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We live in a world where Jeff Kent and Harold Baines are Hall of Famers and Thurman Munson and Don Mattingly are not.
reaves reaves! happy knick victory morning, errybody!
after a slow-ish return to action jalen williams seems to be fully back now (25 points/8 assists last night)
who is jeff kent?
Jeff Kent was a hard-hitting second baseman who the Mets gave up on too soon. His best years were with the Giants.
I despise the Yankees but agree that both Mattingly and Munson should be HOFers. That’s not to take anything away from Kent or Baines, both of whom are even more deserving than those two.
Baines was 100 percent a cronyism pick from a veterans committee stacked with people he played with/for. An excellent player, but he’s among the worst Hall of Famers who played after the 19th century, possibly the worst. (I don’t have the time or skill to crunch the numbers on how he compares to, say, the various St. Louis Cardinals teammates that Frankie Frisch pushed through the vets committee back in the day.)
Dale Murphy should be in the Hall of Fame. I’m a big peak over longevity guy, assuming the peak was itself substantial. Like, Murphy had eight great years. Much as I love Donnie Baseball, his peak might not be long enough for me.
But it’s absurd that Jeff Kent will have a plaque, while Barry Bonds — the guy whose presence in the lineup made many of Kent’s homers possible — does not, and likely never will. (Even if you are vehemently anti-steroid, Bud Selig — the guy who looked the other way on all of this — does have a plaque, so what are we doing here?)
got it thanks as always z and good mornin’ to you
For the armchair diagnosticians out there (I was pre-med for a minute in college) this is a pretty good breakdown of what may have happened to Franz Wagner. In short, Dr. Sutterer thinks it is less likely an ACL injury and more likely an injury to the quadriceps tendon or patellar tendon, with possible involvement of MCL and meniscus. Best case is bone bruise but he didn’t sound optimistic about that. He seemed to feel that the characterization of “lower leg” injury rather than “knee” injury was curious, maybe bringing in to play a tibia fracture or something akin to a high ankle sprain.
i feel a little badly that someone on this board who i like and who shall remain nameless actually jokingly called for wagners knee to be taken out or something like that towards the tail end of the short thread just prior to the game thread and then something like that actually occurred gave me the oogies a little bit at the same time as feeling a little badly for wagner im more wondering if we have a decent idea about deuce he was playing so well up until yesterday
I’m naturally a cynic when it comes to steroids but Kent’s late career power surge, corresponding almost exactly to the roids era struck me as very suspicious. Unlike Bonds he seemed like a nice guy and never got caught.
I don’t remember Kent as being a particularly nice guy.
Basically everyone I know who watched Mattingly play is convinced he should be in the Hall, yet I look at his numbers and see a bog-standard “Hall of Very Good” guy. It might have something to do with the seeming divide between the numbers and the eye-test when it comes to his fielding, because if you assume he was a great 1B his case does become much more compelling.
To me, Bernie and Posada have better cases. Then again, it’s probably no coincidence that I watched those guys maybe over 1,000 times.
I always believed that a Hall of Famer was a player whose baseball card you instinctively separated from all the other cards you were sorting. Dale Murphy, Jim Rice, Eddie Murray, Steve Carlton, Nolan Ryan, Pete Rose, Thurman Munson, Carlton Fisk, Cal Ripken, Barry Bonds, Don Mattingly, and Rickey Henderson are all Hall of Famers in my definition. The steroids, gambling, and injuries that derail a candidacy do not enter into this calculus. They were the best players of their time – at least five years to match the Sandy Koufax test.
I always found Strawberry’s case to be just as compelling as Mattingly’s and everyone seems to accept he has no chance.
If there’s a HOF for names, though, Don Mattingly and Darryl Strawberry are on the first ballot (with Joe Montana). We had some really cool names in the 80s.
Jeff Kent was an a-hole.
He could wash a good truck, though!
Edwards arguing the case for Mikal and/or OG to be first-time all-stars this year: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6870804/2025/12/08/og-anunoby-mikal-bridges-nba-all-star-bids/?source=emp_shared_article
I wonder if there’s a world where one of them joins Brunson on the team and KAT doesn’t. KAT’s not playing well, but he’s getting pointz, and there’s a lot of inertia with these picks.
The best thing about yesterday’s game was that OG looked fantastic. I still get uneasy whenever he rumbles to the hoop (turnover) or gets out on transition (injury) but he checked all the boxes for “indispensable” yesterday.
KAT is not playing well yet he’s averaging 22.5 ppg on 60% TS% along with 11.9 rebs per game and 3.4 asts per game.
I think the whole baseball HOF thing is tainted in so many ways that I don’t even care all that much any more. Other sports as well, but maybe less of an issue because of how much history and “Americana” is associated with Cooperstown.
As much of a dick as I think he is, I like Bill Simmons’ take on how a sports HOF should be “layered, ” where there is a “pantheon” and then lower levels of “greatness.” This way, guys like Mattingly, Baines, Kent, etc. would qualify on the basis of “fame” but would not be on the same level with Ruth, Mays, Ichiro, etc. The only separator right now is “first ballot” and even that often seems sketchy as to “very, very good” vs. “all-time great.”
“KAT is not playing well yet he’s averaging 22.5 ppg on 60% TS% along with 11.9 rebs per game and 3.4 asts per game.”
Sorry folks, I’m going with the eye test on this one.
That’s why you should never cross me, Doogie.
But in all seriousness, I wonder if the league would ever consider getting rid of fast breaks? They are mostly what’s creating the torque/speed that causes these injuries. Idk how you’d do it though… maybe a rule where the ball can’t advance beyond halfcourt before a certain number of players or what not. Perhaps that would kill some of the excitement, but having these guys constantly injured hurts the league even more.
Mattingly might have had a hall of fame worthy career but he had back problems and so he didn’t. It sucks but it is what it is.
I have a pretty good video breakdown of what may have happened to Franz Wagner, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-SSa-D1i-M
“But in all seriousness, I wonder if the league would ever consider getting rid of fast breaks?”
Not only is this extremely unlikely, the league has actually changed the rules to encourage more fast breaks…the transition take foul and clear path fouls are both examples of that.
One issue that seems to be a factor in every game is the lack of “landing space” near the basket. But that’s something that probably won’t change either.
Stuff like this has me very optimistic. It feels like we’re really good and still in second gear. Jalen Brunson isn’t even having a good year yet (not by his standards).
On the contrary, a team like Detroit feels like they hit the ground running and don’t have another level to reach. Same with Philadelphia and Toronto. And Miami’s a team that I think may hit a wall when the league figures out this crazy offense of theirs.
This team is really frustrating when they lose but so much of it looks like shit that can get worked out over time.
On the day he died nonetheless!
To your point, ess, I think that the demands of defending against modern offenses and elite athletes going to the basket in the halfcourt are probably a significant factor in lots of injuries. Continually going over screens is a very physical task (especially given how many screens are actually not legal), yet the cost of going under is more extreme than ever. Closing out awkwardly on 3pt shooters. Switching onto much bigger or smaller players in space. Awkward alley-oop passes in traffic (see: Gordon Hayward). Guys with 40+” verticals landing on feet. Guys falling backwards over other guys who have fallen down, or having guys land on them. Arm-locking drivers and yanking shoulders. Getting submarined or knocked off balance resulting in landing on backs, hips, etc.
And modern players all seem to be jacked, so the forces involved are greater than they used to be.
I just don’t see a way to address it without diminishing the game in some way that hurts more than helps.
Don Mattingly is the kind of player who seemed like lock Hall Of Famer while he was active and healthy, but his last good season came at age 28 and the Hall is generally only for players who have long career arcs and who have compiled a lot of counting stats.
Harold Baines is in because of counting stats. He played a long time and got 2800+ hits. Mattingly actually has more career WAR. Neither really belong in the Hall in my opinion.
I’m with Hubert on this one (Hi Hubert!). This team definitely feels like it’s in second gear, still, and with guys in and out of the lineup. I suppose the latter is part of an 82-game season, but outside of Mikal and OG (who’s come back without missing a beat), the team still feels like it is working things out. Bodes very well if and when it gets figured out.
From The Athletic Windup:
Era committee elects Jeff Kent
This is not funny if you’re Barry Bonds. In fact, it’s probably not even really funny for the rest of us (unless you’re Jeff Kent).
Funny isn’t the right word. But there certainly was a bit of wry irony in the fact that this year’s Era committee declined to elect Bonds into the Hall of Fame, on the same day it did elect Kent (on his first Era committee ballot).
Our friends over at Secret Base released (video not being included in this post) six years ago, detailing the history of beef between Bonds and Kent, which included stolen van seats, constant bickering, resentment, a motorcycle accident and a(t least one) scuffle in the dugout.
So for Kent to be elected on the same day that Bonds — along with Roger Clemens — didn’t even get five votes (meaning he won’t be on another ballot until 2031), well … that probably added insult to injury for Bonds.
Not to say Kent didn’t deserve it. He has more home runs as a second baseman than anyone else, and his stats compare favorably against other second basemen in the Hall, too.
Our Grant Brisbee writes Kent is a deserving Hall of Famer, but so is Bonds.
KAT is not playing well yet he’s averaging 22.5 ppg on 60% TS% along with 11.9 rebs per game and 3.4 asts per game.
we’re probably still a bit anchored in the past on what particularly good scoring looks like. of the 68 guys in the nba averaging at least 30 minutes per game, 38 of them score at least 20 per game at 58% or higher TS.
in 2015-16 77 guys averaged 30 per game and the entire list of 20/g and 58% guys was:
curry
durant
kawhi
lebron
harden
klay
Dadiet didn’t play for Westchester yesterday. He must actually be hurt but I can’t find any evidence of it. Westchester got blown out again. They suck real bad.
Yeah PT, it’s a great point. The way TS Plus numbers have moved steadily up in the three point era is pretty interesting. You would think it would stabilize at some point but hasn’t been the case so far.
Re KAT, I basically haven’t moved much on him since he came here. Flawed player, immense offensive talent, but hard to build around.
I was happy to see Hukporti get a real shot last night. Have been somewhat surprised how out of the rotation he had been. He has very good feet for a guy his size, and especially with OG out I think he could’ve gotten more minutes. I vaguely remember him being respectable guarding Giannis last year?
Honestly we really need to see what he can do before making decisions about Mitch extensions etc.
I agree that our team has not hit its ceiling, there is more juice to squeeze from KAT and Brunson, and possibly Yabu and Clarkson as well.
However, there is also room for a) regression (Deuce is not gonna shoot 44% from 3 all season, and both Mikal and Hart are well above their career averages) and b) certain players just sucking (again, Clarkson and Yabu.) We also don’t know whether Shamet will recover or need surgery. There’s a lot riding on whether Huk and Kolek are viable rotation players vs. good teams.
We’ve had the 7th easiest SOS thus far. The only notable WC team we’ve played is the Wolves, and Ant-Man was coming back off an injury on the end of a road trip. We lost twice to Orlando and were losing when Wagner went down. We’ve lost twice to Miami and once to Boston.
Honestly, I don’t even think our schedule gets interesting in terms of defining who we really are until February. I’m cautiously optimistic, but until we see more games vs. the likes of Cleveland, Houston, Detroit, OKC, Lakers, Denver, and Spurs, I’m just gonna sit back and enjoy the ride without making any judgments beyond “Hey, we’re very good! And the East is bad!”
I basically don’t even look at raw TS% anymore because what constitutes a good one keeps changing. I’m old enough to remember when, say, 57% on high volume was good for any position. Which is to say I’m 30.
Somewhat relatedly, it’s incredibly annoying that the Celtics’ offense is better than last year’s on a PTS/100 basis despite losing Tatum and Porzingis, though I take some solace in it being a funny thing to joke about at both of those guys’ expense.
Mazulla is a weird guy, but naturally they seem to have stumbled ass backwards into a great coach.
The funny thing about ‘Mikal playing out of his mind’ is that the box score looked hugely pedestrian last night — 6-17 for 12 points, 0-4 from three, admittedly with 6 rebounds and 7 assists, but those are Hart ho-hum numbers. Yet it felt like he was involved in every big play and was absolutely essential to us winning all game long.
Peak Strawberry was nowhere as good as peak Mattingly. For six years Mattingly was one of the best players in baseball and for 3 years between 84 and 86 he WAS the best player in baseball. Also 9 time gold glove winner while Straw was an adventure every time a ball was hit toward him.
Also Mattingly’s premature demise was totally injury related while Straw’s was completely self inflicted.
As an addendum to “And the East is bad!” I would say that we haven’t seen the best of any of the Cavs, Hawks, Sixers, Celtics, or Heat yet.
The Celtics are 10-2 in their last 12 games and currently have the 5th best SRS/net rating in the league. If we haven’t seen their best, they’ll be the number 1 seed.
The Sixers are average, and Embiid seems really done. He couldn’t post up Austin Reeves yesterday in a critical possession at the end of the game!
I think the novelty of the Heat’s offense caught many teams by surprise early on when they were scoring a gazillion points per game, but they now have 16th best offense. They are good, but trending down in my view.
And hot take: the Pistons are much worse than their record. They just keep winning every close game, which is not really sustainable.
the thing that stuck out to me most last night was how Orlando kept running the ball back down our throats after we made baskets…
not sure how we fix that, but they had a bunch of baskets wherein they took the ball from their basket and went straight at our hoop…
not fun to warch…
Our SOS is -0.76, we may have the 7th easiest schedule, but it’s been fairly average. Since we’re in the East and never have to play ourselves, it’ll probably stay a little below average. Less than 1-point separates us from 12th placed Brooklyn.
The Celtics currently worry me and that’ll be it until Cleveland can get their shit together, but their shit seems really not together this year, and they’ve always disappointed in the playoffs anyway.
It’s a mixed bag, Geo. Young, athletic teams (Detroit, Orlando) give us problems if they’re disciplined. But young teams also tend to turn it over a lot against wily vets (us) and sometimes their shooting isn’t there yet.
The clock is ticking on our group, though, and this year might be our best shot at reaching the finals.
Btw aside from the 3 best players being in the West, I kind of think East and West are closer than they appear (although injuries could skew that a bit).
Bob, with all due respect to both you and Donnie Baseball, a player I adore, he was one of the best players in baseball those years, but he wasn’t the best. Hell, he wasn’t even the best Yankee the year he won the MVP, as Ricky was inhuman that season.
https://espnanalytics.com/nba-net-pts Mikal rates out very well
Also leads the team in win shares, currently sitting at number 5 in the league.
Strawberry and Mattingly are actually quite good comps. Both very famous players in their day who were 5-7 WAR players at their peak, but who only sustained that production for a short time. Mattingly had 24.7 WAR in his four best seasons, Strawberry had 22.1 WAR. That’s about a half a WAR per season, certainly not in the “nowhere near as good” category. Mattingly was a bit better, but it’s reasonably close.
Keith Hernandez was just as good as Mattingly at his peak, which people forget because much of it came with St Louis in 1979-1980, and easily had a better career. Hernandez is right at that 60 WAR threshold that seems to be a reasonable barrier of entry for the HOF. Keith had a lot of very good years, was a reliable 5 WAR player from 1979-1986. OBP machine who was the best defensive 1B of his generation.
Keith’s a more deserving candidate than Jeff Kent as well.
I don’t think you’re giving the organization enough credit for developing him. He was ridiculed when he started, and could have easily been replaced after year 1 and never heard from again.
Interestingly (and not coincidentally, I believe) guys like Mazzulla, Popovich, Spoelstra and even Phil Jackson all won early and then went on to become exponentially better than they were when they first won.
Who was the best player from 84-86, then?
Henderson was terrific and did score 146 runs in 85, but Mattingly by himself knocked Rickey in 56 times. I prefer the guy who drives in 145 vs 72. Plus Mattingly was so much better defensively. Amazingly, Mattingly drove in 145 to lead the league, led the league in doubles, batted .324 and only struck out 41 times (he never struck out more that 43 times in his entire career)!
Best player in MLB from 1984-1986 was probably Wade Boggs. Rickey Henderson, Tim Raines, and Cal Ripken Jr were all better than Mattingly in that time frame as well.
WAR, 1984-1986
Boggs 22.5
Ripken 22.1
Henderson 21.6
Raines 19.9
Mattingly 19.4
I spent some time with Barry toward the end of his playing days and found him very warm and likeable. (Kent I only know from various limericks about having big dicks and stuff)
Mattingly was my favorite player when I was a kid, and Rickey was my brother’s favorite player. We used to have these fights all the time — good memories lol
Deuce needs an MRI – ugh. Seems likely it is not a garden variety ankle sprain.
Come on Captcha, is a robot really going to make that last post of mine?? Get a life.
Nothing personal bob, but this confirms my suspicion that there’s a kind of Mattingly mystique that clouds peoples’ judgment.
I mean, Henderson was exponentially better in ’85. They were more or less similar in terms of hitting alone (advantage Ricky due to his OBP), but Henderson stole eighty bases (out of 90 total attempts…my god) and played a stellar CF.
Mattingly was definitely great, but if the case for him being better than Henderson boils down to…RBIs, well, I feel pretty good about my take.
hope we get a deuce update soon very frustrating to lose him almost just as soon as getting og back i have to say that i like the way that mike brown is handling mitchs minutes to attempt to keep him fresh and “mitch healthy” throughout the season
Deuce was in a walking boot today, according to the beat reporters. Not a great sign as we wait for the MRI results.
Seems like everytime he hits a stride and plays his best ball, he gets injured and then it takes him a while to get going again.
i was thinking the exact same thing earlier this morning director whereas og only took about one game (or maybe even less) to get his game legs back under him it does seem to take deuce a little bit longer guess we just need to be patient when hes ready i will also say that the fact that we won that game relatively easily yesterday against a probably better than average team when he wasnt playing well and then missed the end of it was heartening for our overall prospects
Underground Kings, I have no idea how accurate that site is, but I could spend hours on it. Among other pleasing things, Precious is better than Yabu, and Kolek is better than Clarkson. Too much fun.
Leon really shouldn’t be allowed to bring in anyone over 30. It never works.
(And yes, Doogie, I know Yabu is 29, OK?!)
Feel good about my Clarkson short right now.
Good god that system does not rate Clarkson:
https://espnanalytics.com/nba-net-pts
Btw Franz has a high ankle sprain, I think he’ll live.
Karma, you ignorant slut
Much, much better news than I figured we’d get, and I’m very happy to hear it. I want to beat these motherfuckers at full strength.
First of all nothing should ever be personal here as this is a silly discussion about baseball statistics. I don’t get the notion of a Mattingly mystique. Everyone knows his career was cut short by a back injury. However, there is no mystique about his greatness from 84-86.
During the 3 seasons in question he:
led the majors in doubles all 3 years.
led the majors in hits 2 of the 3 years and had 211 the other.
led the majors in total bases 2 years and had 324 the other
led the majors in batting once and hit .352 and .324 the other two.
led the majors in RBI once and had 110 and 113 the other two.
His 145 RBIs in 85 were the most by a lefty since Ted Williams in 1949.
Hit .354 with RISP and 2 outs in 1985.
Won the Gold Glove all 3 seasons.
There is no phony mystique there. The mystique of the folks that watched him play was well earned.
That’s an interesting site. I’m not inclined to disregard the results, even though there are some surprises – Duran a plus on D? Huh.
And Clarkson, yikes….
What the fuck did I do?
Looks like it defaults to only showing total instead of per possession or both at the same time, and per possession defaults to minimum 1 minute played, which gives dumb results of course.
No idea if the number is any good, but I don’t like these things about it.
New Orleans should have traded Herb Jones 18 months ago.
It’s interesting to look at previous years of that analytic. It seemed to really like Immanuel Quickley, for instance. And it loved Isaiah Hartenstein. Not a big fan of OG (a negative . And really took a dump on Randle.
It had Cam Payne as our fourth best player last year, btw. I hope we still have his phone number if Deuce is going to be out a while.
you must have been his BALCO connect….no wonder he took a liking to you…
my head feels like someone else’s junk drawer that got all shook up…
picked up the boys friday, bunch of b-ball games this friday/saturday and spending time with daughter and the kid’s mom, spent a bunch of time sunday connecting with soft and lovely bestest friend to geo over the phone, dropped the boys off sunday, went and spent the night at mom’s, now over at daughter’s spot…
daughter is in her early 20’s, and steady just constantly gameplanning on life…ma just wants someone to play with, doja doggie to the rescue…my friend is just so locked in on her work…boys and their mom are focused on school stuff a bunch…
ate some weed this morning, it’s not enough maybe, haven’t partook in any anxiety meds in a couple of months, yeah that streak may be coming to an end 🙃
day by day by day, moment by moment…
that bane fastball last night still got me chuckling…
Hubert, you just grew tired of scrolling. Clarkson is #445.
However, it has Jacob Toppin ranked above Malik Monk. Much less Obi. So there’s that. But it’s still fun.
duran is either kevin durant or jalen duren who knows the answer to the fun guessing game and if anything has jacob toppin ranked above pretty much anyone else it becomes immediately sus
certainty is just a crutch in the hope for control doogie…
let things be sir…
geo is right as usual dogie embrace the uncertainty
if you had asked me prior to therapy if I was either an angry person or a fearful one – well, let’s just say i didn’t really understand the question…
remember when I first started with the therapist stuff they had me logging my emotions in to this silly app: the daily bean…like emoji faces to describe how you feel…
always thought of myself as having a mellow disposition, that was a lie, almost every day i logged an angry face 🤬
after a month or so, was hard to bullshit myself anymore…
also was soooooo sure the only stuff I was afraid of was spiders and snakes, seriously…
once I started in on the cognitive therapy stuff soon learned that damn near most weird shit I had going on was sourced out of some kind of fear of something…
anyways, hope your day is well doogie, it’s just a ride with no set destination…yeah, how great is that, oh well…
combing for news on deuce so far nothing even coming close to conclusive
It’s not basketball, but since humor is encouraged here, this is my new very favorite opening line in a cover letter for a job I have open:
“I am writing to express my interest in the System Administrator position at Company Name. ”
(For the record, the position is admin but has nothing to do with system administration…)
Peak Mattingly was clear cut HOF material, but once he hurt his back he was never really the same player. You could see him in pain at times at the plate. That’s why people that were fans at the time will tell you he’s a HOF player and people that just look at the career stats will come to a different conclusion.
IMO, peak Bill Walton was all time great C that played great on both sides, but he was constantly hurt. So what was he really? It depends on how much much weight you give to peak performance and how much to an overall career hindered by injury.
ralph sampson sam bowie yao ming greg oden even grant hill brandon roy and penny hardaway fall into this same “what might have been” category
Replace back with knee and you basically describe Bernard, too, who is a hall of famer. But getting into Cooperstown is like getting into Harvard and getting into Springfield is like getting into Cambridge Community College, so there’s that.
If I was good enough to help Barry hit 73 home runs, I’d have done a lot more to help the knicks during that time.
I think it’s pretty safe to say that so far Russ was a better minimum signing than Clarkson.
Glad Bane got a $35,000 fine for that ridiculous shizz
I think a 1-game suspension was warranted. That’s the kind of stuff that precipitates ugly brawls. Lucky for Bane that the Knicks don’t really have an enforcer on the team (oh wait, I forgot, there aren’t any enforcers in the NBA anymore.)
But seriously, even a Julius Randle might have blown a gasket at that play.
I watched a video compilation of all of Bane’s dirty shit over the years, including one incident where he body slams Okongwu and then chucks the ball at him just like OG
I don’t wanna hear “that’s not like Desmond Bane” he’s the second coming of Draymond. Fuck that dude.
Knicks Randle would have gone ballistic.
Desmond Bane might be a nice guy off the court, but he is a hothead with a dangerous lack of impulse control on the court. The two plays (Okongwu and OG) are very similar, almost reminiscent of fucking Roger Clemens chucking a jagged broken bat at Mike Piazza. There is no room in either baseball or basketball for that kind of unprovoked aggression, let alone provoked.
Maybe the $35,000 fine is a shot over the bow, but I don’t think it’s enough. This was not retaliation, it was a psychotic break. I’ve never seen a guy do that before, without any provocation whatsoever, as opposed to say, when Chris Dudley fired a ball at Shaq.
It seems like a near certainty that Bane does something like this again. Hopefully there’s some sort of three strikes policy where the next such incident results in an indefinite suspension and a mental health check.
Derik Queen went off for 29 second half points in a losing effort with a 33/10/10 with 4 blocks triple double…
I threw that out there for you, Doogie. Figure until you’re banned I’ll give you what you need to satiate your disorder.
It looked like the worst, dumbest trade to move up ever, but if Queen turns into a star it at least won’t have crippled the franchise
You’re just the nicest guy, rama.
And speaking of such, it’s not like Bane threw it at Grayson Allen or Dillon Brooks. OG has to be one of the quietest, nicest guys out there. I mean he’s got to be frustrating to play against, and maybe he ripped the ball from Bane. But even if that were true, I’m with Z-Man that it’s psychotic behavior.
queen is very inconsistent but thats kind of expected from rookies
Good Christ, the Pels are 3-22?
Also, Bones Hyland getting minutes for Minnesota … Starting to wonder if that Dillingham pick was a bust…
Hadn’t realized until I read the Athletic about potential landing spots for CP3, but it is looking like that. When you need a 40-year-old guard to take minutes from your 38-year-old guard because the young replacement can’t handle it, it’s not good, Bob
yeah i thought that i remembered dillingham having some really good games at least last season but turns out i was incorrect the best game of his career was a little 19 point 8 assist number in a blowout win over the jazz in utah this past january if thats his best game as a pro thats pretty bad
Queen is fine, but highest grossing bio pic of all time kind of cements their over-ratedness, don’t you agree? Mercury was like “I’ve never tried singing before” even though he had the pipes of a reasonably manorexic Pavarotti. Then he writes and records Bohemian Rhapsody between tea and linner one night and spends the rest of the movie chasing sailors around old compton street. Maximizing his effortlessness minimized his actual talent, which, like most non-Americans, was really his hard work.
Bravo, Donnie. Perfect post. Knew there was a reason we didn’t kick your Pacer-lovin butt to the curb…
twas a little bit ptmiloesque which indeed is a compliment brava walsh