Knicks Morning News (2022.05.08)

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    Reports suggest these 2 teams could steal Jalen Brunson from Knicks  Daily Knicks

  • Knicks Star Tweets A Bold Take About The Bucks During Game 3 – Sports Illustrated
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  • Tyus Jones’ career year could make him Knicks’ Jalen Brunson backup plan – New York Post
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    Tyus Jones’ career year could make him Knicks’ Jalen Brunson backup plan  New York Post

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  • Three Technique barrels down final stretch to win Knicks Go Stakes – NBC Sports
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  • Analyzing B/R’s suggested Cavs trade with Knicks – King James Gospel
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  • Pass or Pursue: Top 10 NBA point guard 2022 free agent targets – Daily Knicks
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    1. JUST.
      GIVE.
      QUICKLEY.
      A CHANCE!

      That’s it.

      That’s the comment

    2. So on Friday I announced to my staff that I’m retiring at the end of this school year (technically in early Sept.) Very emotional.

    3. Yeah, Totes, I have no doubt that IQ is in a great place for taking the next step. He showed so much in the last 20 games or so and now he has a full off-season to work on stuff. What I found particularly impressive is that he really worked hard on conquering his fear of going all the way to the rim, which was a major hole in his game coming out of college and in his rookie year. He still has a long way to go in that regard, but it’s a very promising development.

    4. Congrats Z Man and enjoy your 2nd chapter!

      Question- and I’m sure this has been discussed before and I just missed, so I apologize if that’s the case. But I’ve been seeing alot of mocks predicting that Daniels or Sochan should be available around 11, and I’m intrigued by Sochan’s defense. How do we feel about Sochan here? And is he a better home run swing than Daniels?

    5. Sochan’s value to us is directly related to solving the Randle/Obi conundrum. Frankly I see a more defensively oriented version of Obi, although he might have more in common with Scottie Barnes. I’m not convinced yet that he would be the BPA regardless of position, so my inclination would be to go with more of a scorer. But he’s definitely intriguing and I could be talked into him. One thing is for sure, I like him way more than Eason.

    6. Z-man:
      Sochan’s value to us is directly related to solving the Randle/Obi conundrum. Frankly I see a more defensively oriented version of Obi, although he might have more in common with Scottie Barnes. I’m not convinced yet that he would be the BPA regardless of position, so my inclination would be to go with more of a scorer. But he’s definitely intriguing and I could be talked into him. One thing is for sure, I like him way more than Eason.

      I was kinda thinkin the same thing. I know it doesn’t mean as much as it would in say, the NFL- but I do think 11 is a little high for a jack of all trades/master of none. But..Toronto did take Barnes high and it turned out awesome for them. But I definitely would like him backing up Obi, should we move Randle. A 2nd unit of Rose/Grimes/Reddish/Sochan/Sims would be fun

    7. I don’t like Sochan at all. He looks solid and switchable on defense, but I don’t know what you do with him on offense. Play him at center or give up on spacing?

    8. As to Daniels, I like him as well, but G-Legue play is so tough to gauge. My biggest concern is that he’s lacking NBA-level burst.

      There’s just such a premium on shooting these days. I’d tend to focus on the best shooter who has the best tools available beyond shooting at #11.

    9. Ultimately, even with the quibbles re: trading out of picks, and even allowing for some quibbling about whether a guy would have been available later and they should have taken someone else and risked missing out (e.g. Bane vs. IQ) this FO has earned some trust in identifying value candidates at given draft slots. The most questionable pick they’ve made in retrospect is Obi at #8, and even he is looking better now.

      So I am convinced that the FO is going to do a thorough job of scouting and that they will either make a “high floor, high ceiling” pick at #11 or trade down and fill positions of need with “solid” picks. I totally respect that some do not share this optimism, not to mention that even the best FOs whiff on occasion.

      Of course, there’s a distinct possibility that Rose trades this pick in a package for an established player. That would probably disappoint me, but obviously it will depend on the nature of the deal. No more Cam Reddish-like moves, please!

    10. Ingmarrrr:
      Good job, Z-Man. Now you’ll have time to post a little.

      lol some might argue that my de facto retirement took place years ago…

    11. I didn’t weigh in on tnfh’s take on Branham yesterday, but he’s more along the lines of who I think we should be looking at. He looks very solid at #11 based on highlights, but whether or not to take him might depend on things we aren’t privy to, like an analysis of his court awareness, work ethic, etc. But the dude can definitely shoot.

      I’m sensing that this draft is going to be deeper than some have suggested. There’s lots of guys with clear NBA skills but a critical flaw or two that need to be worked out.

    12. First of all, congrats Z-Man!

      There’s just such a premium on shooting these days. I’d tend to focus on the best shooter who has the best tools available beyond shooting at #11.

      Normally I’d say “go BPA” but the Knicks really do need shooting. So a shooter with some good secondary skills is the kind of guy I’m hoping for at 11.

    13. Congrats Z-Man. For all you’ve unveiled about your work, you had a very good career, so now it’s time to chill and enjoy life. I hope it suits you. :)
      Unless of course, you have to get back from retirement because Dolan came calling to offer you a job as a Knicks advisor, like the Lakers did with Phil. LOL

    14. cybersoze:
      Congrats Z-Man. For all you’ve unveiled about your work, you had a very good career, so now it’s time to chill and enjoy life. I hope it suits you. :)
      Unless of course, you have to get back from retirement because Dolan came calling to offer you a job as a Knicks advisor, like the Lakers did with Phil. LOL

      lol I couldn’t be worse in that role than those who have occupied it!

      I should clarify to all that I will still need to work…someone’s gotta pay back those kiddie college loans! But something way down on the ISU (International Stress Units) scale!

    15. Thanks JK!

      On another note, When I was at a small college in upstate NY in the mid-’70s we had tons of great concerts (Bruce Springsteen, Grateful Dead, Santana, Billy Joel, Fleetwood Mac, etc.). One of the smaller ones was Billy Cobham right after he produced his Spectrum album. I has a long road trip this weekend and listened to it for the first time in years. Are you familiar with that album and Cobham’s fusion jazz work, and if yes, where does he stack up for you among the great drummers? Rolling Stone had him ranked at #45, which seems absurd to me…

    16. The DoE is going to hang a Z from the rafters of your school’s gym. I had a birdseye view of just how difficult a job being an NYC principal is. I am sure you will have a great second act to follow.

    17. Oh yeah, I like that Spectrum album a lot, I have long owned it on vinyl. I’m not really a jazz expert, I have my stuff I like, but I know that record is revered by real jazz heads. It’s a fusion classic.

      I’m a big fan of Miles Davis’ “Jack Johnson” album, and that’s Billy Cobham playing buttkicking drums on that. Insane great playing by his Return To Forever bandmate John McLaughlin on that as well. John McLaughlin is one of my favorite guitarists ever regardless of genre.

    18. Don’t think Sochan has anywhere near the ball skills of Barnes. Barnes was the point guard and primary initiator for FSU. Sochan was more of an energy guy and interior finisher.

      Sochan was also pretty dirty in Baylor’s elimination game in the tournament. I suppose one game doesn’t matter much, but wasn’t a great look.

    19. Thanks for asking, Z-Man. Right now I’m just waiting for the next surgery and kind of limited in what I can do physically. But I should come out of this okay in the end.

    20. abk:

      Sochan was also pretty dirty in Baylor’s elimination game in the tournament. I suppose one game doesn’t matter much, but wasn’t a great look.

      That stuff is hard to read. Rodman, Draymond, Smart, etc. all have a “dirty” streak…yet it works (worked) to their advantage (well except for Draymond getting thrown out of that finals game).

    21. z-man it sucks that your much of your swan song years had to come with the world being what the world has been post feb 2020. i’m sure the school is far better off for you having stayed on to go through it, tho. unfortunately, as far as knickerblogger goes, i’m afraid i don’t see your heroic ascendance into retirement as improving your basketball takes. as strat’s philosopher-king hero should have tweeted instead, what doesn’t kill you makes you wronger.

    22. ptmilo: what doesn’t kill you makes you wronger

      hahaha… I was reading the post and thinking something’s wrong, I’m almost at the end and there’s buildup but no joke, what’s going on.

    23. “That stuff is hard to read. Rodman, Draymond, Smart, etc. all have a “dirty” streak…yet it works (worked) to their advantage (well except for Draymond getting thrown out of that finals game).”

      Yeah good point. He does fit the prototype of a guy who could use that to his advantage.

    24. I have no real opinion on Sharpe but the idea of being able to trade up for the #1 rated prospect a year ago from 11 is an oppurtunity that doenst come around often. Macri has been over it a few times in his podcast and would be the only true potential home run move we could make in the draft.

      Aside from that I like the tall rangy wings like Tari/Daniels and Mathurin if we make our standard pick at 11.

    25. ptmilo: z-man it sucks that your much of your swan song years had to come with the world being what the world has been post feb 2020. i’m sure the school is far better off for you having stayed on to go through it, tho.

      Thanks pt, the pandemic sucked for all of us. But I must also say that there was great validation and fulfilment in the opportunity to confirm what I had always believed about my school and our team of educators…that we were as well prepared to serve our families under the circumstances as any school anywhere. Full disclosure, our teachers and my AP bore the brunt of the deprivations, stress, and workload and I played largely a supporting role, frankly getting far more credit than I deserved. That said, one thing I will take credit for is relentlessly shielding my staff from senseless DOE directives that would have compromised their personal/family safety, mental health, and efficacy, often at the risk of disciplinary action or union grievances against me. Although many of our non-aligned initiatives and pivots could have been shot down by a single parent or staff complaint, it never happened. (Of course, it’s easier to take those risks when you are eligible to walk away on a moment’s notice!)

      ptmilo: unfortunately, as far as knickerblogger goes, i’m afraid i don’t see your heroic ascendance into retirement as improving your basketball takes.

      Someone has to be pt’s straight man, happy to continue doing my share to oblige…

      ptmilo: as strat’s philosopher-king hero should have tweeted instead, what doesn’t kill you makes you wronger.

      I see you know my wife…

    26. Z-man: I see you know my wife…

      Well, I can’t blame her for being right, given your track record. Happy retirement, old man. I’m still only buying you ONE Lagavulin.

    27. awwww glad to hear you’re getting ready to take more time for yourself and loved ones…enjoy z-man :)

    28. Everyday it’s something
      Hits me all so cold
      Find me sittin’ by myself
      No excuses, then I know

      i’m not sure if it’s more bane or boon that i rarely if ever get bored or lonely…man but i abhor the holidays…no doubt my grumpy old self is a joy to be around during them…with perpetual grimace/sneer/disdain painted on my face…

      medication time, then time to get going…ugh…

    29. Alan:
      Thanks for asking, Z-Man. Right now I’m just waiting for the next surgery and kind of limited in what I can do physically. But I should come out of this okay in the end.

      Godspeed Alan.

      I don’t know you personally, but I’m rooting really hard for you. Keep that strong spirit!

    30. Z-man:
      So on Friday I announced to my staff that I’m retiring at the end of this school year (technically in early Sept.) Very emotional.

      Congratulations.

      Enjoy yourself!

      Look on the bright side. I retired primarily for health reasons. I finally got myself feeling well again and the pandemic hit. Maybe your retirement will lead us out of this.

    31. The Suns are shooting a crazy TS% and still down by 12 at halftime? How IS it goink

    32. The Honorable Cock Jowles:
      The Suns are shooting a crazy TS% and still down by 12 at halftime? How IS it goink

      I see the fact that the Mavs can’t possibly be shooting any better from 3 and they are only up 12 as a little scary. But they are doing the right thing strategically. They have the inferior team overall and inferior style when Doncic dominates too much. They might as well launch as many 3s at they can and hope variance (luck) brings them home.

    33. this game kinda sucks? lots of flopping and whining and not enough rotating down. basically a gymboree class if two year olds could mercilessly hunt loopholes like tax accountants.

    34. javie looks like he is one bad crypto trade from taking the william h macy fargo turn

      chris paul popped his six fouls like he was trying leave a friday night summer league game early

    35. I suspect these refs have a bet on the Mavs. It’s either that or a they have a drug problem in the NBA ref ranks. lol

    36. Owen:
      The Finney Smith game. Holy shit. Crowd lost it

      Take it from someone that’s seen a LOT of Mavs games the last couple of years. He’s been underrated around the league for awhile. He was already good, but he gets a little better every year.

    37. i agree that his 6th was a terrible call, but doing the veer in front of brunson bullshit with 4 fouls was just mind numbingly stupid for a basketball genius

    38. *whispers* kinda feels like the Suns should take more threes

    39. If the Mavs somehow win this series (which I still doubt), the most valuable player may be Hardaway. By getting hurt he eliminated the possibility of him shooting them out of a bunch of games. :-)

    40. Haralabob wrote something about Finney Smight, saying he was the most valuable player signed to a free agent contact for the money. I can’t remember what the qualifications were but basically he is awesome at the price. And he is.

      It’s true, Paul did some dumb shit. But that last foul was ridiculous

    41. Feels like a World Cup qualifier in soccer. The flopping really is next level

    42. thenoblefacehumper:
      *whispers* kinda feels like the Suns should take more threes

      Disagree. They were excellent last year and the best team in the NBA this year doing what they do. They take plenty of high quality 3s. There’s no reason to add in trash 3s when they have so many high level mid range shooters and a big man that’s very efficient around the basket against a team without interior defense.

      What they need is the same energy that Dallas is playing with, fair game calling, and Dallas’s 3p% to revert to the mean. They are still a very big favorite to win this series.

    43. It’s pretty wild that Luka is already good enough that him and some guys who can hit some shots is enough on its own to put the fear of god into the best team in basketball

    44. Owen:
      Haralabob wrote something about Finney Smight, saying he was the most valuable player signed to a free agent contact for the money. I can’t remember what the qualifications were but basically he is awesome at the price. And he is.

      He also loved the Bullock signing and said that was a great value too (which I’ve been saying since day 1),

      I wasn’t paying as close attention to this game, but Bullock was HUGE in the last game. He was driving CP3 absolutely nuts with his defense.

    45. thenoblefacehumper:
      It’s pretty wild that Luka is already good enough that him and some guys who can hit some shots is enough on its own to put the fear of god into the best team in basketball

      They upgraded and focused on their D-E-F-E-N-S-E

      Luka was 9-25; 1-10,

    46. Deeefense!!: They upgraded and focused on their D-E-F-E-N-S-E

      Luka was 9-25; 1-10,

      With 11 disgusting, selfish, stat-stuffing assists, because Phoenix’s defense was terrified of him.

    47. Not a single word of praise for Jason Kidd? Maybe he’s the *real* COTY…

    48. Luka shot badly but his fingerprints were all over this win, he keeps forcing some bad shots but he has recognized very well that he can bully Bridges, Booker and Payne specially and he’s taking them with his strength and making the passes. So many of the open 3s Dallas got came from this action, Luka backing down one of those 3 and kicking out, then the rest of the team did a great job rotating the ball and finding open shooters.

      I’ve always liked Finney-Smith and Kleber a lot and they’ve been key players so far this series. The Suns still have the advantage in a normal game where Paul isn’t in foul trouble like this, but it’s a real series now.

    49. Deeefense!!: They upgraded and focused on their D-E-F-E-N-S-E

      Luka was 9-25; 1-10,

      I’ve been assured that they can’t possibly have a good defense without a rim protecting C, so this is obviously false.

    50. Congrats Z-man, can’t wait to get there myself. Why don’t you like Eason?

    51. Wow this has been an ugly game… nobody on Miami can hit a three, nobody outside of Embiid can do anything for the Sixers, a million fouls everywhere, just an overall eyesore of a game.

    52. GHenman:
      Congrats Z-man, can’t wait to get there myself. Why don’t you like Eason?

      Thanks! Re:Eason I just think his shot is very broken and his upside is limited. Sochan just seems much more dynamic and his shot is a bit less broken. But as I said, so long as we have Randle on the roster, neither of these guys excite me.

    53. Deeefense!!: Congratulations.

      Enjoy yourself!

      Look on the bright side.I retired primarily for health reasons.I finally got myself feeling well again and the pandemic hit. Maybe your retirement will lead us out of this.

      Thanks strat, hope you have many better years left to enjoy…

    54. I can’t understand how Philly is trying to defend Butler, giving him one on ones inside the arc on every single possession. Nobody else on the Heat can do anything in this game and they still refuse to double Butler, why the hell.

    55. geo:
      awwww glad to hear you’re getting ready to take more time for yourself and loved ones…enjoy z-man :)

      taking in a knicks game with geo is definitely on the bucket list

    56. I don’t think I’ve ever seen something quite like James Harden in this playoffs. He looked completely washed up through, like, Game 2 of the second round and then suddenly he was, like, “Okay, I’ll be great again.” Like, what the fuck was he doing until now?!?

    57. Bo Nateman:
      The DoE is going to hang a Z from the rafters of your school’s gym. I had a birdseye view of just how difficult a job being an NYC principal is. I am sure you will have a great second act to follow.

      Thanks Bo, when are you hanging it up?

    58. I know right, the harden thing is weird, it’s like he suddenly woke up or something…

      oladipo looks in great shape…

    59. Brian Cronin:
      I don’t think I’ve ever seen something quite like James Harden in this playoffs. He looked completely washed up through, like, Game 2 of the second round and then suddenly he was, like, “Okay, I’ll be great again.” Like, what the fuck was he doing until now?!?

      It really has been wild, he looks like he lost at least a step on some drives, then all of a sudden he hits 4 stepback 3s in the 4th quarter. So, so weird to watch him right now.

    60. anything in particular you’re looking forward to sinking your time in to z-man?

    61. The Honorable Cock Jowles: Well, I can’t blame her for being right, given your track record. Happy retirement, old man. I’m still only buying you ONE Lagavulin.

      So long as neither bleach nor talk of tennis, chess or pizza stones is involved, I’m down.

    62. geo:
      anything in particular you’re looking forward to sinking your time in to z-man?

      It hasn’t really sunk in yet. This year has been particularly stressful (mostly related to student behavior) and will continue to be for the next 7 weeks. Once July rolls around I’ll be able to decompress and think more clearly about that stuff.

    63. watching the post game and heard about ja, that’s too bad…

      they play similar, hopefully ja morant doesn’t experience a similar career path to derrick rose…

    64. The thing that interests me about Philly is that since they spent their depth on getting Harden, they now have an extremely important offseason where Morey has to replace that depth. The Sixers have a superstar center and a burgeoning star in Maxey. So long as Harden is a borderline All-Star, that’s enough top level talent, but they need a stronger support staff. It could just be as simple as using the tax-payer MLE and a couple of interesting veteran minimum guys (Andre Drummond was obviously quite good for them on the vet minimum), but I wonder if Morey has something trickier planned involving Tobias Harris’ bloated contract ahead of re-signing Harden?

    65. Z-man: Thanks Bo, when are you hanging it up?

      I am sem-retired. Tutoring is a way to keep active, work with kids which I really enjoy. I have a pretty diverse roster of students, a few scions, and a 19-year-old member of the Crips, who I am working with to help him pass his learners’ permit test. He better pass or I may not be posting much more!

    66. Bo Nateman: I am sem-retired. Tutoring is a way to keep active, work with kids which I really enjoy. I have a pretty diverse roster of students, a few scions, and a 19-year-old member of the Crips, whoI am working with to help him pass his learners’ permit test. He better pass or I may not be posting much more!

      Sounds like you’re doing some amazing stuff. Yeah, tutoring is definitely an option. doing some leave replacement work, consulting, maybe teaching a college course…all possibilities.

    67. So Kings went with Mike Brown…seems like the retread route is not ideal for a developing team, but he’s a good guy who has been around winning cultures, so whatever.

    68. So Kings went with Mike Brown…seems like the retread route is not ideal for a developing team, but he’s a good guy who has been around winning cultures, so whatever.

      It’s such an odd call. I think Brown is certainly a competent coach, but, like, what the heck is he going to unlock with this Kings team? I guess he’ll have them play better defense?

    69. Look, the other option was Mark Jackson. Mike Brown is the second coming of Pop compared to Mark Jackson.

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