Knicks Morning News (2022.05.25)

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    1. Castigating the Republican Party after a mass shooting has proven to be as effective as “thoughts & prayers.” Mind you, I know this is all their fault. But the NRA has established itself as inevitable as death & taxes.

      I’m not going to regurgitate that stupid quote about the definition of insanity but we really have to choose to do something else. Get creative, like all those motherfuckers have been doing with abortion for 40 years. When we had control of everything, we prioritized passing a health care bill. Barack Obama, bless his heart, still held on to the ideal of one America and that we should learn to respect the rights of law-abiding gun owners.

      Enough of that.

      Polls don’t mean shit if they’re not backed up in the voting booth. If the poll numbers are true, then make every election in the country about this and nothing else. Leave the polarizing socialist agenda behind (the one that, you know, is led by the biggest gun supporter on the Left). No one on the Republican Party has been allowed to run if they weren’t anti-abortion for 50 fucking years. They even made Trump (who probably paid for 50 abortions himself) tow the company line. And we’re letting motherfucking gun-toting Bernie Sanders dominate our agenda!? Hang & quarter him (metaphorically, of course) TODAY as a sign to every dem in the country that is your top priority now. No more videos of democratic senate candidates in Kentucky shooting guns.

      To be clear: this is 100% their fault. But I’m as tired of castigating the NRA as I am of hearing thoughts and prayers. It makes us feel better but it accomplishes nothing. Statistics indicate that it actually makes their position stronger every time we do it.

      They are so good defending their position because we keep attempting the same charge. It’s like a well-entrenched German gunner mowing down straight-running American soldiers on Omaha Beach. Can we maybe try a zag pattern one of these times?

    2. Honestly, if we want to really change this country we need people on the left to move out of the coasts and blue states and into the red and purple ones. Joe Biden won California by almost 2 million votes. A million democrats could move out of California and the Dems would still win that state easily. Yet Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming have a combined population that is less than California but have 12 Republican senators to California’s 2. Dems have to have a massive voter turnout to win the presidency and congress. Republicans just have to get their base riled up. They have a huge land advantage yet if you look at those red states where Republicans win 60 plus percent of the vote, the actual number of people voting is way less than in CA, NY, Illinois…even small blue states like Mass are super densely populated.

      Dems should probably figure out a way to talk to rural voters because even chipping away 10 percent of that support would make a huge difference but really, liberals need to move out of NYC, LA, San Fran, and Chicago and move to red states. I know this is a tall ask of people but people were not nearly as siloed in blue and red states 40 years ago as they are today and the changing demographics alone won’t save dems, especially when some non-white voters like hispanic-americans and asian-americans tend to be more socially conservative and religious than upper class white liberals.

      This couldn’t happen overnight. But Republicans started planning this back when Roe v. Wade became law and Nixon resigned. They’ve had the long view for 50 years while Dems were just worrying about the next battle.

    3. Honestly, if we want to really change this country we need people on the left to move out of the coasts and blue states and into the red and purple ones.

      Why so our kids can get shot? No thank you.

    4. The NRA sucks ass, obviously, and our gun policies are insane, obviously.

      That said, a big component of this is the instinct or inclination to use the gun. And to figure that one out, we have to turn to culture. America has always been a uniquely alienating and atomizing place. These mass shooters are typically kids — 17 to 20. Columbine was in 1998, so we’re now in the second generation of this. We aren’t acculturating these kids properly. The how and why are very challenging, but that’s pretty clearly what’s going on. These kids are responding to cultural stimuli. Their brains aren’t even fully developed. All kids act out, always have. What’s changed to turn that acting out into mass murder? What used to govern and stop impulses like that and is clearly no longer doing so? Those are the answers we need.

      When we have a (essentially) new historical phenomenon, typically we look to what’s fundamentally changed in the culture. Columbine wasn’t an immediate response, so we’d probably have to go back maybe 3-4 years. That takes us to 1994-95ish. What changed in America then? Well, one answer is clearly the massive increase in cheap computing power, which engendered the internet which engendered the online lifestyle which engendered all manner of ideas hitting young brains with way more frequency than had ever happened before.(*) Movies and music and TV shows have always been blamed for these kind of things, but I’m hard-pressed not to conclude that the internet really was a massive cultural game changer. Gun culture itself accelerated dramatically once life went online. (America’s gun culture has always been a bit weird and eccentric, it’s now become insane.)(**) It’s too complicated a subject for a quick post, but that has to be a big part of the answer. Specious correlation or direct causation or somewhere in-between, take your pick, but with life going online came multiple generations of teenage mass murderers, including of schoolkids.

      (*) And porn, which shouldn’t be overlooked.

      (**) In an almost perfect summary of 2022 online life, the guy was sending unwanted pictures of himself to a woman he didn’t really even know, trying to online “impress” her, posing with his guns.

    5. Why so our kids can get shot?

      The grocery store shooting happened in NY, a blue state. Sandy Hook is in Connecticut.

      You’re mentality is part of the problem. The idea that life in a not super blue state is somehow unbearable and awful. It isn’t. I live in freaking Omaha, Nebraska now after living in NYC and LA for 20 years. Nebraska is super red but Omaha and Lincoln are chill. There’s diversity, art, good food here. My vote now matters way more than it did when I lived in NYC or LA.

    6. E – America is a uniquely violent place. It always has been. This kind of stuff is in our national character. But now people have access to body armor and AR-15s.

    7. For the record, Swifty, everything you assumed about my mentality was wrong. I unabashedly love red states and the people who live in them; I just hate the policies they’re imposing. Had I known you were in Omaha, I would have hit you up last time I went there to visit a friend. Brother Sebastian’s is my jam.

      The grocery store shooting happened in NY, a blue state. Sandy Hook is in Connecticut.

      This is exactly my point. We need to be going after *our* politicians, not theirs. You can buy kevlar suits and AR-15s in New York state. Governor Hochul is focused on putting tracers on guns. That’s not even a half measure, it’s a micro measure. I want her to be focused on getting the guns gone like Mayor Bloomberg was. Anyone ever see an AR-15 for sale in Brooklyn? Me neither.

      My state senator is Brad Hoylman and you best believe he and his office have heard from me on this. There’s a willingness on the part of some to introduce laws that would limit the right to bear arms to a “well-regulated militia”. But it’s not Republicans who push back, it’s the upstate Democrats who are fighting to protect assault rifles.

      That is where we need to take the fight. Not to Mitch McConnell.

    8. Hubert: We need to be going after *our* politicians, not theirs

      Sadly, the forthcoming ruling by the U.S. Star Chamber will soon render all such efforts moot.

    9. Yes but the entire Republican party is against gun reform legislation of any kind. And there are a whole host of other issues they completely oppose despite the majority of the country being into it.

      I didn’t mean to assume your mentality but you literally said “why, so my kids can get shot” which implied to me at least that you think these things are more likely to happen in red states. My apologies for misinterpreting that. This shit has me raw because I’m so frustrated about it. Go after your politicians too. I called mine this morning. We need them ALL to know we’re sick of this shit.

    10. I would argue we need to take the fight to all of the politicians of both parties. But I believe Republicans being completely on the hook to the NRA is holding a lot of this stuff back.

      Dems need to be united on this. You care so much about babies? Pass gun reform so kids don’t get shot in school.

    11. Good, fact-filled column by Kristoff today in the Times for those who want facts and figures.

      E, while I agree with you that the internet hones and focuses nutballs and provides them with encouragement for really bad ideas, the simple fact, highly corroborated with my own experiences as a kid and as an adult, here and overseas in countries filled with postwar weaponry, is give a kid a gun and he’s going to want to use it. True for me, too, and I’m quite non-violent. But a gun is hugely, if dementedly, empowering. I sort of get gun nuts, it’s like crack almost. Who wouldn’t want to feel bullet-proof? (The irony of course runs deep.)

      I’m no spring chicken, and I’d say there were at least three kids in my high school who easily could have shot up the school (one died in a ‘mysterious’ hunting accident senior year, shot and left in the woods). So there are definitely culture shifts that make it more easy (including the now almost trite copycat aspect), but I really don’t believe the basic symptom hasn’t always been with us. Some of us.

    12. I understand, Swifty. My comment left me open to misunderstanding. I, too, am feeling raw.

      I have given up on the idea of national reform, though, and I think we all should, too. The way forward is in the courts. DC v Heller should be the Roe v Wade of the Democratic party. It’s an assailable ruling (lower courts have been doing just that for a while). But we must be more aggressive.

      When a republican state legislature wants to attack roe, for example, they forcefully fight for the right of a 6 week old embryo. When a democratic state legislature fights for gun control, they meekly argue for a ban on bump stocks.

      And again, motherfucking gun toting Bernie fucking Sanders is synonymous with the Democratic agenda. Purge him and his 2nd Amendment cronies NOW. There should be no place for anyone in the party who defends gun rights.

    13. People in rural areas like guns. People under 30 don’t. Hopefully things will change.

    14. Is Bernie Sanders really the face of anything at all? He had his moment in 2016, did far worse in 2020, and is a million years old. The far left coalition of the Democratic Party is a very small rump with like five House members in it.

      Then you try to do anything at all, and you’re stymied by Joe Manchin, who is by a mile the second most powerful and prominent Democrat after Biden. I am far from a Bernie fan but I don’t see how he’s the “face” of anything. He’s a harmless old coot with zero power who occasionally mutters something from the sidelines.

    15. swiftandabundant: You’re mentality is part of the problem. The idea that life in a not super blue state is somehow unbearable and awful. It isn’t. I live in freaking Omaha, Nebraska now after living in NYC and LA for 20 years. Nebraska is super red but Omaha and Lincoln are chill. There’s diversity, art, good food here. My vote now matters way more than it did when I lived in NYC or LA.

      Are you a woman who could potentially need an abortion? Are you a gay person who has to worry about your state treating you as less then a straight person (Ogergefell v Hodges was specifically mentioned in that leaked Supreme Court decision)?. Are you a transgender person or the parent to a transgender child that has to worry if you’ll even be allowed necessary healthcare?

    16. On top of everything else Alacaraz is struggling at the French Open. The world is too much to bear.

      The politics of guns are quite complex and quite important. I hope they change.

    17. Are you a woman who could potentially need an abortion? Are you a gay person who has to worry about your state treating you as less then a straight person (Ogergefell v Hodges was specifically mentioned in that leaked Supreme Court decision)?. Are you a transgender person or the parent to a transgender child that has to worry if you’ll even be allowed necessary healthcare?

      I get this. I really do. That is why I said it is a tall ask. But the thing is, if people who supported those things MOVED to those states, they could change the outcome of who gets elected not only to Congress but also to the governorship and state senates of those states. And then those laws could be overturned.

      The thing is, in these states there are democrats and liberals living there. Every single red state has a blue dot or two in their state where all the democrats and liberals live. So if more liberals/democrats moved to those states and those states suddenly were up for grabs and not safely red, the politicians in those states would have to moderate their message and agenda because they would not be safe from losing to a democrat.

    18. Yeah, if the politics change you could put a big dent in the problem. I don’t know about a solution though.

    19. In 2020, Joe Biden won California by almost 5 million votes!

      He won NY state by almost 2 million votes!

      He won Illinois by 1 million votes. Massachussets by 1.2 million.

      That’s a 10 million voter advantage in 4 states.

      If you look at places like Wyoming, South Dakota, Kansas, North Dakota, etc…Trump won those by maybe several hundred thousand to half a million votes. You could take 5 million Dems from those 4 super blue states and move them to those other places and the Democrats would NEVER lost the presidency and would always control the senate (and thus the supreme court). THAT would be a game changer. Republicans would have no choice but to moderate or die.

      I know it’s a pipe dream. But if I could wave a wand right now, that is what I would do.

      It would completely alter the electoral landscape for the presidency and the senate and house. Would also change the governorship in all of those states and add more dems to the state senate in those states. Republicans would be fucked if that happened.

    20. An 18 year old purchased 2 assault rifles and used them to mow down elementary school kids. And nothing will be done about it.

      If that doesn’t tell you that we’re fucked as a country nothing does.

    21. You would need to net 120,000 votes in Wyoming to flip it blue, in a state where there are 500,000 people. You’d need to increase the population of Wyoming by like 50% to achieve that.

    22. I think there are at least 2 gun problems here.

      1. All the gun violence related to poverty, drug deals, gangs, robberies etc..

      2. The mass shootings like yesterday.

      I’m definitely not smart enough to solve any of it, but the 2nd seems to be more of a mental health issue. Most of these young adults are suffering from a lack of social skills (Aspergers?), anxiety, depression, loneliness, anger about their life, bullying etc.. Some are on medication for their issues.

      I don’t think there’s a band-aid solution to that problem. We have to identify these kids quickly, find a way of treating them that actually help (meds alone are not the answer), and most importantly find out why it seems to be a growing epidemic and try to fix that. IMO, we have to address the “underlying cause”. The gun violence is a symptom. This country is constantly looking for quick fixes. We have to address the underlying cultural and other problems that are leading to a mental health epidemic. I have opinions on what’s causing it and why it’s accelerating, but I’m not an expert on that. I just know meds and new gun rules are a band-aid to a more serious underlying problem that’s getting worse. We have to do more than that.

    23. In the demographic discussion, you are leaving off the fact that conservatives and businesses in blue states tend to move to red or purple states to be with more people that share their views on economics, business, taxes, and social issues. That’s why some blue states have massive margins. Many of the conservatives already left and were replaced by more blue. So while it’s possible to flip a state (The Free State Project for example has been trying to do that with New Hampshire for a long time) as you shift a single state blue, the conservatives will move to purple states and shift them red or other red states and give themselves a bigger margin there.

    24. Deefense = You forgot suicide. 2/3rds of gun deaths are suicide. But otherwise that’s an important Republican talking point for sure.

    25. America is #1 by a mile in civilian gun ownership, with a whopping 120.5 firearms per 100 residents. The average person in America owns 1.2 guns.

      That’s more than double the amount of the #2 country, Yemen, which clocks in at 52.8. Next on the list is Serbia at 39.1, so we’re more than triple the rate of the #3 country.

      Maybe, just maybe, that has something to do with gun violence!

    26. Seems more and more like the Founding Fathers really fucked up in ratifying the second amendment. Or would they be okay with what’s going on today on the basis of that amendment being improperly interpreted?

    27. Owen:
      Deefense = You forgot suicide. 2/3rds of gun deaths are suicide. But otherwise that’s an important Republican talking point for sure.

      I absolutely overlooked suicide. Thanks. That’s another clear indication of the mental health crisis.

      I don’t like the term “talking point” because it sounds political. I’m trying not to be political in this discussion. I’m not a gun owner, never fired a gun, have no interest in guns, but I have some friends that hunt, go to the firing range for target practice, have guns for self defense in more rural areas etc…

      I’m trying to push a view that we have to do more than regulate. There’s a big underlying mental health problem here too. People like that are going to act out in other ways too and we owe to them and ourselves to help them before they do.

    28. doing some tv viewing slumming today to see how Fox/OAN/NewsMax are covering the event…

      of course they’re blaming law enforcement and the “system” for not identifying and preventing this particular shooter…

      they’re highlighting the fact the assailant has latin heritage…

      emphasizing any data ever made available, by any source at all, which states assault rifles aren’t really any kind of culprit here…

      so sad, there has to be something more than simply greed happening here…

      i’m pretty sure it has shit to do with civil liberties…

      the potential for violence in individuals isn’t something new, individuals aren’t suddenly becoming more violent…resource availability and technology have opened access to these events…

      profiling measures and gun owner evaluations are critical, but only a part of the solution, the access/resource issue must be addressed…

    29. It is political. Unavoidably. Unfortunately.

      The numbers don’t indicate that mental illness in America is markedly different from other Western countries. Well, treatment varies. But the base rates seem broadly similar.

    30. Z-man: Seems more and more like the Founding Fathers really fucked up in ratifying the second amendment. Or would they be okay with what’s going on today on the basis of that amendment being improperly interpreted?

      I don’t think the Founding Fathers foresaw that firearms would outnumber citizens, or that some of those firearms would be so powerful that, for one of many examples, a single person could shoot nearly 500 people over ten minutes from a hotel window a half mile away, or that regulatory capture would be so powerful that politicians would bend to lobbyists’ whims just to keep the premium lobster salads and chardonnay on the table.

    31. The Honorable Cock Jowles: I don’t think the Founding Fathers foresaw that firearms would outnumber citizens, or that some of those firearms would be so powerful that, for one of many examples, a single person could shoot nearly 500 people over ten minutes from a hotel window a half mile away, or that regulatory capture would be so powerful that politicians would bend to lobbyists’ whims just to keep the premium lobster salads and chardonnay on the table.

      That’s what foresight is all about, though…and in this case, they didn’t have it.

    32. The first four words of the Second Amendment are “A Well Regulated Militia.”

      Don’t think this is on the Founders and their lack of foresight.

    33. It is political. Unavoidably. Unfortunately.

      Fuck the politicians. It’s legislative. Follow the pro-life playbook. They’re about to get roe v wade overturned without ever getting any democrats to change their mind.

      New York & California need to do for gun control what Mississippi and Texas did for abortion. Pepper the courts with new laws that the other side finds egregious. Beat them in court where the NRA’s influence is mitigated.

      Mayor Bloomberg did it with “carry” vs “bear”.

    34. Well, I am not a conservative lawyer but I know a few. I don’t think that strategy will get you very far.

    35. numbers don’t indicate that mental illness in America is markedly different

      it’s so bizarre, it’s like the guns are victims too…

      i try to avoid perceiving the future in some type of dystopian view (little joy to it), it’s not hard to imagine though america containing the most globally radicalized actors/groups living/operating in – native to – its borders within the next thirty years or so…

      there’s no doubt in my mind that the overwhelming majority of us all are fairly decent and kind individuals…it’s just as our overall numbers increase, so do violent outliers…lethal resources and their access has to be better controlled…

      it’s been a while since i’ve really read through any reports/studies comparing our country to the rest of the world…i’ve seen different numbers here and there, but i haven’t checked in on anything in-depth recently… there’s some meaning behind those numbers…

    36. The first four words of the Second Amendment are “A Well Regulated Militia.”

      Don’t think this is on the Founders and their lack of foresight.

      100%.

      This is largely on Justice Scalia expanding the privileges granted in the 2nd amendment.

      And they’re weak there. They’ve been weak there for a decade but no one’s gone after it.

      I want my state legislature to ban the sale of guns in New York immediately. Not to put tracers on them. Not to outlaw bump stacks. Ban the sale of guns in New York now. Establish “a well regulated militia” as per the constitution (they can bear arms, no one else can). And make the NRA beat us in court.

    37. One problem is that Republicans, especially in the age of Mitch McConnell, use whatever power they have ruthlessly. They made up new rules to deny Merrick Garland a SCOTUS seat, then blatantly flouted those new rules to rush Amy Coney Barrett into another seat while Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s body was still warm. They are shameless in their exercise of pure unadulterated power. They will gleefully smash whatever norm is necessary to achieve their goals.

      Democrats don’t do that. They (wrongly) believe that norms will save them, and they don’t really seem to truly understand the battle they are in. First chance Republicans get to do a national ban of abortion, they will do that, even if it means getting rid of Joe Manchin’s beloved filibuster. They’d do that in a heartbeat.

    38. It’s “in court” right now, and the NRA is going to win it.

      You misunderstand me.

      “It” is an endless cascade of new laws constantly presented year after year after year, with each one learning from previous defeats, persistently presented until the court turns in our favor.

      It’s a strategy doesn’t stop after one defeat. Did the Republicans give up after Roe or Casey? They wrote law after law making it harder to have abortions until they managed to appoint the court that would oblige them.

      That is “it”.

    39. Owen:
      It is political. Unavoidably. Unfortunately.

      The numbers don’t indicate that mental illness in America is markedly different from other Western countries. Well, treatment varies. But the base rates seem broadly similar.

      I have a tough time believing that.

      If it’s similar around the world, then it’s rising everywhere or they are changing the definitions.

      When I was young, we all knew a few kids or people that seemed a bit “off”. We were pretty ignorant back then (at least among my family and friends), but we saw it. It was pretty rare though. Now we medicate everyone. Many millions of people are on anti anxiety or anti depression meds. Kids are getting medicated.

      Mental illness is way up in just the last two years from the lockdowns, job loss, isolation, fear, stress etc… of Covid. Among young people I’m reading reports of it being off the charts.

    40. Hubert – They didn’t find a court that was willing to oblige them. They picked one. Politically. And it took 50 years.

    41. Owen:
      The first fourwords of the Second Amendment are “A Well Regulated Militia.”

      Don’t think this is on the Founders and their lack of foresight.

      “Shall not be infringed” clearly has trumped (pun intended) “A well-regulated militia” in the Supreme Court, which is the only place that matters. And now that it is institutionalized in every nook and cranny of this country except certain urban centers, the “well-regulated” part doesn’t matter. At the end of the day, there was no need for this right to be guaranteed in any shape or form. It was a fuck-up.

    42. The one hope for addressing the issue given the current constitution and laws is to have the Court allow for gun manufacturers and sellers and owners to be sued for any damage caused by their guns. More broadly, apply many of the same rules for car ownership to gun ownership. That all of these parties have immunity from civil and criminal liability is as much at the root of the problem as anything.

    43. They are shameless in their exercise of pure unadulterated power. They will gleefully smash whatever norm is necessary to achieve their goals.

      This is why we need to flip the script on them and come up with a long view plan. My moving liberals to blue states is just one idea (and admittedly a really unrealistic one). But we need to think that way. This and all the other fights (abortion rights, healthcare, climate change action, etc.) are not going to be won in the next election. We need to take back the courts. We need to chip away at the overwhelming support republicans have in rural America (even if we can’t win those counties, we need to make the defeats not as bad). We need to register as many new, young voters as possible EVERYWHERE.

      And yes, I think using this abortion law change against them on this particular issue would be one pretty effective strategy. I also think we do have to stop thinking all rural republican voters are dumb rednecks who don’t know any better.

      I’m not even sure the Democratic party is up for it, honestly. But I also don’t think we can just say “Manchin sucks” and blame any lack of action on him. Manchin is a conservative democrat who holds office in a super red state. If we had two more Democratic senators and not a 50/50 tie then Manchin and Sinema would be a non-issue.

    44. I also think we need to call their bluff on the mental health argument. Put forth legislation that would greatly expand mental health coverage in this country and call them out on it loudly every day when they vote against it (which they will).

      Deefense, I don’t actually disagree with your arguments but I do think the proliferation of guns, especially assault rifles, cannot be ignored. Its not either/or…its both. Mental health and young people feeling like there’s no hope in the future or being influenced by what they read online, etc…is probably playing a role. But so is easy access to guns, no universal background checks or real restrictions on who can purchase a gun…that plays a role too.

      Here’s an idea. Just up the legal age to purchase a gun to 21.

    45. JK47:
      One problem is that Republicans, especially in the age of Mitch McConnell, use whatever power they have ruthlessly. They made up new rules to deny Merrick Garland a SCOTUS seat, then blatantly flouted those new rules to rush Amy Coney Barrett into another seat while Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s body was still warm. They are shameless in their exercise of pure unadulterated power. They will gleefully smash whatever norm is necessary to achieve their goals.

      Democrats don’t do that. They (wrongly) believe that norms will save them, and they don’t really seem to truly understand the battle they are in. First chance Republicans get to do a national ban of abortion, they will do that, even if it means getting rid of Joe Manchin’s beloved filibuster. They’d do that in a heartbeat.

      I found this amusing because when I read conservative blogs they say the same exact things in reverse and give examples. We all see this stuff through our own political eyes.

      Getting older has one small advantage. I’ve seen more than when I was young.

      I hate much of the private sector because I know it’s full of corrupt greedy slime.

      I hate much of the government because I know it’s full of corrupt, incompetent, greedy slime.

      I hate that the slime in the private sector buys the slime in the government.

      They all suck. Hell isn’t large enough to fit all their souls. Most people (left and right) are not the problem. We may have different priorities, values and preferable solutions to problems, but we could easily work it out. It’s the people with power that are the hellish ghouls.

    46. Hubert – They didn’t find a court that was willing to oblige them. They picked one. Politically. And it took 50 years.

      Yes, exactly. And we should be doing the same thing for the next 50 years or however long it takes.

      But, even before they picked the court they wanted, it was damn near impossible to get an abortion in states that didn’t want you to have one. And that’s because the state legislatures made it that way. It is time for our state legislatures to do the same thing.

      Texas figured out you can get around Roe by making it illegal to *perform* the abortion. New York has come up with nothing like that. I don’t know how else to say this: the Democratic government in the state of New York is Pro Gun.

      The only politician I have ever seen with the will to do something was Mayor Bloomberg, and he got it done. The NRA has been moaning about his laws for 20 years now AND THEY HAVEN’T BEEN ABLE TO DO SHIT ABOUT IT. We need all our governors and state senates to be like him.

    47. “Deefense, I don’t actually disagree with your arguments but I do think the proliferation of guns, especially assault rifles, cannot be ignored. ”

      I’m personally against assault rifles. I think they should all be illegal PERIOD. I see no reason for them and I’m sympathetic to some some of the other concerns of gun people.

    48. I found this amusing because when I read conservative blogs they say the same exact things in reverse and give examples. We all see this stuff through our own political eyes.

      Can you give examples of how Democrats have abused power on par with Mitch McConnell denying Obama a supreme court pick one year before the 2016 election but then ramming through their pick one month before the 2020 election? There is not anything close to that kind of abuse of power and double standard and the ramifications of it are going to last for decades.

      That’s a potential 5-4 majority on the supreme court for Dems now being a 6-3 majority for conservatives. Even a 5-4 majority is ok bc it’s so close I think it makes it hard for one side to do something like overturning roe v. wade. But 6-3 they can say “fuck it.”

    49. “And we should be doing the same thing for the next 50 years or however long it takes”

      We are Knicks fans! We have been training for this all our lives!

      Strat – Again, there is nothing anomalous in the mental illness numbers. Rates of gun ownership however are twice any other country in the world (which is to say more than double the rate in Yemen.)

      I would suggest parsimony is the right tactic here but do your thing.

    50. Can you give examples of how Democrats have abused power on par with Mitch McConnell denying Obama a supreme court pick one year before the 2016 election but then ramming through their pick one month before the 2020 election? There is not anything close to that kind of abuse of power and double standard and the ramifications of it are going to last for decades.

      The examples you are going to get are going to be of the utmost false equivalence variety. “My job in which I work with elderly people made me get a vaccine, which is exactly the same as Mitch McConnell stealing two Supreme Court seats, bOtH sIdEs Do It”

    51. Strat – Again, there is nothing anomalous in the mental illness numbers. Rates of gun ownership however are twice any other country in the world (which is to say more than double the rate in Yemen.)

      We have more than double than Yemen, and AT LEAST THREE TIMES as many as all other countries on Earth.

      Gotta be the mental illness doe

    52. And vis a vis the SC. The Republicans would have a 5-4 majority regardless of what rule you applied regarding deaths in election years. The more popular talking point is that both GWB and Trump were elected without popular majorities.

    53. Today’s strat takes make me wonder which primary sources are on tap.

    54. ***Texas figured out you can get around Roe by making it illegal to *perform* the abortion. New York has come up with nothing like that.***

      California’s governor said this following the Texas abortion ban:

      “If states can now shield their laws from review by the federal courts that compare assault weapons to Swiss Army knives, then California will use that authority to protect people’s lives, where Texas used it to put women in harm’s way. I have directed my staff to work with the Legislature and the Attorney General on a bill that would create a right of action allowing private citizens to seek injunctive relief, and statutory damages of at least $10,000 per violation plus costs and attorney’s fees, against anyone who manufactures, distributes, or sells an assault weapon or ghost gun kit or parts in the State of California. If the most efficient way to keep these devastating weapons off our streets is to add the threat of private lawsuits, we should do just that.”

      And, in today’s news, that law has advanced in the overwhelmingly democratic legislature where it faces no GOP protective cover, so you’re going to get your wish, Hubert.

      https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-05-25/california-senate-advances-newsom-sponsored-gun-bill-modeled-after-texas-abortion-law

    55. Strat – Again, there is nothing anomalous in the mental illness numbers. Rates of gun ownership however are twice any other country in the world (which is to say more than double the rate in Yemen.)

      I think we agree that automatic weapons are the vehicle of choice for the mentally unstable in the US because they are so easy to get and can do so much damage. If we removed them, we would lower gun violence. That’s the kind of band-aid solution we tend to pursue in modern politics.

      IMO, since they are unstable and angry at least some of them are going to lash out in other ways.

      So imo we also have to fix what’s causing so many people to lash out and get violent to begin with. If not, it’s just a matter of time before they start poisoning salad bars, building bombs, etc.. instead. But no one seems to want to talk about why we have so many kids on meds and all fvcked up. That’s probably because it would involve a total overhaul of our value system.

      Mental health must be addressed if we really want to try to fix things in a more sustainable way instead of just using a little Betadine and a Band-aid.

    56. so you’re going to get your wish, Hubert

      About time someone listened to me ;)

      That is the way. We in the blue states must constantly pass laws that are an affront to Scalia’s opinion that currently dominates the land.

      And fuck their supreme court majority. Pass the laws now. It takes a long time to get to the supreme court. Roe has not been overturned yet it’s been impossible to get an abortion in most red states for most of the 21st century.

    57. Owen:
      The more popular talking point is that both GWB and Trump were elected without popular majorities.

      I think the founders would not only be satisfied with that kind of outcome, they had it mind, even if they would hate the specific people that won.

    58. Strat – I don’t really know what you mean there and I care as much about what the Founders thought or would think about this as any Republican lawmaker. Which is to say not at all. As it happens, they are all dead.

      The contrarian take is that actual number of people killed in these kinds of events is tiny compared to the absolute number of gun deaths. Which I actually have a grudging respect for because you have to be a true asshole to espouse it. But the notion is, how many lives would you actually save. Suicide rates are actually higher in places like South Korea and Japan, where there is no access to firearms.

      My feeling about this is that I am fully prepared to see how what happens if we aggressively regulate gun purchases. Perhaps it won’t help much and people will just go out and do school shootings with illicitly acquired guns rather than guns they got legally on their 18th birthday. Let’s just try it and see what happens.

    59. My feeling about this is that I am fully prepared to see how what happens if we aggressively regulate gun purchases. Perhaps it won’t help much and people will just go out and do school shootings with illicitly acquired guns rather than guns they got legally on their 18th birthday. Let’s just try it and see what happens.

      ^ All of this, but instead of trying to get Republican senators to do it on a national scale, let’s just get the Democrats we’ve elected to do it on a city and state level. That’s what I’m talking about. We’ll never live in a country without guns. But we can live in a state that doesn’t sell AR-15s.

    60. Hubert: I don’t know how else to say this: the Democratic government in the state of New York is Pro Gun.

      I think you forget that a good deal more than 50% of NYS is Texas with sugar maples…

    61. Your math is a little off (the Democratic party has either a 60-40 or 65-35 edge in NY, depending on the election cycle), but I do recognize there is strong support for guns in New York. But there are a lot of liberals in Texas, too.

    62. Fair enough, I guess I was thinking more geography than population, which at least at the state level is less important (but not entirely what with gerrymandering). But point taken.

    63. The thing about band aids is that they stop the bleeding.

      There are plenty of instances where a patient has immediate wounds that need to be triaged before a more complex surgery can be performed to get to the deeper medical issue and “heal” the patient.

      “Band aid” solutions like banning assault rifles and a universal nation wide background check/registry would have an immediate positive impact. It would literally stop the bleeding or at least slow down the bleeding.

      Then we can get to work on more complex, deeper root causes like mental health issues.

    64. “To be clear: this is 100% their fault.”

      Look up how many mass shooters come from “broken” homes and then ask yourself which side has championed the cultural and economic changes that have led to fewer intact families. Hint: It’s not conservatives.

      Or try this, which side supported dismantling the system and practice of institutionalizing people with obvious mental problems? Look up how many beds there were for mental health care in the 1950s compared to today.

      And hey! Who just went on and on and on and on and on about defunding the police and expelling officers from schools? And when talking about gun violence, how about we factor in how much of it occurs in urban centers where no Republican or conservative has held any poltical power for generations?

      There’s an old saying: If you meet one a-hole during the day, he was just an a-hole. If everybody you meet during the day is an a-hole, that means YOU are really the a-hole. Similarly, if you consistently fail to change gun laws no matter how many mass shootings occur, maybe you should consider the problem isn’t the other guys. Maybe the problem is you.

      Mike

    65. swiftandabundant:
      The thing about band aids is that they stop the bleeding.

      There are plenty of instances where a patient has immediate wounds that need to be triaged before a more complex surgery can be performed to get to the deeper medical issue and “heal” the patient.

      “Band aid” solutions like banning assault rifles and a universal nation wide background check/registry would have an immediate positive impact. It would literally stop the bleeding or at least slow down the bleeding.

      Then we can get to work on more complex, deeper root causes like mental health issues.

      I am not opposed to band-aids. I am opposed to using a band-aid to get some short term benefit without addressing the underlying problem. That’s been the pattern in the US. In this case, no one wants to address WHY so many teens are on meds and lashing out.

    66. Impressive how Mike managed to be blatantly wrong on every single point he made.

    67. KevinR:
      Impressive how Mike managed to be blatantly wrong on every single point he made.

      Really. It is quite breathtaking.

      I’d love to see how “pre-school for all” compares to “massive and rapidly growing inequity and a shattered safety net” (especially in urban settings, i.e., BIPOC communities) in terms of causing broken homes.

      I have indeed met an a-hole today.

    68. There’s an even older saying: if the only time you show up on an Knicks Blog is to cite NRA propaganda the day after an elementary school shooting, that means YOU are really, for sure, and without a doubt, the a-hole.

    69. All I know is that the solution to the problem is tax cuts for the rich, since that is the Republican solution to every single problem.

    70. ***All I know is that the solution to the problem is tax cuts for the rich, since that is the Republican solution to every single problem.***

      And opposing universal access to health care for political purposes without providing any alternative of their own (which, since it’s “not guns but mental health issues that are the real problem”, still leaves them holding the receipts no matter how the blame is cut).

    71. Mike, if you look up who votes for police funding and who votes against it it’s the republicans who vote against it and democrats who vote for it. Democrats have much higher ratings from police lobbying groups than Republicans do

    72. MBunge: Look up how many mass shooters come from “broken” homes and then ask yourself which side has championed the cultural and economic changes that have led to fewer intact families. Hint: It’s not conservatives.

      The #1 cause of broken homes is financial disagreements, i.e., lack of money. After separation financial troubles are often exacerbated due to the move from a dual income home to a single income home. In fact, the difference in household income explains most of the differences in outcome between broken and non-brokem homes. One party attempts to alleviate poverty, the other doesn’t.

      Moreover, we need to suss out the cause from the correlation when it comes to broken homes. Broken homes are often a result of mental health disorders and substance abuse. Mental health and predilection for substance abuse are heavily genetic. Genetics is the overwhelmingly likely cause of both broken homes and mass shootings.

      People suffer from mental health issues the world over, but only in America does that lead to mass shootings you can set your atomic clock to.

    73. MBunge: Look up how many mass shooters come from “broken” homes and then ask yourself which side has championed the cultural and economic changes that have led to fewer intact families. Hint: It’s not conservatives.

      Boy you are pretty much braindead huh?

      I have asked myself which side champions economic policies that make it easier to raise a family. It’s the one that expanded the child tax credit last year without a single Republican vote and supports a slew of other measures to make raising a family in this country less arduous, like raising the minimum wage, providing for paid family leave, and making sure healthcare is affordable for everyone.

      I guess the “cultural” bit here is a swipe at LGBT acceptance. Tell me Mike, do you have access to data indicating school shooters tend to be born disproportionately to LGBT parents? I’ve never seen this and am quite curious!

      MBunge: And when talking about gun violence, how about we factor in how much of it occurs in urban centers where no Republican or conservative has held any poltical power for generations?

      Something your ilk doesn’t seem to grasp is there are some people who think stopping *school shootings* is an ethical imperative independent of its effect on overall gun violence statistics, which of course do need to be brought down as well.

      School shootings are a uniquely terrifying, horrible phenomenon and if you just throw them in there with “gun violence” you might not have a functioning conscience.

    74. MBunge: Or try this, which side supported dismantling the system and practice of institutionalizing people with obvious mental problems? Look up how many beds there were for mental health care in the 1950s compared to today.

      Institutions, which have a notorious history of abuse, were dismantled by Carter to be replaced by community mental health systems. The Mental Health Services Act was signed into law by President Carter in 1980. In 1981, Ronald Reagan (R) repealed the Mental Health Services Act as he did many mental health services in California.

      In short, Republicans are responsible for the lack of mental health services. The dismantling of formal institutions is a red herring.

      MBunge: And hey! Who just went on and on and on and on and on about defunding the police and expelling officers from schools? And when talking about gun violence, how about we factor in how much of it occurs in urban centers where no Republican or conservative has held any poltical power for generations?

      Interpretations of the 2nd Amendment and federal law enacted by Republicans still apply to states and cities and heavily constrains the ability of local government to restrict sales of guns. Any implementation of gun laws are inevitably stayed until the courts can resolve their constitutionality.

      In regards specifically to mass shootings, the majority occur in small towns and suburbs, not urban centers. Uvalde, Texas has a population of 15,000. Not exactly an urban center. Columbine 40,000. Sandy Hook I can’t find a population number, but nobody would mistake it for an urban area.

    75. hmmmmm, wow, so once again, go VA…just got my PAXLOVID, and feeling kind of okay already, thank you vaccine and booster…

      covid protocols seem to have eased quite a bit the last half year or so…

      looks like maybe I might just be rocking a black mask this friday…

    76. There’s an old saying: If you meet one a-hole during the day, he was just an a-hole. If everybody you meet during the day is an a-hole, that means YOU are really the a-hole

      Is there some sort of Moon Knight thing going on here where Alan and Mike Bunge share the same body?

    77. I have asked myself which side champions economic policies that make it easier to raise a family.

      I personally think it’s the one that doesn’t tax the everliving shit out of you but that’s just the fiscal conservative in me in that doesn’t like handing more than half my earned income over to the government every year in payroll tax, state tax, city tax, property tax, sales tax, congestion tax, capital gains tax, oh and the special 3.9% tax to cover the ACA and the fact that I have to pay way more for gas because we don’t want anyone to build a pipeline anymore.

      But hey we’re on the same team on that other thing so let’s just stick with that :)

    78. I’m not watching Boston Miami, but the score at halftime is 37 to 42. That must be some defense by both teams.

    79. *** the score at halftime is 37 to 42. That must be some defense by both teams.***

      Honestly, it’s not the D. It’s more that the only guys on the court that seem to not be secretly playing through a major injury are Derrick White and Caleb Martin.

    80. Well Miami shooting 14% from 3 and Strus missing his last 17 shots isn’t helping their cause either

    81. When the season started I thought the eventual NBA champion would come out of East. But some teams self-destructed and Miami and Boston are engaged in a war of attrition and neither one may be in good enough shape to face whoever wins the West.

    82. I just wish this east series was a bit more fun to watch. I’m fine with the C’s going to the finals, but I’d like to see them beat a Heat team that could cobble together 80 points against a G-League team. Butler is being sagged off of outside of 10 feet, Lowry’s become paunchy since game 1, and Tyler Hero looks like Charlie Sheen’s douchey nephew in his street clothes.

    83. I expected the Heat to run out of gas eventually because I really don’t think they have enough offensive weapons, and depending on the corpse of Kyle Lowry and Victor Oladipo isn’t a good thing, but this is far more extreme than what I expected. Just ugly basketball all around, so many wide open shots missed.

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