youre forgetting that cp3 wants nothing to do with being on the east coast and never has so in addition to not starting he would either have to move his family across country for a reserve role or be away from them for most of the year seems unlikely also not sure why you think hed take the vet minimum for this role and this location that he doesnt want
Yeah, CP3 ain’t happening for all the reasons Doogie says.
Recently, the only names Begley — the most plugged in beat writer by far — has mentioned are Simmons and Shamet, and Bondy (I think) said Simmons is a no go. So it sounds like it might just be Shamet by default?
shamet aint a point guard ill keep beating the drum for delon
I was kind of tempted by Simmons. Even though he’s not a scorer, he’s both a backup big and a point guard, which is nice flexibility. And I would be hoping that being in a better organization than the 76ers with Doc Rivers would help him get his head together.
I actually did the literally impossible once long ago, which is I fixed a girlfriend’s deeply emotionally fucked up problems. From a complete sociopath to a delightful human. I should probably be in a textbook somewhere. Then she left me.
Not holding out for Ben to ‘get better.’
(Especially in NY, where people are super-respectful and given to being ultra supportive in words and print…)
thats how it generally goes raven you show them the right way to act and then they take what they learned and are much better for the next person sorry it happened to you that way
#delon
Can you just imagine the James Edwards III storyline?
“Don’t Worry Ben, You’ll Make the Layup Next Time”
Ben Simmons’ blown layup at the end of regulation leading to a one-point loss to the Celtics is just another example of our shared human frailty…”
If you compare Simmons to Wright statistically, there is no comparison. Simmons had much better numbers last season.
You should look at the data before you reject Simmons out if hand.
CP3 would obviously be great but yeah we don’t have to discuss it. I’d probably lean Simmons over Wright even though Wright can shoot a little bit. Simmons is a lot younger and more versatile defensively, and we should be able to put more shooting on the floor in general this season such that we can cover for a non-shooter.
File all of this under “probably noise, but it’s July so fuck it,” but there are some interesting Simmons related stats:
-He made BKN’s offense about 5 PTS/100 better
-BKN’s AST/100 went from 25.4 to 28.8 with him on the floor
-BKN’s percentage of assisted at-rim shots went from 55% to 65% with him on the floor
-BKN’s 3PT% went from .335 to .382 with him on the floor, their above-the-arc percentage specifically increased from 33% to 39%, and their percentage of above-the-arc 3PM that were assisted went from 85% to 90%
I’m not nearly self-loathing enough to watch 2024-2025 Brooklyn Nets tape, but it seems like he still has a knack for finding shooters. Definitely works for me with a vet-min slot.
Thanks, Noble. I’m not terribly surprised as Simmons still clearly has some real skills — well, I’m very surprised at the 3pt improvements you note, given that he’s a 14% shooter from there and, you know, spacing, at a minimum.
Hey, if we got Ben I’d root for him. Seems like a nice guy. I might give up playing with lineup configurations, however, as even now trying to imagine what they might look like causes my brain to slip off the idea like it was a soap-covered slide…
For me, the concern about Simmons at the minimum is mostly about two things: his physical health and his locker room presence. I’m not worried about his mental health on the court as it pertains to making or missing shots, because he’s a vet’s minimum player who can be benched, waived, or traded. If he isn’t a cancer and is reasonably healthy, he can eat 1000 minutes and be a pretty good stand in for a 6-week injury issue to pretty much any rotation player.
I’m guessing there’s a good chance he doesn’t want to play for the Knicks or the Lakers (a theoretically excellent fit) because unlike the Nets and Clippers, where no one really gives a shit, he would be under intense scrutiny.
Apparently he (Simmons) is also being considered by Sacramento. He will probably get more playing time there so it might be better for him
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youre forgetting that cp3 wants nothing to do with being on the east coast and never has so in addition to not starting he would either have to move his family across country for a reserve role or be away from them for most of the year seems unlikely also not sure why you think hed take the vet minimum for this role and this location that he doesnt want
Yeah, CP3 ain’t happening for all the reasons Doogie says.
Recently, the only names Begley — the most plugged in beat writer by far — has mentioned are Simmons and Shamet, and Bondy (I think) said Simmons is a no go. So it sounds like it might just be Shamet by default?
shamet aint a point guard ill keep beating the drum for delon
I was kind of tempted by Simmons. Even though he’s not a scorer, he’s both a backup big and a point guard, which is nice flexibility. And I would be hoping that being in a better organization than the 76ers with Doc Rivers would help him get his head together.
I actually did the literally impossible once long ago, which is I fixed a girlfriend’s deeply emotionally fucked up problems. From a complete sociopath to a delightful human. I should probably be in a textbook somewhere. Then she left me.
Not holding out for Ben to ‘get better.’
(Especially in NY, where people are super-respectful and given to being ultra supportive in words and print…)
thats how it generally goes raven you show them the right way to act and then they take what they learned and are much better for the next person sorry it happened to you that way
#delon
Can you just imagine the James Edwards III storyline?
“Don’t Worry Ben, You’ll Make the Layup Next Time”
Ben Simmons’ blown layup at the end of regulation leading to a one-point loss to the Celtics is just another example of our shared human frailty…”
If you compare Simmons to Wright statistically, there is no comparison. Simmons had much better numbers last season.
https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=forall&year_min=2025&year_max=2025&player_id1=simmobe01&player_id2=wrighde01
You should look at the data before you reject Simmons out if hand.
CP3 would obviously be great but yeah we don’t have to discuss it. I’d probably lean Simmons over Wright even though Wright can shoot a little bit. Simmons is a lot younger and more versatile defensively, and we should be able to put more shooting on the floor in general this season such that we can cover for a non-shooter.
File all of this under “probably noise, but it’s July so fuck it,” but there are some interesting Simmons related stats:
-He made BKN’s offense about 5 PTS/100 better
-BKN’s AST/100 went from 25.4 to 28.8 with him on the floor
-BKN’s percentage of assisted at-rim shots went from 55% to 65% with him on the floor
-BKN’s 3PT% went from .335 to .382 with him on the floor, their above-the-arc percentage specifically increased from 33% to 39%, and their percentage of above-the-arc 3PM that were assisted went from 85% to 90%
I’m not nearly self-loathing enough to watch 2024-2025 Brooklyn Nets tape, but it seems like he still has a knack for finding shooters. Definitely works for me with a vet-min slot.
Thanks, Noble. I’m not terribly surprised as Simmons still clearly has some real skills — well, I’m very surprised at the 3pt improvements you note, given that he’s a 14% shooter from there and, you know, spacing, at a minimum.
Hey, if we got Ben I’d root for him. Seems like a nice guy. I might give up playing with lineup configurations, however, as even now trying to imagine what they might look like causes my brain to slip off the idea like it was a soap-covered slide…
For me, the concern about Simmons at the minimum is mostly about two things: his physical health and his locker room presence. I’m not worried about his mental health on the court as it pertains to making or missing shots, because he’s a vet’s minimum player who can be benched, waived, or traded. If he isn’t a cancer and is reasonably healthy, he can eat 1000 minutes and be a pretty good stand in for a 6-week injury issue to pretty much any rotation player.
I’m guessing there’s a good chance he doesn’t want to play for the Knicks or the Lakers (a theoretically excellent fit) because unlike the Nets and Clippers, where no one really gives a shit, he would be under intense scrutiny.
Apparently he (Simmons) is also being considered by Sacramento. He will probably get more playing time there so it might be better for him
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