Knicks Morning News (2021.11.04)

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  • Mike Woodson says Knicks will go as far as RJ Barrett’s jump in NBA – Yahoo Sports
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  • Bubba Watson Catches Up With New York Knicks Legend During NBA Game – EssentiallySports
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    NY Knicks: What if Kristaps Porzingas developed into superstar in NYC?  Daily Knicks

  • New York Knicks City Edition Uniforms: Mecca of Basketball – NBA.com
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    87 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2021.11.04)”

    1. November 3, 2021 Brian Cronin

      The Knicks head to Indiana to take on the reeling Pacers.

      This is a great matchup for the Knicks, as the Pacers are a mess right now.

      For those keeping track at home, the Knicks are 5-1 vs. the NBA, and 0-2 vs. Brian.

    2. Hubert: For those keeping track at home, the Knicks are 5-1 vs. the NBA, and 0-2 vs. Brian.

      Curse of the Brianbino?

      But, no. I refuse to accept that. We will win 50 games. I’m going to settle down. We got this.

    3. Glass half-full view: it’s good that we’re losing games like these, because it makes it easier for Thibs to go HAM in practice and film sessions than it would be if kept pulling out wins on nights when we play badly, like in New Orleans. I believe in this coaching staff’s ability to correct some of the defensive issues, and I also believe we have the offensive talent to compensate for some of our new shortcomings (again, see net rating). RJ looks great.

      Glass half-empty view: Randle’s game and body language are frequently very messy this season; it’s one thing if he’s just tired from having a newborn at home, and another if he’s struggling to adjust to the reality that he no longer has to be The Man for this offense. Mitch has flashes of defensive brilliance but on the whole still seems too much potential and not enough results for someone in his fourth season. Fournier and Kemba both seem like willing but limited defenders, and there may be a point past which Thibs can’t scheme to cover for them.

    4. So, as i wasn’t here yesterday it’s probably fitting that i start today early on. ;)
      Yeah, right now Strat is right on the “No Defeeense” moniker, i didn’t envision this and i think Thibs will solve it. Reggie isn’t a DPOY type of player, he can’t be the difference for this mess.
      But hey, looking for the bright side, we’re 5-3 on pace to get to 50 wins at the 80 game mark (sorry, Brian, 56 wins are not on the horizon for now). For the next 8 games, we have: Bucks, home and away, 76ers and Hornets, away. To win one, at least. And then we have the must win games at MSG, against Pacers (revenge!), Cavs, Magic and Rockets. I think we’ll be 5-3 again. What do you guys think?
      5-3 is good, so enjoy and have a good day. :)

    5. Alan: if he’s struggling to adjust to the reality that he no longer has to be The Man for this offense.

      IMO Randle and IQ, in particular, seemed to benefit last year from just shooting (and shooting) until they got into a rhythm. This year, with more offensive weapons, that style doesn’t really make sense. Instead the entire offense has to work consistently, which may be a harder thing to get going than just one guy.

      EDIT: Oh yeah, and DEEEFENSE.

    6. Watched only the last quarter and a half yesterday, didn’t have the stomach to watch the rest this morning, not when I read that we never lead in the whole game.

      We’re a mess and many players need a waking call, for instance I’d like to know when, and against which tailor made opponent, Mitch’s gonna show the talent for which is considered mandatory to pay him a boatload of money.
      And he is not, by far, the only one from which I expect a lot more.

      Well, it’s still early (this will be my refrain until game 20).

      Tonight I’m going to watch Rokas in person, I hope he’ll play more than the usual dozen of minutes or so…

      P.S.
      Before I forget, how much must IQ still suck before riding the fucking pine?

    7. We should be throwing Grimes to the wolves, because if he can develop to be an OK starter, come playoffs time we may need to change Fournier’s role to 6th man. It’ll be hard to have two bad defenders on the backcourt in the playoffs. Just an idea i had, because as i said, i didn’t watch the game.

    8. A bit hard to separate the sky-is-falling inclination of us New York sports fans from real concerns at the moment. Things I am genuinely worried about:

      -This team’s upside is significantly lower than I thought if Immanuel Quickley is gonna have a lower TS% than [redacted]. I’m starting to think with the new rules you’re just not going to see players with reasonably high fTRs who don’t go to the basket at all, which was Quickley’s profile both in college and as a rookie.

      -Our perimeter defense seems genuinely porous enough to make some rotation or scheme changes. We’ve been flamed by basically every half decent perimeter player we’ve faced.

      -Randle was never going to replicate his efficiency on extremely difficult shots from last year. It was ridiculous. I was hoping he could make up for the regression, and maybe even add some efficiency on top of that, by working with our better guards to get some easier shots. Thus far, he hasn’t used our better guard play to his advantage to get many more shots at the basket (small increase in frequency from 16% to 27%, career figure is 38% and has been as high as 55%). I don’t know if he’s just unwilling or is still working on developing a two-man game with our guards.

    9. Ultimately, I think we’re going to be fine, but we need to make some adjustments. IQ’s confidence is shot and he needs to sit for a bit, opening up spot minutes for the more defense-oriented rookies. His minutes going to even a replacement-level player rather than the productivity black hole they’re currently going to would probably have changed the outcome on one or two of our losses. We’re also going to need to find a wing defender at the trade deadline if it turns out that our rookies aren’t ready for rotation minutes. Most everything else (Randle’s adjustments, Kemba and Fournier slotting into the offense better, IQ’s struggles) seems fixable to me. But this team won’t make it past the 2nd round without an extra wing defender in hand (preferably, someone who can force some turnovers.)

    10. Agree with above from TNFH. It would be cool to know what percentage of the fouls IQ drew last year were outside the restricted area. And what Julius’ shooting percentage on tough shots was relative to expectations. He hit so many baseline fadeaways unexpectedly. Rose was a little bit the same way but seems more sustainable.

      I don’t know, if you thought this was a championship team than you are worried but if you thought this was a 43 win team then it feels ok.

      I can’t get Yahoo box scores on mobile anymore, which is strange. But here were things I noticed.

      BOBAN the DESTROYER – What a night for one of my favorite players. 8-10, 17 points, plus 17 in a 1 point win. Must have been exciting. Devin Vassell quietly had a great game on the other side.

      Good win for the Grizz. Nuggets bench looks pretty thin. Brandon Clarke doesn’t play for Memphis. I am almost ready to take the L on him. Give me another year.

      Statement game for Jarrett Allen. 24-17 while Ricky Rubio went 0-7 and was a plus 11. Cody Zeller eaten alive it appears in his 13 minutes.

      Celtics won but Jayson Tatum has been horrible this year and went 4-16 last night.

      Huge night for Demar. That’s working out better than I expected.

      Nic Batum – Very much still in the league. 20 points, 10 shots, one turnover.

      Tyrese had a really nice game. 10 points, 15 t-shots, 7 assists, no turnovers, 4 steals.

      Jordan Poole went off and the Warriors are 6-1.

    11. Yeesh
      From now on, I’m just gonna comment on the negatives. Every time I say something good or post some optimism this season..shit goes haywire and we lose in disheartening fashion. My big mouf! I just touted Mitch- saying that he can be everything Myles Turner is. And boom…Myles Turner goes the freak off!

      So..I’m gonna try this and cross my fingers hoping that this brand of reverse psychology works:

      The starters should be Deuce/Grimes/RJ(he can stay in this attempt because he’s been great)/Obi/Sims. The 2nd unit should be Rose/Fournier/Burks/Knox/Mitch.

      Now let’s go kick the Bucks’ asses! LOL

      Seriously though..I can’t count how many tiles I yelled at the screen for Kemba, Randle, and Quickley to move the ball last night. They dribbled the shit out of the ball. I’m not in panic mode because this team still has to gel. If you ask me..not only are Kemba and Fournier new- but we have a “new” Mitch too. This team will look much better once the gelling happens and Quickley drops the yips. I really think Quickley is trying too hard to impress Thibs because of the extra coaching between the 2. But his start is very alarming. That and our 2 main centers’ health concerns and conditions are the only real things I am worried about. The team will figure out Kemba and Fournier and vice versa. Hopefully 2 straight early losses will accelerate the process a little

    12. Jordan Poole went off and the Warriors are 6-1.

      At this rate, Kerr could win coach of the year.

    13. I hope we don’t continue to be allergic to the G League for our first round picks (like we were with Frank and Knox). I think IQ would benefit from some time there, and either McBride or Grimes deserve a look.

    14. The sixth-man defense last year masked how often the Knicks were giving up uncontested 3PTA that the opposition simply missed. To my untrained eyes, it feels that one of Thibs’ key defensive principles is to pack the paint against penetration, but that ends up generating way too many open shots, especially corner 3s. I remember the theory that was floated last year about how the Knicks knew which shooters to leave open, but that seemed to understate their luck. So some correction was expected even before the change in personnel. Kemba and Fournier have not been as good on rotations as Payton and Bullock, so there’s a cascading effect. Plus, at least based on my eye test, opposing PGs seem to be having a pretty easy time getting into the paint against Kemba, which makes things worse. Knicks opponents are shooting 41 3PTAs per game, third worst in the league (and they are not even hitting them at that high a percentage – .343, exactly league average. That’s really bad. They are defending the rim pretty well (third best opponent FG% from 0-3 feet), but these penetrations are generating an enormous about of open 3PTAs.

    15. Randle’s defense has been especially bad this season. Looks like he is daydreaming out there at times like he is very slow to help his teammates and at other times seems content to give up easy layups and tries to get back the points on offense.

    16. Also, the article about Rose’s son has a video. Besides the fact that it’s adorable to watch a bunch of small children hoist up shots on a 10 foot hoop, I also got a chuckle imagining Thibs trying to coach the blue team.

    17. So here’s a question – next time we play the Pacers do you continue to leave Turner open for 3’s or not? He made a ridiculous 7-10 last night, but I’m inclined to say leave open a career 35% 3 point shooter (which isn’t bad but I think you live with it)

      I’m sure on a given night Carlisle’s game plan isn’t to have Myles Turner attempt 10 3 pointers

    18. If the defense is going to suck anyway, we might as well trot out the Randle/Obi frontcourt and run the floor.

      I like the idea of a Rose/Fournier/ RJ/Obi/Randle lineup, but Thibs will probably never run it.

    19. The ball was moving so slowly for us last night that there were very few open three point shots available. This needs to improve.

    20. Who would have thought RJ would be our best player so far this season. I think most folks expected regression with the new guys. It’s still early, but great to see. Randle needs to take better shots, he’s still forcing too much. And he still doesn’t have a post game that doesn’t end with a step back jumper. Hopefully he can get the 3 ball % up too. Not sustainable for our star PF to be shooting 42% from the field, while our SG is at 49%. If Julius can get more efficient and RJ keeps this up, we’ll be good, even with regression from Kemba and Fournier on 3p %

    21. Agreed with Silky that our problems seem pretty fixable with a rotation tweak or a small trade at the deadline. Just replacing Quickleys 113 minutes of suck with a decent wing defender would solve a lot of problems that we have.

      We drafted Grimes and Mcbride because they were supposedly NBA ready so might be time to use them.

    22. In hind sight if the Knicks knew Kemba would be available I dont think they would’ve added Fournier and would’ve prioritized another wing defender.

    23. Want to make sure we get our daily Frank update in. Last night he was 0-6 2 pts, 4 reb, 1 assist in 16 minutes. I guess the Frank-aissance is back on hold.

    24. Regarding IQ, he is on the hot seat now and I believe has been since draft night, when we drafted 3 guards. They can’t all be in the Knicks long term plans. So far, he isn’t responding well to the challenge. If Grimes turns out to be a better shooting guard, and McBride a better point guard, where does that leave Quickley? Probably an occasional off the bench spark plug shooter at best. That’s not a good look for someone who made the all-rookie second team last year.

      We definitely could use another wing defender. If Quickley continues to falter, Grimes will likely get the first call. If Knox could play defense, this would be a great opportunity for him, but he can’t. Selden seems like a waste of a roster spot. We could easily grab a free agent like Hollis-Jefferson, or Ennis, or even MKG to be a situational wing stopper when needed.

      No need to panic yet, but getting to 50 wins and being a top 6 seed won’t be easy, The only teams in the conference with no shot at the playoffs would be Orlando, Detroit, and probably Cleveland, although they are off to a surprising start.

    25. Former Suns account executive David Bodzin said that in August 2014, Sarver pantsed him in front of more than 60 employees at the team’s ALS Ice Bucket Challenge. A former senior basketball staffer and a former senior marketing employee confirmed this account to ESPN. In the aftermath, Bodzin said, an HR representative smirked and said, “Please don’t sue us for sexual harassment.”

      “I had no idea what to say to that,” Bodzin told ESPN. “What does a 25-year-old say in that situation? They say, ‘OK.’

      “I was shell-shocked. And as I’ve thought about it more, every year that it has gone by that I’ve thought about it, makes me angrier that I didn’t come forward about it. … My power was minimal in that had I said something as just an account executive, I felt that I would have been blacklisted from the industry.”

      A second former HR rep said employees were told not to file complaints and that they shouldn’t come to the HR office, that they should instead meet outside the office: “I would say, ‘Let’s go take a walk. Because if they see you being here, they’re gonna come after you.'” Several employees said they were taking antidepressants and going on medical leave because of the issues they were having with superiors, according to the former rep.

      Added the first former HR rep: “Unfortunately, HR is a place that most people come to, to get refuge from things that go on. You should be able to go there and get some help. [But] it’s sort of a culture of complicity. Which I was a part of. And I hate saying that.”

      There are so many anecdotes about HR being a big cover-up machine. And from my experience with two-faced, company-man HR reps: fuck HR across the board. They will fuck employees sideways to keep their overlords approving their 3% annual raises.

      I read the whole thing — there’s so much dirt in that Sarver piece. What a fucking asshole. Score another for the “fake media,” I…

    26. Good riddance to Sarver! I have never worked anywhere where HR did not shill for management as much as possible.

    27. I will say. Two losses in a row sucks but we’re still 5-3 and it is really refreshing to feel like even if we aren’t as good as we think we could be, we aren’t screwed for the future. This isn’t some “win now” situation where we’d be panicking at being 5-3 (or really, more likely 3-5 with those types of teams). We now that team has no bad contracts/overpays on the books. We know we have some decent young players. RJ is looking nice. Randle might be struggling but he’s our biggest/longest contract and its still not that bad. We got our picks plus the Dallas one in 2023. The cap will be clean soon enough. And the team isn’t bad.

      I have faith we will be better than we’ve shown the last 2 games but even if we aren’t, we aren’t screwed and that is a VERY nice feeling.

    28. swift, I fear that your optimism is not going to jive with a 44-38 finish.

    29. JK47:
      This is like the bizarro version of last year’s team. #3 offense, #25 defense.

      nicks am giv gud efort!!! Nicks am play gud dfens!!!
      -Bizarro Thibs, who always applauds his team, constantly smiles, and splits minutes evenly between his starters and his rookies.

    30. it’s funny how the league has adapted to the space and shoot style, and yet the over-the-hill, battered up, kid developing Warriors are back to dominating, simply by doing it best. Their ball movement is sublime. All the other knockoffs understand the idea, just not the execution.

    31. IQ played better last year with the ball in his hands. The plus/ minus was great with Rose & IQ but IQ’s individual numbers suffered.

      IQ has done more ball handling the last few games and looks a little more comfortable, but his shot still looks broken.

      IQ looks like the early favorite to win the Elfrid Payton Award for Why is Thibs Still Playing Him.

    32. Ha. I mean 5-3 would project us to win right around 50 games. I think I predicted 52?

      Its still early days. The team has loads of offensive talent. We were 500 last year till we went on a huge win strek. Gotta think the team can get better.

    33. I like Turner, but I really don’t think Indy will want to trade him now unless they are hellbent on playing Sabonis at center. Plus, it would probably cost us Mitch and Obi. I’d rather roll with what we have.

    34. here’s one thing that jumps off the page. kemba has a total of 2 assists to mitch in 186 mins together. this might not seem important given how strong our offense has been. but we are worse offensively with those mitch/kemba lineups and -7/100 net. and only 1 of those 2 assists was on a drawn-up play — in which bamba did his occasional thing on the pnr where he doesn’t guard either guy. this is in the context of mitch scoring only 7/36 w kemba, so it’s not like he’s making it up on the back end.

      i’m not trying to place blame for this, bc i don’t really know how to. i suspect it’s some combination of mitch’s reduced explosiveness, kemba not getting to his spots, coaching, and familiarity. mitch and kemba have barely practiced together bc of the foot injury. but one thing that seems obvious from watching is that when anyone except rj runs pnr with mitch, they do not seem to look at the roll as a first-best option as so many of league’s pnr tandems do. 2 ast in 186 mins is crazy. rubio has 17 assists to allen in 170 mins. elf had 21 asts to mitch in 649 min last year, 3.5x the rate!

      i am pretty suspicious of the efficacy of a mitch/kemba lineup where they can’t make good use of the pnr and mitch doesn’t look better defensively than he has to start the year. those lineups aren’t doing well as it is despite hitting 41% from 3. i wouldn’t mind seeing a bunch more rj/mitch pnr action, though then you’d have to wonder whether kemba is really the optimal off-ball pg complement to that lineup given his defensive limitations.

    35. GHenman: Good riddance to Sarver! I have never worked anywhere where HR did not shill for management as much as possible.

      Next stop: MSG and Dolan, please. :D

    36. Randle actually is playing smarter he’s shifted 10% of his total shots from midrange to the basket. His problem is simply missing the midrange shots he does take.

      Randle was very lucky with his midrange shooting last year, the shots that frustrate us this year were as automatic as any midrange shot can be last year.

      This year he’s not only missing midrange shots, he’s making his luck last year look like the central point of the bell curve. He’s further below his career average this year than he was above his career average last year.

      Randle is have a great season. He’s already taking a better distribution of shots, now we just need the percentages to level off.

    37. ***@Donnie Walsh It helps to have Steph Curry on your team!***

      Sure, it helps. But they are back to being the #1 defensive team (as they were in 2015 when their dominance began) and the #1 passing team (as they were in 2015). They weren’t either of those things last year, when Curry was one-man-banding it.

    38. Man, its kind of crazy to think that if the lady who sued The Knicks for sexual harassment back in the day under Isiah had simply bided her time and then just made those accusations public on twitter after 2016, that she would have had a much better chance of taking Dolan down than she did back then going through the legal system.

    39. I have a feeling she was not the only one Swift. Betting on some Dolan skeletons coming out in the next few years.

    40. The only positive thing I have to say is that RJ is probably our best player. I didn’t see that coming for another year or two. I guess Obi’s improvement is a positive also. Other than that, our defense sucks and our offense is probably overrated.

    41. I’d like to remind everybody that Four Factors-wise, our defense is NOT bad because we are allowing the opponent to make too many shots. It is bad because we are giving opponents too many possessions.

      Defensive rebounding and turnovers, we’re not getting a lot of those on the defensive end. The second unit in particular isn’t rebounding worth shit. That’s what needs a’fixin’.

    42. I don’t know. Last night we gave up an endless stream of wide open 3s. I almost switched to “Married At First Sight” I was screaming at the TV so often.

    43. No Deeefense:
      The only positive thing I have to say is that RJ is probably our best player. I didn’t see that coming for another year or two. I guess Obi’s improvement is a positive also.Other than that, our defense sucks and our offense is probably overrated.

      agree with this…not too many other positives other than mitch not doing as many dumb fouls

      JK47:
      Defensive rebounding and turnovers, we’re not getting a lot of those on the defensive end. The second unit in particular isn’t rebounding worth shit. That’s what needs a’fixin’.

      this is why i was suggesting a few nights ago that when taj is healthy (i think he injured his ankle)..we go noel..taj and obi on 2nd unit with burks and rose as guards…maybe not able to stretch the dee given the lack of long distance shooting but it would shore up the rebounding issue…

    44. ptmilo:
      here’s one thing that jumps off the page.kemba has a total of 2 assists to mitch in 186 mins together.this might not seem important given how strong our offense has been.but we are worse offensively with those mitch/kemba lineups and -7/100 net.and only 1 of those 2 assists was on a drawn-up play — in which bamba did his occasional thing on the pnr where he doesn’t guard either guy.this is in the context of mitch scoring only 7/36 w kemba, so it’s not like he’s making it up on the back end.

      i’m not trying to place blame for this, bc i don’t really know how to.i suspect it’s some combination of mitch’s reduced explosiveness, kemba not getting to his spots, coaching, and familiarity.mitch and kemba have barely practiced together bc of the foot injury.but one thing that seems obvious from watching is that when anyone except rj runs pnr with mitch, they do not seem to look at the roll as a first-best option as so many of league’s pnr tandems do.2 ast in 186 mins is crazy.rubio has 17 assists to allen in 170 mins. elf had 21 asts to mitch in 649 min last year, 3.5x the rate!

      i am pretty suspicious of the efficacy of a mitch/kemba lineup where they can’t make good use of the pnr and mitch doesn’t look better defensively than he has to start the year. those lineups aren’t doing well as it is despite hitting 41% from 3.i wouldn’t mind seeing a bunch more rj/mitch pnr action, though then you’d have to wonder whether kemba is really the optimal off-ball pg complement to that lineup given his defensive limitations.

      A thousand times this. Routine plays that take advantage of our players’ strengths, where are they? We showed some in pre-season: Randle and E4 working together; DRose lobbing to Obi and Mitch. More please.

    45. > I have never worked anywhere where HR did not shill for management as much as possible.

      I know HR people and for the most part they are good people. But of course they’re not there to help employees, but to protect the company. In theory that should be a two way street. If anyone needs “correcting” it’s reported to HR who then report it to the proper management. It’s what management then does with that info is what gives HR a bad reputation. I’ve heard plenty of stories from HR people who document a whole bunch of stuff, and the people at the top don’t care and don’t want things change. Or are the people who are doing the bad behavior. That’s where the real problem lies. HR is ultimately toothless.

      If people want a group that would help them in situations like these, what they really want is a union.

    46. pepper: we go noel..taj and obi on 2nd unit with burks and rose as guards…maybe not able to stretch the dee given the lack of long distance shooting but it would shore up the rebounding issue…

      Yes. I said similar in recent weeks. And Taj did hit two 3s in pre-season (I think) so there’s hope ;-)

    47. The second unit in particular isn’t rebounding worth shit. That’s what needs a’fixin’.

      it looks like this from just looking at 4 factors, but it’s not a good explanation. just look at lineups with both mitch/kemba (bc i already looked this morning so i have it ) vs all other lineups. mitch/kemba (“starter”) lineups have given up 117/100 (very bad) on 187 mins while allowing a 21.5% orb but a 59% Ts. all other lineups on 207 mins have allowed 104/100 with a 29.5% orb rate but a 51.5% TS. so it looks like it’s a possession story when aggregated but far less so underneath. one additional consistent negative with our starters is our forced turnover rate relative to opponents’ assist rates. i think of this as a sort of risk reward sharpe ratio for defense and it is genuinely terrible for the starting unit.

    48. I don’t know. Last night we gave up an endless stream of wide open 3s. I almost switched to “Married At First Sight” I was screaming at the TV so often.

      hey strat, hope all is well for you and the family…i recently started going down that Curse of Oak Island rabbit hole…pretty fun series with templars and pirates, treasure and booby traps…neat stuff…very interesting to see how modern technology can intersect with archeology…

    49. @Mike K. Good point. Glad to see you back commenting again. I wonder if the improved team will bring back any of the other former regulars?

    50. God I love RJ but I think the discourse is running a little hot right now. He has had 4 nice games in a row (one of which was amazing) after he started really slow through the first 4 games. He is shooting the heck out of the ball but it’s still mainly catch and shoot stuff and he still turns the ball over way too much for somebody who carries very little creativity burden in the offense. He has always passed my personal eye test on defense but BPM has never rated him well and obviously the team results on that end are bad right now. He is making really nice progress but talk of him being the team’s best player seems like it relies on forgetting games 1-4 happened.

    51. I’m back from my first live taste of Rokas.

      It was a marquee matchup between the two best EuroLeague’s teams so far (both came in at 6-1), veteran teams full of former NBA players.

      Milano’s defense is very stingy even for EuroLeague standards (defenses are allowed to be much more physical here) so it was a good test.

      Rokas played 16 minutes, mainly as Calathes’ backup in the PG-main ballhandler role. When he did play off the ball he was used as a decoy and never had a chance to try a shot.
      His two baskets (he was 2-3 and 1-2 on Fts) came from strong left hand penetrations, RJ’s style.
      His right hand is weaker and his handle with it needs work, but he’s an above average passer with very good awareness and court vision (4 AST, a couple very nice).

      He’s stronger than I expected, very aggressive on ball defender with quick hands and a lot of energy but sometimes with a tendency to stay too upright. Not so good away from the ball where he’s prone to lapses.

      He was on the floor during a 14-0 run in the 4th that nearly won the game for Barca, did his part all night and never look overmatched.

      I don’t think he’s ready for a consistent NBA role, not when our rookies can’t find minutes despite IQ’s struggles, but he’s talented and if he grows as expected could be ready for a second unit spot in 2022-2023 after an expanded role with Barca.

    52. RJ has never played this well, even if he cools off its an encouraging sign.

      For perspective, last year RJ scored over 27 points only 3 times, he’s done it twice in the last 3 games.

    53. Song of the day for me, playing on repeat for quite a while… :)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbie1qfu52c
      Check it out, Geo. And whoever more wants to know what i am listen to. :D

      nice soze, that’s really good stuff, love the tone of both robin’s and anais’ voice…i enjoyed it a lot, and yes, i’m on about my 3rd time looping it :)

      oh my goodness, you have me jonesing sooooo badly for some live music…

      so jk, when you gonna do a little concert in the park (whatever park is close by you), so all us kbers in the area can hang a bit and listen to you play…

    54. geo: so jk, when you gonna do a little concert in the park (whatever park is close by you), so all us kbers in the area can hang a bit and listen to you play…

      That’s a wonderful idea, but don’t forget to live stream it for KBers around the world… Portugal, Spain, Italy, Slovenia, Greece, Israel, Brazil, China… and probably more that i’m not aware of… basically we’re everywhere! :)

    55. I’m not sure why I’m bringing this up other than the Knicks are shooting more 3s, but is anyone besides me not enjoying basketball as much in general because of all the 3s every night in every game? Teams are partially probably trying to reduce the variance of taking 3s by taking even more of them, but it’s starting to make the game less watchable for me. I’m starting to miss the mix of styles and matchups. Practically every game comes down to hit more 3s that night.

    56. Geo,

      Thanks for asking about family etc.. This was the first week in just under 3 years that my health was good (I’m off all meds). My recent tests all came back clean too, my mother and brother are doing fine, and I don’t have some other major issue to deal with. This is Breeders Cup weekend. I’m going to be gambling like a lunatic. I’ll probably need my meds again by Sunday. Haha

      I never watched Curse of Oak Island, but I’m known to watch all sorts of crazy things looking for diversions. Maybe I’ll try that one.

      I hope you are doing well too.

    57. Heat got destroyed at home by the Celtics and the Hawks got whooped at home by the Jazz playing without Donovan Mitchell.

    58. hey strat, it’s amazing the value that health gains when it’s something not to be taken for granted…to feel healthy and happy, even for just moments of a day…

      it’s surprising the wellness of being that can occur just knowing that those you care for are doing well…it can definitely cause one of those “exhale” moments…

      one of my dreams is to spend an afternoon at the track with you watching the horses run :)

    59. BigBlueAL:
      Heat got destroyed at home by the Celtics and the Hawks got whooped at home by the Jazz playing without Donovan Mitchell.

      Trae Young is off to a terrible start this season, after 9 games his TS is at .512

      I wonder if the new foul rules have anything to do with it?

    60. In hind sight if the Knicks knew Kemba would be available I dont think they would’ve added Fournier and would’ve prioritized another wing defender.

      Agreed, but that’s the other question, what would this team look like had Kemba not fallen into their laps?

    61. I love Anthony Edwards AND crunchy peanut butter.

      When have we ever run enough pnr for Mitch?

      Strat, I am enjoying this NBA season more than almost any I can think of because the Knicks aren’t dogshit. Also, it feels like there is an actual semblance of parity.

    62. ***is anyone besides me not enjoying basketball as much in general because of all the 3s every night in every game?***

      I really don’t understand how a person, especially you Strat, can watch the Green/Curry/Kerr Warriors, even in their mid-life incarnation of today, and complain about the NBA product. Sure, they are to blame for the league shooting a lot of 3s, but the ball movement (and the deeefense) is truly beautiful to watch. Watching them play and longing for the old days of tall guys backing other tall guys down is like being gifted a Tesla and longing for the old days of paying for gas and getting oil changes every 3000 miles.

    63. Flying to Portland, ME for a wedding, layover in Miami…. for some reason nobody wants to fly from Miami to Maine in November

    64. Known as an in-your-face tenacious defender myself lol, I am enjoying the return to that style of basketball without all the ridiculous flailing and shennanigans going around screens. It’s not helping the Knicks right now but it’s way better basketball. The 3’s are still raining down too much for me, I love the aesthetics of the midrange and low post game, but definitely much improved. The elimination of ref’s reviews is also helping.

    65. I don’t mind all of the 3’s when its a team like the warriors, who have great shooters and beautiful ball movement. But when crappy teams try to emulate that style and it leads to blow out games, I get cranky.

      What I haven’t liked in the recent years is the foul baiting by offensive players and the fact that defenses aren’t even allowed to breathe on dudes anymore without getting whistled. I think in the rush to emphasize offense, the NBA went too far in that direction. So I really LIKE the new rule changes that don’t let dudes like Harden shoot 80 free throws a game by baiting for fouls.

      I don’t long for the days of games where both teams scored 80 points a game but I think balance is key. I want good offense and good defense to be rewarded. Defenses shouldn’t be allowed to drape themselves on players but also shouldn’t get whistled just for grazing a guy.

    66. For me, too, too much of anything makes it less enjoyable. When the run and gun Suns burst onto the scene it was so exciting to watch them score 40 points a in quarter raining 3’s cause it hadn’t really been done before and they had a wizard PG with Nash running the show. It was exciting. But now EVERY team plays that way and I do miss really good post up moves by big men or guys who can destroy in the mid range. Variety is the spice of life and it makes for more interesting basketball when not everyone is playing the same way. So I get misty eyed when I see a big man with beautiful foot work, post up a fool and score on them. Melo’s midrange jab stepping got old but when he was in his prime and was really good, it was a beautiful thing to watch when he had it going cause no one could stop him.

      And in the playoffs the 3’s aren’t as easy to come by so the midrange comes up more but players aren’t as good as it as they once were.

      I don’t know what the solution is because statistically the 3 is a more efficient shot. So I get why teams take a lot of them now.

    67. swiftandabundant:
      I don’t mind all of the 3’s when its a team like the warriors, who have great shooters and beautiful ball movement. But when crappy teams try to emulate that style and it leads to blow out games, I get cranky.

      What I haven’t liked in the recent years is the foul baiting by offensive players and the fact that defenses aren’t even allowed to breathe on dudes anymore without getting whistled. I think in the rush to emphasize offense, the NBA went too far in that direction. So I really LIKE the new rule changes that don’t let dudes like Harden shoot 80 free throws a game by baiting for fouls.

      I don’t long for the days of games where both teams scored 80 points a game but I think balance is key. I want good offense and good defense to be rewarded. Defenses shouldn’t be allowed to drape themselves on players but also shouldn’t get whistled just for grazing a guy.

      Exactly. I’d like to see the 3pt% leaguewide come down to the point where strong midrange looks were considered to be reasonably efficient. I also would like to see guys like Ayton, Bam, Wiseman, Mobley, etc. operate in the low and high post. I remember how great Sheed was as a post player but then he started doing the stretch 4 thing and was much less efficient/interesting.

    68. I was watching 1993 game 5 Seattle vs. Utah on NBATV, man were those games fun to watch. Stocton vs. Payton, Malone vs. Kemp, both teams with 3-pt specialists, including Perkins doing the stretch-5 thing, Eddie Johnson killing it in the midrange…that was the brand of basketball I really liked…

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