Found this interesting tidbit about Chris Jent on the web:
• Shooting Expertise
Jent built a strong reputation as a “shot doctor”—most notably working with LeBron James in Cleveland to refine his form and mechanics. He also transformed John Collins into a more reliable 3-point threat
I know a couple of ex-Villanova wings that would surely benefit from a “shot doctor”.
2
It seems like we have room to sign one vet min salary. In terms of keeping someone from last year, I’ve been hearing Landry Shamet’s name a lot and very little about Cam Payne. Is that just due to age and playoffs performance? Cam had pretty good production overall during the regular season and seemed to be universally liked in the locker room. He definitely had his moments of frustration and questioning why he was out on the floor, but I’m surprised there’s nothing about him given that he grew on me over the season.
It seems like we have room to sign one vet min salary. In terms of keeping someone from last year, I’ve been hearing Landry Shamet’s name a lot and very little about Cam Payne. Is that just due to age and playoffs performance? Cam had pretty good production overall during the regular season and seemed to be universally liked in the locker room. He definitely had his moments of frustration and questioning why he was out on the floor, but I’m surprised there’s nothing about him given that he grew on me over the season.
My guess would be the playoff performance plus Cam getting demoted in favor of Clarkson as the backup PG. Maybe Cam thinks he can get more playing time elsewhere.
It’s also possible the brass has faith in Kolek or Deuce to handle PG duties if Clarkson is washed. I do think PG will be deemphasized under Brown’s system and Deuce should be able to handle bringing the ball up and passing into the pinch post.
Personally, I’m worried about PG and would take Payne.
wonder what Chris Jent thinks of Cam’s shooting form.
If Leon hadn’t gotten us a steal in Jordan Clarkson, I’d be all for bringing Shamet back. He definitely outperformed my expectations last season. But if we’re gonna add a vet min guy from outside, then I think it needs to be someone with size and versatility. Amir Coffey or Ben Simmons would fit. I know folks are down on Simmons, but he would free Clarkson and Deuce up to do what they are best at at all times with that 2nd unit. I think we have the environment to get something out of him- especially with our recent coaching staff hires. Sure- it would stretch the rotation to 10 guys most nights and require some starters to play less, but that’s a refreshing change of pace from last season. This is definitely the season to take your home run swing and catch the league off balance.
Interesting take on Simmons and I definitely see your point re: freeing up Deuce and Clarkson.
I go back and forth on it though. Shamet is a known commodity, is a great shooter (and great off the catch) and is a pretty decent defender. He showed he can give good minutes in the ECF. Can Simmons do the same? I just don’t know.
Shamet would bring instant chemistry. Shamet might also allow Kolek more opportunities (haven’t given up on him yet!). With a new coach, new offensive system…it might be nice to bring back another known commodity who already has chemistry with the existing core.
I worry about Simmons and the chemistry too. Like if he gets very little PT, is he gonna pout or be a diva about it?
I thought Payne returned value on his minimum deal last season and particularly appreciated his impact on our 3PAr (0.37 with him off, 0.41 with him on). He did become unplayable in the playoffs, but that’s going to be true of the overwhelming majority of minimum signings and he even arguably snagged us game 1 against Detroit.
All that said, I’m hoping Brown implements a system that obviates our desperate need for someone to come in the game and chuck them up, and that Clarkson and Yabu’s playmaking can make up for losing Payne in that regard. So while I remain Payne sympathetic, I’d rather shore up positions where we have less depth.
Jordan Clarkson is a far, far superior basketball player to Cam Payne. There is literally nothing that Cam Payne does that Clarkson can’t do better, including playing PG. Y’all will become believers in short order.
Beyond the hyperbole, what I’m really saying is don’t waste a roster spot on a duplicative player. Shamet is a decent volume 3pt shooter, so even though he’s undersized, that would be a better way to go. Obviously Simmons or Brogdan would be better than either of them.
Regarding pre-season, I like that our first 2 games are overseas, then the rest at MSG. Trip will be a nice low-key way for coaching staff and team to bond. Assume Embiid is not flying to Abu Dhabi which allows us to play Mitch a bit…
Cam is a better 3 point shooter but overall, Z-Man, I believe you’re correct about Clarkson vs. Cam.
Yeah, I concur with the conclusion that Clarkson is more likely to help us win meaningful games than Payne, but the fact that Payne is the better shooter and more willing playmaker is not nothing. Payne really did give us injections we needed off the bench last season, which may have said more about the offense (or lack thereof) the starters ran than Payne himself.
It’ll be on Brown and co. to implement a system that enables the Clarkson/Payne tradeoff to workout in our favor. I think it’s doable because I think Clarkson is the better overall player all things considered, but it will require serious changes to the way our offense ran last season.
12 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2025.08.13)”
Found this interesting tidbit about Chris Jent on the web:
I know a couple of ex-Villanova wings that would surely benefit from a “shot doctor”.
It seems like we have room to sign one vet min salary. In terms of keeping someone from last year, I’ve been hearing Landry Shamet’s name a lot and very little about Cam Payne. Is that just due to age and playoffs performance? Cam had pretty good production overall during the regular season and seemed to be universally liked in the locker room. He definitely had his moments of frustration and questioning why he was out on the floor, but I’m surprised there’s nothing about him given that he grew on me over the season.
My guess would be the playoff performance plus Cam getting demoted in favor of Clarkson as the backup PG. Maybe Cam thinks he can get more playing time elsewhere.
It’s also possible the brass has faith in Kolek or Deuce to handle PG duties if Clarkson is washed. I do think PG will be deemphasized under Brown’s system and Deuce should be able to handle bringing the ball up and passing into the pinch post.
Personally, I’m worried about PG and would take Payne.
wonder what Chris Jent thinks of Cam’s shooting form.
If Leon hadn’t gotten us a steal in Jordan Clarkson, I’d be all for bringing Shamet back. He definitely outperformed my expectations last season. But if we’re gonna add a vet min guy from outside, then I think it needs to be someone with size and versatility. Amir Coffey or Ben Simmons would fit. I know folks are down on Simmons, but he would free Clarkson and Deuce up to do what they are best at at all times with that 2nd unit. I think we have the environment to get something out of him- especially with our recent coaching staff hires. Sure- it would stretch the rotation to 10 guys most nights and require some starters to play less, but that’s a refreshing change of pace from last season. This is definitely the season to take your home run swing and catch the league off balance.
Interesting take on Simmons and I definitely see your point re: freeing up Deuce and Clarkson.
I go back and forth on it though. Shamet is a known commodity, is a great shooter (and great off the catch) and is a pretty decent defender. He showed he can give good minutes in the ECF. Can Simmons do the same? I just don’t know.
Shamet would bring instant chemistry. Shamet might also allow Kolek more opportunities (haven’t given up on him yet!). With a new coach, new offensive system…it might be nice to bring back another known commodity who already has chemistry with the existing core.
I worry about Simmons and the chemistry too. Like if he gets very little PT, is he gonna pout or be a diva about it?
I thought Payne returned value on his minimum deal last season and particularly appreciated his impact on our 3PAr (0.37 with him off, 0.41 with him on). He did become unplayable in the playoffs, but that’s going to be true of the overwhelming majority of minimum signings and he even arguably snagged us game 1 against Detroit.
All that said, I’m hoping Brown implements a system that obviates our desperate need for someone to come in the game and chuck them up, and that Clarkson and Yabu’s playmaking can make up for losing Payne in that regard. So while I remain Payne sympathetic, I’d rather shore up positions where we have less depth.
Jordan Clarkson is a far, far superior basketball player to Cam Payne. There is literally nothing that Cam Payne does that Clarkson can’t do better, including playing PG. Y’all will become believers in short order.
Beyond the hyperbole, what I’m really saying is don’t waste a roster spot on a duplicative player. Shamet is a decent volume 3pt shooter, so even though he’s undersized, that would be a better way to go. Obviously Simmons or Brogdan would be better than either of them.
Regarding pre-season, I like that our first 2 games are overseas, then the rest at MSG. Trip will be a nice low-key way for coaching staff and team to bond. Assume Embiid is not flying to Abu Dhabi which allows us to play Mitch a bit…
Cam is a better 3 point shooter but overall, Z-Man, I believe you’re correct about Clarkson vs. Cam.
Yeah, I concur with the conclusion that Clarkson is more likely to help us win meaningful games than Payne, but the fact that Payne is the better shooter and more willing playmaker is not nothing. Payne really did give us injections we needed off the bench last season, which may have said more about the offense (or lack thereof) the starters ran than Payne himself.
It’ll be on Brown and co. to implement a system that enables the Clarkson/Payne tradeoff to workout in our favor. I think it’s doable because I think Clarkson is the better overall player all things considered, but it will require serious changes to the way our offense ran last season.
This site uses User Verification plugin to reduce spam. See how your comment data is processed.