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28 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2025.07.16)”
Stat line aside, how did Kolek look doing what he did yesterday? Was it just that the Nets roster isn’t as good as Detroit or Boston? Or did he do things that genuinely alleviated the concern from the first two games?
He shot very well. I don’t think that’s just attributable to worse defense.
I still think he struggled bringing the ball up, at least in the second half. When pressed in the halfcourt, he was able to slip the ball to Huk often enough and Huk would make a decision out of the short roll. That won’t work with Mitch and I’m not entirely sure it works with KAT.
Honestly, making shots has been a bigger issue for me, so seeing Kolek make a bunch of shots was reassuring.
We may see a lot of sets where Kolek starts off-ball so Deuce or Clarkson or Hart can bring it across halfcourt, when we see him at all.
Kolek played with a sense of urgency. I still think he got exposed as not athletic enough to be a rotation player for us. We already have enough small guards who are better than him.
Did anyone bother looking at Ben Saraf? It’s hard to have anything remotely resembling Israeli patriotism these days, given our murderous politics, but I’m curious how he’ll do in the league.
lets pick skapintsev back up from the blazers they have too many centers he wont cost anything and hes cromulent for sure
The Athletic:
Despite rumors, LeBron likely to stay in L.A.
Amid the constant speculation recently about Lebron James’ future, both the Lakers and people close to the NBA’s all-time leading scorer expect that he will be with the organization for training camp once the season begins this fall, league sources told The Athletic.
Kolek’s shot falling opens up everything for him, so not only were the shots great to see, but the passing lanes felt more open. Someone mentioned this yesterday but you can pretty much ignore whatever his assist total was–he had a number of great corner finds that guys proceeded to brick.
That said, totally agree with EB that he still looked susceptible to ball pressure and that will pretty much render you DOA as anything more than a 3rd point guard or so in the NBA.
I thought he looked better than the box score. A few non-finishes that almost went down, stayed aggressive throughout. I think he has a chance to be a solid versatile wing. If I were a Nets fan he’d probably be the only pick I was excited about.
saraf is shooting 30.4% from the field by the way diawara is shooting 42.1% trying to figure out the love for him here
I wrote a long post towards the end of yesterday’s thread comparing pre-draft Siakam to Diawara.
At 20 years old (they were both born in April) Siakam was preparing to enter his freshman year at New Mexico State. He went on to have an excellent year statistically, especially in regard to rebounding, medium-usage efficient scoring, and shot-blocking. But according to the report I read, he only made 3 perimeter shots (jumpers) all year, and for his entire 2-year college career he was 3-17 from 3.
In watching Siakam’s college film, what stood out is his elite burst and coordination, especially in transition, including timing and footwork. Even with those long arms and legs, he didn’t look gangly at all, like Diawara looks right now.
The main differences I see with Diawara…he looks like he just had a growth spurt and isn’t used to his arms and legs yet. He gets pushed around in the paint, is a bit slow to react to situations. I watched a lot of the 2+ hour video of his play at Cholet, and it seems like he had license to do whatever he wanted, launching 3’s at will, taking ill-advised drives, etc. I like the motor but it is not elite and coordinated like Siakam’s was. His footwork is mediocre, and he’s gotten blown by in summer league by both smaller and bigger players.
However, I feel pretty confident in saying that he has a very good feel for the game, maybe better than the feel he has for his body. In summer league, even though he handled the ball quite a bit and made a bunch of passes in traffic, he has only 3 TOs in 66 minutes. The mechanics on his shot aren’t horrible, yesterday he hit a very Siakam-looking midrange shot. He clearly loves to defend, especially out high on the perimeter.
I see a sure-fire NBA rotation player in this 20yo kid. Not an elite player like Siakam, but I think that based on what I’m seeing in summer league, my initial take that his floor is Precious Achiuwa is pretty accurate. As to his ceiling, it’s all about where he tops out in his development. I would like to see that development occur here rather in Europe, because it seems like he has developed some bad habits there and it would be better to not let those habits get ingrained. I would 100% give him that rookie deal and play him mostly in the G-League, which I think has gotten better in terms of a good place for players to develop NBA-transferrable habits.
“lets pick skapintsev back up from the blazers they have too many centers he wont cost anything and hes cromulent for sure”
I would be outraged if we rostered this certified stiff.
As to Kolek, I will continue to believe that Summer League is just not a place where a player like him can thrive. He was getting double-teamed on inbounds plays and many times when he crossed the midcourt line.
Kolek is the kind of PG that needs good players on the floor with him. He’s the quintessential pass-first PG, and when he doesn’t have anyone to pass to and the defense can key on him, he’s not nearly as effective as a score-first PG.
I think the offense will not be an issue. What I was mostly looking for is defensive development, and while summer league players are obviously easier to defend, I really liked what I saw. He has to be able to keep his body in front of bigger players and to develop Brunson’s knack for drawing offensive fouls. He needs to be better in jumping passing lanes and making quick rotations. What will keep him off the floor more than anything else is if he gets targeted and exploited on every defensive possession, and I think he knows that.
I think he will be just fine.
I sorta think we need a permanent KB sticky, all caps:
“KEVIN KNOX LOOKED GREAT IN HIS FIRST SUMMER LEAGUE”
If a footer along the lines of “He made first team all-league in front of guys like JJJ and Trae Young who only made second” is deemed warranted, that might be a good idea, too.
Always nice to wake up and agree with Z-Man on various things.
Not at all convinced Diawara is Siakam 2.0, or even a poor man’s Siakam, or even a Precious floor for that matter, but I’ve slowly come around to being intrigued with his energy (dives to the floor first!) and length. Can’t teach those, and he’s young enough that maybe you can teach him all the basketball stuff. Agree with wanting him around. Let’s find out.
Also agree that Summer League isn’t a great place for Kolek, as scrubs really focused on him as the team’s all-star, but so pleased he turned things around. And agree about needing decent players around him, the number of assists he should have had were legion.
I did watch him a few times in the second half on D and he sometimes was lost in space, a very bad thing. If I make the last game I am going to try and focus on his defensive play — better than watching whoever we’re playing fail to execute their O.
I still like Delon as the ‘break glass in case of Jalen’s ankle’ guy, something about experience (and he showed it for us last year, albeit in a short stint). But I hope Kolek sticks and gets real run.
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander made neither first team nor second team all-tournament in the 2018 summer league. Two other point guards — Collin Sexton and Trae Young — made, respectively, first and second team.
Good analysis by Z-Man, but the connection with the floor of Precious doesn’t work. There’s zero question that Diawara’s peak in the NBA could be below where Precious is.
Care around the term “floor” is important.
SI.com, 2018 Summer League Winners and Losers:
Ummmm … yeah.
If we’re worried about Kolek based on SL performance, imagine how Rockets fans are feeling about #3 pick Reed Sheppard, who is shooting 36-32-70 and is averaging 2.5 assista to 4.5 TOVs.
On another note, Hukporti is averaging nearly 15 rebs/36 and 4 blocks/36. Also nearly 8 fouls/36, so there’s that.
Thanks Noble.
“There’s zero question that Diawara’s peak in the NBA could be below where Precious is.
Care around the term “floor” is important.”
Well sure, in absolute terms, his “floor” is below Achiuwa. I’m only sharing an opinion that based on what I’m seeing, I’d be very surprised if he tops out at that level, because it would mean that his development completely stalled at nearly the level he is as a young 20yo. I think it’s a certainty that he will become stronger, smarter, and more coordinated (footwork-wise) than he is right now. So to top out at Precious’s level would mean that he hardly has any development re: his shooting, dribbling, rebounding, defense, or b-ball IQ/court awareness. In other words, it seems reasonable to me that he will very probably get to at least the Precious level just by inertia, and that stalling below that level would be an outlier outcome. He already seems to have a better feel for the game and passing chops than Precious has right now.
Honestly, it’s more of an indictment of Precious than a compliment to Diawara. Precious has demonstrated that he’s not really a legit rotation player on a good team in the NBA, mainly because his development totally stalled at age 22. He has all the physical measurables and athleticism to have become a better player, but the combination of a broken shot and poor feel for the game has created a lower ceiling for him than was expected when he was drafted at #20.
To be the ultimate off-season pedant, sounds like you’re arguing that the bottom of his ceiling is ‘somewhat better than Precious.’ But you agree his floor is wash-out, although you don’t think that’ll happen (but tip of hat to Bob for presciently noting that possibility for all intriguing summer-league players via our Knicks Warning Label Kevin Knox).
I wish there were more players I wanted to pay attention to, but I guess Kolek and now Diawara isn’t too bad for Summer League. Much as I desperately want him to work out, not holding my breath for Dink. I will continue to root for Luka Scuka because name, and honestly he’s not been bad, but he’s also not been good.
I hope Dadiet can come back for the last game, but at this point, it feels like other than maybe Huk, most of the kids’. primary action early in the season will come in Westchester.
Re: Knox, even in summer league he had red flags, one of which was mentioned in that blurb. He shot 35% from the field and had 2.5 asts vs 4.0 TOVs.
Thing is, Knox was a terrible defender, which was evident in college and even in summer league. It’s a lot easier to carve out an NBA career if you are a plus on D.
And he’s an example of a player that totally stalled in his development. Even his supposed best skill (3pt shooting) actually regressed!
Anyway, dreaming on a 51st pick that we never heard of is a lot cooler than wishcasting on a high lottery pick that KB unanimously hated, yet saw a brief glimmer of hope for in SL.
I’m not worried about Kolek because of SL, I’m worried about Kolek because his lack of athleticism has been a concern for a long time and SL is reinforcing that as a legitimate worry.
Re: Precious, one of his main red flags as an NBA player is his utter inability to pass the ball. For his career his AST% is 7.0 while his TOV% is 12.1%. I can’t imagine Diawara ever being that bad as a passer. When you combine Precious’ passing woes with his shooting woes, you get a guy who is very limited in terms of where you can play him on offense, he kind of has to be an undersized defensive C rather than a versatile 2-way wing.
So while Diawara’s shot might top out at a Precious-like level, he has other stuff he can do on O, and that makes him playable as a plus-sized wing rather than an undersized C.
“I’m not worried about Kolek because of SL, I’m worried about Kolek because his lack of athleticism has been a concern for a long time and SL is reinforcing that as a legitimate worry.”
Well of course that’s a worry, and always will be. He’s not gonna get more athletic.
The question is, how does a player with Kolek’s athleticism carve out a niche as an effective NBA player? Who are the role models? What does he need to improve on to get there?
I don’t think you can take away much from SL in terms of answering those questions. Pre-season will be a much better indicator.
Oh — and Superman. Fun. Silly, and full of holes, but fun. Probably not worth spending much time thinking about. Just enjoy it and the popcorn.
Saw it with a full house of drunken seniors. Very weird, rowdy experience. Possibly recommended, although probably difficult to replicate.
Now have to go find Alan’s review…
Also, as Lafayette once sung: “Immigrants – we get the job done!”
Summer league 2018 game 1 thread, because why not?
Annoyed we haven’t nailed down our coaching staff before SL. Not worried about Tyler or Pacome being properly evaluated because that will happen in practices. But the young undeveloped guys are going to be evaluated based on what they are doing in Vegas and seems logical that having the full staff opining is better than not.
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