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Wednesday, November 14, 2018

Knicks Morning News (2015.02.28)

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks down Pistons in double OT to snap 8-game skid (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 05:33:33 GMT)
    The undermanned Knicks pulled off a feat Friday night many doubted they’d accomplish again with Carmelo Anthony done for the season.

  • [New York Post] Execs: Knicks have legit shot to snag Greg Monroe next season (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 03:45:23 -0500)
    AUBURN HILLS, Mich. — Pistons general manager and coach Stan Van Gundy had a chance to lock up burly power forward Greg Monroe last summer with a long-term deal when…

  • [New York Times] Blazers Come From Behind for 115-112 Win Over Thunder (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 07:49:30 GMT)
    After the Portland Trail Blazers overcame Russell Westbrook’s third straight triple-double, Damian Lillard sensed his team was recapturing its form of earlier this season.

  • [New York Times] Ellington’s Big 4th Quarter Helps Lakers Beat Bucks 101-93 (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 06:16:14 GMT)
    No matter that Wayne Ellington missed his first six shots through three quarters.

  • [New York Times] Surging Pacers Beat Cavaliers 93-86 With James, Irving Out (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 06:04:20 GMT)
    George Hill took center stage with the biggest stars sitting.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Snap 4-Game Skid, Beat Short-Handed Kings 107-96 (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 05:40:25 GMT)
    Tony Parker scored 19 points, Kawhi Leonard had 17 points and seven rebounds, and the San Antonio Spurs snapped a four-game losing streak with a 107-96 victory over the short-handed Sacramento Kings on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Knicks 121, Pistons 115, Double Overtime: Knicks Outlast Pistons to Halt a Skid (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 05:11:56 GMT)
    The Knicks, who had lost eight straight games, won in double overtime with help from Shane Larkin’s 3-point play in the final minute.

  • [New York Times] Bulls Expect Derrick Rose to Return After Surgery (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 04:56:54 GMT)
    The team’s general manager, Gar Forman, described the surgery on Rose’s right knee on Friday as minor and said that Rose would be out four to six weeks.

  • [New York Times] Favors Has 21 Points, 10 Rebounds for Jazz (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 04:34:20 GMT)
    Derrick Favors had 21 points, 10 rebounds and three blocks, Trey Burke came off the bench to score 19 points and the Utah Jazz beat the struggling Denver Nuggets 104-82 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Cavaliers Lose to Pacers Without James, Irving (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 04:34:13 GMT)
    LeBron James couldn’t carry the Cavaliers on his sore back Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Surging Pacers Hold Off Short-Handed Cavaliers 93-86 (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 04:19:20 GMT)
    George Hill took center stage with the biggest stars sitting.

  • [New York Times] Knicks Top Sluggish Pistons 121-115 in Double OT (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 04:10:20 GMT)
    Shane Larkin’s three-point play in the final minute of the second overtime helped the New York Knicks snap their eight-game losing streak with a 121-115 victory over the Detroit Pistons on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Jones Has Season-Best 26 Points as Rockets Beat Nets 102-98 (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 04:05:01 GMT)
    Terrence Jones scored a season-high 26 points, James Harden made the tiebreaking free throw with 43 seconds left and followed that with a jumper, and the Houston Rockets beat the Brooklyn Nets 102-98 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Paul, Jordan Lead Clippers Past Grizzlies 97-79 (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 04:04:42 GMT)
    Chris Paul had 19 points and 13 assists, and DeAndre Jordan added 15 points and 22 rebounds to lead the Los Angeles Clippers past the Memphis Grizzlies 97-79 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Ajinca Lifts Pelicans Past Heat, 104-102 (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 04:04:34 GMT)
    Alexis Ajinca made the go-ahead layup with 26 seconds left and scored a career-high 24 points to help the New Orleans Pelicans won their fourth straight, 104-102 over the Miami Heat on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Butler Leads Bulls Past Timberwolves, 96-89 (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 03:43:55 GMT)
    The Chicago Bulls got a positive update on Derrick Rose, and then used another big night by Jimmy Butler to beat the Minnesota Timberwolves 96-89 on Friday.

  • [New York Times] Hot Start by Millsap Helps Hawks Beat Magic 95-88 (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 03:19:35 GMT)
    Paul Millsap scored 14 of his 20 points in the first quarter and the Atlanta Hawks recovered after losing an early 16-point lead to beat the Orlando Magic 95-88 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Nerlens Noel Leads 76ers Past Wizards, 89-81 (Sat, 28 Feb 2015 02:55:20 GMT)
    Nerlens Noel had 14 points and 13 rebounds in the Philadelphia 76ers’ 89-81 victory over the Washington Wizards on Friday night.

  • 24 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2015.02.28)

    1. d-mar

      RIP Mase.

      I went to a ton of those games back in the 90’s, and when the crowd chanted “DE-FENSE” it really meant something. Mason, Oakley, Ewing, Harper, Starks – they could lock down anyone. And Mase would guard any player, from point guard to center. Plus, he developed some nice little post moves to go along with a pretty reliable jumper.

      Thanks for the memories, Locksmith.

    2. Z-man

      Just heard that Anthony Mason died at age 48. That really hurts. He is definitely in my short list of all-time favorite Knicks, and I go back to the 1960’s. Dude was terrifying on both ends, the perfect lunchpail player from the most physical era ever.

      http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2013/09/11/nb90s-vol3-mason.nba/

      This is a great clip from the Knicks high water mark of the ’90s, listen for Mase’s thoughts re D…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK08kxJDFwY

    3. Eyal

      Thanks for the video Z-man. What a unique player he was, one of the few that could truly surprise you on the court with moves that didn’t seem possible for a guy this big. RIP Mase.

    4. DRed

      Damn. Sad news. Mase embodied the 90s Knicks for me in the way he looked like a brute but played a surprisingly artistic game. He was one of the very best passing forwards of his generation, and a precursor to a multi-position player like Draymond Green, playing both forward spots and even occasionally center with success. RIP big man.

    5. Z-man

      On another note, I’m not sure what to make out of Greg Monroe. He’s a good post player and rebounder, but doesn’t block many shots for his size and has no range. Not sure I’d offer him any more than, say, $12 million a year, although he does have youth on his side.

    6. Z-man

      Also, I was not impressed with Reggie Jackson at all. Doesn’t seem to have the b-ball IQ to match the salary he will command.

    7. Brian Cronin

      I don’t even get what Phil Jackson likes about Reggie Jackson. He doesn’t seem to fit at all.

    8. hoolahoop

      It’s always weird when someone you know dies. We went to the same high school and had a common coach (at different times).
      He used to try to play tough guy, sometime trying to keep a stern face, but I remember talking to him in the knicks locker room and mentioning how tough coach Wolk was, and he gave me that big white smile.
      RIP Mase.

      Everyday on this side of the earth is a good one.

    9. hoolahoop

      Regarding the draft, have any of these guys hinted they’re coming out?
      the knicks should have several potential candidates.
      Everyone’s counting on a first overall pick, but even with the worst record, there’s a better chance they’ll pick 4th than any other spot. What if one or two of those guys decides to stay in college (unlikely) or gets injured?

    10. Brian Cronin

      Everyone’s counting on a first overall pick, but even with the worst record, there’s a better chance they’ll pick 4th than any other spot.

      They have a better chance of picking fourth than either 1, 2 or 3 on an individual basis, but the odds are much better than they will pick either 1, 2 or 3 instead of 4, (something like a 2/3 chance versus 1/3 chance). So if they finish with the worst record, odds are they’re getting one of the top three picks. So I think they already can say “We’re getting one of Towns, Okafor and Russell” (if they finish with the worst record, of course. No sure thing).

    11. Will the Thrill

      Why would Greg Monroe be any better of a pairing for Melo than Amar’e? They both don’t play defense, don’t pass very much, and score off of post-ups. The only difference I see with them is that Amar’e was better at scoring while Monroe is better at rebounding. We all know how the Amar’e-Melo pairing utterly failed, so why would we get a very similar player?

    12. Z-man

      “Everyone’s counting on a first overall pick, but even with the worst record, there’s a better chance they’ll pick 4th than any other spot. ”

      This is true but misleading. In practice, the odds are almost 2 to 1 in our favor that the highest draft seed will end up with one of the top 3 picks. It does happen, though!

      I can’t imagine either Towns or Okafor not coming out. Mudiay is a no-brainer. Not sure about Russell, but he’s pretty likely to come out. Let’s just hope that Phil doesn’t pull a Frederic Weis on us.

    13. SJK

      I really hope we don’t go after Monroe. Who knows if Phil agrees, but it’s been proven pretty clearly that Melo is most effective playing the 4, so going after a Monroe type player doesn’t really make sense to me. I’d be happy with the off-season if we signed two 2-way wing players like Danny Green, Matthews, Carroll, or Afflalo and then drafted either Russell, Okafor, or Towns and filled the remaining holes with mid-level players on mid-level contracts.

      Then if Melo felt like we hadn’t done enough, let him demand a trade. If not, we’d be a decent team, not good but decent, with flexibility to make a move should some possibility open up.

      Of course, the odds we actually do this are slim, but that’s gotta be the best course of action.

    14. yellowboy90

      I see Khris Middleton is getting some love at Sloan. The Larry Sanders buyout and Knight Trade really hurt teams chances to outbid the Bucks for Middelton at a lower price. I personally would take the risk and sign him to a Parsons type deal, language and all.
      http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11654821/how-dallas-mavericks-stole-chandler-parsons-houston-rockets

      In one of his first interviews after Houston elected not to match the Mavericks’ offer sheet to Parsons, Morey told SportsTalk 790 AM in Houston: “That structure of that [contract] is literally one of the most untradeable structures that I’ve ever seen.”

      The wrinkle that made it so: Parsons signed a tricky three-year deal with the Mavs, with an option to return to free agency after Year 2, as opposed to the four-year offer sheet Dallas, or any other external suitor, could have lavished on him…And that led him to the three-year construction, featuring the Year 2 player option and a maximum 15 percent trade kicker. He then took to it Cuban, convinced that the new formula would put the most pressure on Houston to let Parsons go if the Rockets hoped to maintain the utmost flexibility. For the following reasons:

      • Players in the first year of a matched offer sheet can’t be traded without their consent.

      • With the ability to become a free agent after the second year, Parsons would likely have diminished trade value to small-market teams fearful he’d simply leave at the first opportunity … while also potentially dissuading big-market teams that prize flexibility from trading for him and then seeing Parsons decide to opt in for the third year.

      • The trade kicker in this contract could also prove to be even more expensive than usual, were Parsons to be dealt, if the salary cap rises as dramatically as some are projecting thanks to the TV money expected to pour into the league in the near future, as ESPN.com’s Larry Coon explains in greater detail here.

      to be cont.

    15. hoolahoop

      If the knick finish in last place:
      25% chance of getting first pick
      46.5% chance of getting first or second pick
      64.3% chance of getting first – third pick

      35.7% chance of getting fourth pick
      ————
      If they finish second to last:
      20% chance of getting first pick
      38.7% chance of getting first to second pick
      55.8% chance of getting first – third pick

      44.2% chance of getting fourth of fifth pick

    16. yellowboy90

      If you are willing to spend the money on Green why not Middelton who affects the game on both ends and can guard 3-4 positions? I realize that kind of contract would lead to the Knicks only having early bird rights on him but I think it is worth the risk. Who knows maybe a 4 yr max deal would get him out of Milwaukee. Either way I think they should go after him his numbers all around are great. Plus he is only 23, Draymond turns 25 in 4 days.

      I wonder if it has to be either or? In my perfect dream World the summer would go Middleton, Towns/Russell/Okafor, Draymond Green, and Ajinca with the exception. If GSW matches then I hope the knicks would use the Green money on Joseph and Koufos.

    17. SJK

      I forgot about Middleton, but yeah he’d be great. My point was more that we should be going after 2 way wing players to pair with Melo playing 4 and not trying to hand max contracts to guys like Greg Monroe thereby limiting our future flexibility. I don’t see how we could realisitcally get both Middleton and Draymond though, both being RFAs.

    18. Brian Cronin

      If the knick finish in last place:
      25% chance of getting first pick
      46.5% chance of getting first or second pick
      64.3% chance of getting first – third pick

      35.7% chance of getting fourth pick
      ————
      If they finish second to last:
      20% chance of getting first pick
      38.7% chance of getting first to second pick
      55.8% chance of getting first – third pick

      44.2% chance of getting fourth of fifth pick

      That’s why they really need to finish with the worst record.

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