Not a bad place to be in The Athletics’ summer power rankings.
Top NBA Free Agents still available. Who we getting with that vet min?
Al Horford
Amir Coffey
Malcolm Brogdon
De’Anthony Melton
Gary Payton II
Chris Boucher
Russell Westbrook
Ben Simmons
Malik Beasley
Trey Lyles
Cody Martin
Thomas Bryant
Landry Shamet
Seth Curry
Talen Horton-Tucker
Garrison Mathews
Monte Morris
Markelle Fultz
Alec Burks
Torrey Craig
Emoni Bates
Delon Wright
Precious Achiuwa
Charles Bassey
Bones Hyland
Cam Reddish
Richaun Holmes
DeAndre Jordan
Cory Joseph
Dalano Banton
Mo Bamba
Josh Richardson
Kessler Edwards
Bol Bol
Wendell Moore
Chris Duarte
Taj Gibson
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I mean, it has to be Alert Burns, take three, doesn’t it?
Yeah I’m betting on the return of Phallic Jerks
Not a bad place to be in The Athletics’ summer power rankings.
These mezzanine seats are pretty comfortable.
How did it take us this long to get to d-mar’s brilliant take on the name?
I honestly suspect we will get Simmons. Even though he’s a good fit in Sacramento, they just added McDermott, and that may fill the last roster spot.
I’d be very psyched because they are rotation-quality players:
Al Horford
Malcolm Brogdon
Chris Boucher
Malik Beasley (well not really!)
I’d be less psyched but intrigued:
Ben Simmons
Trey Lyles
Cody Martin
Markelle Fultz
Alec Burks
Cam Reddish (for no other reason than to fuck with E)
Meh, but sure, why not?:
Russell Westbrook
Amir Coffey
De’Anthony Melton
Bol Bol
Gary Payton II
Mo Bamba
Josh Richardson
Thomas Bryant
Landry Shamet
Precious Achiuwa
Charles Bassey
Bones Hyland
Richaun Holmes
Delon Wright
(Cam Payne?)
Do not break glass even in case of emergency:
Taj Gibson
Chris Duarte
Wendell Moore
Dalano Banton
Seth Curry
Talen Horton-Tucker
Garrison Mathews
Monte Morris
Kessler Edwards
DeAndre Jordan
Cory Joseph
Torrey Craig
Emoni Bates
“Yeah I’m betting on the return of Phallic Jerks”
Good one!
Maybe already well known, but this:
If Prigioni were to be hired as associate head coach, this would be considered a promotion, as Begley notes.
Does Prigioni have a specialty as an assistant coach? Like, would he be the offensive coordinator? Or would he, as someone requested yesterday, just be teaching all our guards how to steal the ball from behind their opponents?
We could definitely use an expert in ATO plays
the vibes would be great if we could get prigioni back into our building not sure how likely it is tho
I like Amir Coffey’s stats…what’s wrong with him?
Maybe Prigs speaks French?
sorry he only speaks spanish and english
coffey 2.2 rebounds per game and 1.1 assists per game in 24 minutes per game no bueno
These mezzanine seats are pretty comfortable
For the second time in Leon’s tenure I am willing to say we are above the mezzanine. (The first time of course was approximately mid January 2024.)
The most exciting thing about this upcoming season is the absence of the certainties that Thibs brings with him. I don’t necessarily know that Mike Brown is going to be better than Thibs, but I do go into the season without the weight of “no matter what happens, Josh Hart and Mikal Bridges are going to play more than any other player in the NBA.” That alone opens up a world of possibilities that were not open before.
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horford likely to the warriors per reports
coffey 2.2 rebounds per game and 1.1 assists per game in 24 minutes per game no bueno
Makes sense. Thanks.
Thought his size, decent team defense + elite level shooting should be a no brainer for a minimum wage player. A bigger more versatile version of Shamet.
I don’t necessarily know that Mike Brown is going to be better than Thibs, but I do go into the season without the weight of “no matter what happens, Josh Hart and Mikal Bridges are going to play more than any other player in the NBA.” That alone opens up a world of possibilities that were not open before.
One possibiity is that we’ll be worse in the regular season because we’ll be giving more minutes to inferior players.
Worse than that, I’ve been arguing that at 33 there’s a distinct possibility Clarkson is going to play like the version we’ve seen the last two years (or get hurt again) and be worse on a two-way basis than Payne/Shamet.
The problem with Thibs and minutes was that he kept players in too long when we were solidly ahead or behind because the thought of blowing a single regular season game was more intolerable to him than having banged up tired players in the playoffs. Eliminate just that and the distribution looks a bit better. Did he win an extra couple of games that way? Maybe. If he did, then maybe we’ll lose those this year but be fresher for the playoffs.
The bigger problem was lineups.
1. Not trying Towns/Mitch enough late in the regular season so they were more prepared for the playoffs.
2. Not using Deuce with the starters instead of Hart more often despite the better spacing, Deuce as the POA defender, and data suggesting it was very effective.
3. Using Hart and Precious together way too often despite the potential spacing issues and the data suggested the combo was terrible.
IMO our potential upside this year is going to come from a healthy productive Mitch for a full season (if he stays healthy) and Yabu over Precious if Yabu plays adequate defense. We’ll see if Brown can be more creative with the offense and use better combinations, but I think that’s not a guarantee. His reputation on offense comes from one season with the Kings where he used Fox (a speed demon) to run a hyper fast offense. Our players are not that.
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if horford goes to golden state maybe they wont need looney anymore coffey being a bigger shamet is a great comp between the two id rather have coffey theyre basically the same age but for some reason coffey doesnt seem to have been around as long
“At 33 there’s a remote possibility Clarkson is going to play like the version we’ve seen the last two years (or get hurt again) and be worse on a two-way basis than Payne/Shamet, because 33 years old is when similar players like Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford were winning 6MoY awards, and Clarkson’s injury last year that ultimately required surgery is fully recoverable.”
fify
Looney already signed elsewhere.
wow missed that looney is a pellie now thanks alan
It essentially says that he’s been great value as a UDFA find, and performed well over the year, but once the Clips acquired Bogdan, he slipped out of the rotation and never played a single minute in the playoffs. So putting him on the level of, say, Shamet, seems accurate…meaning he’s not a guy to get at all excited about but you could do much worse and he’s definitely worthy of being an emergency rotation player at the least.
speaking of dancing, what the fuck happened to pags…
hard for me to believe he ain’t somewhere else tapping away on some keys to piss on some bodies’ day…
my feelings are kind of hurt, think he may be stepping out on us on some other blog site… like we’re no longer worthy of his words…
hmmmmm, yes, the dog days of summer are a serious test for any KB true believer…
come back pags, I miss you…
Loved Hubert’s description of how the year might go, and appreciate Strat’s analysis, but some things Strat missed, above and beyond Mitch and Yabu.
Figuring out the Bridges conundrum (or having Bridges figure it out).
Getting Bridges, OG, and yes even KAT more involved in the offense, or at least more consistently involved (let’s find a way to kill the “disappeared entirely for two quarters” thing…).
Figuring out how Jalen can contribute to that last point, without sacrificing his game to any great degree.
Injuries, or lack thereof.
There are others (e.g., Deuce continuing to grow his game, etc.), but my sense is they’re not as likely to impact things dramatically.
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One possibiity is that we’ll be worse in the regular season because we’ll be giving more minutes to inferior players.
Worse than what, exactly?
Worse than we would be if we treated every game like game 7? Maybe.
But worse than the last two years? In this Eastern conference? I see no way.
We’re probably going to be the Cavs of last year, i.e. a team that gets a huge bounce from a coaching change. They went from a 49 win team under Bickerstaff to a 64 win team under Atkinson pretty much on vibes (or what milo called “the ebb and flow of franchise tides”).
I’m not expecting 64 wins like the Cavs but I do expect high tide for the Brunson-KAT-OG-Bridges-Hart core. (I’m not going to say the Brunson era bc there is likely a total revamp of his supporting cast later in his Knicks career.) Between the coaching change, the dramatic destruction of Indiana and Boston, and the underrated Garland toe injury, there’s going to be a lot of wind in our sails.
I also think it helps tremendously that OKC won last year. Repeating is hard, and they don’t strike me as a team that can do it.
Last year I felt confident we did not have a puncher’s chance because we likely had to go through three unique championship caliber teams and I saw no way that was possible with Thibs. But this year there’s only one other good team in the East, and they’ll likely be a lot less good than they were last year based on the tide. We just have to beat them and one team in the West. And there’s no Thibs to hold us back.
If ever there is a time, this is it. If prediction day were today I’d be at 58 wins and an NBA Finals matchup against Jokic.
Without digging into it too much, these 3 would be my top choices:
Al Horford
De’Anthony Melton
Chris Boucher
Simmons is intriguing, but worse as a non-shooter.
I’d probably take Shamet over Coffey, I think he takes more 3s per 36.
“But this year there’s only one other good team in the East”
Famous last words…
His reputation on offense comes from one season with the Kings where he used Fox (a speed demon) to run a hyper fast offense. Our players are not that.
I think you’re overlooking what he did with Sabonis as an offensive hub at the 5. I suspect the biggest reason he got the job is to do that with KAT.
“If ever there is a time, this is it”
For better or worse, no question, and should be the mantra of our next season. Suggest Hubie trademark it before MSG plasters it all over the place…
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Not a bad place to be in The Athletics’ summer power rankings.
Top NBA Free Agents still available. Who we getting with that vet min?
Al Horford
Amir Coffey
Malcolm Brogdon
De’Anthony Melton
Gary Payton II
Chris Boucher
Russell Westbrook
Ben Simmons
Malik Beasley
Trey Lyles
Cody Martin
Thomas Bryant
Landry Shamet
Seth Curry
Talen Horton-Tucker
Garrison Mathews
Monte Morris
Markelle Fultz
Alec Burks
Torrey Craig
Emoni Bates
Delon Wright
Precious Achiuwa
Charles Bassey
Bones Hyland
Cam Reddish
Richaun Holmes
DeAndre Jordan
Cory Joseph
Dalano Banton
Mo Bamba
Josh Richardson
Kessler Edwards
Bol Bol
Wendell Moore
Chris Duarte
Taj Gibson
I mean, it has to be Alert Burns, take three, doesn’t it?
Yeah I’m betting on the return of Phallic Jerks
These mezzanine seats are pretty comfortable.
How did it take us this long to get to d-mar’s brilliant take on the name?
I honestly suspect we will get Simmons. Even though he’s a good fit in Sacramento, they just added McDermott, and that may fill the last roster spot.
I’d be very psyched because they are rotation-quality players:
Al Horford
Malcolm Brogdon
Chris Boucher
Malik Beasley (well not really!)
I’d be less psyched but intrigued:
Ben Simmons
Trey Lyles
Cody Martin
Markelle Fultz
Alec Burks
Cam Reddish (for no other reason than to fuck with E)
Meh, but sure, why not?:
Russell Westbrook
Amir Coffey
De’Anthony Melton
Bol Bol
Gary Payton II
Mo Bamba
Josh Richardson
Thomas Bryant
Landry Shamet
Precious Achiuwa
Charles Bassey
Bones Hyland
Richaun Holmes
Delon Wright
(Cam Payne?)
Do not break glass even in case of emergency:
Taj Gibson
Chris Duarte
Wendell Moore
Dalano Banton
Seth Curry
Talen Horton-Tucker
Garrison Mathews
Monte Morris
Kessler Edwards
DeAndre Jordan
Cory Joseph
Torrey Craig
Emoni Bates
“Yeah I’m betting on the return of Phallic Jerks”
Good one!
Maybe already well known, but this:
If Prigioni were to be hired as associate head coach, this would be considered a promotion, as Begley notes.
Does Prigioni have a specialty as an assistant coach? Like, would he be the offensive coordinator? Or would he, as someone requested yesterday, just be teaching all our guards how to steal the ball from behind their opponents?
We could definitely use an expert in ATO plays
the vibes would be great if we could get prigioni back into our building not sure how likely it is tho
I like Amir Coffey’s stats…what’s wrong with him?
Maybe Prigs speaks French?
sorry he only speaks spanish and english
coffey 2.2 rebounds per game and 1.1 assists per game in 24 minutes per game no bueno
For the second time in Leon’s tenure I am willing to say we are above the mezzanine. (The first time of course was approximately mid January 2024.)
The most exciting thing about this upcoming season is the absence of the certainties that Thibs brings with him. I don’t necessarily know that Mike Brown is going to be better than Thibs, but I do go into the season without the weight of “no matter what happens, Josh Hart and Mikal Bridges are going to play more than any other player in the NBA.” That alone opens up a world of possibilities that were not open before.
horford likely to the warriors per reports
Makes sense. Thanks.
Thought his size, decent team defense + elite level shooting should be a no brainer for a minimum wage player. A bigger more versatile version of Shamet.
One possibiity is that we’ll be worse in the regular season because we’ll be giving more minutes to inferior players.
Worse than that, I’ve been arguing that at 33 there’s a distinct possibility Clarkson is going to play like the version we’ve seen the last two years (or get hurt again) and be worse on a two-way basis than Payne/Shamet.
The problem with Thibs and minutes was that he kept players in too long when we were solidly ahead or behind because the thought of blowing a single regular season game was more intolerable to him than having banged up tired players in the playoffs. Eliminate just that and the distribution looks a bit better. Did he win an extra couple of games that way? Maybe. If he did, then maybe we’ll lose those this year but be fresher for the playoffs.
The bigger problem was lineups.
1. Not trying Towns/Mitch enough late in the regular season so they were more prepared for the playoffs.
2. Not using Deuce with the starters instead of Hart more often despite the better spacing, Deuce as the POA defender, and data suggesting it was very effective.
3. Using Hart and Precious together way too often despite the potential spacing issues and the data suggested the combo was terrible.
IMO our potential upside this year is going to come from a healthy productive Mitch for a full season (if he stays healthy) and Yabu over Precious if Yabu plays adequate defense. We’ll see if Brown can be more creative with the offense and use better combinations, but I think that’s not a guarantee. His reputation on offense comes from one season with the Kings where he used Fox (a speed demon) to run a hyper fast offense. Our players are not that.
if horford goes to golden state maybe they wont need looney anymore coffey being a bigger shamet is a great comp between the two id rather have coffey theyre basically the same age but for some reason coffey doesnt seem to have been around as long
“At 33 there’s a remote possibility Clarkson is going to play like the version we’ve seen the last two years (or get hurt again) and be worse on a two-way basis than Payne/Shamet, because 33 years old is when similar players like Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford were winning 6MoY awards, and Clarkson’s injury last year that ultimately required surgery is fully recoverable.”
fify
Looney already signed elsewhere.
wow missed that looney is a pellie now thanks alan
Re: Amir Coffey (like the drink, only not spelled the same), here’s a synopsis of last year with the Clips.
It essentially says that he’s been great value as a UDFA find, and performed well over the year, but once the Clips acquired Bogdan, he slipped out of the rotation and never played a single minute in the playoffs. So putting him on the level of, say, Shamet, seems accurate…meaning he’s not a guy to get at all excited about but you could do much worse and he’s definitely worthy of being an emergency rotation player at the least.
wakey bakey…time to get up and dance…
speaking of dancing, what the fuck happened to pags…
hard for me to believe he ain’t somewhere else tapping away on some keys to piss on some bodies’ day…
my feelings are kind of hurt, think he may be stepping out on us on some other blog site… like we’re no longer worthy of his words…
hmmmmm, yes, the dog days of summer are a serious test for any KB true believer…
come back pags, I miss you…
Loved Hubert’s description of how the year might go, and appreciate Strat’s analysis, but some things Strat missed, above and beyond Mitch and Yabu.
Figuring out the Bridges conundrum (or having Bridges figure it out).
Getting Bridges, OG, and yes even KAT more involved in the offense, or at least more consistently involved (let’s find a way to kill the “disappeared entirely for two quarters” thing…).
Figuring out how Jalen can contribute to that last point, without sacrificing his game to any great degree.
Injuries, or lack thereof.
There are others (e.g., Deuce continuing to grow his game, etc.), but my sense is they’re not as likely to impact things dramatically.
Worse than what, exactly?
Worse than we would be if we treated every game like game 7? Maybe.
But worse than the last two years? In this Eastern conference? I see no way.
We’re probably going to be the Cavs of last year, i.e. a team that gets a huge bounce from a coaching change. They went from a 49 win team under Bickerstaff to a 64 win team under Atkinson pretty much on vibes (or what milo called “the ebb and flow of franchise tides”).
I’m not expecting 64 wins like the Cavs but I do expect high tide for the Brunson-KAT-OG-Bridges-Hart core. (I’m not going to say the Brunson era bc there is likely a total revamp of his supporting cast later in his Knicks career.) Between the coaching change, the dramatic destruction of Indiana and Boston, and the underrated Garland toe injury, there’s going to be a lot of wind in our sails.
I also think it helps tremendously that OKC won last year. Repeating is hard, and they don’t strike me as a team that can do it.
Last year I felt confident we did not have a puncher’s chance because we likely had to go through three unique championship caliber teams and I saw no way that was possible with Thibs. But this year there’s only one other good team in the East, and they’ll likely be a lot less good than they were last year based on the tide. We just have to beat them and one team in the West. And there’s no Thibs to hold us back.
If ever there is a time, this is it. If prediction day were today I’d be at 58 wins and an NBA Finals matchup against Jokic.
Without digging into it too much, these 3 would be my top choices:
Al Horford
De’Anthony Melton
Chris Boucher
Simmons is intriguing, but worse as a non-shooter.
I’d probably take Shamet over Coffey, I think he takes more 3s per 36.
“But this year there’s only one other good team in the East”
Famous last words…
I think you’re overlooking what he did with Sabonis as an offensive hub at the 5. I suspect the biggest reason he got the job is to do that with KAT.
“If ever there is a time, this is it”
For better or worse, no question, and should be the mantra of our next season. Suggest Hubie trademark it before MSG plasters it all over the place…
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