Knicks Morning News (Tuesday, Dec 13 2011)

  • [New York Times] Clippers Halt Talks for Chris Paul (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:40:14 GMT)

    A whirlwind of nonactivity Monday concluded with the Los Angeles Clippers breaking off a deal to acquire Chris Paul and the Orlando Magic affirming their efforts to keep Dwight Howard.

  • [New York Times] Prokhorov’s Candidacy Doesn’t Faze the N.B.A. (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:47:19 GMT)

    The announcement of Mikhail D. Prokhorov’s pursuit of the Russian presidency was greeted with a shrug by league officials.

  • [New York Times] On Basketball: Grunwald’s Plan: Speak Softly and Sign a Big Man (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:39:09 GMT)

    With limited cap space and little use for talk, Glen Grunwald has set to work on turning the Knicks into title contenders.

  • [New York Times] Clippers Claim Billups, Keep Jordan (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:28:08 GMT)

    The Los Angeles Clippers have claimed Chauncey Billups off waivers and re-signed restricted free agent DeAndre Jordan, the NBA team announced Monday.

  • [New York Times] ‘I Am Myself Again’ Says Relaxed LeBron (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:04:27 GMT)

    LeBron James became the man U.S. sports fans loved to hate when he left Cleveland for the Miami Heat last year and many celebrated when he stumbled in the NBA finals, losing to the Dallas Mavericks.

  • [New York Times] Hornets Try to Be Patient Over Paul’s Status (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:19:21 GMT)

    Hornets general manager Dell Demps paced in and out of the club’s practice gym with his mobile phone to his ear.

  • [New York Times] Clippers Say No Deal to Proposed Trade for Paul (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:52:23 GMT)

    The day began with the Los Angeles Clippers rejecting a proposed deal by the New Orleans Hornets for Chris Paul and it ended with them claiming five-time All-Star guard Chauncey Billups off waivers and re-signing center DeAndre Jordan.

  • [New York Times] Lakers Still Looking for Deals After Paul Debacle (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:01:22 GMT)

    Mitch Kupchak feels he got stuck in a quagmire created by the NBA when the Los Angeles Lakers’ disallowed trade for Chris Paul forced the general manager to ship out Lamar Odom in another hasty deal.

  • [New York Times] NBA Institutes New Concussion Policy (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:28:15 GMT)

    The NBA has put in place a concussion policy that will determine when players return from head injuries.

  • [New York Post] Knicks GM makes all the right moves (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:11:21 -0500)

    Knicks interim general manager Glen Grunwald and coach Mike Dâ??Antoni are unsure of their futures after this season. But Dâ??Antoni believes Grunwald has added the last piece in 7-foot-1 center Tyson Chandler to a strong frontcourt and ensure a championship future in New York.
    During yesterdayâ??s media…

  • [New York Post] Melo tweaks knee (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:08:52 -0500)

    The Knicks saw how fragile their championship dreams are yesterday when a hush fell over their practice facility as Carmelo Anthony crumbled to the floor and stayed down for 20 seconds after hyperextending his left knee during a drill. Anthony is listed as day-to-day.
    Anthony stepped on rookie Iman Shumpert…

  • [New York Post] Stoudemire has plenty of help now (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 04:41:05 -0500)

    A year ago, Amarâ??e Stoudemire was a one-man marketing campaign, using his broad shoulders and confident attitude to convince anyone who would listen that â??the Knicks are backâ? long before anyone really believed they were.
    Yesterday, he sat at a table at the Knicksâ?? practice facility, flanked by NBA…

  • [New York Post] Baron may come to Garden (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 03:11:50 -0500)

    If the Knicks canâ??t get Jamal Crawford to accept their $2.5 million exception and have his agent, Andy Miller, help swing a three-team trade, interim general manager Glen Grunwald has a fallback plan â?? sore-backed point guard Baron Davis.Sources said Davis will either be waived via the amnesty…

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks make a house call to Crawford (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:31:19 GMT)

    Mark Warkentien, the Knicks director of player personnel, was in Jamal Crawford’s hometown of Seattle Monday to try to convince the guard to sign a one-year, $2.5 million contract with his former club.

  • [ – New York Knicks] Agent: Williams to decide by Wednesday (Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:43:16 EDT)

    If the Knicks want to sign Shawne Williams, they may only have two more days — at most — to make their pitch.
    Williams’ agent Happy Walters told by phone Monday that he expects Williams to commit to a team by Wednesday. The free-agent forward had a breakout season in New York last year.
    Walters has been in contact with the Knicks in recent days.
    “They know where we stand we know where we stand,” he said.
    Interim general manager Glen Grunwald said on Monday that the Knicks are over the salary cap.]]>

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    6 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (Tuesday, Dec 13 2011)”

    1. So here’s the preseason question: is this team better now than it would have been if we didn’t make the Melo trade?

      PG: Felton
      SG: Fields
      SF: Gallo
      PF: Amare
      C: Turiaf
      Bench: Mozgov, TD, Shawne
      – tons of 2012 cap space to go after DH, CP3, DWill

      Post-Melo and various signings:
      PG: TD
      SG: Fields
      SF: Melo
      PF: Amare
      C: Tyson Chandler
      – good salary structure but zero cap room until 2015

      Ultimately the trade was probably Melo + Tyson Chandler+2014 pick for potentially CP3/DWill/DH12 + Gallo, with the added caveat that 2011-12 would have been a lost (ie. no chance at a title) season, and that there is no guarantee that going after the big 3 2012 free agents wouldn’t have ended up like the Lebron chase.

      It’s tough to say IMO. Despite what THCJ and others might say, I think Melo >>> Gallo, so it’s pretty close. I have to agree with the FO for this since having guys under contract is way better than hoping that they will sign with you in the future.

      Last thought – we really should be thanking our lucky stars for Donnie Walsh. We may not have agreed with everything he did (see: betting the house for a chance at Lebron) but I think he understands that building a team probably is not just done on a calculator with B-R up on the computer. He took a chance on Amare and his uninsurable knees. Melo doesn’t come unless Amare is here and already playing well. Tyson doesn’t come unless Melo and Amare are both here. It’s like things grow exponentially, not linearly since each piece attracts more pieces.

      I’m really liking this team right now. I think it’s as well balanced a team as any Knick team in the last 15 years. Christmas can’t get here soon enough!

    2. So this is the possible team as we hope to still potentially sign Shawne and Jamal.

      1. TD, Bibby (Crawford plays the 1 as does Shump at times)
      2. Fields, Crawford, Shump, Walker
      3. Melo (Fields moves to 3 when Melo goes out, Extra E and Walker)
      4. Stat, Extra E, Jeffries
      5. Chandler (Stat, Jeffries, with Jordan and Jorts possible)

      I really think that with the strangeness of this year that if we can beat the Heat that we will be in the Finals against…. OK City. Getting the depth with Jamal and Extra E is critical.

    3. Danilo Gallinari as a Knugget

      .133 WS48

      Carmelo Anthony as a Knick

      .157 WS48

      I just don’t see how the argument is valid. Plus, Gallinari’s WS48 PLUMMETED when he was traded to Denver, all the way from .140 to .133. Without D’antoni’s system, he just couldn’t thrive.

      (Complete hogwash, bro.)

    4. Don’t forget that there are pickups to be made as the season progresses. There are still players over seas (what does Denver do about all the free agents they have who are overseas this year?) who will return and expiring contracts who will be cut in time to sign for the playoffs. We have time to tweak our roster as the season progresses.

    5. Regarding Crawford – do the Knicks envision starting him over Fields at the 2? While he seems to have found his niche, giving him starter minutes would do nothing but dilute the effectiveness of STAT and Melo. If they just want him to come in for 10-15 mpg, fine.

      That said, with Barea getting $3.5M per, I don’t see Craw settling for less than that. What is the story with Michael Redd? Has he signed somewhere, is he (relatively) healthy? He could bs a solid vet alternative to Crawford.

    6. The Surprisingly yet Cautiously Optimistic C. J., #1 Gentleman:
      Danilo Gallinari as a Knugget

      .133 WS48

      Carmelo Anthony as a Knick

      .157 WS48

      I just don’t see how the argument is valid. Plus, Gallinari’s WS48 PLUMMETED when he was traded to Denver, all the way from .140 to .133. Without D’antoni’s system, he just couldn’t thrive.

      (Complete hogwash, bro.)

      Considering how bad the Knuggets will be this year, Gallo is likely to see an increase in USG% (along with Ty Lawson). It will be interesting to see if their WS/48 improves, worsens, or stays the same. I don’t think Melo and Gallo are comparable as yet, seeing that their usages are a lot different. Melo’s usage is bound to take a slight hit, and Gallo’s usage is likely to see a significant increase. I think they’ll be comparable this season, for sure.

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