Knicks Morning News (Thursday, May 03 2012)

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks playoff ineptitude: A timeline (Thu, 03 May 2012 03:42:46 GMT)

    The New York Knicks have not won a playoff game in quite some time.” In fact, it’s been over 11 years – and 12 games – since their last postseason victory. Here is a brief look at the losing streak:

  • [New York Daily News] Chandler thanks Knick mates for “poor defense” (Thu, 03 May 2012 03:32:12 GMT)

    TYSON CHANDLER stepped to the podium, accepted his trophy Wednesday as the NBA’s Defensive Player of the Year and thanked his teammates ALL­Â­for facilitating the accolade.”I would like to thank my teammates because without their poor defense and letting people fly by them I wouldn’t get credit for stepping up,â? Chandler said.

  • [New York Daily News] Amar’e missing game and still missing point (Thu, 03 May 2012 03:21:20 GMT)

    T he next time Amar’e Stoudemire wants to make some noise, as he said he was merely doing when he took a swing at that glass fire extinguisher door in Miami, he should probably try to limit that to the court.

  • [New York Daily News] Another Knicks playoff loss would be one for books (Thu, 03 May 2012 02:44:44 GMT)

    Mike Bibby, a veteran of 102 playoff games and three conference finals, was in disbelief when told of his team’s long-standing ineptitude. “Eleven years without a playoff win?â? Bibby asked. “Not one game?â?

  • [New York Daily News] Amar’e: ‘Great chance’ for a Game 4 return (Thu, 03 May 2012 02:40:19 GMT)

    Knicks forward Amar’e Stoudemire wore a gray t-shirt emblazoned with the words “Marked Man” as he attempted to explain the level of frustration that led him to swing his left hand into a fire extinguisher case in Miami.

  • [New York Times] Impassively, Knicks’ Amar’e Stoudemire Describes His Accident (Thu, 03 May 2012 05:50:06 GMT)

    Forward Amar’e Stoudemire won’t play in Game 3 of the Knicks’ playoff series with the Heat, but he said he hoped to play in Game 4 on Sunday in New York.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: N.B.A. Playoffs – Pacers Beat Magic for 2-1 Lead (Thu, 03 May 2012 05:50:07 GMT)

    Danny Granger had 26 points and 9 rebounds and Roy Hibbert added 18 points and 10 rebounds as Indiana beat Orlando, 97-74, in Game 3.

  • [New York Times] Grizzlies Keep Clippers at Bay, Spurs and Pacers Win (Thu, 03 May 2012 05:21:43 GMT)

    Memphis suffered no ill effects of their stunning Game One capitulation to complete a measured 105-98 triumph over the Los Angeles Clippers on Wednesday to tie up their first-round Western Conference series at 1-1.

  • [New York Times] Grizzlies Even Series 1-1, Beat Clippers 105-98 (Thu, 03 May 2012 04:48:39 GMT)

    O.J. Mayo scored 10 of his 20 points in the fourth quarter, and the Memphis Grizzlies bounced back to beat the Los Angeles Clippers 105-98 on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Pacers Shoot Past Magic to Take 2-1 Lead (Thu, 03 May 2012 02:19:13 GMT)

    Danny Granger had 26 points and nine rebounds, Roy Hibbert added 18 points and 10 rebounds, and the Indiana Pacers beat the Orlando Magic 97-74 on Wednesday night to a take a 2-1 lead in the first-round series.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Blow Out Jazz 114-83 to Take 2-0 Lead (Thu, 03 May 2012 01:48:51 GMT)

    Tony Parker scored 18 points and the San Antonio Spurs handed Utah its second-worst playoff loss in franchise history, beating the Jazz 114-83 on Wednesday night to take a 2-0 lead in the first-round series.

  • [New York Times] Spurs, Pacers Earn Wins to Seize Leads in Playoff Series (Thu, 03 May 2012 02:28:09 GMT)

    The top-seeded San Antonio Spurs thrashed Utah 114-83 on Wednesday to take a 2-0 lead in their Western Conference first-round series.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: The Former Knicks Coach Fuzzy Levane Dies at 92 (Thu, 03 May 2012 05:07:46 GMT)

    Fuzzy Levane, who died Monday at 92, was the Knicks’ coach in 1958 when he hired Red Holzman as a team scout. Holzman, who coached them to their only championships, in 1970 and 1973.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Dwyane Wade Dominates Through Subtlety (Thu, 03 May 2012 03:49:30 GMT)

    In the shadow of teammate LeBron James, Dwyane Wade has begun his playoff run with understated brilliance.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Injuries Change Playoff Lineups (Thu, 03 May 2012 04:49:33 GMT)

    The N.B.A. playoffs have a growing list of injured players, with some big names out of action.

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    29 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (Thursday, May 03 2012)”

    1. Chandler ‘thanking’ teammates for their poor D. So funny, but so sad.

    2. A good message moment for Chandler in a playoff series in which Knicks simply need to elevate their D in order to have any chance to save face.

    3. Bosh supposedly returning to Miami to be with his wife for the birth of their son, may not play tonight. Finally, a break for our side, we better take advantage!

    4. He left on a private jet at 2am, he could still be back for the game.

      d-mar:
      Bosh supposedly returning to Miami to be with his wife for the birth of their son, may not play tonight. Finally, a break for our side, we better take advantage!

    5. I am as frustrated as anyone about Amare’s act of stupidity but why is everyone equating it to his back injury last year and saying that that, too, was a “self-inflicted” injury? He hurt his back dunking in warmups. So what. Players don’t dunk all the time in warmups? Some people have written recently that he was trying to do a “trick dunk.” Where in the world did THAT version of reality come from? When it happened, NO ONE reported that he did anything unusual or out of the ordinary. It was merely a freak injury. (As someone who occasionally suffers from back spasms and pulled back muscles, I can tell you that it sometimes happens when I do something as innocuous as bending over to tie my shoe.)

    6. I actually do remember hearing, last year, that Amar’e was trying to do a highlight dunk in warm-ups and caught back spasms. That story wasn’t made up in the past few days.

    7. @5

      This is true. I don’t really hold Amare’s injury in the playoffs last year against him. This year is a different story.

      His post-fire extinguisher comments haven’t exactly done him proud either:

      “But it wasn’t like I had a closed fist and just punched through glass. It was like I just walked by and wanting to make some noise, swung my arms and didn’t realize I was cut at all until Josh Harrellson told me I was cut.”

      Just swung his arms around because he wanted to make some noise. Just a freak accident and not something Amar’e needs to be accountable for. Contrition is not his jam, I guess. Barf.

    8. Chris Bosh being out tonight would truly be a blessing. This way we can pack the lane with Joel Anthony and Udonis Haslem as their starting front court. We can get better without Amar’e, but I doubt the Heat are a better team without the Bostrich.

    9. The idea that the Knicks are better without Amar’e is wishful thinking. His minutes are going to get scattered around to replacement-level players who have no business seeing the floor during a playoff game.

      If we truly are better off without our max contract power forward, especially considering our already ridiculously depleted depth, that is truly a sad state of affairs.

    10. JK47: @5This is true. I don’t really hold Amare’s injury in the playoffs last year against him. This year is a different story.His post-fire extinguisher comments haven’t exactly done him proud either:“But it wasn’t like I had a closed fist and just punched through glass. It was like I just walked by and wanting to make some noise, swung my arms and didn’t realize I was cut at all until Josh Harrellson told me I was cut.”Just swung his arms around because he wanted to make some noise. Just a freak accident and not something Amar’e needs to be accountable for. Contrition is not his jam, I guess. Barf.

      Give it a rest. Am I the only one who’s hit something out of anger with myself? It was an accident. I don’t fault him for trying to dismiss the media firestorm that made it seem like he started brutally mauling a pane of glass over and over to try to get injured. I’m sure he feels completely remorseful, and he even wants to rush back in with his hand still bandaged.

      It’s pretty disgusting how quick this board started questioning his character after the incident. His character shouldn’t be in question, he’s a great leader and helped pull this team out of dispondency.

      What I really think people are upset about is his production, which is an absolutely fair assessment. We should never have given someone with his injury history/inability to play on both sides of the court that much money. We should’ve looked to trade him all throughout this year for that reason to get someone who works better with Melo, in my opinion. It’s just smart business.

      But he’s loyal to the team and the city. I’m pissed at people questioning that because of this one mistake. YES, he doesn’t fit with the team considering his contract, but NO it’s not because he’s some renegade hothead that kills morale.

    11. Maybe I’m a sucker but I actually believe his explanation. I have often heard guys banging metal lockers in locker rooms to make noise to get psyched for a game and in frustration after a game. The pane of glass that he hit was really small compared to the size of the stainless steel cabinet and I doubt very seriously that he was aiming for the glass. We can pick apart his words all we want but, according to Marc Berman (who usually looks for anything and everything negative to say about the Knicks), Amare rehabbed 10 hours a day to try to recover from his bulging disk and get back for the playoffs. Do you REALLY think that he’s not remorseful and pretty pissed off at himself for his own stupidity. Yes, he did something really really dumb but cut the guy a break — he wants to play as badly as anyone in the league.

      JK47: @5This is true. I don’t really hold Amare’s injury in the playoffs last year against him. This year is a different story.His post-fire extinguisher comments haven’t exactly done him proud either:“But it wasn’t like I had a closed fist and just punched through glass. It was like I just walked by and wanting to make some noise, swung my arms and didn’t realize I was cut at all until Josh Harrellson told me I was cut.”Just swung his arms around because he wanted to make some noise. Just a freak accident and not something Amar’e needs to be accountable for. Contrition is not his jam, I guess. Barf.

    12. The questioning of his contract due to his “injury history” is also revisionist history. His “history” consisted of a freak eye injury (the Giants lost their left tackle to the same injury this year) and his knee surgery. He hasn’t missed a SINGLE game in 4 years due to his knee. It is also wrong to say that he “doesn’t fit” with this team. Everyone ignores a very important fact — his stats for the 25 games before the Melo trade last year were ALMOST IDENTICAL to his stats after the trade — 25.2 points and 8 rebounds on 52% shooting before versus 24.5 points and 8 rebounds on 52% shooting after.

      Matt Smith: Give it a rest. Am I the only one who’s hit something out of anger with myself? It was an accident. I don’t fault him for trying to dismiss the media firestorm that made it seem like he started brutally mauling a pane of glass over and over to try to get injured. I’m sure he feels completely remorseful, and he even wants to rush back in with his hand still bandaged.It’s pretty disgusting how quick this board started questioning his character after the incident. His character shouldn’t be in question, he’s a great leader and helped pull this team out of dispondency.What I really think people are upset about is his production, which is an absolutely fair assessment. We should never have given someone with his injury history/inability to play on both sides of the court that much money. We should’ve looked to trade him all throughout this year for that reason to get someone who works better with Melo, in my opinion. It’s just smart business.But he’s loyal to the team and the city. I’m pissed at people questioning that because of this one mistake. YES, he doesn’t fit with the team considering his contract, but NO it’s not because he’s some renegade hothead that kills morale.

    13. He’s rationalizing it.

      “Everybody gets upset at times,” he said. “People knock over ice coolers or kick a chair or a table. It was accidental that I struck the glass. I just swung my arm backward.”

      I mean, come on. Don’t try to defend what you did, dude, and don’t rationalize it.

    14. massive:
      I actually do remember hearing, last year, that Amar’e was trying to do a highlight dunk in warm-ups and caught back spasms. That story wasn’t made up in the past few days.

      Something that he’d done a hundred times before.

    15. d-mar:
      Bosh supposedly returning to Miami to be with his wife for the birth of their son, may not play tonight. Finally, a break for our side, we better take advantage!

      Savvy veterans know not to have sex with their wives in August for exactly this reason. Another indication the Heat just don’t have the mental fortitude to win a championship.

    16. Z: Savvy veterans know not to have sex with their wives in August for exactly this reason. Another indication the Heat just don’t have the mental fortitude to win a championship.

      Ha ha, now Aldridge reporting the baby is out and Bosh will play. She couldn’t take 12 hours like with my first kid? The Knicks are truly cursed!

    17. the dunk Amare got hurt on in warmups last year was one where he touched both sides of the backboard after dunking, something no one would ever do in a game ever. totally unnnecessary, and almost as bad as his self-inflicted injury this year. I’ve given him shit repeatedly for that since then, it’s not new.

      has anyone else in the entire league knocked themselves out of the playoffs in the last two seasons? Amare’s done it twice now.

    18. Any thoughts here on who should start tonight? My feeling is that in order to have a chance in this game, Tyson, Melo, and JR will need to play 40 minutes. Since that’s the case, let’s just freaking start JR. Make them pay for doubling/tripling Melo right off the bat by also putting Novak in the lineup. Tyson, Melo, Novak, JR, and Baron should be the starting lineup. Tyson guards Bosh, Novak guards Haslem/Anthony, JR takes Wade, Melo takes Lebron. It’s not our best defensive lineup, but hey, we’ve got the DPOY on our team!

      If possible Bibby should come in with Landry to offset Landry’s complete inability to shoot.

    19. JK47:
      The idea that the Knicks are better without Amar’e is wishful thinking.His minutes are going to get scattered around to replacement-level players who have no business seeing the floor during a playoff game.

      Even as just about the biggest Amare doubter going it’s impossible for me to disagree with this. I think Amare’s usefulness is pretty low in the current roster contruction, but that’s with the full actual roster. With the ridiculously depleted roster they’re going with now, it’s hard to figure out a way to avoid giving a decent share of his minutes to d-league fodder. With the extra day off between games I think all the main guys minutes are going to need to take an extra bump up.

      On the topic of minutes it will be interesting to see if Spoelstra goes for the kill tonight or not. So far he has been very conservative with his main guys minutes (and he has had the luxury of doing that). I think he learned a lesson from last year’s playoffs where he rode Lebron especially extremely hard throughout and he fell apart in the finals. With Bosh probably making it back I’ll be interested to see if he dials up the minutes for Lebron and Wade as well to try to land the knockout punch or if he continues at the current pace.

    20. I would make one modification to your line up. It’s basically the same line-up we should have used if Amare was coming off the bench (as he should have) except that JR subs for Shump.
      So – Tyson, Melo, Fields, JR and Baron. Agreed with you that these guys are going to be logging major minutes anyway. I really don’t like Melo guarding Lebron – it wears him down over the course of the game and Lebron is going to get his anyway. So, I think Tyson guards Bosh, Melo guards Haslem, Fields guards Lebron, JR guards Wade and Baron takes Chalmers. We should also give more playing time to Jorts – I’ve been encouraged by what I’ve seen from him lately – he plays solid D, rebounds and helps to spread the floor. The big issue is going to be what we do when Melo is not in the game to score? Will have to think about that one. For some unintelligent reason, even when we had both Amare and Melo Woodson would take them both out of the game at the same time, which would typically begin JR’s chucking and the scoring droughts

      Frank:
      Any thoughts here on who should start tonight?My feeling is that in order to have a chance in this game, Tyson, Melo, and JR will need to play 40 minutes.Since that’s the case, let’s just freaking start JR.Make them pay for doubling/tripling Melo right off the bat by also putting Novak in the lineup.Tyson, Melo, Novak, JR, and Baron should be the starting lineup.Tyson guards Bosh, Novak guards Haslem/Anthony, JR takes Wade, Melo takes Lebron. It’s not our best defensive lineup, but hey, we’ve got the DPOY on our team!

      If possible Bibby should come in with Landry to offset Landry’s complete inability to shoot.

    21. Frank:
      Any thoughts here on who should start tonight?My feeling is that in order to have a chance in this game, Tyson, Melo, and JR will need to play 40 minutes.Since that’s the case, let’s just freaking start JR.Make them pay for doubling/tripling Melo right off the bat by also putting Novak in the lineup.Tyson, Melo, Novak, JR, and Baron should be the starting lineup.Tyson guards Bosh, Novak guards Haslem/Anthony, JR takes Wade, Melo takes Lebron. It’s not our best defensive lineup, but hey, we’ve got the DPOY on our team!

      If possible Bibby should come in with Landry to offset Landry’s complete inability to shoot.

      That’s what I’d go with as well. It’s absolutely critical that the Knicks get off to a good start tonight. MSG will be loud and ready to go, but also teetering on the edge of frustration. The crowd can be among the best in the NBA when the team is playing hard and well but it’s not always supportive when things are going poorly. If the team comes out of the box slowly tonight I fear things might get a bit ugly and it will spiral out of control.

      Only thing I’d consider is flipping Novak onto Bosh with Chandler as designated helper. They usually look to feature Wade early, and especially so when matched up with a relatively weak defender like JR. They got him the ball down low constantly in the 1Q in Game 2, so I’d try to stop that with Chandler and force them to adjust somewhat. Bosh was presumably up all night and has flown from Miami to NY to Miami to NY in the last 24 hours. Let them try to feature him offensively against Novak and see if he’s up to the task.

    22. That’s what really irks me…how totally unnecessary it was. We just lost game 2 on the road to an elite NBA team. Disappointment? Yes. Anger – what the hell? IF we had just gotten swept I would have understood more. If he had just missed an open layup at the buzzer with us down 1….maybe. If we were up 25 in the fourth quarter like Memphis and blew the lead…ok? Just ridiculous

      jon abbey:

      totally unnnecessary, and almost as bad as his self-inflicted injury this year. I’ve given him shit repeatedly for that since then, it’s not new.

      has anyone else in the entire league knocked themselves out of the playoffs in the last two seasons? Amare’s done it twice now.

    23. I would hate for Lin to risk injury by rushing back for this series when his skillset isn’t likely to swing the series in our favor, especially if he can’t play at 100%.

    24. TelegraphedPass:
      I would hate for Lin to risk injury by rushing back for this series when his skillset isn’t likely to swing the series in our favor, especially if he can’t play at 100%.

      My feeling is that if he is cleared to play by the orthopedic surgeons, he’s cleared to play. Trust me – those surgeons do NOT want to be on the hook if he reinjures it. They are more likely to be over-cautious than under-cautious. Question is whether he can be effective. If he still has soreness and can’t explode, he’ll be a physical liability out there, on top of the fact that he’ll be rusty and probably a little deer-in-the-headlights in his first playoff game against that ridiculous defense.

    25. jon abbey:
      the dunk Amare got hurt on in warmups last year was one where he touched both sides of the backboard after dunking, something no one would ever do in a game ever. totally unnnecessary, and almost as bad as his self-inflicted injury this year. I’ve given him shit repeatedly for that since then, it’s not new.

      has anyone else in the entire league knocked themselves out of the playoffs in the last two seasons? Amare’s done it twice now.

      I think I remember Hahn said it was part of Amare’s normal warmup routine. You know, end the layup line with something for the crowd. Half the league does something like that. I really find it hard to believe that Amare is some kind of egregious showoff.

    26. something for the crowd…except the game was in Boston, on the road

      Doug: I think I remember Hahn said it was part of Amare’s normal warmup routine. You know, end the layup line with something for the crowd. Half the league does something like that. I really find it hard to believe that Amare is some kind of egregious showoff.

    27. And if Melo has the nerve to smile after a game, you’ll be the first one to scream, “Why is he smiling?!? They LOST!! He should be MAD AS HELL!!” While I think that what he did the other night was monumentally dumb, I am happy that he was angry that they lost. It kind of shows that he gives a damn. By the way, a world class athlete touching both sides of the backboard after a dunk hardly qualifies as a mortal sin. I’m sorry, but I can’t work up any anger over last year’s injury.

      johnlocke: That’s what really irks me…how totally unnecessary it was. We just lost game 2 on the road to an elite NBA team. Disappointment? Yes. Anger – what the hell? IF we had just gotten swept I would have understood more. If he had just missed an open layup at the buzzer with us down 1….maybe. If we were up 25 in the fourth quarter like Memphis and blew the lead…ok? Just ridiculous

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