2014-15 Game Thread: Knicks @ Nets

On the one hand, we should likely be rooting for as many losses as this team can get, to best assure the worst record in the league.

On the other hand, wouldn’t it be fun to help the Nets not even make the playoffs? As bad as the Knicks’ future is, the Nets is that much worse, since they don’t own their own first round pick until…man, I don’t even know when (will we need a new rule, call it the Billy King Rule, where you can’t do first round pick swaps in consecutive years?).

So I’m going to root for a Knick victory tonight.

Let’s go Knicks!

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37 thoughts to “2014-15 Game Thread: Knicks @ Nets”

  1. Lance Thomas reminds me of a Boris Diaw type player that would be nice to have on the bench. I don’t know why (he may actually be terrible).

  2. Closing out the game in Cleveland:

    Mozgov, Shumpert, Smith, and LeBron. Aka Donnie Walsh’s vision for the 2011 New York Knicks.

  3. Melo shouldn’t shut it down if he’s gonna play like this, talk about prime tanking assets…

  4. Amazing… Galloway leading rebounder by 4 with 11… What the hell…

    I’m glad I can only watch gamecast. Can anyone tell me how that possession went after Galloway got the steal and melo missed yet another “clutch” jump shot

  5. Can anyone tell me how that possession went after Galloway got the steal and melo missed yet another “clutch” jump shot

    They dumped it to Melo in the high post, he was doubled and kicked it out. He got the ball again shortly after with 1 man on him 5 feet in from the 3 point line and attempted a contested turn-around fadeaway that grazed the rim.

  6. @13. Thanks…. Sounds on point with how I imagined it… I thought maybe baseline…. The circle on the gamecast isn’t reliable.

  7. Ricky Rubio’s return has been huge. 5-0 run in the last 35 seconds by him for the one-point win! Plus the game-sealing steal after giving them the lead with ten seconds left!

    Come on, Knicks, they can do this!!

  8. I will trade every Knick, a second round pick and Brian Cronin and to the Pelicans blog of their choice if the Pellies give us Anthony Davis

  9. Tough loss for OKC. If only Dion Waiters hadn’t shot 1-6 with 1 rebound in 17 minutes of basketball, maybe they wouldn’t have lost by 3. . .

  10. i cannot fathom a playoffs without durant or westbrook…

    it would be pretty funny if they wound up winning the lottery…

  11. Calderon has been looking like a ballplayer as of late.

    I’ve been saying that was likely. He’s been a slow starter for much of his career. Given the injury that set him back further, there had to be a good chance he would have a solid 2nd half once he got sharp. We are seeing signs of that. That gives us options. We can keep him if he looks like he has enough in the tank or the 7m will look reasonable and we can trade him.

  12. Draymond Green with 20 rebounds tonight vs. the Hawks, 10 of them offensive.

    I was thinking we might be able to use a guy like that on our team, but we already have Jason Smith.

  13. that would suck for the rest of the east…

    it’s a fairly deep draft… i think they could even wind up with the best player where it’s currently sitting…

  14. I can’t believe Billy King still has a job while Danny Ferry sits in limbo. I’m not defending what he said, it was stupid even if he was just repeating someone else’s comments, but the NBA has a history of rewarding mediocrity, or outright incompetence. It’s a shame. The league needs more teams like the Hawks, as they are eminently more fun to watch than most of the iso-heavy PnR teams.

  15. Melo plus a top 3 pick plus 30 million in cap space plus a mid level, mini mid level and vet minimums is more than enough to build a championship

    Let’s put the best case scenario out there:

    1) Knicks land the #1 pick, draft Okafor, and he plays in the pros like he has in college.

    2) Knicks sign Marc Gasol.

    3) The Triangle (and the team surgeons) keep Melo playing at his peak level over the next few years.

    So if all three come true, you have: peak Melo, a top-tier defensive center, and an efficient big who doesn’t defend or rebound well, all surrounded by cheap filler.

    Or, in other words, the 2011-2012 New York Knicks.

    Best case scenario.

  16. it could turn out that way given how bad ok4 is at defense…

    i think if you slot towns in there you have a chance at being a top 5 defense…

  17. Let’s put the best case scenario out there:

    1) Knicks land the #1 pick, draft Okafor, and he plays in the pros like he has in college.

    2) Knicks sign Marc Gasol.

    3) The Triangle (and the team surgeons) keep Melo playing at his peak level over the next few years.

    So if all three come true, you have: peak Melo, a top-tier defensive center, and an efficient big who doesn’t defend or rebound well, all surrounded by cheap filler.

    Or, in other words, the 2011-2012 New York Knicks.

    Best case scenario.

    While I agree with that, that would also put them into good position for the big salary cap jump the following year where they would have Melo, Gasol and Okafor and the room to add multiple decent players in 2016. So if that best case scenario happened, they’d be in pretty good shape for 2016-17. Perhaps a legit title contender. The issue, of course, is that by 2017-18, you figure Melo would be on the down swing, so you’re looking at basically one really good year, but at least they might get that one really good year! That’s something! I like having at least something!

    Plus, they could then rebuild around Okafor in 2020.

    Wow….2020.

    That is kind of nuts how long this Melo deal is.

    I’m willing to wait, though!

    But, of course, as you note, that is the best case scenario (they get the best pick in the draft, he’s a star right away and they get the best free agent out there who also happens to fit perfectly with their top pick). Other scenarios are not so kind to the Knicks.

  18. I will trade every Knick, a second round pick and Brian Cronin and to the Pelicans blog of their choice if the Pellies give us Anthony Davis

    I’d fit right in there, as the Pelicans are basically run like the Knicks South (“Forget doubling down on decent but not great ball-dominant guards, let’s triple down!”)

  19. One of the most amazing things, by the way, about Davis’ game-winning three was how he reacted. It was this super-cool “Yeah, I knew that would happen” reaction.

  20. Would the rules allow the Knicks to agree on something like buying out Amare, while taking an asset and a 2nd rounder into one of the trade exceptions?

    Obviously it’s impossible to trade him for something with value but what if Dallas really want him, Amare commits to go only to their team, and there’s a separate trade?

  21. I mean, you could try some sort of under the table agreement, but otherwise, nope. And even an under the table agreement would be problematic, as it would be too obvious. Then again, it was also pretty obvious that the Knicks only signed Chris Smith as part of their deal with JR Smith and the league allowed that. ;) But all kidding aside, that was a lot harder to prove (since it would require the league to rule that there was no way that they could have signed Chris Smith because of his skills, and since the guy played college ball, that would have been a very hard sell) than the Mavericks suddenly just sending the Knicks an asset for no reason and then the Knicks buying out STAT and him signing with Dallas.

  22. and an efficient big who doesn’t defend or rebound well,

    I don’t watch much college hoops, but Okafaor sounds a lot like peak Eddy Curry.

  23. @33 probably that’s when GM’s do the I’ll help you now and you’ll help me sometime in the future kind of deal. So if they buy out Amare now and make less than a couple of million for Dolan, I’d definitely expect to see some unbalanced trade / transaction in our favor between now and the beginning of next season.

    Or else Phil is just not very good.

  24. Peak Eddy Curry, in addition to being something of an oxymoron, wasn’t a great offensive rebounder and was a tubby, turnover prone black hole on offense. Okafor has been an excellent offensive rebounder and can really pass for a big man.

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