Knicks Morning News (2021.10.02)

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    1. The CNBC article linked above is discouraging. It states that subscriber loss is forcing Comcast to cut costs and it expects things like this to be a national trend for cable companies and regional sports networks It suggests to me we will not likely get MSG back on Comcast soon.

    2. Knick fan not in NJ:
      The CNBC article linked above is discouraging.It states that subscriber loss is forcing Comcast to cut costs and it expects things like this to be a national trend for cable companies and regional sports networks It suggests to me we will not likely get MSG back on Comcast soon.

      Yeah, the whole industry is in flux. Honestly, I’m surprised that MSG doesn’t already have a dedicated standalone app with a monthly subscription, like HBO MAX et al. I’m sure it would sell.

      Alternatively, MSG might be planning exactly that, which could be another issue behind their current disagreement with Comcast. That kind of app makes the cable bundlers cranky b/c of more subscriber losses as you point out.

    3. cybersoze:
      4 days until the first preseason game… we’re almost there, at last! :)

      Yay! The Mets crashed and burned as expected…and the Jets are on track to lose a lot of games….

      I really hope last years’ Knicks success was not a mirage and continues this year.

    4. cybersoze: 4 days until the first preseason game… we’re almost there, at last! :)

      Good news, it’s only 3 days… it’s just that the game here in Portugal starts in the next day (Oct 6) at 12:30AM.

    5. We are in a strange great but terrible time as fans. On the one hand there are many options to watch our games on the other, the industry is competing with itself and locking us out of the loop. I’m looking for a house in Florida and am really worried about finding a way to watch Knicks games live.

      Comcast and Cablevision are greedy competitors. This is the type of argument that involves many millions of dollars and will ultimately cost us, the fans.

    6. Yes, very excited.

      Anyone with fresh Knicks gear?

      What’s your jersey number to wear this year?

      (After humble deference to #10 of course)

    7. Yeah, the whole industry is in flux. Honestly, I’m surprised that MSG doesn’t already have a dedicated standalone app with a monthly subscription, like HBO MAX et al. I’m sure it would sell.

      Alternatively, MSG might be planning exactly that, which could be another issue behind their current disagreement with Comcast. That kind of app makes the cable bundlers cranky b/c of more subscriber losses as you point out.

      The problem is that Cablevision owns MSG, and would be undercutting its core business (the cable bundle) to offer msg as a standalone service. They may eventually be forced to do it, anyway, the way customer behavior is trending, I don’t think we’re there yet.

    8. The larger question is the impact that this shift in consumer behavior is going to have on non-NFL sports leagues in general, and baseball in particular. All of these RSNs (regional sports networks) like MSG and YES are essentially houses of cards, built on the foundation of a model where the great majority of people subscribe to the cable bundle and are therefore subsidizing the sports networks whether they watch them or not. If everyone cuts the cord and only subscribes to the services they use enough to pay for, a lot of revenue just disappears.

    9. Alan: The problem is that Cablevision owns MSG, and would be undercutting its core business (the cable bundle) to offer msg as a standalone service. They may eventually be forced to do it, anyway, the way customer behavior is trending, I don’t think we’re there yet.

      Great point. Totally agree. It just seems like “cable bundle” is gonna be something our descendants ask us about in wonder, like “dial up.” Someone over there should prolly figure that out.

      EDIT: Exactly. As per your next comment above. You’re ahead of me ;-)

    10. The current entertainment delivery model really sucks. I’m probably going to start pirating whatever I want to watch again like it’s 2005.

    11. DRed:
      The current entertainment delivery model really sucks.I’m probably going to start pirating whatever I want to watch again like it’s 2005.

      Sometimes it’s the easiest and most convenient way to watch shit, even when I’m more than willing to pay for it.

    12. We’ve been cord cutters down here in TN for quite a few years, now. Absolutely no regrets. I’ve subbed to the MLB package for years to see the Mets out of market, but they still do the “regional teams” blackouts…which means I have to find an alternate means of seeing Mets vs. Braves and Reds games. I think you can probably guess what that alternate means is. I’m looking forward to the demise of regional sports kingdoms. And the NFL is still joined at the hip with DirecTV for live games, so…

      I’ve subbed to NBA on and off…but got tired of the lousy Roku app for it (would regularly crash 2-4 times per game), crappy PC video, and the insertion of ads during timeouts (I actually enjoyed watching the local footage from the arenas during breaks and halftime…all the cheesy glory). I found a Chrome extension to disable ads for MLB, so I may try the NBA again this year and see if it works for that.

    13. DudeInKnicksTown:
      Would it help if I do play by play?

      I’d watch/listen.

      And the next model IS prolly gonna be like rival influencers scattered all around the stadium, live-streaming with their own analyses and hot takes, while we sit at home pinging around their competing “channels”.

      As it is, I’m always more interested in the takes of Knickerbloggers on here than any ESPN/MSG bros on my TV. So, yeah, I’d watch/listen to your play by play ;-)

    14. I’m the last person you’d want to take TV advice from, but my household switched to Hulu Live and nobody in my house even noticed the difference except for me(!), because it doesn’t include NBATV, so I missed that Lillard double-OT game against the Nuggets where he went nuclear. (I’m still kind of bummed about that.)

    15. The problem is that Cablevision owns MSG, and would be undercutting its core business (the cable bundle) to offer msg as a standalone service.

      cablevision doesn’t own msg anymore. cablevision was sold to altice six year ago, sans msg.

    16. #not to get too personal, but, why is it that you think you don’t travel more?#

      I guess I’m more of a cat/chillin mode.
      I like seeing new places but I’m not Burning inside to organise my next trip tbh…

    17. Nice game for Joku in Barca’s easy Euroleague win over Bayern,
      5-5 from the field (including 2 3PT), 12 PTS, 6 AST, 3 DREB, 2 STL.
      He didn’t start (as expected) and played 18 mins.

    18. The Broadway show Aladdin has been shut down again because vaccinated workers keep coming down with Covid. Natural immunity is much more robust and the 150+ million people having it should never lose their jobs.

    19. cablevision doesn’t own msg anymore. cablevision was sold to altice six year ago, sans msg.

      Oh, right. I’d forgotten that. It’s not even technically called Cablevision anymore, with Optimum as the name for the various services.

    20. Maybe it was an honest mistake but Aladdin didn’t get shut down “again.” It had just opened and then they closed it bc some performers got covid. They had one show before the shut it down. “Again” implies they reopened and more performers got covid. That isn’t what happened.

    21. Nonetheless, vaccinated workers are getting Covid. Why should those with more robust natural immunity be losing their jobs as if they’re more of a threat to others than the vaccinated are?

    22. Katz:

      Tom Thibodeau says he doesn’t know when Luca Vildoza will come back from the ankle injury he’s dealing with. Vildoza has been in a boot and isn’t practicing, Thibodeau said the other day.

      But will he be in the playoff rotation, guys?!?!?

    23. Natural immunity is much more robust and the 150+ million people having it should never lose their jobs.

      There have been roughly 43 million Covid cases in the US.

      How exactly do 150 million people have natural immunity? Where did the other 107 million people get this natural immunity?

      Owww my brain

    24. JK47: There have been roughly 43 million Covid cases in the US.

      How exactly do 150 million people have natural immunity? Where did the other 107 million people get this natural immunity?

      Owww my brain

      There have been hundreds of millions of cases. But accepting your flawed premise, sonny, my argument still stands. Those who can show robust natural immunity should not be losing their jobs.

    25. Raven:
      That was a thread or two ago, bub. Please go back and discuss there.

      Why? Are you discussing something more important today?

    26. Yeah we’re not gonna make public health decisions based on “probably.”

      You should “probably” shut the fuck up about the cast of Aladdin and Covid because it’s “definitely” irritating as fuck.

    27. There’s just woefully inadequate data on how much protection you get with natural Covid immunity. Some people seem to generate no antibodies, and there are studies that suggest mild or asymptomatic cases don’t produce a strong antibody response. It’s not as simple as Dude here is making it out to be.

      This discussion is now over and yes Kevin Kline is fantastic.

    28. “According to their model…”

      Everyone benefits from vaccination and should get vaccinated. A single unreviewed observational study is not convincing or incontrovertible evidence of natural immunity being superior to vaccination. How many times does this need to be said?

    29. For those of you with Comcast, hopefully NBA.com removes the Knicks blackout in those areas. I don’t know that I’d hold my breath.

    30. Random basketball query:

      What are the best high schools in NYC for both their basketball program and their educational value? Can be public or private.

      My cousin’s son is now a highly recruited middle school player in Toronto. He is fielding offers from prep/high schools in Canada and in the US. My cousin asked me for any insider tips or anecdotal info on the local programs in NY, but since I don’t really follow high school or even college ball, I can’t help much. I’m tossing it out to better minds on this board. Engage or not. Up to you. Cheers either way.

    31. Dude, i understand your frustration, maybe soon they’ll prove that natural immunity is equal or better than being vaccinated, but right now there isn’t enough data to support that. What would you do, if you were, let’s say the POTUS, would you gamble on it? Or would you wait for the data to support the decision? If people are against a vaccine that has a lot of data supporting it, how would people feel if the government started making the rules based on partial data, or even no data at all?
      I think everybody here agreed with you that the natural immunity probably grants a good protection, maybe even greater and longer than the vaccine, but until this is proved to be the case it can’t be used to make the rules.

    32. KB Apprentice:
      Random basketball query:

      What are the best high schools in NYC for both their basketball program and their educational value? Can be public or private.

      My cousin’s son is now a highly recruited middle school player in Toronto. He is fielding offers from prep/high schools in Canada and in the US. My cousin asked me for any insider tips or anecdotal info on the local programs in NY, but since I don’t really follow high school or even college ball, I can’t help much. I’m tossing it out to better minds on this board.Engage or not. Up to you. Cheers either way.

      Two private schools in greater NYC have a very good combo of top-shelf basketball and good academics: LI Lutheran ( which is on Long Island) and Christ the King, which is in Queens.
      If he goes to Christ the King, he’ll have the added bonus of having Strat attend home games ( he lives close by) and giving him pointers.

    33. Question: is this MSG impasse going to impact my FUBOTV subscription? Because that’s how I watch Knicks games, and it’s been decent.

    34. What If… has filled in the second half of its first season…lots of pretty grim tales, fun times…there have been some good to excellent animated comic material over time – What If… is really something else entirely…it’s like a 50 year old comic book nerd’s wet dream…i still remember when i was first reading ultimate fantastic four and thinking the inclusion of zombies in to marvel tales worked way cool…that zombie story in What IF… was disturbed…

      loving all the chadwick stuff…

      recently picked up age of apocolypse: what if…may grab the deadpool zombie story too…

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