Knicks Morning News (2022.07.01)

  • RJ Barrett, Knicks To Get Major Contract Extension Done? – NBA Analysis Network
    [nbaanalysis.net] — Friday, July 1, 2022 2:34:45 AM

    RJ Barrett, Knicks To Get Major Contract Extension Done?  NBA Analysis Network

  • NBA Offseason 2022: June 30 roundup – NBA.com
    [www.nba.com] — Friday, July 1, 2022 2:03:43 AM

    NBA Offseason 2022: June 30 roundup  NBA.com

  • Evaluating Jalen Brunson, Isaiah Hartenstein deals, what’s next for the Knicks | SportsNite – Yahoo Sports
    [sports.yahoo.com] — Friday, July 1, 2022 12:31:00 AM

    Evaluating Jalen Brunson, Isaiah Hartenstein deals, what’s next for the Knicks | SportsNite  Yahoo Sports

  • 2022 NBA free agency rumors: Live updates as Kevin Durant demands trade; Jalen Brunson to Knicks – CBS Sports
    [www.cbssports.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 11:53:00 PM

    2022 NBA free agency rumors: Live updates as Kevin Durant demands trade; Jalen Brunson to Knicks  CBS Sports

  • Knicks Ex Kevin Knox Gets New Payday From New Team – Yardbarker
    [www.yardbarker.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 11:31:23 PM

    Knicks Ex Kevin Knox Gets New Payday From New Team  Yardbarker

  • Knicks, Nets active in wild first day of NBA free agency – News 12 Long Island
    [longisland.news12.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 10:35:44 PM

    Knicks, Nets active in wild first day of NBA free agency  News 12 Long Island

  • Clippers re-signing Nicolas Batum and Amir Coffey, losing Isaiah Hartenstein to Knicks – Yahoo Sports
    [sports.yahoo.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 10:06:00 PM

    Clippers re-signing Nicolas Batum and Amir Coffey, losing Isaiah Hartenstein to Knicks  Yahoo Sports

  • Jalen Brunson agrees to contract with New York Knicks – Daily Record
    [www.dailyrecord.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 10:05:26 PM

    Jalen Brunson agrees to contract with New York Knicks  Daily Record

  • Knicks agree to sign center Isaiah Hartenstein: source – St. Paul Pioneer Press
    [www.twincities.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 8:59:59 PM

    Knicks agree to sign center Isaiah Hartenstein: source  St. Paul Pioneer Press

  • Jalen Brunson, Isaiah Hartenstein and what’s next for the Knicks in free agency | The Putback with Ian Begley – Yahoo Sports
    [sports.yahoo.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 8:35:00 PM

    Jalen Brunson, Isaiah Hartenstein and what’s next for the Knicks in free agency | The Putback with Ian Begley  Yahoo Sports

  • Kemba Walker, Pistons Reportedly Finalizing Contract Buyout After Knicks Trade – Bleacher Report
    [bleacherreport.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 8:16:31 PM

    Kemba Walker, Pistons Reportedly Finalizing Contract Buyout After Knicks Trade  Bleacher Report

  • Knicks, Isaiah Hartenstein Agree To Two-Year Deal – hoopsrumors.com
    [www.hoopsrumors.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 7:05:00 PM

    Knicks, Isaiah Hartenstein Agree To Two-Year Deal  hoopsrumors.com

  • NBA free agency tracker: Top players available – The Washington Post
    [www.washingtonpost.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 6:49:00 PM

    NBA free agency tracker: Top players available  The Washington Post

  • Knicks sign center Isaiah Hartenstein to a 2-year deal – Posting and Toasting
    [www.postingandtoasting.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 6:42:13 PM

    Knicks sign center Isaiah Hartenstein to a 2-year deal  Posting and ToastingKnicks add center Isaiah Hartenstein to NBA free agency haul  New York Post Knicks rumors: New York joins chase for Isaiah Hartenstein even with Mitchell Robinson poised to return  ClutchPointsMitchell Robinson free agency update points towards him re-signing with Knicks  Daily KnicksReport: Isaiah Hartenstein Agrees to Sign with Knicks on Guaranteed Deal  Sports IllustratedView Full Coverage on Google News

  • Ian Begley reacts to Knicks agreeing to a four-year deal with Jalen Brunson | NBA Insider – Yahoo Sports
    [sports.yahoo.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 6:17:48 PM

    Ian Begley reacts to Knicks agreeing to a four-year deal with Jalen Brunson | NBA Insider  Yahoo Sports

  • Haynes sources: Jalen Brunson to sign with Knicks – Yahoo Sports
    [sports.yahoo.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 6:11:23 PM

    Haynes sources: Jalen Brunson to sign with Knicks  Yahoo Sports

  • Breaking down Detroit Pistons trade with New York Knicks – Detroit Sports Nation
    [detroitsportsnation.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 6:01:26 PM

    Breaking down Detroit Pistons trade with New York Knicks  Detroit Sports Nation

  • Agents – New York Knicks, Jalen Brunson agree to 4-year, $104M deal – ESPN
    [www.espn.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 6:01:02 PM

    Agents – New York Knicks, Jalen Brunson agree to 4-year, $104M deal  ESPNJalen Brunson To Sign Four-Year Contract With Knicks  hoopsrumors.com3 Instant Reactions After Jalen Brunson’s 4-Year, $104M Contract With Knicks  Bleacher ReportNBA free agency: Jalen Brunson to sign with Knicks for four-year, $110 million contract, per report  CBS SportsIn praise of the Knicks’ pursuit of Jalen Brunson  Posting and ToastingView Full Coverage on Google News

  • Grimes, Sims, McBride to star in Knicks Summer League squad – Empire Sports Media
    [empiresportsmedia.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 5:23:46 PM

    Grimes, Sims, McBride to star in Knicks Summer League squad  Empire Sports Media

  • Jalen Brunson to sign four-year, $110 million deal with Knicks, Mavericks never got to make an offer – Hoops Hype
    [hoopshype.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 5:10:59 PM

    Jalen Brunson to sign four-year, $110 million deal with Knicks, Mavericks never got to make an offer  Hoops Hype

  • Here’s what a prospective Knicks trade for superstar Kevin Durant could look like – Daily Knicks
    [dailyknicks.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 4:36:00 PM

    Here’s what a prospective Knicks trade for superstar Kevin Durant could look like  Daily Knicks

  • Why is Jalen Brunson Taking Meetings with Dallas Mavericks, New York Knicks, Miami Heat? – WQAD Moline
    [www.wqad.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 1:47:16 PM

    Why is Jalen Brunson Taking Meetings with Dallas Mavericks, New York Knicks, Miami Heat?  WQAD Moline

  • Kemba Walker To Receive Buyout; Potential Landing Spots – NBA Analysis Network
    [nbaanalysis.net] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 11:58:35 AM

    Kemba Walker To Receive Buyout; Potential Landing Spots  NBA Analysis Network

  • Should the Knicks bring in free agent Mo Bamba as a backup center? – Posting and Toasting
    [www.postingandtoasting.com] — Thursday, June 30, 2022 9:00:00 AM

    Should the Knicks bring in free agent Mo Bamba as a backup center?  Posting and Toasting

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    43 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2022.07.01)”

    1. Pretty good day to be a Knicks fan…

      I’m not sure it’s over, we’ll get the contract’s details, and maybe more moves, after the moratorium.

      Random, but somehow understandable, rumors:

      There are 27 teams with varying degrees of chances in the KD’s sweepstakes, the only two totally out of it are Golden State and the Knicks.

      The Mavs are livid with the Knicks and accepting a sign and trade they negate their chances to call the League with tampering charges, so a S&T is unlikely.

    2. The Mavs should be mad at themselves for not signing Brunson when they had the chance. Why are they mad at the Knicks trying to sign an actual free agent? It’s what teams do.

    3. someone said it yesterday but after watching brunson highlight reels… we havent had a guard like this in forever… he hits so many twos though, i feel like the blog is gonna be mad at him…

    4. I’m not saying they’re right, just reporting the rumors.
      They made an incredible mistake not signing him before the last trade deadline.

      But I wonder how many times a team hired the father of a player three weeks before free agency and at the same time the son of the team’s GM is the agent of the player.

      :-)

    5. Shams:

      New Orleans Pelicans star Zion Williamson is nearing a five-year rookie max contract extension worth up to $231 million, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The commitment will take Williamson’s new deal through the 2027-28 season.

    6. Yesterday was a good day, but my enthusiasm is muted unless Randle is on his way out the door soon. The ceiling on this team is low either way, but the version without Julius will be so much more entertaining to watch.

    7. I understand what you mean, and I believe it that they are pissed. I just think it’s mostly sour grapes on their part.

    8. All the more reason to lock him up, Max. There were sharks in the water.

      On the Zion bit. Once the Pelis got CJ and broke out and made the playoffs he had to come back. That hurt our chances.

    9. I know Randle moped a lot last year. I’m not in a rush to trade him though. I think our starting unit with him in it has a chance to develop an identity as a physical, aggressive line up that wears down the defense. That’s not a bad place to be.

    10. I think the tampering rules are kind of dumb. Like I get it when it comes to the draft and players not even in the league yet. But these are grown men and they’re free agents. They should be allowed to play for whoever.

      And what are the Knicks going to be accused of tampering anytime Leon rose has a former connection with the player?

      And hiring Brunson’s dad. I mean yeah I’m sure they did that with the intention of getting jalen but so what? His dad was a former knick! Jalen used to run around MSG as a kid. His dad is also an established assistant coach and not only that but worked on thibs staff previously.

      I just don’t get why we could credibly be accused of tampering and if Cuban is going to not do a sign and trade that makes his position worse just to spite us he is an idiot. They’re the ones that low balled jalen. They could have had him for half this money only a few months ago.

    11. Cuban is an idiot who loves to posture, its no surprise. Remember when they were overjoyed and jumping up and down mocking the Knicks for taking Ntilikina so they could get DSJ? All that so they could dump DSJ to us, eventually sign Ntilikina, then talk all that shit about how Porzingis was going to be amazing… just to dump him off not even 2 seasons after that. They certainly dropped the ball not extending Brunson and are trying to divert attention from it.

    12. “Alan
      July 1, 2022 at 8:52 am
      Yesterday was a good day, but my enthusiasm is muted unless Randle is on his way out the door soon. The ceiling on this team is low either way, but the version without Julius will be so much more entertaining to watch.”

      I was pretty entertained by 2020-21 Julius. While I don’t expect for him to get all the way back to that level, Brunson will definitely curb some of Randle’s worst instincts. I know folks are pissed at how selfish and petulant he was last year (and in 2019-20 for the record) but concluding that he’s irredeemable at this point seems pretty harsh. Especially since he’s a notoriously hard worker during the offseason and he got beaten up both in the press and at MSG, and I understand how much that must have hurt to try to explain that to his son.

      So while I think it’s probably best for all involved for him to move on/be moved on, if he’s here on opening day I will give him every benefit of the doubt until he reverts back to the chucking, clanking, disengaged on D turnover machine he was last year. If that happens, I’m right there with you. But I still believe that in the proper role (30mpg 25%ish usage combo big who attacks the rim and puts up 20-10-5 on .580+ TS%) he can be a force that actually complements Brunson very well.

    13. Well I’m gonna feel a lot better about Barrett’s contract in light of Zion getting the max for 1 season of play in 3yrs… hopefully.

    14. Why would the Mavs walk away from getting something for Brunson? Even if they can prove the tampering, the Knicks would lose a 2nd rounder, like Bucks, Heat and Bulls in 2021. Is that worth it?

    15. I’d rather cheer for a roster made up entirely of pouty, turnover machine Julius Randles than for one which includes a single Miles Bridges

    16. ess-dog: Basically, they have no one to blame but themselves for Brunson leaving.

      This bit of the linked article perfectly sums it up.

      The entire situation makes zero sense. It’s baffling, it’s embarrassing, and it makes the Mavericks look like fools caught with their pants down … again.

    17. “cybersoze
      July 1, 2022 at 9:29 am
      ess-dog: Basically, they have no one to blame but themselves for Brunson leaving.

      This bit of the linked article perfectly sums it up.

      The entire situation makes zero sense. It’s baffling, it’s embarrassing, and it makes the Mavericks look like fools caught with their pants down … again.”

      Yeah, but somehow that asshole Cuban always figures out how to recover from these blunders.

    18. I wonder if we’ll do anything else but sign Mitch. NBA teams seem to keep weird hours, nothing happening this morning. Or maybe Woj just woke up.

    19. By the way – I am skeptical that Durant actually gets traded. Just because he wants out doesn’t mean he gets out. Like Ramona Shelburne tweeted, kobe did this once, ended up staying and winning more championships. Just hard to imagine the Nets could get appropriate value. Seems more likely to me that the Nets will say they tried but couldn’t find a good trade, let’s just see how this goes etc

    20. It was so crazy pre-draft, during the draft, and pre-FA that the actual offseason is anticlimactic. Could change in a hurry if Anyton or KD start getting shuffled.

    21. “DRed
      July 1, 2022 at 9:52 am
      I wonder if we’ll do anything else but sign Mitch. NBA teams seem to keep weird hours, nothing happening this morning. Or maybe Woj just woke up.”

      I think some stuff has to wait until the moratorium period ends…

    22. Frank, are you trying to put me to sleep? That guy in the Brunson video, i’m going to bookmark it for nights when i can’t sleep. LOL

    23. I mentioned reading “How to Be Perfect” by Mike Shur and he has a chapter in there that deals with stuff like rooting for players like Miles Bridges. He touched on it on The Good Place but he really deep dives into it.

      I can’t summarize it as well as he does, but basically every single person who wants to live a more moral life has to draw a line in the sand somewhere with what they will tolerate and what they won’t. But the second you draw that line at some point you will contradict yourself and be a hypocrite because humans are imperfect and contradictory. So you might say “I will never listen to R. Kelly” but then turn around and rewatch Annie Hall because you loved Woodie Allen so much. Yeah, that makes you kind of a hyporcrite but the important thing is having that line in the sand drawn in the first place, being aware of your own hypocrisy and trying to do better. Its the trying to do better and trying to live up to your own ideals that is important. And also, admitting when you’re wrong about something and apologizing for it especially if it hurts someone.

      But the worst kind of person or tendency is “whataboutism” where you call people out for their hypocrisies because at the end of the day, the world is so interconnected and complicated that it is impossible to live a completely morally clean life. So “oh you won’t root for Miles Turner but your Nike’s were made in sweatshops!” is a completely unhelpful tendency and people who do that are the worst because they aren’t establishing a moral line in the sand for themselves. They’re just pointing out the shortcomings of other people. And just because one thing is horrible doesn’t mean people should ignore other horrible things.

      So yeah, we should not sign Miles Turner. That doesn’t mean we’re awful people for tolerating Derrick Rose on our team or rooting for a a team owned by James Dolan.

    24. Someone tried adding some extra functionality. Somebody even got a pic posted! Hopefully just working out the kinks before a new rollout.

      I saw the new interface for a split second and it looked nice!

    25. Please tell me Brunson is not too short, too slow, and too heavy, right? He’s not ~ Ray Felton, right? This is going to work, right? I’m (always) Team Optimist, but even the highlights look sort of … labored?

    26. Great news! I like the kid and the curse was way overdue, it’s good that it finally ended.

    27. Yes! Happy to have Mitch back, and a sincere +1 for Michael Schur’s book that Swift mentions above. A lovely read.

    28. Obviously getting Brunson was a great (and the price I think is actually pretty reasonable). But Hartenstein is an underrated move. My friend who is a Clippers fan said we’re going to love him.

      I like both of these moves for 2 reasons. First, obviously we needed a point guard and we got one, hopefully a pretty good one. But we also needed a different look at the center position. Mitch, Sims and Noel (when healthy) could basically all lacked outside shooting ability and passing ability. Hart has both of those. This will give us another look and also help us stretch the floor a bit more (another issue last year).

      But also, by getting rid of Noel, Burks and Kemba and replacing them with Brunson and Hart, not only did we improve in some areas that needed improvement, but we also got significantly younger. Brunson is 25 (26?), Hart is 24. Certainly not rookie contract players but definitely guys who could be here for 4 or 5 years and still be at or near their peak.

      I’m also just glad to see a little faith restored in this FO by posters. The 20-21 season was a great surprise, probably a bit fluky but also probably set ourselves up for way too high expectations last year. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t important or that things were just moving backwards after a regression. Progress is not always strictly a straight line going up. You can take steps forward and steps back along the road of progress.

    29. Apprentice, i’m pretty sure Ray Felton never had a line like this in the playoffs, while being the #2 on a conference finals team.

      MP 35.0, FG 8.1-17.3 (46.6%), 3P 1.4-4.2 (34.7%), FT 4.0-5.0 (80%), TRB 4.6, AST 3.7, STL 0.8, TOV 1.1, PTS 21.6

    30. Please tell me Brunson is not too short, too slow, and too heavy, right? He’s not ~ Ray Felton, right? This is going to work, right? I’m (always) Team Optimist, but even the highlights look sort of … labored?

      He is, indeed, too short (not too slow or too heavy). So he’ll be burned by the many taller, good mid-range shooters with turnarounds (DeMar is licking his chops…). But the expectation is that he brings so many other good things, including unlocking better play from others, that it will more than make up for that.

      I’d say having Mitch locked up now will help, but that’s really more for blow-by’s, and it seems Brunson is a hard-nosed defender that doesn’t get traffic-coned much (are your ears burning, Evan…?).

    31. Technically the Charlie Ward curse applies only to first rounders, but Mitch has broken it in spirit. Very happy to have him back and very happy for him.

    32. Happy for Mitch! Happier for us that our center rotation is going to cost us only $20 million or so a year.

      The curse is over! Welcome back Mitch and congrats on the life changing contract. Go celebrate. But then tomorrow…please work on those free throws!

    33. I want to love Brunson. And, Cyber, I do respect his playoff run. I just hope it’s sustainable.

      Also, I’m in Hamburg at the moment where the signing of Herr Hartenstein has made us some new Knicks fans — and earned me some free beers ;-)

    34. The Mavs have no case because nepotism isn’t tampering.

      That said I’m not sure how much Brunson mover the needle. That will largely depend on Randle.

    35. I’m not against the Brunson signing per se, but I’ve been a bit out of the loop since even before the pandemic, but is ~26mill/year really his market value? I know salaries have jumped significantly in the last several years, but I have no frame of reference anymore. I’m reading new deals like Jokic getting ~$50+ mill/yr, but is the the $25mill range supposed to be for All-Stars or just a solid starter? From what I’ve seen of Brunson, he’s still primarily a scorer, so where’s he slotting into the lineup? Is he really gonna be the new PG?

    36. Brunson is easy to underestimate because of his appearance. But he’s 25 years old and his play during the last two years is already better than any year in Felton’s career. He’s not CP3 or Dame, but he can be every bit as good as Lowry, FVV or other short small wingspan PGs who think the game on a high level and have enough skill to make teams pay for underestimating him. He’s really, really good and has room to get even better if he can be a more consistent 3-pt shooter. I think he has been hurt more than helped by Doncic and he’s gonna make believers out of Knicks fans in very short order as he evolves into the unquestioned leader of the team. And there is no doubt in my mind that he will be just that, and if Julius doesn’t go along with it, he will be dumped.

    37. If your on Knicks twitter I’m sure you would’ve saw the infographic of Jalen averaging 21 and 7(2.1 TO’s!) on a 57% TS% in 20 games without Luka. Small sample size but the narrative that he only played well off Luka is obviously false.

      Happy to see Mitch back. Even with his flaws hes a quality center and Hartenstein/Sims can give us different looks/playstyles that Mitch doesnt. Also hope a fully healthy offseason can help stamina wise with him.

    38. “But the worst kind of person or tendency is “whataboutism” where you call people out for their hypocrisies because at the end of the day”

      There is nothing wrong with calling out people for their hypocrisies. If anything, it needs to happen more often. “Whataboutism” isn’t pointing out hypocrisy. It’s a distraction. When someone says “A is bad,” responding with “But what about B, huh?” is “whataboutism.” It’s bringing up something unrelated to the initial point.

      But hypocrisy should ALWAYS be pointed out. Like how the people who lost their minds about Donald Trump saying ” grab ’em by the p***y” were the same people giving adulterer, accused rapist, and sexual-exploiter-of-an-intern-young-enough-to-be-his-daughter Bill Clinton standing ovations at every Democratic National Convention for the last 20 years. Or the people losing their minds about “kids in cages” at the border under Donald Trump not giving a peep about the chaos at the border under Biden.

      That we aren’t perfect isn’t an excuse for being unfair or holding other people to standards you’d never live by yourself.

      Mike

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