Knicks Morning News (2021.10.08)

  • Can the Knicks Keep Up With a Deeper Celtics Team? – The Knicks Wall
    [theknickswall.com] — Friday, October 8, 2021 6:48:48 AM

    Can the Knicks Keep Up With a Deeper Celtics Team?  The Knicks Wall

  • Knicks, Devils and Rangers games still off Comcast as cable giant fights with MSG Networks – Asbury Park Press
    [www.app.com] — Friday, October 8, 2021 5:02:40 AM

    Knicks, Devils and Rangers games still off Comcast as cable giant fights with MSG Networks  Asbury Park Press

  • Knicks’ Toppin has a new look and a new attitude – Newsday
    [www.newsday.com] — Friday, October 8, 2021 1:19:24 AM

    Knicks’ Toppin has a new look and a new attitude  Newsday

  • Nets say Kyrie Irving ineligible to play in home preseason game – NBA.com
    [www.nba.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:53:44 PM

    Nets say Kyrie Irving ineligible to play in home preseason game  NBA.com

  • Knicks’ Evan Fournier has new appreciation for coach Tom Thibodeau – New York Post
    [nypost.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 10:43:00 PM

    Knicks’ Evan Fournier has new appreciation for coach Tom Thibodeau  New York Post

  • Knicks Draft and Stash Guard is Putting on ‘A Show’ Overseas – Heavy.com
    [heavy.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 9:30:00 PM

    Knicks Draft and Stash Guard is Putting on ‘A Show’ Overseas  Heavy.com

  • Versatile Alec Burks back to give Knicks punch off the bench – New York Post
    [nypost.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 9:12:00 PM

    Versatile Alec Burks back to give Knicks punch off the bench  New York Post

  • Bradley Beal trade makes less sense now for Knicks – New York Daily News
    [www.nydailynews.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 4:17:00 PM

    Bradley Beal trade makes less sense now for Knicks  New York Daily News

  • The eternal sunshine of RJ Barrett’s spotless game – Posting and Toasting
    [www.postingandtoasting.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 2:22:11 PM

    The eternal sunshine of RJ Barrett’s spotless game  Posting and Toasting

  • Los Angeles joins New York, San Francisco with strict vaccine mandate, although it won’t affect Staples Center – ESPN
    [www.espn.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 2:02:15 PM

    Los Angeles joins New York, San Francisco with strict vaccine mandate, although it won’t affect Staples Center  ESPN

  • Knicks Injury Update: Mitchell Robinson cleared for some contact – Empire Sports Media
    [empiresportsmedia.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 2:00:00 PM

    Knicks Injury Update: Mitchell Robinson cleared for some contact  Empire Sports Media

  • Knicks? Giants? Rangers? What has you hyped for the fall sports season? – New York Post
    [nypost.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:47:00 AM

    Knicks? Giants? Rangers? What has you hyped for the fall sports season?  New York Post

  • The Long Two: Can Jordan Poole make the leap and can the Knicks run it back? – FanSided
    [fansided.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 10:55:00 AM

    The Long Two: Can Jordan Poole make the leap and can the Knicks run it back?  FanSided

  • New York Notes: Nets, Thomas, Irving, Knicks – hoopsrumors.com
    [www.hoopsrumors.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 10:30:00 AM

    New York Notes: Nets, Thomas, Irving, Knicks  hoopsrumors.com

  • New York Knicks: 1 Impressive stat from each rookie – Daily Knicks
    [dailyknicks.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 10:00:00 AM

    New York Knicks: 1 Impressive stat from each rookie  Daily Knicks

  • Kemba Walker scouting report from Earl Monroe, Tiny Archibald – New York Post
    [nypost.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 8:20:00 AM

    Kemba Walker scouting report from Earl Monroe, Tiny Archibald  New York Post

  • Knicks’ Immanuel Quickley is quietly developing essential point guard traits – Empire Sports Media
    [empiresportsmedia.com] — Thursday, October 7, 2021 8:00:21 AM

    Knicks’ Immanuel Quickley is quietly developing essential point guard traits  Empire Sports Media

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    101 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2021.10.08)”

    1. Can the Knicks Keep Up With a Deeper Celtics Team? – The Knicks Wall

      Say what? :O
      Apparently Juancho Hernangomez is a “stud” (!?), and the 2nd unit backcourt of Schroder/Richardson is “bound to stymie opposing backcourts defensively with their combined aggression and activity” (!?) , we’re talking about 2 guys that have a combined -0.6 DBPM !!!
      I like TKW a lot, but stopped reading at that point. Losing Kemba/Fournier and replacing them with Schroder/Richardson not being considered a downgrade is non sense.

    2. For work this morning, I’m watching season 2 episodes of “Twenties,” a BET comedy created by Lena Waithe. I watched the whole first season and somehow didn’t recognize our own Shump Shump in a recurring role as a basketball star one of the leads is trying to develop movies with. Just too used to thinking of him rocking that high-top fade he had when he played for the Knicks.

    3. Berman saying Nets wouldve taken Miles if Cam Thomas didnt fall to them. Always curious what our backup plan would’ve been if Miles didnt fall that far. Ayo Donsomu and Jared Butler were still on the board at the time.

    4. Knicks have some definite upside potential still with RJ, Obi, IQ. Worry to the downside is the long season and the potential for injury to Rose and Kemba. They could outperform the 43 for sure.

    5. Berman saying Nets wouldve taken Miles if Cam Thomas didnt fall to them. Always curious what our backup plan would’ve been if Miles didnt fall that far. Ayo Donsomu and Jared Butler were still on the board at the time.

      I think that’s why we ultimately traded 32 for 34+36, and interesting that they chose Rokas first. I assume they knew they liked Rokas, McBride, and Butler, and there was a little bit reported that they had had Dosomnu in for workouts before also. So even if Miles gets taken at 33 or 35, they still had multiple possibilities at 36.

      That really was a great trade – talk about good value.

    6. Whoever on this site is actually Abe Beame (Eternal Sunshine story above), my compliments. I had a steady grin reading through that.

    7. That was a solid take. Really captured the middlebrow quality of RJ at the moment.

      I like RJ but as I have said many times I don’t think he is ever going to be a true max contract worthy guy in the league.

      Would I want him on my team at a much lesser price? Sure.

      If had to set the over/under on his career right now, just setting aside name recognition, I think I’d probably go with Thaddeus Young as my benchmark and narrowly take the under.

    8. @FredKatz
      Julius Randle (personal reasons) is OUT for tomorrow’s game against the Wizards, Tom Thibodeau says.

      Obi starting most likely

    9. from the files of – I shit you not

      sitting in ontario intl yesterday with mom getting ready to head up to visit sis and monterey (yes, the place is most definitely a part of my family too), was in a conversation with a woman heading back to Nashville and she let us know her husband (age 82) had a bad reaction and died shortly after receiving the moderna vacine…

    10. geo:
      from the files of – I shit you not

      sitting in ontario intl yesterday with mom getting ready to head up to visit sis and monterey (yes, the place is most definitely a part of my family too), was in a conversation with a woman heading back to Nashville and she let us know her husband (age 82) had a bad reaction and died shortly after receiving the moderna vacine…

      I’ve read reports that THOUSANDS of cases like that exist in the VAERS database (around 7k). The average age I saw was 74. I think it was reported that about 10% of the deaths were within 24 hours and 20%-30% were within 48 hours.

      The rebuttal has basically been “We reviewed these cases and there is no evidence tying any of these deaths to the vaccine”. Most of these people were very old and had many comorbidities. So from a population like that, when you are vaccinating millions of them, some of them are going to randomly die soon after vaccination, but there is no causation.

      What the authorities are saying is probably mostly true. But when the volume of deaths is THAT high and it’s a new vaccine that was rushed to market, imo the onus should be on proving there is NO LINK and not on proving there is a link. How about more autopsies? There should be ways to study “the percentage of people of X age, with Y comorbidities, that are expected to die with A,B,C days” and compare that to vaccinated.

      Also, when a lot of elderly people were dying in nursing homes, many had multiple comorbidities. They were also counted as Covid deaths even if the comorbidities were listed for stats purposes.

      Isn’t it possible that when you are that old and/or that sick, you are basically standing on a banana peel and the stress of either Covid or the vaccine is too much for your system? It’s like a push and then you fall. We should know about that.

    11. geo:
      from the files of – I shit you not

      sitting in ontario intl yesterday with mom getting ready to head up to visit sis and monterey (yes, the place is most definitely a part of my family too), was in a conversation with a woman heading back to Nashville and she let us know her husband (age 82) had a bad reaction and died shortly after receiving the moderna vacine…

      Geo, don’t you know that questioning the settled science is heresy?

    12. ***Geo, don’t you know that questioning the settled science is heresy?***

      He’s not. He’s passing on a story about a woman in Tennessee who believes something.

      Like the way Fox News passed on a story today about a woman in Colorado who believes that God doesn’t want her to take the covid vaccine because it’s made out of aborted babies, but also believes that God DOES want her to replace the organs that he made especially for her.

    13. Sounds like Randle’s wife may be giving birth any second now. Excited to see Obi get extended minutes with the starting unit. Thibs also said Knox will play more as a result. Win some, lose some.

    14. News flash: the vaccine does not grant immortality.

      There have been 1.7 billion doses of Covid vaccines administered worldwide, and we’re talking about “several thousand” deaths. You don’t need a spreadsheet to figure out that a good number of those were flat out coincidental.

      I always know a conversation has gone completely off the rails when somebody starts talking about VAERS. Anybody can enter anything into VAERS, it’s all unverified and none of it has to prove any causation.

      The “7,000 pEoPlE dIeD fRoM tHe VaCcInE” take is a
      common one for anti-vax types. My anti-vax ex-girlfriend throws this one around on Facebook all the time. She saw it on VAERS! Her very most favorite website.

    15. one of the more “peculiar” aspects of my early army stuff was learning about how to react after a nuclear, biological or chemical attack…

      part of the process was that once you believed that whatever agent had been used had been neutralized or dissipated you had to chose one soldier in the unit to remove their mask and gear to “test” the air…

      it’s like vehicle manufacturers’ risk assessment with some deadly car defect…recall versus paying off claims and lawsuits…

      it’s cold and calculated…perhaps neccessary…tough though to think of having to pay a price with someone’s life…

      how much life is a fair price to pay for the greater good…

    16. I’d gladly die a sudden death from a vaccine reaction if it would stop me from ever reading another one of these threads, but I also think there’s a good chance that bobneptune and I will be Hell’s premier morning talk-radio hosts together for the rest of eternity

    17. Since we’ve already gone off the rails (that’s probably the first time I’m seriously annoyed by a Geo post), I’ll just highlight why I think the author of the Barrett article is a regular on this site:

      “I think the Knicks fans frothing from their mouths bemoaning his lack of national love and respect have gone too far in the other direction, and are akin to people telling you, “You know you can still get COVID even if you got the vaccine, RIGHT?” as they claim RJ is a superstar hiding in plain sight.”

      To turn it back to basketball for a brief moment, I actually think RJ will be better than the author supposes (the DeRozan comp feels most accurate, even if they have somewhat different games). But unless he takes a monster leap — not impossible to imagine, I guess — as the author suggests he’ll always be underappreciated because his game is likely not going to be transcendent in any particular way.

    18. sorry raven, I was a bit envious of your zoonotic reference and felt compelled to say something…even if it was a day too late…

      yeah, I enjoyed abe beame’s writing, a little excessive and indulgent in the writing, like whip cream on top of whip cream…

      i enjoy that kind of writing though, it’s fun…

    19. Raven: I actually think RJ will be better than the author supposes (the DeRozan comp feels most accurate, even if they have somewhat different games).

      It’s a very good article, thanks for the tip. And yeah, i think DeRozan with good defense might be what we’re looking at for RJ. If RJ can be 2x All-NBA and 4x All-Star, like DeRozan, it’ll be amazing.

    20. Hahaha Raven, I was thinking the Wire reference might have been what made you think it.

      JK47, I think the number on vaccine does is much much higher, over 6 billion, although perhaps you were just talking about the Pfizer and Moderna shots. Makes your point stronger.

      A long time ago I did a research project on the history of the National Vaccine Injury Compensation program so I absolutely know better than to wade into these waters. So I won’t do so any further except to say, well, nothing, which is what we all should try to do for the good of the board.

    21. These vaccine discussions are fantastic – No More Arguing about Frank!

      Would like to see McBride and Grimes get more burn in preseason action. Unless they’re auditioning him for a trade, less Knox is always a good thing for me.

    22. Early Bird: Flying into DC for a wedding, should I skip it to watch the Knicks?

      Admit it, EB, it’s your wedding and you’re looking for excuses to skip it, right? LOL

    23. The Honorable Cock Jowles:
      but I also think there’s a good chance that bobneptune and I will be Hell’s premier morning talk-radio hosts together for the rest of eternity

      This would make for great TV. Maybe Alan can hook you up with someone at Netflix, Apple, or Hulu.
      ( John Voight could play Bob Neptune)

    24. A fourth and fifth Scandinavian country halted Moderna distribution today, including one entirely (rather than to only U-30s). The nation and government of Iceland (*) have today apparently therefore joined the ranks of the “anti-vaxxers.”

      (*) “The Chief Epidemiologist has decided that the Moderna vaccine against Covid-19 will not be used in Iceland while further information is obtained on the safety of the vaccine during booster vaccinations.”

    25. I deal with this shit every day. Some people will not believe you, no matter what you say. They’re confidently skeptical of all authority. The vaccine is safe? *rolls eyes* You don’t know the truth, do you? They are so skeptical, that they believe it is possible that everyone is flat out lying about this. And they’re so confident, that they can’t realize any yutz can write something on the VAERS website, and they’d rather believe that one person, than literally everyone in the scientific and medical establishment. They don’t realize the level of massive and successful coverup there would have to be here. The more you argue, the more stubborn they become.

    26. Ironically if Trump had won the election we probably would have a higher vaccine penetration rate in the US because you know that dude would have taken all the credit in the world making them.

      THANKS O’BIDEN!

    27. The VAERS database is essentially useless. That’s true. What’s also true is that other than the one Pfizer vaccine for initial, not booster, use, none of the vaccines in circulation have been judged “safe” under the normal FDA protocols. It’s also true that the evidence coming out of Scandinavia are showing that Moderna might not be. Iceland pulled it from circulation today. That may be from an abundance of caution that will be reversed in the next few days or weeks. It might be permanent. We don’t know.

      It’s also true that the non-Pfizer initial vaccines and boosters very well may eventually be deemed “safe” by the FDA under normal protocols. They distinctly have not been yet.

      Everything else is basically speculation at this point.(*) There’s a cottage industry in the US around the 24/7 shoutfest about it, some of it bordering on cultish, but that shoutfest is silly and should be ignored. I doubt it will be.

      (*) Other than two or three studies about efficacy and waning, including the Nature study discussed yesterday. But those have been covered at some length now.

    28. E, all merc’d out:
      A fourth and fifth Scandinavian country halted Moderna distribution today, including one entirely (rather than to only U-30s).The nation and government of Iceland (*) have today apparently therefore joined the ranks of the “anti-vaxxers.”

      (*) “The Chief Epidemiologist has decided that the Moderna vaccine against Covid-19 will not be used in Iceland while further information is obtained on the safety of the vaccine during booster vaccinations.”

      Do the Scandinavian nations all have a strange affinity to the Broadway show Aladdin?

    29. Another thread where more than half the posts have nothing to do with the Knicks or sports or sports analytics or humor.

      But go on guys, you know you are right and the facts support you!

      PS. Good luck Julius with your upcoming Randle family addition.

    30. On Knicks related matters I wonder if Taj will be starting PF with Julius out or will Obi get the call. Assuming Noel is back and starting.

    31. I had promise myself i wouldn’t be answering anti-vax posts, but to use Iceland as an example for anti-vax stances is more than i can take. Bear in mind that more than 80% of Iceland’s population is fully vaccinated, so to use their case is, how can i say, not very smart?

    32. kevin5318: On Knicks related matters I wonder if Taj will be starting PF with Julius out or will Obi get the call. Assuming Noel is back and starting.

      Sorry Kevin, i had to join covidvaxblogger.net for just ONE post. But now back to Knicks… i think you’re right, i’d put my money on Taj starting and Obi being the backup. But if Obi plays very well, i’d also put my money on his minutes being higher than Taj’s.

    33. Does anyone know which vaccine each knicks player did so we can see the results on each player?

    34. Thanks for the bday wishes, cyber! Decided to take the day off (love being in academia, where you can do that when you don’t have a class to teach) and using it to catch up on the latest at covidvaxblogger. I can’t believe how much Knicks discussion there’s been here on this blog, though–are we really all Knicks fans at covidvaxblogger? Seems like a strange coincidence. But since we’re on the subject:

      I hope Randle’s absence tomorrow causes Simms rather than Knox to get more pt at PF. I like the idea of Simms as a player (stretchyish guy who can at least notionally shoot/pass/defend) more than I like whatever shred of NBA productivity Knox can give you (homeless man’s Steve Novak). In general I think it’s time to let Knox rot and use these preseason games to see if Simms can more credibly occupy the role of third string PF behind Obi

    35. HBD Silky!!

      At least this year’s variant of covidvaxblogger is better than last year’s.

      I’m eager to see Knox as long as it’s a preseason game or a blowout. Playing with our 2nd unit super subs should get him some good looks from 3. It’s all he might be good for, but it’s something.

    36. In actual basketball related news, the NBA is doing a 75 greatest NBA players in history for their 75th anniversary, just like they did for their 50th anniversary. At least some of the print journalists who were part of this released their ballots: https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/sports/nba/2021/10/08/nba-greatest-75-michael-jordan-panalists-vote/5879705001/

      Some things that stand out:

      1. I grew up watching Iverson and love him but he’s ranked top 30 on almost all of these ballots and that’s insanely high.

      2. Nancy Armour is insane and shouldn’t have been allowed a ballot. She’s got Mikan ranked 5th overall behind only Jordan, Russell, Kareem, and Magic. She has Sam Jones 25 just ahead of David Robinson and Jerry West. She has Barkley at 35, Garnett at 54, Ewing at 57, Pettit at 58, and Wade at 60; while Rodman is at 18, Draymond is at 30, Parish is at 40, DeBusschere is at 45, Dwight Howard is at 47, and Mutombo is at 50. She did leave Kobe out of the top 10 which I respect.

      3. Shout out to Larry Starks who put Ewing at 20. He’s definitely not a top 20 player but I’ll take it.

      4. I think we’re going to lose DeBusschere (and Jerry Lucas though he was barely a Knick) from the last list; they’re only on 5 lists here. But, Bernard King seems like he has a good chance of making it; he’s on 10 lists.

      I might have to put these into a spreadsheet so I can read them easier.

    37. cybersoze: Admit it, EB, it’s your wedding and you’re looking for excuses to skip it, right? LOL

      If she thinks missing a preseason game for something as small as our wedding is okay, then it’s not gonna work anyways

    38. Marla Ridenour’s Top 4 matches mine: Jordan, LeBron, Kareem, Magic. She’s got Wilt, Russell, Kobe, Bird, Shaq, Duncan filling out her top 10 and that’s a fine effort. Whether it actually matches mine, I’ll have to think about more. (Wilt’s probably too high for me.) But I love this project as a kickoff to an association season.

      Bernard absolutely is a Top 75 all-timer. No question to me. It wouldn’t be any question to Kevin McHale and Larry Bird if you polled them, either.

    39. Thousands of people are being fired because they already have natural immunity and don’t need or want a faulty vaccine but let’s discuss important things like basketball.

    40. I’m hoping RJ’s foul shooting is as consistent as Dude is. He’ll be at like 95% this year.

    41. Who are the anti-vaxxers here and who are the ones who are simply upholding liberty and people’s right to earn a living?

      It’s hilarious how some on here want to ban anyone who disagrees with them. This seems to be a recurring theme.

    42. I’m for banning immature children who curse on here and who call others morons.

    43. don’t need or want a faulty vaccine

      That’s you, amigo. It sort of seems like you’re “anti” this particular “vaccination”

      I’m for banning immature children who curse on here

      This might not be the blog for you

    44. Greek employees with natural immunity are ok and there’s no need for vaccination for 6 months according to latest science/laws.

      According to my natural instincts it’d be very helpful to sexual oppressed desire if i could masturbate publicly without prosecution. Not possible yet.

      All we are saying is give Sex a chance

    45. Please tell me Carmelo didn’t make the top 75. Or that if he did he was lower than Gallinari.

    46. Owen:
      Please tell me Carmelo didn’t make the top 75. Or that if he did he was lower than Gallinari.

      Official list hasn’t been released yet but Melo is 12th all time in points scored, he’s totally making the list.

      Actually, he’s 12th all time when combining ABA and NBA, he’s 10th all time for just NBA.

    47. I do health research full-time. I help to lead two very large multisector open science communities – one global, one national – that use the largest healthcare data resources in the world and advanced analytics and informatics. I lead work on AI and machine learning algorithm development and help define and support best practices for applying those analytics and traditional epidemiologic methods to patient-level data and accumulated research results. I direct two centers focused on these methods and on applying them at two excellent academic institutions. A lot of what we do is focused on COVID including analyses of waning, adverse event detection, symptom patterns in subpopulations, etc.

      From my perspective, it is currently unknown how quickly this set vaccines’ effectiveness wanes for the circulating viral variants, and the risks associated with vaccination seem to be quite small. I don’t plan to weigh in on related conversations here more than that.

      We’re in a noisy information environment filled both with studies of dubious merit and with careful trustworthy research. That noise is the result of poor practices by the community of researchers and journals. For most smart people, telling good research from bad is very hard. There’s no shame in that. The politicization of COVID-related issues and the misunderstanding and misuse of research in the media make it even harder to have clear respectful conversations about the available evidence and what it implies. But I think it’s important that we try to anyhow.

      I don’t always succeed, but I try to be humble about what I think I know and respectful of the values driving others’ attempts to navigate these highly charged and important topics during these crazy times. This board is the most fun for me when people temper their confidence and their disdain and, fortunately, most usually do. And, fortunately, you’re all often smart and funny.

    48. For fucks sake who the fucking fuck puts fucking Carmelo Anthony higher than Willis Reed.

      Motherfucker

    49. It’s hilarious how some on here want to ban anyone who disagrees with them. This seems to be a recurring theme.

      I don’t want you banned because I disagree with you. That’s fine.

      I want you banned because you pollute every thread with the same shit every single day like a scripted bot. Oops, sorry, you post the same *stuff* every single day.

      That better, gramps?

    50. Also, what Unreason said.

      Although being horrendously overconfident about our takes is a big part of what we do around here.

    51. The only “study” i read before vaccination was the percentage of vaccinated among the rich and educated (north suburbs of Athens)(80-90%) and the less educated/more opa! (Western suburbs)(20%).

    52. Sonny, if you drank purified water you’d think that it was polluted.

      “PERSONAL MEDICAL DECISION MAKING IS PERSONAL; IT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE STATE.”

      “These Covid vaccine mandates and quasi-mandates are fast becoming the greatest infringement on liberty in the United States since slavery was abolished; and I don’t know what is going to stop them.”

      Alex Berenson

    53. Little boy, I’m battling Stage 4 cancer. You’re like a little pimple on my backside. Grow up.

    54. Why stop at slavery? Why not go ahead and compare vaccine mandates to The Holocaust?

      Nice Alex Berenson quote to prove that you’re not an anti-vaxer. Quality.

    55. cybersoze:
      Melo, 12th all time? Is that a joke?

      12th all time in points scored and that’s when combining NBA and ABA. He’s 10th all time in points scored in the NBA.

    56. If NBA makes a list with the 75 worst ones that ever played… let’s say 1000min and more we may have some guys there too, right?

    57. Owen:
      For fucks sake who the fucking fuck puts fucking Carmelo Anthony higher than Willis Reed.

      Motherfucker

      You think that’s bad? I just noticed that Evan Barnes left Reed completely off his list. And J Michael left Walt Frazier off of his.

    58. Unreason: This board is the most fun for me when people temper their confidence and their disdain and, fortunately, most usually do. And, fortunately, you’re all often smart and funny.

      Congrats Unreason, this is the take of the day for me! ;)

    59. vincoug: 12th all time in points scored and that’s when combining NBA and ABA.He’s 10th all time in points scored in the NBA.

      Sorry, i didn’t read your post well. Maybe i should go get my glasses. LOL

    60. Unreason, I just want to note that your handle sucks. That was one of the more reasonable takes I’ve read.
      Maybe change it to “Unknown.” That word jumped out at me from your post.
      And I kind of want to be you. And kind of don’t. That’s a hell of a job you have.
      I’m imagining Geo going straight to the edibles after reading your bit. We may not hear from him again for a while…

    61. Early Bird: If she thinks missing a preseason game for something as small as our wedding is okay, then it’s not gonna work anyways

      LOL

    62. Being 10th all time in scoring should be enough to put you in the 75best players of all time but not having playoff success alongside should definitely drag you down a bit on that list.

    63. Melo’s calories were SOOOOOO empty …. The Garden cotton candy had more nutritional value.

    64. Knew Your Nicks: Greek employees with natural immunity are ok and there’s no need for vaccination for 6 months according to latest science/laws.

      Same here in Portugal.

    65. Nba’s regular season records are usually empty but… That’s Entertainment!

    66. Our defense may not be as good this year but our offense will be light years ahead of last year. We’re going to have some “extended gargaage time”, as Marv used to say. Some big leads in 4th quarters. Pace of play will be quicker. It will be less of a slow death grind. Worse looking D on paper, way better team. Maybe minutes go down fo RJ and Randle…

    67. Whats the consensus of Hakeems rank on this board? Arguably the best two way C ever but doesnt measure up to other greats advanced stats wise.

    68. Melo definitely ain’t a Leader or a Fighter but He used to be a hell of an entertainer!
      And this League’s Reg season is the definition of basketball entertainment.

    69. Knew Your Nicks: Being 10th all time in scoring

      I want to see a top 50 or 75 all-time NBA chuckers, where Melo would very likely be top-10. Our friend Mr. Iverson would probably be there, too. It would be fun to figure out the qualifying metrics for that… Is there a stat for ‘shots taken that should have been passes’? Also maybe ‘time holding the ball.’ And ‘career jab steps’ could be part of it.

    70. You could do a lot worse on the chucker list as a 1-2-3 in whatever order of Iverson, Westbrook, and Melo. There’s a lot more to it than merely shot attempts; there’s also the somewhat intangible stuff like obliviousness and miniscule level of fucks given. Iverson and Melo were going to chuck, that was that, exactly zero fucks given. They gave off that vibe every single second they were in the league, and never wavered an iota.

    71. Found an all-time list that had Westbrook, and Antoine Walker as #1. It’s not a great list, lots I disagree with (Melo’s not on it!),, but brought back amusing memories. Jennings seems widely despised — “the point guard has ranked among the top 10 in field goals missed during three different seasons.” Also Nick Young.

    72. Westbrook added the extra element of being expected to run and organize good teams, particularly in big possessions in big games, and routinely fucked it up in favor of chucking, thereby pissing off talented teammates at multiple stops along the way like possibly no one else in NBA history.

    73. If Harden hadn’t left OKC Westbrook may have had a completely different career imo

    74. And the thunder trading Westbrook instead of Harden is a favorite alternate history for me.

      I was against it!

    75. JK47:
      Why stop at slavery? Why not go ahead and compare vaccine mandates to The Holocaust?

      In Israel the anti vaxxers indeed speak in these terms.

    76. ess-dog:
      Frank with 5 fouls in 16 minutes off the bench in Dallas. The turnaround has begun.

      He also had the highest plus minus on the team except for Tim Hardaway and scored six points on four shots. He got to the line for four foul shots which for Frank is pretty impressive. I think he’s going to be just as confusing in Dallas as he was here.

    77. Knick fan not in NJ: He also had the highest plus minus on the team except for Tim Hardaway and scored six points on four shots. He got to the line for four foul shots which for Frank is pretty impressive. I think he’s going to be just as confusing in Dallas as he was here.

      So not confusing at all and still terrible?

    78. I agree, but it’s not horrible for 16 minutes and, sad to say, it probably represents progress fir Frank.

    79. It’s hilarious that 90% of this board will open the Mavericks box score everyday just to see how Frank did.

      He has some major charisma, that is for sure….

    80. I wish Frank luck. I always pull for kids we drafted. Except for TH2 and that’s out of distaste for TH1.

      Funny that DAL came for Frank after the “Uproarious laughter”, per Rick Carlisle, that ensued when NY picked him one ahead of Dallas’s prize, the immortal, Dennis Smith Jr.

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