Knicks Morning News (Monday, Feb 06 2012)

  • [New York Daily News] Lin might be guy to man the point for Knicks (Mon, 06 Feb 2012 05:45:05 GMT)

    Jeremy Lin is no longer the anonymous point guard at the end of the Knicks bench. Those days are officially over. Lin became an overnight sensation on Saturday night at Madison Square Garden, a building in a city that appreciates sound point guard play.

  • [New York Daily News] For D’Antoni, Super pressure begins (Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:59:15 GMT)

    Welcome back from Indy. Welcome back to the Knicks’ season, where the latest crisis has been quelled, but there’s always another one looming on the not-too-distant horizon.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Garnett Leads Celtics to Fourth Straight Win (Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:24:05 GMT)

    Boston beat the Memphis Grizzlies, 98-80, as Kevin Garnett collected 24 points and 9 rebounds.

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    33 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (Monday, Feb 06 2012)”

    1. Terrible news for Amaré and family. I hope the media gives them their privacy to mourn.

      Can someone with a really solid handle on advanced stats and win shares provide a solid insight into what JR Smith would bring to our team? All Knicks fans hate chuckers, and virtually every Nuggets game I’ve ever seen, featured him with a green light – often making terrible, terrible decisions. The kinds that make “Melo-at-his-worst” haters cringe.

      I know any additional scoring will be welcome, and that he’d instantly become our most (read: only) viable threat from outside – but is he a system guy? Or is he an ISO, “I’m gonna be the guy,” guy? How does everyone see him helping?

    2. Man, terrible news on Amare’s brother. Seeing reader comments on internet stories really shakes my confidence in humanity. That someone would say something like “no seatbelt, no sympathy” is nauseating. You just hope the family never sees any of that type of thing.

    3. Here’s to hoping Jeremy Lin is serviceable as PG on a regular basis. I think we all saw the makings of true #1 playmaking abilities a few weeks ago…I dont think anyone envisioned 27, 7 and 5 in his first real minutes, but man…we needed it. As teams now prepare for him, im not expecting all-world #s, but at least some better, more heady play from the point…a first for the season. At the very least, i just hope it quells the embarrassing “just-wait-until-Baron-comes-back” chatter…you all should be ashamed of yourselves. Seems like JR Smith is a legit scorer, but i worry about his personality..doesn’t strike me as a swell “team-guy” I know you guys killed me for judging Melo and Dolan’s intellect a few weeks back, but he just doesn’t seem like a character guy to me. If its a min $2.5MM one-year type thing i guess its low-risk and boy do we need scoring so i get it. But if i’m right about who he is, shouldnt we have just pulled in Nate Robinson? He at least seems humbled right now and has the motivation of saving his career in mind. By the way, i predicted after the Bulls lost that I saw something and we were on our way to win 4 of the next five. We’re 1-1, so we still got a shot. Sucks that Amare will be out tonight (I assume)..he’s just starting to really come on, IMO.

    4. I thought this was a good user post on one of the Daily News stories about Lin. The only thing i dont agree with is that Davis was a “bad” signing (you all know i place no expectations in him, but it was low-risk for possible high-reward). The post is below:

      “Right now he’s just a kid who shows a lot of potential and promise, who’ll be facing the monumental task of learning how to run an NBA team on the fly, without the benefit of a training camp, during a season where there’s isn’t much time for practices and without the benefit of backing up an experienced point guard, who he can watch the way he handles his business against each particular team, before he himself comes off the bench. Which all means he’s got 3 strikes against him already. So people are going to have to realize and keep in perspective what this kid will be dealing with on those nights when he goes 1 for 10, scores 3 points, has just 2 assists, 6 turnovers and the guy he’s guarding lights him up for a career night. Because, no doubt about it, he’s going to have those nights. It’s all part and parcel of the learning process. And hopefully those same fans who were chanting his name, cheering for him and talking about him being our savior, will have enough patience and common sense to maintain realistic expectations, and continue to support him, on those nights when he’s not going to be looking like our savior. And we still need an experienced point guard. Baron Davis is not the answer and was just a bad signing, as was Bibby.”

    5. That’s just awful for STAT; terrible to hear about that affecting anybody.

      I think the good thing that I’ve seen about Lin is that he has a decent sense of balancing dishing and scoring when he drives. He’s a threat to make a layup, so he forces help D from the other team. The good news is that he isn’t bad at finding a man open once that happens.

      The thing I’m most excited about tonight: minutes for my man Jerome Jordan. He hasn’t looked bad at all in garbage minutes. I think it’s time to free him up a bit.

    6. JoMo:
      Terrible news for Amaré and family. I hope the media gives them their privacy to mourn.

      Can someone with a really solid handle on advanced stats and win shares provide a solid insight into what JR Smith would bring to our team? All Knicks fans hate chuckers, and virtually every Nuggets game I’ve ever seen, featured him with a green light – often making terrible, terrible decisions. The kinds that make “Melo-at-his-worst” haters cringe.

      I know any additional scoring will be welcome, and that he’d instantly become our most (read: only) viable threat from outside – but is he a system guy? Or is he an ISO, “I’m gonna be the guy,” guy? How does everyone see him helping?

      Let put is this way. If JR Smith, Melo, and Baron Davis are ever on the court together, it’s even money there will be a fist fight over shots. If not, it’s even money some of the regulars here are going to break their TV.

    7. Very sad for Amare. I know his brother had a troubled record, he’s a registered sexual offender, but this family has been through hell. Amare, however, has always shown himself to be special. I’m a huge admirer and will miss him tonight. Selfishly, I just hope he plays Wednesday, since I have tickets to see the Knicks in Washington, close.
      A valentine’s day gift for my wife, who adores Amare.

      On Lin, teams are going to try and pick a part his game, so expect him to have his troubles. But if he takes what they give him and enables Chandler and Melo, the floor is going to open up. The idea that we might have a guard competent in PnR play simply makes me giddy.
      As for racism, it’s silly. The kid is 6’3 and is quick as hell. Williams was at a disadvantages because Lin got briefed on Dern. Williams most certainly read virtually nothing on Lin. In professional ball, that is all it takes.
      But outplaying the second best point in the game, scouting report or not, is astounding.
      Tonight, just look for the trees.

      Btw, regardless of the Knicks guard problems, I still think losing Billups for Chandler was worth it. Chandler changes this team. He means defense. He means effort. He means intimidation. He means consistency. He means efficiency. He means so much, and for a long time. He plays within himself, and he makes everyone better out there.
      Guards can be found. Athletics 7’1 centers not so often. He is a rare talent, and by far is the greatest pick up in free agency for the Knicks since…I can’t recall. Oakley?

    8. Frank O.:

      Btw, regardless of the Knicks guard problems, I still think losing Billups for Chandler was worth it. Chandler changes this team. He means defense. He means effort. He means intimidation. He means consistency. He means efficiency. He means so much, and for a long time. He plays within himself, and he makes everyone better out there.
      Guards can be found. Athletics 7’1 centers not so often. He is a rare talent, and by far is the greatest pick up in free agency for the Knicks since…I can’t recall. Oakley?

      Totally agree – TC has very quickly become my favorite Knicks since probably the Starks/Mason/Oak/Ewing team (not that there was a lot of competition in the 10-15 years since). He’s a winner, he cares, and he’s GOOD.

    9. Frank O.:
      [Chandler] is a rare talent, and by far is the greatest pick up in free agency for the Knicks since…I can’t recall. Oakley?

      Not Oak. He came via trade.

      It’s an interesting question, though: who is the greatest Free Agent signing in Knicks history? Because they have never had much cap space, the choices are quite few (in the modern era, at least).
      Basically, the choices are:

      Chandler
      Amar’e
      Houston
      Childs

      And then the mid-level guys:

      Jeffries
      James
      Weatherspoon

      That’s all that come to mind. There must be others, though, no?

    10. Sure is

      Frank O.: Btw, regardless of the Knicks guard problems, I still think losing Billups for Chandler was worth it.

      Quiet around here today! Couldn’t agree more. 7-footers do not grow on trees. All we need is competent guard play. Everyone keeps mentioning Steve Nash as it relates to whats needed for MDA’s system, not pointing out enough just how well it ran with Felton.

    11. Bernard King was technically a free agent signing. So I guess I’d go with King. But yeah, I honestly would put Chandler second at this point. Houston or Amar’e could be #3.

    12. Brian Cronin:
      Bernard King was technically a free agent signing. So I guess I’d go with King.But yeah, I honestly would put Chandler second at this point.Houston or Amar’e could be #3.

      BBR says King was acquired in a trade for Michael Ray Richardson and a draft pick. Is that wrong? (a few years before my time:)

    13. Brian Cronin: Bernard King was technically a free agent signing. So I guess I’d go with King. But yeah, I honestly would put Chandler second at this point. Houston or Amar’e could be #3.

      I think you have to give Amare at least #2. When you take into account the context of how horribly bad the last 10 years have been (Knicks have been the embarrassment of all sport) then losing on Lebron…you could make the argument that Amare is #1 if you believe that without the legitimacy he provided last year, neither Melo or Chandler sign. The Melo experiment has yet to play itself out so its tough to judge now…but Amare has got to be #1 or #2 followed by either Houston or King…i’d lean towards Houston (King’s injuries killed what could have been). Houston got us to the finals before his contract became firmly and irrevocably lodged in the team’s collective rectum.

    14. The way the NBA free agent system worked back then was that you were pretty much forced to trade players for free agents when you signed them. The set-up is similar to how today’s sign and trades work. So I think that counts as a free agent signing, right?

    15. THCJ – get your popcorn ready. Faried is starting for Denver tonight! My prediction — 22 minutes, 6 points 10 rebounds, 2 blocks.

    16. Brian Cronin:
      The way the NBA free agent system worked back then was that you were pretty much forced to trade players for free agents when you signed them. The set-up is similar to how today’s sign and trades work. So I think that counts as a free agent signing, right?

      I get it. Like how Chandler was “traded” for Andy Rautins, and Amar’e was “traded” for a 2nd round draft pick, right.

      Okay, so King is on the list.

      Ray Felton I guess should be on the list, too, even though he only played 50 games as a Knick. There must have been some other mid-level exception guy that I’m missing, too. (And the minimum exception guys like Mike Bibby and Baron Davis too, but that lit could get very long and even more unimpressive…)

    17. Houston’s 1st contract was a pretty good deal, it got bad when he opted out after the 5th year and re-signed for 100 million. I believe the initial contract was a 7yr-56 mil deal with an apparent player opt-out after 5 years. I found an article that said Houston had 2 yrs and 21.5 mil left when he opted out. BBR has his money per year gradually increasing over the 5 years.

      So again I say the initial contract for Houston was pretty good and significant.

    18. Frank O.: since I have tickets to see the Knicks in Washington

      There is a Groupon deal for that game. I know this season has been bad for us, but life as a Wizards fan must been horrible. Wizards – the worst team name in sports.

    19. I imagine we’ll get a Jeffries/Balkman rotation at the 4 tonight, with Jeffries likely playing close to 40 minutes. Perhaps some Melo there, as well, with a small-ball lineup with Fields at the 3, Shump at the 2 and Lin at the 1? Or will Jordan actually get some playing time, as well?

      Tonight is going to be a really tough match-up, with Utah’s bigs being so good and the Knicks not having Amar’e.

      Also, another Baron Davis setback. Great.

    20. knicks traded bill cartright for Oakley. Twin towers wasn’t working. Good move for both teams. Cartright helped the Bulls get over the hump. Knicks would have won at least one championship if not for MJ.

    21. Brian Cronin:
      I imagine we’ll get a Jeffries/Balkman rotation at the 4 tonight, with Jeffries likely playing close to 40 minutes. Perhaps some Melo there, as well, with a small-ball lineup with Fields at the 3, Shump at the 2 and Lin at the 1? Or will Jordan actually get some playing time, as well?

      That’s the question – I think JJ2 (or JJ3 if you count Jerome James — who definitely goes down as the WORST FA signing in Nix history. [Well, either him or Eddy Curry]) gets some burn. MD’A just don’t dig Humpty.

      As much as MD’A loves small-ball, I can’t see him doing it against Utah. Subjecting Melo and his banged-up body to the likes of Millsap et al. in the low post is like asking for another injury.

    22. You’d like to see D’Antoni realize that the whole “Jeremy Lin playing well” thing might very well be an indication that if a player plays well in the minutes given, they should be given a shot at more minutes, in which case Jordan would get some real burn.

    23. FWIW according to an old NBA register I have King was signed as a veteran free agent, GS matched the offer and the Knicks traded Richardson for him.

    24. FWIW according to an old NBA register I have King was signed as a veteran free agent, GS matched the offer and the Knicks traded Richardson for him.

      Right, that’s how free agency worked back then. I’m sure I have a few Unsung Knick Histories on the subject.

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