Knicks Waive Green & Hunter

From the Knicks Front Office:

NEW YORK, December 22, 2011 – New York Knickerbockers Senior Vice President, Basketball Operations and Interim General Manager Glen Grunwald announced today that the team has waived guard/forward Devin Green and forward/center Chris Hunter.

Green, 6-7, 212-pounds, signed with New York as a free agent on Dec. 12. He averaged three points over 14 minutes in two preseason games.

Hunter, 6-11, 240-pounds, signed with New York as a free agent on Dec. 12. He did not appear in either of the two preseason games.

The roster stands at 14 players.

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36 thoughts to “Knicks Waive Green & Hunter”

  1. Not really a big deal, but I’m still not sure why we were giving minutes to green when Jordan hasn’t gotten a look yet. Is he hurt?

  2. The Knicks have one roster spot open and still have their $2.5m exception, right? Anyone think they should go after Chuck Hayes, who just got cleared to play after a heart scare resulted in his new deal with Sacramento being voided?

  3. …I’m still trying to get over the fact that jon abbey wrote a multi-paragraph post during the game thread…
    It didn’t seem right to read it all at once. lol

    No surprises in the cut.
    I’m fairly convinces the Knicks aren’t hurting at forward as much as we thought. we’re not great, but we don’t totally suck. Jorts and Balkman and Jeffries will give us some decent minutes, and, frankly, our defense might improve when any of them replace one of our front line forwards…
    I think our back court will hurt us offensively for a bit, but the defense is going to be much, much better.
    So I expect to see slightly less scoring and a significant improvement defensively…like now they’re a top third team on defense in the NBA

  4. I think they definitely should go after Chuck Hayes. He’s better than anyone else on the Knicks bench and he is actually a legit center (despite his relatively small stature).

  5. Hayes could play the 4 or the 5 and yes, would instantly be our best bench player. What $ was he going to get from Sacto?
    I can’t imagine he doesn’t get scooped up by someone else. Getting him would likely send Balkman back to the bench though.

  6. Horrible news about Lopez. Hate to see stuff like that happen just as the season is to start.
    But I fear we will see more of this as this truncated season progresses. These are big bodies being pushed to an extreme

  7. Horrible news about Lopez. Hate to see stuff like that happen just as the season is to start.
    But I fear we will see more of this as this truncated season progresses. These are big bodies being pushed to an extreme

    Excellent point. And especially scary considering who the Knicks’ big men are.

  8. Hayes could play the 4 or the 5 and yes, would instantly be our best bench player. What $ was he going to get from Sacto?
    I can’t imagine he doesn’t get scooped up by someone else. Getting him would likely send Balkman back to the bench though.

    Four years/$21 million.

    He’s obviously someone a lot of teams could use, but with it being so late in the process, I could see him possibly signing a one-year deal for the $2.5 million and then going back on the market next season for more money (heck, the Knicks could then re-sign him to a bigger extension, I believe). Who has money still? Denver? They could use him. Who else? Indy?

  9. No way Chuck Hayes signs for the 2.5M – he had a 4 year contract worth double that last week – my guess is he signs for something similar somewhere else. Will be tough for any team’s medical staff to overrule the Cleveland Clinic.

    I’m still feeling like Kenyon Martin is coming. Too many pictures of K-Mart, Melo, and Amare floating around.

    Re: THCJ’s characteristically pessimistic prediction – he should remember that Paul Pierce was not the uber-efficient scorer we all know and hate now until the other big 2 showed up. His TS% was LESS than Melo’s NYK TS% (57.5) in 7 out of his 9 pre-big 3 seasons and was 55% or less in 4 out of those seasons. Since the big 3 + Rondo came together, his TS hasn’t been less than 58.2. So an inefficient chucker with a usage of >30 became a highly efficient scorer with a usage of ~25 after getting better teammates. Hmmmm, but players never change in the middle of their careers, do they? Oops, yes they can and have. (Any attempt to argue this point will look like a personal vendetta, by the way, THCJ – this HAS happened already in a very similar circumstance).

    I sort of agree that the PG play is going to be pretty ugly. I HOPE that TD grows into this but I think the extent to which we can dream of ECF or NBA finals will probably rest on Baron Davis playing well.

    Re: Chandler – I think it’s highly unlikely that he would’ve maintained a TS near 70 even if he had stayed on Dallas. Last year was his highest TS% by far in his career by 5.5% (but of course playing on a better team with better teammates and working on his game couldn’t affect his efficiency #s?, could it?). He’ll still break 60% and I will be fine with that.

    Fields -I am worried that his post all-star FG% of 45% is more indicative of his future in the league than his pre-all-star FG% of 52%. And I predict that one Shump Shump will be playing equal if not more minutes than Fields by midseason.

    Holding strong on a prediction of 41-25.

  10. You know, everyone keeps referring to the Celtics big three, but more accurately they’re a big four. Rondo is one of the best guards in the game, period. Sure his scoring isn’t great, but his play-making, quickness and overall play is clearly elevated. That team simply doesn’t win many nights without him making it happen.

  11. Frank O.:
    …I’m still trying to get over the fact that jon abbey wrote a multi-paragraph post during the game thread…
    It didn’t seem right to read it all at once. lol

    heh, I wrote it well after the game ended if that helps, I’m a DVR guy most of the time.

    Hayes said he wants to go back to Sacramento if possible, presumably that will happen somehow.

  12. Frank O.:
    Horrible news about Lopez. Hate to see stuff like that happen just as the season is to start.
    But I fear we will see more of this as this truncated season progresses. These are big bodies being pushed to an extreme

    If Nets fans have anything to be thankful for, it’s not having to see Lopez cry after every call that doesn’t go his way. I might actually tune in to watch their 15-win team this year.

  13. Frank at 9–Chandler’s TS % could be enhanced if the team could effectively execute the old PnR. The big man sets one nasty pick (love it), has great hands and can finish. If he gets fouled, he can sink a free throw (70% or so). I noticed Toney run a couple with him last night. With Melo dribbling and Chandler setting the screen, the defense would be between a rock and a hard place. Could be devastating and so many options off that set. This simple play should work quite well with our guys. It is difficult to defend if executed. David Lee used to PnR teams to death. W/O trying to be overly critical, if Toney can’t run the PnR, he simply can not play point. Isn’t this something that should be our bread and butter?

  14. Chuck Hayes would be just swell, but I have to think another team will swoop in with a better offer than the Knicks’ mini mid-level exception. Along similar lines, is Joey Dorsey still available? I always thought he had some Ben Wallace/late bloomer potential. He’s not half the defender that Big Ben is(was), but he can rebound and he’s nasty. Plus he’s from Baltimore, so there’s an excellent chance we can revive Melo’s stop-snitching meme.

    On a separate note, does anyone else think that John Hollinger is a stuffy food critic trapped in the body of an NBA analyst? It came to me like a revelation earlier this morning. I think I need this season to start already before I lose my mind completely.

  15. steveoh:
    Waiving Green and Hunter logically clears up a roster space for Allen Iverson.

    He called me and told me he doesn’t want to play for a team that THCJ roots for.

  16. Frank O- Really sad news about Brook who had a serious injury–a bright and decent young athlete with a bright future in Brooklyn. Nothing good or funny about it. Like a doctoral candidate who suffers a head injury. Only a self centered shallow asshole would find it entertaining. Just my opinion.

  17. It’s funny you say that, daJudge.

    I know a guy who had a head injury just before beginning his PhD at NYU.

    Breaking your foot is absolutely NOTHING like having a head injury. Way more offensive than my joke about how much Brook Lopez cries is comparing a millionaire athlete breaking his foot to anyone — much less an intellectual — having a head injury.

  18. I’m wondering how many different times, by different people, in different ways does someone have to be called an a-hole before one takes a look in the mirror and realizes that they may have a point.

  19. Hey THCJ, for Christmas do you just buy a bag of coal and sort them out from that bag? Or do you buy people individual bags of coal?

    I’d also bet you’d be awesome to see movies with, complaining left and right during mission impossible that Tom Cruise’s %’s don’t line up well enough for him to possibly swing into that window…..

  20. wow, that is a 180 from Big Oak.

    it’s amazing and exciting to see people pick a Knick as NBA Defensive Player of the Year (as a handful of people did in the ESPN polls), in a league where Dwight Howard in his prime still exists. I’m not sure Chandler can really be quite that good, but it’s amazing and exciting to me that it’s even a possibility.

  21. @26, It’s just like LeBron not winning MVP. Illogical according to statistics, but everybody likes a good story.

  22. jon abbey:
    wow, that is a 180 from Big Oak.

    it’s amazing and exciting to see people pick a Knick as NBA Defensive Player of the Year (as a handful of people did in the ESPN polls), in a league where Dwight Howard in his prime still exists. I’m not sure Chandler can really be quite that good, but it’s amazing and exciting to me that it’s even a possibility.

    Anything that associates the Knicks with defense gets a big thumbs up from me!

  23. If Mickael Pietrus likes the Knicks,
    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/8266/source-knicks-fit-pietrus-criteria
    well then, on behalf of my little tropically displaced corner of Knick fandom, for the 2.5, I like him right back – so long as he passes his physical. I’d like K-Mart more, but doubt he’ll settle for 2.5 and besides, it’d be nice to solidify the roster early and stop the freakin’ musical chairs already. If he’s still got it, Pietrus can play him some dogged D. And between him and Landry we’d have a couple of the better rebounding 2s in the league.

  24. Hayes would be better than Pietrus, of course, but there’s risks and there’s risks. Till somebody he’s not paying says it’s really OK, I’d rather see Chuck pushin’ paper than wipin’ glass.

  25. Thanks for that taggart. That’s the type of basketball analysis I was hoping would be featured more on this site. It actually looks at how the team responds to certain situations and is more valuable to me rather than player X has %34324 better than player Y. That video of the 3-2 screen where Walker actually created a 2nd screen is something I didn’t realize was happening.

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