Knicks Morning News (Thursday, Oct 18 2012)

  • [New York Post] Knicks’ Camby vows to be ready next week (Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:52:00 -0500)

    Marcus Camby is on the way back. Next week.
    In his first comments since going down on the third day of training camp with a calf strain, Camby Wednesday said he believes he will be back to practice Tuesday once the Knicks return from their three-game preseason road trip to…

  • [New York Post] Rasheed’s contract not guaranteed ’til Jan. (Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:43:16 -0500)

    Coach Mike Woodson has time to decide if out-of-shape Rasheed Wallace can help the Knicks before owner James Dolan is on the hook for the entire $1.3 million veteran’s minimum.
    According to a person familiar with the situation, Wallace’s contract won’t be guaranteed in full until…

  • [New York Daily News] Caution Brew-ing with Knicks guard (Thu, 18 Oct 2012 03:33:40 GMT)

    Six weeks after having surgery to repair his left knee, projected starting shooting guard Ronnie Brewer went through a limited practice session Wednesday and is hopeful of making his preseason debut for the Knicks on Friday in Montreal.

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    18 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (Thursday, Oct 18 2012)”

    1. This was the funniest line in Tim Keown’s hatchet piece about Melo:

      “He needs to be around someone who is feared, someone who could tell him what to do. He just couldn’t see Jeremy Lin that way.”

      I need someone who is feared. Now go get me Ray Felton.

    2. JK47:
      This was the funniest line in Tim Keown’s hatchet piece about Melo:

      “He needs to be around someone who is feared, someone who could tell him what to do. He just couldn’t see Jeremy Lin that way.”

      I need someone who is feared.Now go get me Ray Felton.

      Hilarious!

    3. Jafa: Hilarious!

      Assuming you accept premise that Melo is Grunwald by proxy, then you either have to believe that Melo is so stupid that he believes he needs a feared player like Felton, or is too stupid to know he needs a feared player around him to be successfull.

      That, or you dont accept premise that somehow Lin strikes more fear than Carmelo Anthony.

      Its a riot of you believe any of those.

    4. I think Melo would love to play with a PG and leader he deems elite, like CP3. I don’t think he would mind following the lead of one of those guys, evidenced from his tenure with AI & Billups. However, I think he does not see Lin in that light (nor should he). Hence his rebellion against MDA and ultimately Lin.

      If we had landed Nash this offseason, everything would be different. Instead we landed Felton, another PG that Melo does not view as elite or a leader. Hence the humor in JK47’s post.

      This is part of why I want Kidd to start over Felton. I think Melo will willingly follow his lead (as will Chandler and Amare). I don’t care that Kidd is old, I think he should start, set the tone, and then Felton can spell him. We need that leadership from the start and it really hard to be a leader from the bench (in my opinion).

    5. I don’t understand why so many have written Felton off. In 2.5 out of his three past seasons, he has played relatively well. The only times during that span when he hasn’t played well was towards the end of his Knicks tenure (D’Antoni had run him into the ground the same way he did Duhon and Lin) and for the first half of last season when he reported out of shape after a lockout and hated his coach who was fired. He also hasn’t played with good teams very often. When the Bobcats finally got better in 2009-2010, he had his best full season and put up decent stats. He never really had a veteran team or mentor like he does now.

      I don’t think he ever becomes an elite PG, but he does seem to have leadership qualities (Larry Brown loved the guy.) The real question is, can he be to us what Fisher was for the Lakers or what B.J. Armstrong was for the Bulls, with Kidd there to both mentor him and to replace him when the situation calls for it? If Kidd starts, he’d rack up too many minutes to save his legs for the playoffs.

      Rightly or wrongly, I think Amare, Melo and Chandler, and most importantly, Woodson, have more faith in Felton than they had in Lin. There’s a lot of experience in Kidd and Prigioni, and if they have Felton’s back, they will sell Amare and Melo on Felton…so long as Felton plays reasonably well. If he sucks, he will play less and Kidd and Prigioni will play more.

    6. Jafa:
      I think Melo would love to play with a PG and leader he deems elite, like CP3.I don’t think he would mind following the lead of one of those guys, evidenced from his tenure with AI & Billups.However, I think he does not see Lin in that light (nor should he).Hence his rebellion against MDA and ultimately Lin.

      If we had landed Nash this offseason, everything would be different.Instead we landed Felton, another PG that Melo does not view as elite or a leader.Hence the humor in JK47?s post.

      This is part of why I want Kidd to start over Felton.I think Melo will willingly follow his lead (as will Chandler and Amare).I don’t care that Kidd is old, I think he should start, set the tone, and then Felton can spell him.We need that leadership from the start and it really hard to be a leader from the bench (in my opinion).

      Fair post. But this respect thing is overblown. If Melo gets the ball when he’s open, and when he has a groove or mismatch, everything is all good.

      Melo has been totally laudatory of Felton so far. Trusting his quarterbscking. And Raymond is the best passer/penetrating combo Melo ever played with.

    7. Z-man:
      I don’t understand why so many have written Felton off. In 2.5 out of his three past seasons, he has played relatively well. The only times during that span when he hasn’t played well was towards the end of his Knicks tenure (D’Antoni had run him into the ground the same way he did Duhon and Lin) and for the first half of last season when he reported out of shape after a lockout and hated his coach who was fired. He also hasn’t played with good teams very often. When the Bobcats finally got better in 2009-2010, he had his best full season and put up decent stats. He never really had a veteran team or mentor like he does now.

      I don’t think he ever becomes an elite PG, but he does seem to have leadership qualities (Larry Brown loved the guy.) The real question is, can he be to us what Fisher was for the Lakers or what B.J. Armstrong was for the Bulls, with Kidd there to both mentor him and to replace him when the situation calls for it? If Kidd starts, he’d rack up too many minutes to save his legs for the playoffs.

      Rightly or wrongly, I think Amare, Melo and Chandler, and most importantly, Woodson, have more faith in Felton than they had in Lin. There’s a lot of experience in Kidd and Prigioni, and if they have Felton’s back, they will sell Amare and Melo on Felton…

      Great post as always. Look out how Raymond played in Denver when he didn’t have to create every play as he’s been asked to every year of his career.
      His fga went down, his efficiency was decent, and his playmaking shined.

      Playing with Melo AND Amar’e will decrease Felton’s bad shots, increase his spot-ups, where he is solid.

      His numbers will look a lot better in this situation.
      This guy is every bit as good of a passer/penetrator as any second tier point guard in the NBA. He’s a better playmaker than Lebron, and any pg Melos played with. He’s very good in that area and above…

    8. I believe there was a play agains the Celtics where Kidd was screaming at Melo to reverse the ball but Melo liked the matchup. Can’t remember who was defending Melo. Does anybody remember or saw what I was talking about?

    9. knicknyk:
      I believe there was a play agains the Celtics where Kidd was screaming at Melo to reversethe ball but Melo liked the matchup. Can’t remember who was defending Melo. Does anybody remember or saw what I was talking about?

      Hasn’t the ball movement been 180 degrees different ( or whatever the angle the full 3pt line makes) with these pgs?

    10. Guys a quick question. Ive been getting NBA League Pass since 2007 but unfortunately it looks like I will have to skip getting it this season. I read that NBA.com has Audio League Pass and it looks like its free. Is this true?? Thats a decent alternative at least (besides looking for illegal streams of course). So just curious if anyone has used NBA League Pass Audio and if it is indeed free.

      At least this season the Knicks are on national TV almost 30 times and I still have NBA TV so watching highlights and hopefully some late-game live coverage will be no problem.

    11. ruruland: Hasn’t the ball movement been 180 degrees different ( or whatever the angle the full 3pt line makes) with these pgs?

      I take it you saw the precise play that I was talking about?

      And @11 yes the audio is free.

    12. BigBlueAL:
      Guys a quick question.Ive been getting NBA League Pass since 2007 but unfortunately it looks like I will have to skip getting it this season.I read that NBA.com has Audio League Pass and it looks like its free.Is this true??Thats a decent alternative at least (besides looking for illegal streams of course).So just curious if anyone has used NBA League Pass Audio and if it is indeed free.

      At least this season the Knicks are on national TV almost 30 times and I still have NBA TV so watching highlights and hopefully some late-game live coverage will be no problem.

      I’ll have two through the first month. I’ll hit you up with password that will be good through November, maybe even mid December.

      rururuland@yahoo.com

    13. knicknyk: I take it you saw the precise play that I was talking about?

      And @11 yes the audio is free.

      I don’t recall. Wouldn’t be surprised if it happened.

    14. knicknyk: I believe there was a play agains the Celtics where Kidd was screaming at Melo to reverse the ball but Melo liked the matchup. Can’t remember who was defending Melo. Does anybody remember or saw what I was talking about?

      I do, it was exactly as you put it. It will take time to build chemistry and trust. Bottom line is, when Melo is justified in liking the matchup, he should operate as any elite scorer does and go at the defender. It’s when he gets overconfident or settles for lower perctnage shots that he hurts the team, and where Kidd’s influence will be needed.

    15. Z-man: I do, it was exactly as you put it. It will take time to build chemistry and trust. Bottom line is, when Melo is justified in liking the matchup, he should operate as any elite scorer does and go at the defender. It’s when he gets overconfident or settles for lower perctnage shots that he hurts the team, and where Kidd’s influence will be needed.

      Who was the matchup again? I honestly can’t even remember who was defending him.

    16. I don’t either, it wasn’t Pierce or Garnett.

      PS some observations about the Celts-Nets game:

      I really like the floor at the Barclays Center

      Blatche looks like he will be a really good player for the Nets

      The Celts look very tough

    17. Z-man:

      Blatche looks like he will be a really good player for the Nets

      Maybe if he raises his TS% by 100 points, learns how to not be an awful rebounder, and overall learns how to be good at basketball. The dude has never posted a PPS higher than 1.15 (1.29 is average for C), and last season he had a 0.90. Yes. 0.90. That means that he scored at about 66% of the AVERAGE center’s efficiency. Do I need to explain how abysmal this is? Any kind of interaction effect would have to be HUGE to offset this kind of ineptness.

      In person, every NBA player looks like a magnificent athlete. Blatche is absolutely terrible, and even a huge improvement would leave him at below-average. If he ever even becomes an average NBA basketball player, I will quit the board forever. Eyetest? Stop it.

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