Preseason Game Thread: Knicks v. Celtics

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12 thoughts to “Preseason Game Thread: Knicks v. Celtics”

  1. So after the first half of the game tonight, I like…
    … the smooth way Calderon runs the offense. He’s a huge upgrade over Felton.
    …the Melo/Acy/Dalembert/Calderon/JRSmith lineup. Acy and Dalembert bring defensive intensity and you have 3 major threats on offense.
    …how active Shumpert is on defense – and offense. The bounce is back in his step.
    …that Bargnani is sitting.
    …Ware and Early look promising.

  2. Tonight’s starting lineup– Calderon/Shump/Melo/Acy/Dalembert– is actually the starting lineup I was hoping the Knicks would employ this season, with JR, Cole Train, Stat, THJ and Pablo as the key bench players and Bargs, Jason Smith, Larkin and Cleanthony fighting for garbahj time minutes.

  3. It is nuts how much better they look without Bargs. It’s just preseason, which means nothing, but dang.

  4. @3 – I almost agree with your starting 5. Just Stoudemire over Acy. I think Stat’s looking really great. I even like his defensive intensity.

    Some postgame musings…
    What a difference a game makes! … Aldrich reminds me of a lanky, seemingly uncoordinated, bearded, sixth man that once played for the Knicks and now runs the team … Carmelo Anthony is worth every dime he gets paid … Watch this kid Ware. Whoever it was that said there’s only room for one Travis on this team, +1 … I want a breakout year from Hardaway.

    By the way, the trade with the Mavs will go down as a huge win for Jackson. Right now I would take this year’s Dalembert over last year’s Chandler. Calderon over Felton is a no-brainer. Add in Early, Larkin and Thansity and you have to be amazed. Remember that they also got Elington who they traded with Tyler for Acy and Outlaw. Acy is the best of the 4 players and the only one that I would want on the Knicks. So we have him too.

  5. Is it really nuts, though? Bargs is basically the worst player in the NBA. It’s astonishing he gets to much playing time.

  6. So hard to judge anything, the Celts are so putrid. My takeaway:

    Cle and Wear are all tweeners with different strengths and weaknesses. None are really rotation-level players yet (Cle is the only one I think will develop into one.)

    Sullinger is out of shape, but the dude can play.

    Larkin is very raw and kind of all over the place. I like him, though.

    Dalembert is not Chandler, but is a useful player.

    Amare looks lost in the triangle.

    JR is gonna drive Fisher batty.

    Shump seems OK.

    Cole was Cole, Clyde has noticed him.

    Calderon likes to push the ball more than I thought.

    We have a lot of different looks.

  7. My vote for the starting 5? Calderon, Shumpert, Melo, Stat, and Cole Aldrich with Acy being our Taj Gibson. The bench rotation should be the Smiths, Acy, Hardaway Jr., Prigioni, and Dalembert with Early, Wear, and Larkin in place for some spot minutes. I’d actually be okay if we traded Dalembert to Miami for a 2nd round pick or something because I think Jason Smith, Cole Aldrich, and Amar’e Stoudemire are all we need at the 5 this season. The final roster should be:

    PG: Calderon, Prigioni, Larkin
    SG: Shumpert, Hardaway Jr, JR Smith
    SF: Melo, Early, Wear
    PF: Stat, Acy, Jason Smith
    C: Aldrich, Dalembert

    and a Bargnani. Preseason or not, we played the same team twice under the same circumstances both times. The first game, we played Bargnani and lost by twenty. In the second game, Bargnani did not see the floor and we won by 16. Ignore it because it’s the preseason, but don’t say you weren’t warned.

    And if Cole Aldrich plays 30+ minutes, he’ll win MIP with a stat line around 10, 12, and 2blks (he’ll be top 4 in rebounds and blocks a game). It’ll be hilarious because Cole Aldrich wouldn’t have really improved; he’d have just received more minutes on a decent team that happens to play in the largest media market on the planet.

  8. Starting Calderon and Stat means 40% of your starting lineup is made up of grade “F” defensive players. I’ve seen enough of Amar’e Stoudemire at this point to realize that he is a lost cause on the defensive end. This team has too many bad defenders, so they’re going to be forced to play some awful defensive lineups at times but I don’t like the idea of starting Calderon and Stat.

  9. It’s hard for us to put together lineups without (at least) two grade F defenders on the court together. If you bring Stat off the bench are you going to pair him with Timmy? No, no, no-not today.

  10. And if Cole Aldrich plays 30+ minutes, he’ll win MIP with a stat line around 10, 12, and 2blks (he’ll be top 4 in rebounds and blocks a game). It’ll be hilarious because Cole Aldrich wouldn’t have really improved; he’d have just received more minutes on a decent team that happens to play in the largest media market on the planet.

    It reminds me of when Zach Randolph won the Most Improved Player award by literally just hitting his per 36 minute averages from his first two seasons, only with a minute increase from 6 and 17 minutes a game (respectively) to 38 minutes a game in Year Three. “Oh man, he got so much better!”

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