Knicks Sign Maurice Ndour

THANK YOU PHIL JACKSON!


According to the Daily News:

The Knicks now have 14 players on guaranteed contracts after agreeing to terms with forward Maurice Ndour on a two-year deal, bringing in a power forward who shined for New York’s Summer League squad last year.

When the Knicks failed to keep Ndour last year, Mr. Gibberman did an excellent analysis of the forward. If you’re not sure why to be slightly excited by this deal, read that post.

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63 thoughts to “Knicks Sign Maurice Ndour”

  1. Also there was this blurb:

    The next guy up on the stat line is Maurice Ndour. He caught my eye early on with his high energy game, and the stats back it up. Maurice tied with Kristaps for the team lead with 3.1 blk/36, and he was very active on defense. Not to sleight our hometown hero, but Ndour is the anti-Melo and would pair well with the Knicks star. A 6-9 forward, he should be able to play both spots and take the tougher defensive assignment. The Senegalese Stuffer averaged 14.8 pts/36 on 53.1% ts%, and only 1.5 to/36, a decent rate for a defender.

  2. I was a big advocate for signing Ndour last summer, so I’m pumped! I wish they had more than one open roster spot, though, as the back of their bench is quite thin.

  3. Separately, it appears Oklahoma wants to move Westbrook sooner than later.
    So what would the knicks need to do to get him?

  4. I was hoping that Phil would sign one of Christian Wood, Jameel Warrney, or NDour. So I am pumped right now.

  5. Wood is an interesting case. On talent and skill he definitely deserves to be in the league, but he’s reported to have had some off court issues that I think seems to be giving teams pause around the league about going for him.

  6. From the write-up N’Dour seems like a mobile defensive presence. You really can’t go wrong with that.

  7. Westbrook would be with the Knicks only if we traded Rose + KP I’m pretty sure. Which Is not happening because 1. KP is considered untouchable and 2. Because Noah and Lee kind of explicitly wanted to play with Rose and came to NY under that assumption.

    Not happening.

    Happy about the Ndour signing. Guy is good!

    Who does everyone want to see the last bench slot go to? Randle, Baker, someone else? Cut Plumlee and add a 2nd slot. I want Baker but if Randle performs in training camp I want him on a partial guaranteed contract so he can play in the D-League for us

  8. We could definitely use a 3rd PG. Dinwiddie is out there. Chalmers might be the best of them all if he recovers from his achilles tendon injury. We could probably do a 1+1 with him on the cheap considering his injury. Phil would have to examine him first, of course!

  9. Yeah, say Rose bruises his thigh and has to rest for a week-who is backing up Jennings?

  10. Yeah, say Rose bruises his thigh and has to rest for a week-who is backing up Jennings?

    Sasha?

  11. And Phil reverses perhaps his greatest error in his tenure at the head of the Knicks, failing to secure Ndour last year after SL! I remember the anger and angst.

    He’s baaaaaack!
    :-)

  12. With NDour joining us, this team has the potential to break the Dubs all time winning record from last season.

  13. First, Plumlee’s 1st year is guaranteed so he can’t be cut. (is this correct???) Second, Sasha is your 3rd string point guard. Looks like the Celtics are favorites to trade for Westbrook. Sixers are going to trade at least one of their bigs.

    I love the Ndour signing too. High energy. Has long arms and plays defense. He can also score. With him, we’ll have a number of young freshmen/sophomores on the roster to go with our aging vets.

  14. So, I skimmed through the comments on the Gibberman link. I hate when I read comments on old threads and think to myself, “What a stupid comment” and then realize that I was the one who wrote it. Despite the fact that it appears that, last year, I was in favor of signing Darion Atkins over Ndour, I really like this signing.

  15. @12
    Nah, even with Ndour, there’s no way the Knicks touch 70 wins. No way. Book it.

    ;-)

  16. Everyone is allowed to renege sometimes!

    If Westbrook gets trade to the Celtics do people thing he’s a lock to reup with them? I sincerely hope not.

  17. I love Westbrook to the Cs. He’ll leave them high and dry in the summer. I hope badly he’d leave them. Thomas, Westbrook, Crowder, Johnson, and Horford is a scary proposition though.

    Wouldn’t it be awesome for Boston to give up a huge bag for Westbrook for him to leave anyway? Like if they gave up Brown, the 2018 1st, Smart, and something else to make salaries match and then boom! Westbrook to the Knicks to play with Noah, Lee, Melo, and KP after the Knicks win 50 games behind KPs breakout year and Noah’s completely healthy season.

  18. I can see NDour guarding LBJ in the ECFs later this season and making his life a living hell.

  19. Pretty sure they have to give up Jaylen Brown if they want Westbrook

  20. Good signing. A little out of left field considering he didn’t seem to be on our radar this off-season. Hopefully he has fully recovered. As a further plus, we can get the Forrest Moon of N’dour jokes happening again. What a time to be a Knicks fan.

    Interesting though that we have all but stitched up the team. The scouts and Phil mustn’t see a lot in any of the summer league guys outside of Baker and Plumlee. Randle would be nice to give a run, but given his age it seems like he is probably about as good as he might get. Could be wrong though.

    I like the idea of of taking a flyer on Chalmers. Solid vet in my mind and probably would have been a hotter commodity if not for his injury. I would like to see us take a crack at him on a Sasha type deal.

  21. I remember last year a number of posters throwing fits after Dallas signed him, only for Dallas to cut him 2 weeks later.

    I take it the Knicks didn’t really like anyone else from their summer league squad and it sounds like Ndour played at a high level in pre-Olympic competition.

  22. I remember last year a number of posters throwing fits after Dallas signed him, only for Dallas to cut him 2 weeks later.

    I think Dallas cut him because of the stress reaction in his leg (at least that’s what I recall the injury being) rather than because of his play. He was listed as indefinite, so I think they cut him for the sake of freeing up a roster spot rather than waiting for him to recover.

  23. Reading that Ndour thread from last year makes me even more puzzled why people on this website keep disagreeing with me

  24. @20 I’m just not sure about Chalmer’s health and timeline. I did read that he was ahead of schedule and he would be a good addition. We could even stash Baker, Randle and Plumlee at Westchester and sign one additional player, giving us a roster 18 deep. Phil is full of surprises this offseason so anything is possible. Even another trade or two.

  25. Reub, we can stash Plumlee in Westchester, but he would still take up a roster spot. He is signed to a guaranteed NBA contract. Only way he doesn’t count against our 15-man is if we release him.

  26. Thanks for that! We could use one more point guard for the championship run, though. Maybe Randle’s the guy?

  27. Didn’t Chalmers explode his Achilles?

    Brandon Jennings is going to give him some recovery tips.

    (Turns out that Ndour thread was also Ted Nelson’s swan song. RIP.)

  28. Melo brought Team Banana Boat together for a very serious cause:

    https://twitter.com/GMA/status/753379221792133120

    As others have said, whatever issues we may have with him as a player, his salary, or whatever, good for him for stepping up and speaking about this. He annoys the hell out of me a lot of the time, but on nights like this I’m damn proud to have him on my basketsports team.

    UPDATE: Here’s the longer video: https://twitter.com/GMA/status/753380434587693056

  29. Whatever you think about the issue, at least Melo is willing to speak publicly and risk losing money for something he believes in.

  30. It’s more like:
    PG: Rose/Jennings
    SG: Lee/Holiday/Sasha
    SF: Melo/Thomas/Kuzminskas
    PF: Porzingis/O’Quinn/Ndour
    C: Noah/Hernangomez/Plumlee

    then for the other 30 games
    PG: Jennings/Steve Blake
    SG: Lee/Sasha/Holiday
    SF: Thomas/Lamar Odom/Kuzminskas
    PF: Porzingis/Ndour
    C: O’Quinn/Hernangomez/Plumlee

  31. I’m gonna be real pissed if I bet the under at, like 32, Rose gets hurt in the first game, and Brandon Jennings rides his wave of mediocrity to, like, 35 wins.

  32. If there is any team you should be betting the under on its Indiana. People think they’ll be #2 in the East when all they did this off season was downgrade. From Head Coach right on down that team is worse than it was 3 months ago.

  33. If there is any team you should be betting the under on its Indiana. People think they’ll be #2 in the East when all they did this off season was downgrade. From Head Coach right on down that team is worse than it was 3 months ago.

    Some sideways FA moves and a step back on the head coach front and suggest that is not a silly bet.

  34. @38

    I continue to be enraptured by Mr. Jowles’ intrepid feats of sports gambling derring-do.

    He’s very precocious for his age. Wise beyond his years, you might say.

  35. Fun facts: NDour’s twitter is @TooHotFiDem.

    Delightful.

    Also, y’all should watch the Canada-Senegal highlights from the P&T article — The Forest Moon blocks Tyler Ennis and Tristan Thompson 5 times in total. It’s neat.

  36. @43 heavencent35

    Heh, TT looks like he could pick his teeth with Ndour after a heavy steak dinner.

  37. Cock Jowles, Sean Avery Memorial Award #1 Internet Agitator

    @44 ruruland

    Wow, the Knicks might have a transition offense again.

    Also, you can picture Noah seamlessly in Gasol’s place in the high post in the article’s embedded vines.

    (lol, “embedded vines,” what a world)

  38. Reading that Ndour thread from last year makes me even more puzzled why people on this website keep disagreeing with me

    Because of comments (on the other thread) like this: I don’t know why we’re wasting a roster spot on him, he’s not an NBA player.

    At least you’re a step up from Ted. (Joking! You and Khanzy were the only reason to keep checking in late in the ’14-’15 season.)

    I miss Farfa.

  39. I think that the best comment on the Lee signing is the fact that the thread didn’t get to 100 posts and couldn’t really even stay on Lee, and now we’re on a new thread that has wandered back to Rose. Kind of sums up Lee as a player: he exists. He is competent. He’s …. wait, who’s that over there?

  40. Kind of sums up Lee as a player: he exists. He is competent. He’s …. wait, who’s that over there?

    “Exists; competent” is a cup of cool water to a group of parched fans emerging from the desert of last season.

    Before I checked out roughly a month after Melo’s ankle injury (lol) — we were often lamenting that the Knicks simply did not have enough NBA-level talent. Games were unwatchable.

    Now, whether you are OK with how Phil engineered it or not, (and it’s OK to either) we suddenly do have a roster restocked with NBA-level talent. Injury risk and your personal level of contempt for Derrick Rose notwithstanding.

    I’m learning from being Knicks fan to radically let go of expectations. Well, I have to in order to stay sane. Realistic championship aspirations? I can worry about that later. I’d settle for a first-round playoffs exit this year. Imagine making the playoffs CONSECUTIVE years!

  41. I miss Farfa too, good poster.

    Can’t wait for this season to begin tbqh. It’s gonna be interesting

  42. Honestly, your retort to a piece from the WSJ shouldn’t be a piece from the New York Post lol

  43. Re: the D’Antoni article — I have no doubt that Carmelo and Amare had some resentment of Linsanity, but honestly, D’Antoni should try looking at himself a little before throwing others under the bus. Part of what makes great coaches is getting players to buy into what you’re doing. No, Melo and Amare are not Tim Duncan, but you have to be able to frame what you want them to do in such a way that they are likely to do it. The Melo era in NYC has pretty much been a failure so far, but D’Antoni himself has been a failure everywhere he’s gone that didn’t have Steve Nash running his system. Let’s see how he does in Houston with a guy who’s even more of a ballhog running his system, and zero players who play any defense outside Patrick Beverley. And let’s see who he throws under the bus this time.

    The fact that he couldn’t get Amare to buy in is really telling. He and Amare should have been connected at the hip after all the success they had together.

  44. Re: Ndour – obviously we have very little to go on with him, but the most impressive thing to me about the Canada and Gibberman highlights is how well he was able to move and contest on the perimeter. Hopefully he is for real and can contribute.

  45. D’Antoni should try looking at himself a little before throwing others under the bus.

    Wasn’t that what he was doing when he said “Relationships deteriorated where I couldn’t get the most out of people. Take me away and they’ll up their game.”? Remember, once D’Antoni left, Melo basically did what D’Antoni wanted him to do, he just wouldn’t do it for D’Antoni because their relationship had gotten too bad.

  46. Wasn’t that what he was doing when he said “Relationships deteriorated where I couldn’t get the most out of people. Take me away and they’ll up their game.”? Remember, once D’Antoni left, Melo basically did what D’Antoni wanted him to do, he just wouldn’t do it for D’Antoni because their relationship had gotten too bad.

    Right — but the interview comes off as “Melo was jealous and that’s why Linsanity couldn’t continue”. Maybe that’s not 100% what he meant but he’s not dumb – he knows how the NY media will frame things.

    Better just to say “I had a great experience in NY. I’m not here to litigate the past. I’m looking forward to a new challenge in Houston”.

  47. I am very excited about Ndour. Looking back, no one anticipated Linsanity when we signed Lin, or Novakaine when we signed Novak. I’m sure no one expected Draymond Green to turn into a top-10 NBA player when he was signed. No, I’m not “expecting” that from Ndour, but he definitely has the physical and athletic profile to surprise. A couple of things I really like:
    -He can score equally well inside with either hand…in fact, it seems like he prefers to finish with his left. One-hand dominant guys often hit the wall vs. NBA defenses.
    -Like KP last year, he showed a broad range of NBA scoring moves, although they are in need of more reps and refinement vs. NBA-level defense. Very Draymond-like in that regard.
    -On defense, he seems to have the makings of a special P&R defender, which is invaluable in this day and age. Long arms and quick feet make a nice combo out on the perimeter.
    -He’s got a combination of charm, swagger, and lunch-pail game that will sell very well at MSG. The hairdo doesn’t hurt either. I think it won’t be long before the fans start chanting his name.

    I can’t help but think that he’s the closest thing to Draymond Green on our roster. Could he be that scrap-heap stud we keep dreaming about?

  48. I can’t help but think that he’s the closest thing to Draymond Green on our roster. Could he be that scrap-heap stud we keep dreaming about?

    He can’t handle the ball at all, so he’s nothing like Draymond Green on offense. At the least he should be able to rebound competently and be a good shot blocker. He doesn’t have to be a good NBA player to be useful, especially at his price.

  49. Part of what makes great coaches is getting players to buy into what you’re doing. No, Melo and Amare are not Tim Duncan, but you have to be able to frame what you want them to do in such a way that they are likely to do it. The Melo era in NYC has pretty much been a failure so far, but D’Antoni himself has been a failure everywhere he’s gone that didn’t have Steve Nash running his system. Let’s see how he does in Houston with a guy who’s even more of a ballhog running his system, and zero players who play any defense outside Patrick Beverley. And let’s see who he throws under the bus this time.

    The fact that he couldn’t get Amare to buy in is really telling. He and Amare should have been connected at the hip after all the success they had together.

    I rarely disagree with EVERYTHING someone says, but this post came pretty close.

    There was no way anyone on earth was going to get Amare to buy into coming off the bench back then. He considered himself a superstar. He still has an inflated view of his game. So how was Melo going to move to PF even under the remote possibility you could convince him to do so (which you couldn’t). Even Phil Jackson has commented a couple of times about Melo not wanting to play PF. Everything changed when Amare got hurt and there were a few other injuries. That FORCED Melo to the PF slot next to Chandler. That’s when the team took off, but Woodson was the coach and got the credit.

    The thing that screwed up LA was injuries.

    Howard was half crippled when he came back prematurely. Both Nash an Blake were out at the same time for an extended period of time. So they had no PG at all. They were using Chris freaking Duhon! Gasol was hurt for most of the year. Much of the rest of the bench was also hurt. When they finally got CLOSE to healthy (never actually got there), they went on a tremendous 28-12 run to make the playoffs. Then EVERYONE broke down again.

    Sometimes it’s circumstances.

  50. I can’t help but think that he’s the closest thing to Draymond Green on our roster. Could he be that scrap-heap stud we keep dreaming about?

    Green wasn’t a scrap heap reclamation project. He was the Division I Player of the Year his senior year at Michigan State. He slipped to the 2nd round because of his size and age. But early 2nd round is not scrap heap.

    Ndour is a true scrap heap guy. And the good news is: the Knicks have had great success finding contributors off the scrap heap in the recent past. The list has actually gotten quite long. The problem was that these guys would get 1 year deals and then leave NY the next year. I like the signing.

  51. I rarely disagree with EVERYTHING someone says, but this post came pretty close.

    There was no way anyone on earth was going to get Amare to buy into coming off the bench back then. He considered himself a superstar. He still has an inflated view of his game. So how was Melo going to move to PF even under the remote possibility you could convince him to do so (which you couldn’t). Even Phil Jackson has commented a couple of times about Melo not wanting to play PF. Everything changed when Amare got hurt and there were a few other injuries. That FORCED Melo to the PF slot next to Chandler. That’s when the team took off, but Woodson was the coach and got the credit.

    The thing that screwed up LA was injuries.

    Howard was half crippled when he came back prematurely. Both Nash an Blake were out at the same time for an extended period of time. So they had no PG at all. They were using Chris freaking Duhon! Gasol was hurt for most of the year. Much of the rest of the bench was also hurt. When they finally got CLOSE to healthy (never actually got there), they went on a tremendous 28-12 run to make the playoffs. Then EVERYONE broke down again.

    Sometimes it’s circumstances.

    lol ok fair enough!

  52. @60 +1. N’Dour’s deal is exactly the deal we should’ve given Lance Thomas last year. With him and Kuz, and to a lesser extent Lance, we finally have some guys that can get out on the break and run the floor (Derrick Williams excluded). In today’s NBA I feel versatile wings are the position you need the most depth at. Who knows if these guys can actually contribute, but the potential is there.

  53. Also, Ndour generates blocks and steals, which generates transition opportunities.

    A unit of Zinger, Ndour, Kuz, Lance and Baker would be one lanky-ass up-tempo unit!

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