Knicks Morning News (2022.05.12)

  • Largest Margins of Victory in NBA Playoff History – NBC New York
    [www.nbcnewyork.com] — Thursday, May 12, 2022 4:40:00 AM

    Largest Margins of Victory in NBA Playoff History  NBC New York

  • Nuggets’ Nikola Jokic wins 2021-22 Kia Most Valuable Player award – NBA.com
    [www.nba.com] — Wednesday, May 11, 2022 11:18:35 PM

    Nuggets’ Nikola Jokic wins 2021-22 Kia Most Valuable Player award  NBA.com

  • Is looming free agent Mitchell Robinson hinting at a Knicks return? – Daily Knicks
    [dailyknicks.com] — Wednesday, May 11, 2022 5:00:00 PM

    Is looming free agent Mitchell Robinson hinting at a Knicks return?  Daily Knicks

  • Who Owns New York? Nets’ Kyrie Irving Won’t Concede to Knicks – Sports Illustrated
    [www.si.com] — Wednesday, May 11, 2022 4:53:55 PM

    Who Owns New York? Nets’ Kyrie Irving Won’t Concede to Knicks  Sports Illustrated

  • New York Knicks draft profile: Duke F Paolo Banchero – Elite Sports NY
    [elitesportsny.com] — Wednesday, May 11, 2022 4:00:40 PM

    New York Knicks draft profile: Duke F Paolo Banchero  Elite Sports NY

  • ‘Nixed?’ Lakers’ Russell Westbrook, Julius Randle & Zach LaVine Knicks Trade Idea – Sports Illustrated
    [www.si.com] — Wednesday, May 11, 2022 3:29:04 PM

    ‘Nixed?’ Lakers’ Russell Westbrook, Julius Randle & Zach LaVine Knicks Trade Idea  Sports Illustrated

  • Knicks Prospect Rokas Jokubaitis Wins EuroLeague Rising Star Trophy – Sports Illustrated
    [www.si.com] — Wednesday, May 11, 2022 2:41:41 PM

    Knicks Prospect Rokas Jokubaitis Wins EuroLeague Rising Star Trophy  Sports Illustrated

  • Are the Knicks interested in…Immanuel Quickley? – Posting and Toasting
    [www.postingandtoasting.com] — Wednesday, May 11, 2022 12:50:28 PM

    Are the Knicks interested in…Immanuel Quickley?  Posting and ToastingReport: Knicks, Pistons, Pacers will make run at Brunson this summer  NBC SportsDetroit Pistons: Competing with the Knicks for free agents is a bad idea  Piston PoweredKnicks rumors: Biggest spoilers for New York’s Jalen Brunson pursuit  ClutchPointsKnicks, Pistons, Pacers interested in Jalen Brunson  Hoops HypeView Full Coverage on Google News

  • Liked it? Take a second to support Administrator on Patreon!

    70 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2022.05.12)”

    1. Still thinking about Jrue in the closing minutes of last night’s game. Just two spectacular defensive plays that would have been fouls from an even slightly less skilled defender.

    2. Alan:
      Still thinking about Jrue in the closing minutes of last night’s game. Just two spectacular defensive plays that would have been fouls from an even slightly less skilled defender.

      Yeah, and it absolutely turned the series around in a massive way. If he didn’t make those plays they would be going back to Milwaukee after a gut wrenching loss, needing to win 2 in a row coming back to Boston for game 7, which probably means they would try to rush Middleton back for game 6. It’s been a while since we saw two absolutely crucial defensive plays like this completely change a series.

    3. The Bucks gave up 3 first rounders and 2 future pick swaps to get Holiday, and there’s no way they win the title last year or possibly this year without him. One of the best 2 way players in the NBA, probably underrated.

      Going all in makes a ton of sense when you’ve got the Greek Freak in his prime.

    4. Alan:
      Still thinking about Jrue in the closing minutes of last night’s game. Just two spectacular defensive plays that would have been fouls from an even slightly less skilled defender.

      Don’t forget about the monster do-or-die 3 he made to tie the game. I used to underrate him but not anymore after last year. He’s got that Derek Jeter clutch vibe going.

    5. Yeah, I was going to say that he made a huge 3 too. He completely dominated that game. And yeah, they paid a lot and they got what they paid for, which is rare. But they understood the win curve.

    6. If you get two titles out of that trade, it is worth everything it cost, absolutely. If you get only one title out of that trade — and the franchise’s first title in FIFTY years — it is still probably worth it. Banners fly forever and all that. It seemed like an overpay at the time because Jrue’s not a top 10 player, but my goodness has that fit been perfect.

    7. Phil Jackson advising the Lakers to trade Lebron and keep Westbrook? lmao

      I guess it makes sense if you’ve concluded you can’t put together a serious championship contender in time for Lebron’s short window. Someone will still pay a good price for James and you can jumpstart a rebuild. Whoever trades for him just better put something in writing that say James can’t be involved in any personnel decisions. lmao

    8. My memory is shot and I don’t really remember what the consensus was. I feel like there was some agreement that it was a plausible move. As I recall, there were a bunch of new metrics at the time that showed that Jrue had been a top 10-15 player in the league and that he had outsized defensive impact for a small. But i don’t think anyone saw it working out this well.

    9. Owen:
      Yeah, I was going to say that he made a huge 3 too. He completely dominated that game. And yeah, they paid a lot and they got what they paid for, which is rare. But they understood the win curve.

      It’s more than just win curve. If you are the “Milwaukee” Bucks and you have Giannis, you better keep him happy or he’ll soon be a Bull, Laker, Celtic etc… No way he’s hanging around a long draft rebuild. You do what you can in the draft to bring in useful players with whatever picks you have left and hope to get lucky, but once he personally comes into his own, you are automatically in win now mode even if the rest of the roster can’t beat a G league team. If you aren’t all in, he’s all out.

    10. A lot of people loved Jrue’s game and knew how good he was, but they were people that focused as much attention on defense from watching him play and looking at his on court impact on games and not just the boxscore. He’s been underrated his entire career.

    11. I just we were the team that had those Pelicans draft assets.

      But that requires long term thinking

    12. The Bucks roster is so well constructed. Play off disappointments so they go all in/overpay for a clutch performer. Jrue’s not a top 10 or even top 15 player, but in the playoffs you want him in your lineup. Too bad the Knicks rostered the wrong brother in 3 out of the 5 Bucks starters.

    13. The thing about how Holiday’s trade was discussed at the time was not really about him, everyone knew that he was a massive improvement over Bledsoe and the Bucks needed to make a move. The questions were if that was going to be enough, because it’s easy to forget that even last season there were analysts saying Giannis was a “Robin” and not an alpha guy, that he shot too poorly from range and the free throw line to be the best player in a title winning team etc. Those were somewhat valid concerns after they got embarrassed by the Heat in the bubble.

      I was on board with them bringing Holiday because if you’re Milwaukee that’s the type of trade you have to do to bring real talent, but Giannis proving he is a championship caliber player has definitely validated that move 100%. As much as Holiday was incredible at the end of last game, and he was truly fantastic, the Bucks would never be in the position for him to be clutch if Giannis doesn’t go off the first 3 quarters carrying them on his back.

    14. If the Bucks can survive this round and Middleton returns at something close to full strength for the conference finals, I would not at all enjoy playing them. Who’s up for Suns-Bucks Redux?

    15. So now the Laker’s trade possibility is Randle and Walker for LeBron? After Randle’s salary goes up next year that might work money wise.

    16. I’m not sure I’d do the trade though. LeBron is old. And although Phil was a terrible GM it was because he couldn’t administer or negotiate effectively. He was right to want to trade Porzingis for Booker.

    17. Knick fan not in NJ:
      I’m not sure I’d do the trade though.LeBron is old.And although Phil was a terrible GM it was because he couldn’t administer or negotiate effectively. He was right to want to trade Porzingis for Booker.

      LeBron is a drama queen but he still has enough left to make us a competitive team for the next 3 years. I’d make that deal if it could be done for just those two and a couple of picks.

    18. Deeefense!!: A lot of people loved Jrue’s game and knew how good he was, but they were people that focused as much attention on defense from watching him play and looking at his on court impact on games and not just the boxscore. He’s been underrated his entire career.

      Except stats like luck-adjusted RAPM have had him as a top two-way player for years. Being an ignorant contrarian is your MO, but maybe try a different tack, bud.

    19. I think the salary Portis had while here blinded a lot of people to the fact he was a useful player. He played center or power forward and was one of best three point shooters.

      It was this plus (can I say plus?) the fact that he was taking minutes from Mitch that made me undervalue him. I was happy to see him leave and I was wrong. He’s a good player and we could have really used him the last two years (at the right cost).

      I’ve said this before, but the moves made in the Mills/Perry era look pretty good in hindsight. If they had just not hired Fizdale and (allegedly) let him talk them into Knox, they’d be running the Knicks right now. I can see why they threw him under the bus after ten games.

    20. I’m not sure I’d do the trade though.LeBron is old.

      LeBron is an apex human. We have no idea what old is for him.

      I haven’t been reading rumors if Randle & Kemba for LeBron is an actual thing I will drive them to LA.

      As long as it’s “LeBron and the kids”, and not “trade the kids for LeBron sidekicks”, you have to say yes to that trade.

    21. I love this site and check in almost every day, but days like today I wish I hadn’t.

      LeBron for Randle and Kemba? Never, ever gonna happen but now I can’t stop thinking about it.

    22. I’d like to see CP3 win a title but I’m kinda hoping for a Warriors vs. Bucks finals.

      Would be cool to see the new, defending champs vs. the old dynasty that’s making a comeback.

    23. It’s more than just win curve.

      If you are the “Milwaukee” Bucks and you have Giannis, you better keep him happy or he’ll soon be a Bull, Laker, Celtic etc… No way he’s hanging around a long draft rebuild. You do what you can in the draft to bring in useful players with whatever picks you have left and hope to get lucky, but once he personally comes into his own, you are automatically in win now mode even if the rest of the roster can’t beat a G league team. If you aren’t all in, he’s all out.

      In part 1, he says it’s more than just win curve. And it part 2 he explains the win curve to us without getting it. Amazing.

      Also why is Milwaukee in quotes?

    24. Hate to bring it up, but as I remember it, Jrue Holiday was definitely very prominent on the Knicks’ and Donnie Walsh’s radar back in 2009 — the disastrous draft in which Steph Curry went a pick before ours, and Walsh panic-drafted Jordan Hill who was basically out of the league a few years later…

      See this Berman article here:
      https://nypost.com/2009/06/23/knicks-may-draft-jrue-holiday/

      NYTImes article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/23/sports/basketball/23knicks.html

      and the Gothamist (they write about the Knicks?): https://gothamist.com/news/knicks-and-nets-look-to-rebuild-in-2009-nba-draft

      It seems in a way the draft post-Curry was Jordan Hill vs. Jrue Holiday. SMH all day long.
      Just think about how many times we’ve prob been choosing between a couple players and repeatedly picked the wrong one. Artest vs. Weis. Hill vs. Holiday. Knox vs any number of players who came after him. Ntilikina instead of Donovan Mitchell, etc etc.

      This isn’t like why didn’t we draft Jokic instead of Cleanthony Early. These were players who were literally brought in for extra special workouts because we were so interested!

    25. The Jordan Hill pick was literally the biggest head scratcher of them all. Well, Knox and Frank were weird too but with Hill…we had Dantoni. Dantoni NEEDED a point guard. The whole plan was to clear cap space for 2010 to sign 2 big free agents and none of the 2010 free agents were point guards.

      I get they wanted Steph and panicked but IMO, why didn’t they just trade down and pick up Jrue a little later? They already had Gallo, David Lee and Chandler at the wing/PF spot.

      Obvs steph would have changed this franchise forever. But Jrue would have been an amazing consolation prize. He was pretty good out of the gate for Philly. We had no viable PG on the roster.

    26. I think it’s fair to say everyone agrees that if you have the best player in the league in his prime, it wouldn’t be the right time to trade all your vets for picks and embark on a multiyear rebuilding project.

    27. I can confirm I would be fine with making win now moves for the Knicks if we had Giannis, what a shocker, right?

    28. We are not trading for LeBron James, but there’s a three teamer floating around that could make some sense:

      Lakers get:
      LaVine

      Knicks get:
      Westbrook
      2027 and 2029 LAL firsts

      Bulls get:
      Randle and Fournier

      To be clear, the Bulls don’t touch this with a ten foot pole unless LaVine tells them he’s gone anyway. On the off chance that happens I could see all parties talking themselves into it, though the Bulls could almost certainly do better if they S&T LaVine.

      In any event, we should be looking to leverage the Lakers’ desperation to unload Randle.

    29. I don’t know. I think when you have a two time MVP in his absolute prime the best thing to do is keep all options open.

    30. I would love to get my hands on the Lakers 2027 & 2029 firsts. And throw in a pick swap for 2028, too, please. I just can’t see the Bulls being very excited about that trade.

    31. It has been a good series for the KB truthers with Memphis, Adams, Melton and Clarke all being important contributors.

    32. And Jones! Although Clarke has had some defensive issues it seems like.

      Also, Dillon Brooks. I have become aware that their is a large constituency on twitter that like me doesn’t understand how he is a starter. (Although with Morant out it gets less surprising.)

    33. thenoblefacehumper:
      We are not trading for LeBron James, but there’s a three teamer floating around that could make some sense:

      Lakers get:
      LaVine

      Knicks get:
      Westbrook
      2027 and 2029 LAL firsts

      Bulls get:
      Randle and Fournier

      To be clear, the Bulls don’t touch this with a ten foot pole unless LaVine tells them he’s gone anyway. On the off chance that happens I could see all parties talking themselves into it, though the Bulls could almost certainly do better if they S&T LaVine.

      In any event, we should be looking to leverage the Lakers’ desperation to unload Randle.

      This trade is insanely good for the Lakers, kinda fine for the Knicks, and terrible for the Bulls.
      First of all – taking on Westbrook’s salary in and of itself is worth 2 first round picks, and then the Lakers get Zach LaVine also?! In a sense Westbrook makes sense for the Knicks if the plan is to tank for Wembayana or Scoot because he is the ultimate Tank Commander, but I cannot imagine the Lakers will be able to get off that easy. They might be able to sell Westbrook and take back spare parts / bad contracts, but no way do they get Zach LaVine out of Westbrook.

    34. Tyus jones is an interesting possibility as a FA. Everyone says that he is a negative on D, too small blah blah blah but there is something to be said for a guy that just does not make mistakes with the ball and is able to shoot league average from 3. And for those that say he can’t survive in the playoffs, he has a BPM of 4.4 evenly distributed between OBPM and DPBM in the playoffs this year – seems to be surviving just fine, even if Minnesota kinda sucks and GSW doesn’t go mismatch hunting as much as, say, Miami or Boston might. At the MLE the Knicks really could do worse, and would cost nothing but $.

      (My preference is still to turn the PG job over to Quickley and let Deuce take over the Quickley role off the bench. Plus we still have Rokas waiting in the European wings).

    35. Frank: This trade is insanely good for the Lakers, kinda fine for the Knicks, and terrible for the Bulls.

      There’s one scenario in which the Bulls do it: LaVine says “I’m leaving, do the best you can in a sign-and-trade.”

      The Bulls could theoretically cut us out as the middle man and just get Westbrook and the picks themselves, but with DeRozan’s timeline you’d think they want immediate contributors.

      Obviously thinking Randle and Fournier is the best they could do in a sign-and-trade requires one to believe he won’t be the worst player in the NBA again, but it’s a bit hard to think of S&T possibilities for the Bulls that are clearly better from an immediate impact perspective.

    36. Frank:
      Tyus jones is an interesting possibility as a FA.Everyone says that he is a negative on D, too small blah blah blah but there is something to be said for a guy that just does not make mistakes with the ball and is able to shoot league average from 3.And for those that say he can’t survive in the playoffs, he has a BPM of 4.4 evenly distributed between OBPM and DPBM in the playoffs this year – seems to be surviving just fine, even if Minnesota kinda sucks and GSW doesn’t go mismatch hunting as much as, say, Miami or Boston might.At the MLE the Knicks really could do worse, and would cost nothing but $.

      (My preference is still to turn the PG job over to Quickley and let Deuce take over the Quickley role off the bench. Plus we still have Rokas waiting in the European wings).

      I’ve been on the Tyus Jones train for the longest mostly because I believe he and Quickley and Barrett can play together well, specially if we get a coach who can actually build an offensive scheme around them. Looking at how Bane is utilized in Memphis, that is sort of how I picture Barrett should be playing: he’s not fast enough to simply ISO against good defenders, but he’s strong and quick enough to make a move when he gets the ball in motion. For that to happen you need good and willing passers who can set him up, and Jones should be one of the cheapest options to do that.

      Defense will be an issue but it’s a trade off at the end, there’s not many good PGs around that are both productive offensive and lockdown defenders at the same time, the list of actual two way players in the league is very, very small and those guys are generally just not available.

    37. Hubert: LeBron is an apex human. We have no idea what old is for him.

      I haven’t been reading rumors if Randle & Kemba for LeBron is an actual thing I will drive them to LA.

      As long as it’s “LeBron and the kids”, and not “trade the kids for LeBron sidekicks”, you have to say yes to that trade.

      I’d do that trade too.

      Lakers fans are still holding onto the delusion that LeBron can still bring them another chip (though they’re souring on Davis due to his lack of durability). Yes, we would be yet again trading for a past-their-prime star, but…
      1. We wouldn’t necessarily be asking LeBron to lift that kind of weight.
      2. Even though he’ll be 38, if there’s one oldie that I would have the least reservation about running up and down the floor with our younguns, it’d be him.
      3. You know he’d make the right pass, get guys better shots and raise overall team BBIQ while still being a fast-break/transition menace.
      4. I also don’t think it’s a bad thing to bet that he’d retire before the end of Randle’s extension.

    38. I’m a little weirded out by all the Jesus ads. Is this mandated by the Supreme Court?

    39. I’m not going to look it up but fairly confident that 37yo Lebron James had a better statistical year than any Knick player ever. If he passes the physical, you take him.

    40. Embiid is obviously a fraction of his normal self with his multiple injuries, but boy, Morey is going to still have to think long and hard about how to handle Harden. He might just be washed up.

    41. My son’s future basketball team is looking pretty good. I’m happy. For him, of course. Just for him.

    42. Brian Cronin: Morey is going to still have to think long and hard about how to handle Harden. He might just be washed up.

      Now you have average offense, with no defense. Not a max player by any standard.

    43. If I was Morey I would have to seriously consider blowing this team up and restarting the “Process”.

      Harden’s age and lifestyle have clearly caught up to him. IMO you can’t give him a big long contract when he’s already declining.

      Embiid is 28 and has been injury prone his entire career. He’s got some very good years left in him, but I suspect this team is no longer close enough to the championship to retool quickly enough to actually win it all while he’s still peaking, assuming he’s healthy and in shape.

      I think I’d have to at least consider trading Embiid, Harden, and Harris (if possible) and go forward with Maxey and few other young players they have plus a bunch of picks and young prospects they get for Embiid.

      I don’t think he’ll do it, but I don’t see a path forward I like.

    44. “In part 1, he says it’s more than just win curve. And it part 2 he explains the win curve to us without getting it. Amazing.

      Also why is Milwaukee in quotes?”

      The right time in the win curve is not just about having your #1 option. It’s about being close enough to contention to empty the war chest for the final piece. It does not apply in his case because you can’t afford to lose him even if it sets you back in terms of what you what you would ideally like to do. If they had him and 14 kids from the local park and he says trade a bunch of picks for Holiday you do it and worry about the implications later.

      Milwaukee is in quotes because no one wants to play there for the weather, entertainment, women, or any other reason other than having a chance to win a title. We can’t even get second tier stars to NY because we always suck. So for the Bucks, getting someone like Giannis is a draft miracle. You can’t blow that.

    45. “I think Strat and I agree on this even though he seems to think we don’t.”

      We probably do. I was just clarifying that once you have Giannis, you are forced to throw everything out the window except keeping him happy. You can try to explain why “so and so” deal doesn’t make sense, but if he wants it you have to do it.

    46. If you trade Embiid at age 28 for any reason but a career-threatening injury, you are the worst GM in league history, instantly.

    47. I do think trading Embiid cannot be on the table. Injuries notwithstanding he’s still so absurdly productive and he loves Philly and identifies with the fans so much that you can’t possibly entertain that, you have to ride or die with him.

      I just don’t see how they get out of renewing with Harden, even at this massively diminished form he’s still a productive player. The real issue is this garbage Tobias Harris contract that everyone knew was garbage the instant it was offered to him. Priority number 1, hell the only priority should be to offload him for literally anything, ride Maxey’s rookie contract and try to add any depth, then hope, probably against reason, that a full injury-free off-season is what Harden needs to get back to his game. I don’t see another way to go for Philly honestly.

    48. “If you trade Embiid at age 28 for any reason but a career-threatening injury, you are the worst GM in league history, instantly.”

      Find me a year in his career Embiid was both healthy and in peak shape for the playoffs. There is none. This was the closest year because it involved a freak accident and not just his chronic issues. He’s always either hurt or nursed enough injuries during the year that he couldn’t get in peak shape and faded late in games. Not only are they dealing with his injury risk, his personal downside is coming soon. He’ll be a 29 year old big.

      Harden is looking close to washed, Danny Green is old, and Harris will be 30.

      They aren’t good enough now, there’s plenty of downside among those 3, and not much upside other than Maxey.

      They can try blowing it all up and rebuilding around Embiid and Maxey, but imo they can’t do it with a declining Harden, Harris and Green and I don’t think they can do it fast enough for what is likely to be a relatively short widow for Embiid.

      I do agree that if he did trade Embiid everyone on earth would say he’s crazy, but this team is not going anywhere. They had 2-3 year window, the Simmons issue was a nightmare, the trade sucked, and I think the window is about to close.

    49. Danny Green is old

      Danny Green’s leg got snapped in half this game, looks about as bad as the Livingston injury. His career is over. You should watch the games. It’ll tell you a lot more than some box score’s allegations of biological age.

    50. “Danny Green’s leg got snapped in half this game, looks about as bad as the Livingston injury. His career is over. You should watch the games. It’ll tell you a lot more than some box score’s allegations of biological age.”

      Haha.

      I saw that he got hurt, but I was out of the room when it happened. That’s a shame. He had a great career.

    51. Bruno Almeida:
      Luka is shredding the Suns right now, this series isn’t over.

      Just abhorrent levels of stat stuffing taking place right now. Had they traded Luka and kept Porzingis they would’ve swept the Suns already.

    52. It’s shocking how badly the Suns are playing. I mean, give Dallas credit, but Phoenix with 18 turnovers, most of them of them unforced.

    53. It’s crazy to think what Luka would be if he could really learn to shoot. As of now he’s only one of the most talented and productive ball handling wings in league history.

    54. My son’s future basketball team is looking pretty good. I’m happy. For him, of course. Just for him.

      this sounds like the beginning for a plot to escape new york…

      just in case you’re wondering hubie:

      miami >>>>>> new york city

      actually, i’ve only driven past miami on the way to key west, and i haven’t been in nyc for years and years…i just don’t like having it too cold outside i guess…

    55. Long time without sending a music to you all… now in portuguese, for a change! :)

      https://agarotanao.bandcamp.com/track/pr-dio-mais-alto

      Been listening to this on repeat mode for some days now! :D

      In english, the lyrics goes something like this:

      The tallest building

      I walk barefoot so no one can hear me
      For no one to feel me there on the ground floor
      I live on the top floor of the tallest building
      From our street

      I can’t take this lost love anymore
      I’m so tired… the mirror is right
      I live alone under a gray cloud in the saddest building
      From our street

      This love doesn’t feel right
      It hurts that it kills in the open
      I don’t know how to touch you anymore
      Everything in us now breakes
      And i don’t know anymore…

      If any of you spend time listening, and want to let me know what you think of it, i’ll try to let the author know of your feed-back. Well, if it’s positive as i don’t want to discourage the girl. :D

      Sent at the end of a thread to not get in the way of important (and probable! LOL) stuff, like Lebron on the Knicks or, even better, Lavine for Randle and Fournier (this one would get Karnisovas fired on the spot!).

    56. Watched most of the Sivers game. I don’t know what the hell Morey should do.

      Miami is a fun place to visit but it’s a floodplain. Don’t see the long term plan there unless you are sure global warming isn’t real.

      And as for the Mavs, slept through it all, but good to see Reggie and Frank had good shifts. Really nice line for Reggie.

      So many uncompetitive games this round after a pretty spectacular first round for the most part.

    57. She’s good, cyber. So weird to listen to non-English music.

      On a draft note, there’s been very little mention of Johnny Davis. Is he the guy that is pushed out of the top 10 by rising stock guys?

      The other guy that gets very little mention is AJ Griffin.

      I’m not crazy about either one, but if they drop to 11 is anyone here excited by the prospect of taking either guy?

    58. I could live in Miami from December to March, but you can have it the rest of the year. And that’s only because I love the beach, golf, and surf/bay fishing. It doesn’t compare to NYC in most cultural regards.

    59. miami >>>>>> new york city

      Geo this might be the first and only thing you ever said that made me mad at you.

    60. The right time in the win curve is not just about having your #1 option. It’s about being close enough to contention to empty the war chest for the final piece.

      Exactly. They emptied their war chest when they were one player away. That’s what they did.

      If they had him and 14 kids from the local park and he says trade a bunch of picks for Holiday you do it and worry about the implications later.

      I completely disagree. If you make a bad trade too early in the win curve to make your star happy, the next trade you’re gonna make is sending your star to the Lakers.

    61. It does not apply in his case because you can’t afford to lose him even if it sets you back in terms of what you what you would ideally like to do.

      If I understand you correctly, what you are saying is that Giannis’ pending free agency was the reason they emptied their war chest, not bc they had a perfect understanding of the win curve.

      I think you are right. But that doesn’t change much. Bucks’ ownership were teetering on the brink of being content as runner-ups. And Giannis levered his free agency to compel them to be bold. That’s true. But whether they did it because they knew it was the right time or bc Giannis forced them to do it, they still did it at the right time. It is still a perfect example of the win curve.

    Leave a Reply