Quick Recap: Knicks vs. Jazz

Rodney Hood is a guy I like a lot, but he’s up and down and doesn’t strike me as the sort of guy that gives the Knicks fits.

I wrote that in the game thread. Ahem. 29 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, and 5-8 from three. The Knicks have been poor at guarding perimeter players this season, but it’s the shifty little dudes who break down the defense and get into the lane that usually torch us. Tonight Rodney Hood went nuclear and just couldn’t miss from deep. He was water on everything, and I wouldn’t even say the Knicks defended him poorly. He was just in a zone.

The Knicks had the game won…in their pockets, but Hood and Burke hit every clutch, contested three and then there was Kristaps….oh…oh….Kristaps. He couldn’t stay calm like…well….Kristaps Porzingis, fouling Super Mike Dunleavy…er…Gordon Hayward for three last second free throws. It was probably his stupidest moment during a spectacular, heady rookie campaign. Hayward and his punchable face just relishes facing the Knicks like all great hot dogs do. He’s so good, and I hate him.

The game was marked by Knicks endurance in the face of uncanny Jazz shooting and sloppy Knicks defense on screen and rolls. The Knicks weren’t historically bad defending screen and roll, but it was enough to make the Jazz hot shooting stick and dropped the home team into a persistent 10 point deficit. The Knicks fought back, but the Jazz hit shot after shot after shot from impossible angles and occasionally from wide open looks around the free throw line extended. The Knicks never let it get too out of hand though, and Melo ignited like the Human Torch in the fourth…swishing and dishing and leading the charge back to the lead late in the 4th. Robin Lopez grabbed every offensive rebound in sight and put back crucial shot after crucial shot. It was definitely his best game of the season.

Not only was Melo in Olympic mode, but he hit a huge milestone passing Larry Bird on the all time scoring list. The word “passing” was also key in his season high 9 assists, and he defended Hayward like Kawhi Leonard down the stretch, denying him the ball and generally bullying him all over the court. Magnificent.

Credit to Langston Galloway and Derrick Williams for really changing the tempo and momentum of the game, making huge plays down the stretch and in the overtime period. The crowd was super into this one, and D-Will had a lot to do with it. He even got a Garden chant after a big “and one” late in OT.

Now that the game is over and the Knicks won, I want to say that the referees were about as awful as can be imagined. They were beyond terrible in multiple stretches of the game, and I kept saying out loud, “No one came to see you pasty guys.” They managed to stay out of the way enough for the game to find prolonged stretches of really fun play up and down the court, but they also managed to insert themselves into particular periods of the game that confounded everyone and promoted a very sluggish, agonizing pace. In the end, that was a lot of fun. It was shouting, hating, cheering, thrilling, gasping, smirking, and winning. Winning is the thing that matters most.

Thanks for playing along at home Knickerbuddies.

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53 thoughts to “Quick Recap: Knicks vs. Jazz”

  1. Do we know if the Knicks have D-Will’s bird rights? He’s making (made?) himself an essential part of the rotation, and they’d be wise to bring him back. (Or at least I think they would as of today, January 21, 2016. Williams is entirely capable of spinning off into another orbit in the next couple of months).

  2. And no, the Knicks do not own any rights to D-Will outside of the general 20% raise deal all free agents get.

  3. So proud of our boys.

    Melo embraced his inner court vision. Loved how Clyde celebrated those 3 crosscourt 3 PT assists and at the same time admonished against them fro the viewers at home.

    It looks like Derrick Williams has finally found an NBA home. I give credit to Phil for seeing something in him most of us, me included, did not. That putback is the highlight of his career so far.

    Very happy also that we won so that KP’s colossal blunder fouling Hayward didn’t make him the scapegoat for losing the game. No need for that extra weight on his shoulders.

    Great win.

  4. Nice recap!!! Awesome win and awesome team effort. Thank you guys for the play by play. I don’t get to see games unless they are on national tv. I don’t have the league pass so I keep it up with the NBA time app and your comments. Shout outs from PR! I gotta admit I didn’t get the league pass thinking my Knicks weren’t going to be that good to watch. I’m so glad I was wrong….

  5. A two year contract with an opt out after one year that he’s sure to use, is the eggzact opposite of finding an NBA home.

  6. Meanwhile harden with 33-17-14 in the loss. With him and Dwight playing well this year and then still sucking I expect some movement from them in the offseason

  7. Really nice win. Forgive the thread hijacking, but would it make sense for the Knicks to deal Williams now while his stock is this high? If things continue apace, he’s walking this offseason and they have a chance to upgrade at point guard now before they get to free agency. They’re going to need all the cap space they can get.

  8. Melo and Williams are probably getting the headlines tonight (deservedly) but Rolo deserves a lot of credit for crushing the stifle tower

  9. Re: DWill I bet he doesn’t leave. It’s NY….he’s played in Minny(somewhat fun city but cold as fuck) and the cow town in Cali. This is the most fun he’s probably having on and off the court in his life

  10. For the record, I like D-Will and think he’s only scratching the surface. But I will erase him from my memory banks if they can reel in Batum to go with point guard upgrade X and the rest of these guys.

  11. It absolutely makes cents. Like you say he’s definitely walking this off-season and this team’s ceiling is a first round exit as is.
    We have the good fortune of a pair of deuces turn into a winning hand. Don’t overplay or get greedy. Trade him while his stock is high and before he leaves.
    That said no way do I see Phil with the balls to openly concede to waving the flag.

  12. My man. The cap is going up 20 million plus. He’s on the books for 5 million if he opts in. He’s leaving.

    Re: DWill I bet he doesn’t leave. It’s NY….he’s played in Minny(somewhat fun city but cold as fuck) and the cow town in Cali. This is the most fun he’s probably having on and off the court in his life

  13. Forgive the thread hijacking, but would it make sense for the Knicks to deal Williams now while his stock is this high?

    Probably, although I’m not sure how high his stock is league wide.

  14. That said no way do I see Phil with the balls to openly concede to waving the flag.

    But if we can trade him for an upgrade at guard (a big if, granted), that’s not waving the flag.

  15. Naively hoping they can bundle him with some combination of Calderon, O’Quinn, Grant (eh, I’m reticent about this), Hernangomez, Seraphin and a second rounder for a point guard under contract through next year. Jrue Holiday? Just thinking out loud.

    Probably, although I’m not sure how high his stock is league wide.

  16. I think even if Williams opts out, the Knicks could still sign him, no? They would end up paying him more, but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t get him at a fair price if he wants to stay.

  17. If a team is trading for a 3 month rental of DWill, that means that expect to compete and they’re not sending a non-garbage player back.

  18. Dion Waiters netted a first round pick last year.

    AA netted a first, a second, and Wil Barton.

    You could probably get something decent for our two FA’s to be. I think this team cares too much about making the playoffs, though. I don’t see them doing it.

    Derrick Williams is our Danny Murphy. Enjoy him this year. Someone’s going to overpay him.

  19. They totally could. I’m just not sure I want to use my space on Derrick Williams. I mean, do you?

    I think even if Williams opts out, the Knicks could still sign him, no? They would end up paying him more, but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t get him at a fair price if he wants to stay.

  20. Who would trade a good PG for half a season of Derrick Williams? Maybe we can get a decent future asset for him, but any team that deals for him knows he’s gone next season

  21. Speaking of Derrick Williams, gotta credit JK47 for being optimistic and noting that his TS% has gone up every year since he’s been a professional. This year has been no different. Great close to the game that the JR and Shump Knicks would have found a way to lose.

  22. Sure they could sign him, but this a journeyman looking for his first “real money” contract after a career year. He’s going to want to get paid, and almost certainly won’t be worth whatever it is he’s asking.

  23. Yeah, it’s definitely not happening straight up. But if they can flip him for a late first and add that to a larger package that includes Hernangomez, O’Quinn, whomever, they might be able to pry a good point guard off a disappointing team. Patrick Beverley?

    Who would trade a good PG for half a season of Derrick Williams? Maybe we can get a decent future asset for him, but any team that deals for him knows he’s gone next season

  24. The Knicks have been shredding teams lately on offense and controlling the pace of the game while getting bottom of the league caliber guard play. Color me impressed. That old Triangle might be working.

  25. It’s not a given Williams will leave in the off-season. The Knicks could choose to let AA go or even try to move Calderon to a place that needs a veteran back up.

    Maybe give cash, Hou 2017 2nd rd pick, & Calderon to someone.

  26. So the plan is give other teams money and one of the few picks we have for the right to overpay DWill?

    Yea thanks but I’ll pass.

  27. Melo was a superstar this game, but the hero is definitely Robin Lopez. He made so many pivotal plays when the game was in the balance, I lost count. That is a character win, ade even more so by overcoming Zinger’s colossal blunder.

    Hood was freakin’ awesome tonight, how often does he play like that?

  28. They totally could. I’m just not sure I want to use my space on Derrick Williams. I mean, do you?

    I don’t know. It depends on how he does over the rest of this year and what we would have to pay him. At the moment, he’s showing he’s a hood sixth man. The price for that might not be outrageous.

  29. Has any one looked at the Knicks schedule from now until March 1? They only leave the eastern seaboard 3 times. Games in Indy, Minny and Detroit. The other 3 road games are against Charlotte, Toronto and Brooklyn.

    So out of 18 games and only 6 are on the road with only one flight longer than 1.5 hours (Minny)

    The Knicks could go on a serious tear right now.

  30. I think this would be a good time to bring in a 10-day guy up from Westchester or any other FA. The knicks will probably have the most practice time they have ever had so far during the season.

    Darion Atkins would be a nice potential defensive guy.

  31. Hey guys. I actually did buy tickets and went to the game tonight – first game in 2 years! And what a game to pick to go to!

    The crowd was super locked-in in the 4th quarter. We could tell the refs were making bad calls before we even saw the replays. Everyone played really well tonight. Major props especially to Melo and D-Will. We just couldn’t defend the 3, which is what let the Jazz hang around after we took the lead.

    P.S. I started the “Derrick Williams” chant, so you’re all welcome for that.

    P.P.S. They mentioned this on espn.com, but it’s really true: The Jumbotron was about to show Ryan Fitzpatrick, but he was with a similar-looking white friend with a beard, and they showed the friend first. The crowd cheered anyway, b/c we have no idea what he really looks like. I wasn’t sure if the telecast mentioned it, so I figured I’d drop that nugget here.

  32. If the Knicks could trade one of Lance Thomas/Derrick Williams for a 1st round pick, I’d go with that. This is a really good draft to get a guard with Kris Dunn, Melo Trimble, and Buddy Hield all having really good years. My personal favorite is Buddy Hield (6’4″ senior guard at OU averaging 26 points on a sky high .682 TS%. He shoots over 50/90 from 3 and the free throw line), but all of these guys are superior and younger prospects to Jerian Grant.

    The player I want most at the trade deadline is Mike Conley, but he isn’t going anywhere. I’d see what’s out there but I’d really enjoy it if we could get a first round pick. I think Buddy Hield is going to be huge in the NBA and I’d love it if we could draft him.

  33. I’m going to the OKC game. Imagine a win that night! Oh man, oh man, I’m getting myself pumped up. :)

  34. Fantastic comeback win in OT. This is the kind of game the Knicks had been losing all season, so it was great to see them turn the corner, cowboy up, and grind out a win down the stretch after blowing it in the 4th. Melo had an outstanding all around game. He came back with a vengence after getting blocked by Gobert. Props to Rolo, D Will, and Galloway who all contributed mightily to the W. We’ll give Kristaps a pass on that stupid foul at the end of regulation, stay on your feet big fella. This team is FUN to watch, which hasn’t been said around here for a while.

    Agree with the comments above, Gordon Hayward has a really nice game. And I love that Buddy Hield on Oklahoma, that dude can flat out Ball!

  35. So the Knicks have a super athletic 24 year old guy playing really well and trending up and you guys want to trade him??? smh

  36. It is not guaranteed the knicks will get anyone good in FA. Aside from Durant/Conley/Batum, any other FA comes with some question mark. Let’s keep D-Will, and if we get some good FA, we let him leave. We dont have to trade him just because we can.

  37. RoLo played like a max player last night, certainly worth every penny of the $13 Million we are paying him. His TS% over the last 2 months is well over .600.

    D-Will is averaging 20 and 7 per 36 at a WS48 of .150. At career highs in almost everything. Considering the hand wringing over his signing, he is making Phil look like a genius.

    Then there’s Lance. We really missed his D last night!

    This team is a top-level PG away from being really good.

  38. hey maybe we can trade DWill for Rodney Hood and Trey Burke. Burke is a PG, No and Hood is superawesome . Let’s do this! :-)

    As for the real world. Melo is really stepping up and becoming so much more than just a scorer (or volume shooter with a TS @ league average for the those so inclined). How many of those late game big threes were off Melo passes? Rolo, as mentioned has been playing like his paycheck. I am with those who think he must have been injured earlier in the season. The hook shot is totally on and is a recent development isn’t it? Friday he meets the shots current master.

  39. I think we realistically can only get a second round pick through either trade or cash in the next draft, but there’s some pretty decent guard prospects in the 2nd round; in no particular order:

    Gary Payton Jr.–the best defensive PG in the NCAA, can guard the 1-3 positions. Good rebounder and shot blocker for his position. His offensive stats are more questionable but his efficiency is rising even though his usage increased by 6%.
    Wayne Selden–This guy is having a breakout season–an absurd .64 TS%, shooting 48% from three, averaging 4 assists per 48, and he’s a slight to average plus on defense playing against major conference teams
    Tyler Ulis-Had a really promising rookie season followed up by the current sophomore campaign, where he’s been struggling; I blame coach Cal, as he’s basically asking Ulis to play a role which he isn’t ready for (i.e. more scoring).

    If Grant improves I’d draft Wayne Selden, if doesn’t I wouldn’t mind Payton Jr. or Quarterman–I might not even mind Payton Jr. even if Grant does improve, just as an insurance plan.

  40. I like Payton Jr. quite a bit. A.J. English is another intriguing guard prospect and I’ve been high on Quarterman for awhile. Also think there’s a chance Caris Levert could drop in to the top of the 2nd round if there’s a way Phil can manage to get in there his skill set is really intriguing and could potentially give us a 2, capable of functioning as a Triangle PG.

  41. Yeah, I want to keep DWill. He’s athletic and can do a lot of things and I think his defense will only get better. And he’s 24! Everyone on here talks about getting young players on the rise and now everyone wants to let him go because he’s gonna want a raise? I mean unless he wants 15 million a year I don’t see why we wouldn’t resign him for a 4 year contract starting at say 7 or 8 million a year. That would mean giving him his raise without going too much into our cap space. For a 24 year old player who is finally putting it together? Sounds like a deal to me.

    And we can most likely move Calderon this off season. One year left at 7 million for a steady veteran guard who has a good attitude and can shoot 3s, with the cap rising? We move Calderon and free up his cap space or even just stretch him that can make room for DWill. Also, hopefully Affalo would opt out too. I’d basically resign DWill at a raise but if Affalo opts out play hardball with him and say we’ll give you 3 years at the same price per year or you can go. Let Affalo walk and trade/stretch Calderon that frees up more than enough space to resign DWill, Gallo and Lance and have cap space to get another guard…Batum. Then use the midlevel on another guard and not bring back Seraphin bc Willie H will come over. Also, maybe look to move Quinn cause he’s been a disappointment but makes only 4 million a year. But I want to hold onto DWill, Lance and Gallo. Lance isn’t young but he’s not old either and Gallo and DWill are young. We need to keep the core, build with youth.

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