proceed without egg on his face. Ballmer covered his tracks effectively enough to thwart his investigation.

    I think the bigger problem for Silver is that Ballmer has been a pretty great NBA owner. If he cripples the Clippers, that’s just not good for business. They’ve become the 5th most valuable team in the sport. Void Kawhi’s contract and take away all their picks, they go into a spiral and become the old Clippers again.

    who wants to set the over/under for cam thomas 50 point games this year? scorned rental player who averaged 27.6 per 36 on a 57.5% ts playing on team that will be happy to lose games. seems like a bad situation where the nets eventually lower his pt to play their 10 million mediocre rookies and cajole him into dropping his ntc by the deadline.

    When’s the last time a relatively high-profile restricted free agent bet on themselves and took the qualifying offer, like Thomas just did? I wonder if any of Kuminga, Grimes, or Giddey follows suit.

    It does seem like the decline of the player-friendly RFA route is an unintended consequence of the current CBA, at least from the NBPA pov. Guys like Thomas, Grimes, Kuminga and Giddy are really getting screwed.

    https://nypost.com/2025/09/03/sports/knicks-one-of-two-teams-interested-in-ben-simmons-if-he-wants-to-keep-playing/

    “Ben Simmons has generated interest from the Knicks and another team but is also questioning whether he even wants to continue playing in the NBA next season.”

    Yeah, hard pass. Ordinarily, I might be okay with a veteran who isn’t 100% sure he wants to keep playing. But given Simmons’ history, I assume he’s already checked out. If he signs with us or the mystery team, it won’t end well.

    I know that this is “the year” and all that, but if management goes with Ben Simmons, I will only see upside. This is because I am higher on our young guys…particularly Kolek, Dadiet, and Diawara…than most here. I think all three of those guys can play meaningful minutes if we get hit with injuries. I left Huk off the list because most here are in agreement that he is already a viable NBA player.

    I also see Simmons as more of a skilled backup big than a backup PG. If he does have to play some PG, you could do a lot worse, especially with some of the defensively challenged guys he would share the floor with.

    More generally, I am trusting the FO’s due diligence on how to fill that spot because I don’t ascribe to the “it’s really our 11th guy” theory.

    I hope this works out for Thomas and it’s possible the Nets’ offer was so mediocre this route made sense, but man, it would just be very hard for me to advise anyone to pass on a guaranteed $40M or so. This conundrum/trap is of course why so few guys fully bet on themselves like this, but best of luck to him. Would definitely be funny to see the Nets lose an undoubtedly flawed but intriguing player for nothing.

    Simmons weighing retirement is…certainly a datapoint. I still think his upside is higher than that of all the non-Beasley minimum options, but I do prefer players who unambiguously want to play in the NBA. I suppose I’ll have to trust the front office to evaluate his mental state.

    I mean if you’re the type of person to be skeptical about Fauci funding Wuhan and vaccines causing autism, wouldn’t you be skeptical of a medical paper paid for by the “American Institute for Economic Research”?

    I’m not skeptical about Fauci funding Wuhan. It is a certifiable fact that the NIH gave money to Eco Health Alliance who then passed it through to the PLA lab in Wuhan. That is a certifiable fact.

    If one believes this happened without Fauci’s knowledge, then, I don’t know what to say, but I’m not wearing the tin foil hat.

    As to whether I’m skeptical about the publisher/financier of the Declaration, certainly. The first thing any good science teacher teaches is when evaluating studies, take into consideration the biases of the examiner. Proclamation from authority figures must be analyzed for their merit. Is their data good and are their conclusions reasonable? In this case I think yes is the only answer.

    The data which was available in October 2020 and today both agree young people were three orders of magnitude safer than old folk like me and should have been treated in a way that produced less harm for them.

    And, of course, in that very same October of 2020 there was another example of looking at the proclamation of 55 impeccably credentialed authority figures and “wise men” that completely fooled half the nation.

    Bottom line… always question proclamations of authority figures and look at the underlying facts as best as they can be divined.

    But there was the whole “no knicks 1st round draft pick has been signed to an extension since Charlie Ward” streak thing that RJ Barrett supposedly ended in 2023. I thought Lee was exempted because he took the QO.

    i thought we were doing that fauci stuff on yesterdays thread (if at all) per hubies great suggestion

    Bob, keep your dumb shit in the previous thread so nobody has to read it.

    Sincerely,
    Everybody

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    Cam Thomas only played 781 minutes last year. During that time, he collected all of 12 steals (I’m pretty sure Hubert could equal that). If he had qualified minutes-wise, he would’ve ranked 2nd to last in the league in DBPM just ahead of Trae Young. I’m gonna side with the Nets on this one.

    But there was the whole “no knicks 1st round draft pick has been signed to an extension since Charlie Ward” streak thing that RJ Barrett supposedly ended in 2023.

    Fauci lied about the Charlie Ward Curse.

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    Yeah, I don’t think the Nets are wrong for holding a line and taking advantage of their leverage. Thomas feels like the very rich man’s Alonzo Trier. He has a place in this league, but it’s going to be a limited one, despite his abundant gift for scoring.

    Lee’s second contract was caught in the LeBron conundrum. The Knicks wanted to keep him, but needed all the cap space available for the “expected!?!” 2010 LeBron signing. Hence they offered him considerably more than the QO but insisted on a length of only 1 year. Not sure what that exactly means vis-a vis Charlie Ward and RJ, as you bring up a good point.

    “Ben Simmons has generated interest from the Knicks and another team but is also questioning whether he even wants to continue playing in the NBA next season.”

    That’s a pretty scary quote if you are considering him for your team, but I’d like to hear him actually say that and not depend on what could be BS coming from someone that doesn’t actually know what he’s thinking.

    not depend on what could be BS coming from someone that doesn’t actually know what he’s thinking.

    Is the BS coming from BS, or is it just BS? I honestly don’t think this is worth discussing because BS sucks.

    But there was the whole “no knicks 1st round draft pick has been signed to an extension since Charlie Ward” streak thing that RJ Barrett supposedly ended in 2023. I thought Lee was exempted because he took the QO.

    as a certified knicks traitor you should feign knowing that david lee is a human sorites paradox. he was also the first knick since 2001 to make the all-star team but actually was an injury replacement for iverson, so was he really? if you stare look enough at the words rookie extension you can actually make out a side profile of anthony fauci.

    I’m glad I’ve been so busy taking care of my 91 year old mother and special needs brother the last few days I missed yesterday’s thread.

    I need at least one venting post and then I’ll go back to my other responsibilities.

    IMO the US is currently full of people that are sociopaths, near sociopaths, so wildly arrogant they feel they can and should use their money or power to impose their will on others, soulless vermin that would sell their mother’s soul for high paying job or pile of cash, flat out mentally ill, have a delusional world view that leads to horrible policy when in power, that are so miserable with their own lives and lack of control/power they root for horrible things to happen to others and still others that border on Satanic evil that enjoy death and destruction and use money and power to instigate and promote it. The total is probably around 70% of the population and some of that 70% are CEOs, billionaires, in power politically etc.. along with the rest of us.

    When I was a boy many of the same problems existed in some of the very same places. Maybe I was a bit ignorant and naive back then, but I’d say it was closer to 10%-15% back then.

    If I’m even close to right (I am at least close enough to make the point) that’s an ugly graph that’s going to lead to an ugly outcome.

    We are doing a LOT of things wrong and need a major overhaul. And I’m not talking about the short term band-aid solutions that got us into this mess to begin with. I’m talking about finding core reasons, fixing them and sitting out all the time (maybe a generation or two) that it will take to reverse all these mental health issues.

    Is the BS coming from BS, or is it just BS? I honestly don’t think this is worth discussing because BS sucks.

    The thing is, despite all the baggage, injury risk & lack of shooting, Simmons is versatile defensively & can run an offense. Even now he probably adds more value than any of those other guys we are considering and also fits a specific need. We need several things, but we DEFINITELY need defense!

    I’d be happy if we could figure out a way to bring back Wright, Shamet and Payne. They’d all add something at the end of the bench. They aren’t top shelf backups, but they are all excellent 3rd string players.

    I have been Simmons curious but he’s not selling me with this “I don’t know If I feel like playing” schtick….

    if you stare look enough at the words rookie extension you can actually make out a side profile of anthony fauci.

    I didn’t see the Fauch, but I did see “Enron nookie text” which feels equally conspiratorial.

    agree with you strat but that would have been better being appended to the end of last nights thread per general mutual agreement here

    ok so i guess were not appending to last nights thread anymore its official lol i had thought it was a good idea but really dont care that much either way so carry on i spose

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