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Knicks Morning News (2025.08.25)

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    • 33 replies on “Knicks Morning News (2025.08.25)”

    The Mike Weinar news is weird, isn’t it? Would it be too many cooks in the kitchen if the Knicks scoop him up? If not, the Knicks could very well be like Jimmy Johnson’s Cowboys teams where Johnson was the CEO-type and disciplinarian with strong assistants. Jent and Weinar could cook up a fantastic offense, while Brown and O’Connor find ways to maximize the defense. That happens, I’m fine with moving on from 1 or 2 coaches, but Bryant and Fois have to stay for sure. With Rick Brunson entrenched, I think that would be a really good coaching staff

    My guess is Weinar saw how many head and assistant coaches were able to leverage the Knicks to get raises this summer and took the interview thinking he’d be the next one. After turning us down he probably sought to renegotiate his contract, and Herb Simon didn’t appreciate the transparent ruse.

    I couldn’t tell you the difference between Mike Weinar and Chris Jent, to be honest. But having two guys for the same job seems a little sloppy. The Grizzlies tried something like this with Taylor Jenkins, bringing in both Toumas Iisalo and Noah LaRoche. Each guy had his own vision and the whole thing was a mess.

    “I love the Beasley news. “Oh, yeah, the Pistons can offer Beasley $7.2 million, and a number of other teams can even beat THAT, but, uh…the Knicks could get him, too, somehow!”

    Exactly. I know the gambling probe has been dropped, but Malik seems like he in a financial mess–he weirdly sold part of his future earnings (and I guess spent the money), he is being sued by his former agent for fees due, and got evicted for not paying his rent. But we might be able to get him at a significant discount…

    The Beasley situation is strange. Someone that’s in a difficult short term financial position like him is exactly the kind of person likely to break the rules and get involved in some kind of gambling scheme. Now that he’s been cleared (or they couldn’t find enough evidence to prosecute) he finds himself in a very damaged financial position. I’m not sure if anyone can be sued, but assuming innocent until proven guilty he was clearly damaged by this at the worst possible time. At the very least the league should provide him some help getting his house in order so he doesn’t wind up on the streets when his career is over.

    Malik Beasley signing with us would be a remarkably poor financial decision, which based on some recent reporting about the guy is a reason to have some hope it might happen.

    That Daily Knicks article suggested we promise Beasley the starting spot as that might be more of an incentive than making a few extra million. Which if it was one year to “prove himself” we might get the best version of beasley out there.

    Brunson, Beasley, Mikal, OG and KAT – this would be the 5 out line up we could only dream of. Rebounding and defense would be suspect but the offense would be ridiculous. Then you have a bench of Clarkson, Deuce, Hart, Yabu and Mitch.

    That’s a fucking scary team.

    I don’t think you can in good faith “promise” a guy like Beasley a starting spot on this team. You can say that he has a good chance to earn it…

    Malik seems like he in a financial mess

    Which reminds me of a question that’s been on my mind for a while and meant to ask here:

    If Antoine Walker played in this era would he have been good?

    So Donnie, there was a point in my life where I was banished to western MA — actually an amazing place to live, but back then no Knicks, only Celtics. So in despair I watched them, and this was in the Antoine heyday. He was extremely talented, and could rebound and pass, and for back in the day wasn’t too horrible at the three (led the league in attempts more than once), but good lord was he inefficient. He only cracked .500 TS% twice in his career. (To put that into perspective, our favorite punching bag RJ has averaged .531 so far, with only his rookie season under .500).

    He was tremendously entertaining to watch, especially if you didn’t give a rat’s ass about the Celtics losing, but I think he’d be hard-pressed to get onto the floor now with the game he had then. And don’t even ask about his defense…

    Didn’t one of those Antoine Walker teams make the Eastern Conference Finals?

    That was the first “good” Celtics team since the end of the Bird era. But the east was also hella weak back then.

    I’ve been a huge UK fan since I was 4 so I LOVED me some Antoine Walker back in the day.

    Looked it up. the 2001-2002 season they won 49 games and got to the ECF, losing in 6 to the Nets. They were actually up on the Nets 2-0 but then lost the next 4 games to lose in 6.

    That was young paul pierce leading the way with Walker playing second fiddle.

    I despise Paul Pierce but he ran like a gazelle in his early years. Like a combo of Josh Hart and Obi Toppin on the fast break.

    Then he slowed way down but developed a nice ground game.

    Positive words about Paul Pierce may break the site again

    Bunge caused the last outage of over one day. Extrapolating, seems like 3 days. Someone says something positive about Hali or Trae and we might be dark until training camp.

    Looked it up. the 2001-2002 season they won 49 games and got to the ECF, losing in 6 to the Nets. They were actually up on the Nets 2-0 but then lost the next 4 games to lose in 6.

    That was the absolute nadir of the Eastern Conference, IIRC. Like the top 6 or 7 teams in the West were better than anyone in the East.

    He did get a ring with Shaq and Dwayne Wade in Miami.

    If Antoine Walker played in this era would he have been good?

    If the question is if you took Antoine Walker directly from 2000 and put him in the NBA tomorrow the answer is no. He has a few years where he’s a decent 3 point shooter, and that was kind of a revelation for a guy his size back then. Outside of that though he was a bad shooter from pretty much everywhere for his entire career.

    If you took say 13 year old Antoine Walker, transported him to the present and coached him knowing what we now know about basketball maybe you could make him a good player. He was very skilled in a lot of ways for a guy that big.

    Whoever leaked his name probably lost Beasley a lot of money

    not too hard to imagine a world wherein Malik may have been informed that depending on his cooperation with the investigation his involvement may have or have not come out at that specific time…

    yeah Malik may have lost some money, but he didn’t end up in jail…

    win for Malik…

    Brunson, Beasley, Mikal, OG and KAT – this would be the 5 out line up we could only dream of.

    I’d hate this team. Brunson & Beasley would be the worst defensive pairing in the league, and they’d be backstopped by the league’s worst rim protector. But at least we’d get killed on the glass every night.

    Malik Beasley really doesn’t make a lot of sense here. He can’t handle the ball so he’s not a Clarkson replacement. He’s a Deuce replacement. Does that really make us better?

    But at least we’d get killed on the glass every night.

    Can’t get killed on the glass if every shot you take, you make.

    I’m not sure Beasley is even worth discussing. He has financial problems. The very last thing he’s going to do is take a discount.

    He can’t handle the ball so he’s not a Clarkson replacement. He’s a Deuce replacement. Does that really make us better?

    You’re 100% right & Yes, it does.

    If Beasly gets hot in the NBA finals, he’ll get a $15m AAV multi year deal.

    He may smarten up and stop living paycheck to paycheck or he’ll choose the most money this year somewhere on a loosing or play in team.

    I’m not convinced Malik Beasley is going to be a better player than Deuce this year.

    I suppose if the plan is to bring Beasley in and trade Deuce for an upgrade in the frontcourt, that would make us better. Not sure I love that, though.

    A 6’9” point forward who leads the league in 3 pointers is the prototypical franchise player today, which is what made me ask the question. But those all-in-ones seem to remember the player that I remember.

    We’re considering giving that same roster spot to Landry Shamet. I’d say without a lot of hesitation that Malik Beasley would be an easy upgrade over that.

    I think Beasley would be a steal on paper for the minimum. But they definitely would be some team chemistry situations. I think he’s a floor better pure shooter than deuce, but he’s not the most cerebral player in the world, and the team is going to have to win on b ball IQ. But Beasley could definitely go all Aaron Nesmith on someone in the playoffs.

    Took my daughters to the liberty game tonight, had a blast! Got great seats for less than 100 bucks and the game was actually very exciting even though it was a late season game against the worst team in the league. Barclays is pretty second rate though. But it was close to a sellout, and the fans were very raucous.

    Beasley’s 3PAr+ was 170 and his 3PT+ was 116. He shot with very good efficiency on high volume, which is why he was second in the NBA in made 3-pointers, finishing one behind Anthony Edwards, who played 600 more minutes.

    Beasley was a friggin’ torch from the perimeter last year. I’m just not willing to entertain an argument that this player would not be a good pickup with the vet minimum.

    He would definitely be a good pickup. He’d create havoc with lineup options, but that’s coach’s problem. Given that he’s coming with Giannis who comes over on a trade for Kolek, that’s the least of coach’s problems, lineup-wise.

    And now I win Powerball.

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    Geo, I can always put it into a fund and hand out million dollar grants in perpetuity.

    That’s if I can keep Little Raven from buying a thousand expensive cars…

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