Knicks Morning News (2021.09.29)

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    1. Just saw the Comcast/MSG news. If neither side blinks, this stinks for me. I haven’t cut the cord because it’s better for me, work-wise, to have the cable bundle then to switch to YouTube or Hulu with live TV, but I was planning to watch a lot of Knicks games this year.

      Does anyone use the team-only League Pass option? If so, how often do the blackout rules come into play?

    2. Alan:
      Just saw the Comcast/MSG news. If neither side blinks, this stinks for me. I haven’t cut the cord because it’s better for me, work-wise, to have the cable bundle then to switch to YouTube or Hulu with live TV, but I was planning to watch a lot of Knicks games this year.

      Does anyone use the team-only League Pass option? If so, how often do the blackout rules come into play?

      Hi Alan,

      — longtime fan of your work here and on RS.

      I use the team only League Pass. If I’m in NYC, Knicks games are blacked out, so I use ExpressVPN. Works well on my mac laptop and iPhone. And, if I want to watch on my TV, I use Apple’s airplay to send it there from either device. Maybe this helps. Cheers —

    3. Thanks, KB Apprentice. So if I live in the Knicks’ home market, the team-only League Pass is useless without a VPN? That is incredibly annoying.

      Usually, one side blinks in these kinds of disputes. But I hate the entire sports media ecosystem.

    4. Alan:
      Usually, one side blinks in these kinds of disputes. But I hate the entire sports media ecosystem.

      I was forced to watch my airplane-neighbor’s headrest TV out of the corner of my eye and got a little taste of ESPN for the first time in a long while. It seems to me that live sports exists entirely to allow for predictions and post-mortems, and nothing more. It’s all a big narcissist ploy at this point. Can Michael Wilson predict the winner of the big game with his big brain? Was Skip right about… something, anything? Does Kendrick Perkins have a secret prognostication talent from having glommed onto a championship run that one time? Find out on ESPN, at any hour of the day, 365 days a year!

    5. I hope Robin doesn’t think it’s a good idea to simply accept what a politicized media is saying about anything . It’s primarily made up of incompetents, spinners, liars, and bought and paid for corrupt government/intelligence community stooges with an agenda. Trying to find truth in a seas of lies is not that easy. But he’s an idealistic young man. He may not know that yet. Still, I’m pretty sure the Bucks did win. The sports pages are incompetent, but there are way fewer liars and dirt bags in that section. :-)

    6. Bro you said January 6 wasn’t a big deal but not for that politicized media

      You have zero credibility on anything related to media criticism

    7. Sometimes I really enjoy reading Strat. Is it comedy? Tragedy? Irony? Dramatic irony? You can tilt your head and find so many possible meanings in his ramblings. I’m only certain that it’s not anagnorisis.

    8. A friend of mine’s brother in law works with someone whose neighbor has an uncle who lives in Phoenix. This uncle was at Game 5 and saw Phoenix win in a blow-out. He also insists that Giannis missed 17 of 19 in Game 6, and was at the championship parade in Phoenix.

      We all know that the media hates the notion of a conservative state being home to the NBA champs. There are some serious questions to answer, but this will just get buried.

    9. Somehow, I don’t think my my Comcast bill will go down even if they don’t come to terms with MSG and thus give me less content.

    10. Yeah, looks like YoutubeTv is going to cut NBCSN, which would be super irritating given my love of the premier league. I suppose I’d save money by switching to Peacock but it doesn’t have the same recording features. Love the Youtube Tv interface.

      And yeah, overall, the way the media landscape has sprawled really really sucks.

    11. Raven:
      Sometimes I really enjoy reading Strat. Is it comedy? Tragedy? Irony? Dramatic irony? You can tilt your head and find so many possible meanings in his ramblings. I’m only certain that it’s not anagnorisis.

      somewhere between slapstick and off the deep end neurosis…

    12. According to an NBA source, Thibodeau lobbied hard to bring back the team’s defensive heart-and-soul in starting shooting guard Reggie Bullock but team brass went another direction. The coach was disappointed.

      This is from a Berman of the Post story lamenting the losses of both Bullock (which will hurt a bit on defense, yes) and Payton (hahahahahaha), and is most notable for being a very palpable example of Leon Rose saying no to Thibs. Which is exactly how the power dynamic here should work, even if Thibs sometimes gets security blankets like Taj or DRose.

    13. A friend of mine’s brother in law works with someone whose neighbor has an uncle who lives in Phoenix. This uncle was at Game 5 and saw Phoenix win in a blow-out. He also insists that Giannis missed 17 of 19 in Game 6, and was at the championship parade in Phoenix.

      We all know that the media hates the notion of a conservative state being home to the NBA champs. There are some serious questions to answer, but this will just get buried.

      Quality humor right there.

      The media does suck, though. Their obvious agendas are a significant reason that public trust is so low. As is people’s inability to process information competently.

    14. Some quotes from training camp from our new beat guy, the former more illuminating than the latter (though I’m excited if the latter is true):

      @FredKatz
      Tom Thibodeau confirms Kemba Walker is the starter as of now but “a lot of those guys are interchangeable.” Says he’s not concerned with who starts, more so who finishes. Also says he likes how the bench unit played last season and he wants to keep it together.

      @FredKatz
      Tom Thibodeau: “Obi, I think, is a lot better than he was a year ago.”

    15. I would really enjoy it if I didn’t lose my work after clicking “post comment.”

    16. Hubert, your use of “the media” is a strawman. There is no such thing as “the media” as you describe it. Alex Jones, who argues that Sandy Hook never happened, and Benjamin Wittes, who argues about constitutional issues related to the federal government, are each podcasts hosts. The media! John Solomon, who advanced Hunter Biden conspiracy theories, and Jane Mayer, who uncovered a pervasive system of dark-money conservative political-action groups, are each investigative journalists. The media! The media!

      This isn’t like saying “Big Oil” or “Big Tobacco,” where there is a set of documented unethical practices shared across entities, which appear to be a requirement of competition in the industry. “The media,” as you assert it, is nothing more than a fiction, a strat-level take.

      If you want to say “cable news,” then yeah, we’re talking about something different. CNN, for one, is not nearly as socially damaging as Fox News, but it is still entertainment TV with the lines between fact and opinion kept as blurry as possible.

    17. THCJ – You get what you get and you don’t get upset.

      But I would actually love it if when I edited a post it didn’t then appear as the first post on the thread.

      The fact that Thibs wanted both Bullock and Payton back is really hilarious. Because I am with him on Bullock and then you get just get coldcocked with Elfriid.

      Obi improving would be really fantastic.

    18. ***You have zero credibility on anything related to media criticism***

      You also used the lamest slant-rhyme possible to refer to Dr Fauci yesterday, which is hilarious, because that’s the kind of garbage you rail on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about from the media. Your credibility truly is zero.

      You are not comedy. You are not irony. You are not tragedy. You are just boring.

    19. E’s spirited defense of the anti-vaxx position left me wondering if Tom Thibodeau were in cahoots with Bill Gates somehow.

      But then I started reading some of the same arguments from Strat, a strident Thibs supporter.

      I’m so confused…

    20. People really enjoy things that appeal to their sense of confirmation bias. So it’s not surprising that the news entertainment products that are most popular are designed to please their audience. I’m not really sure what the solution for it is. There is credible news and reporting out there, but it’s almost like an artisanal niche product at this point.

    21. The fact that Thibs wanted both Bullock and Payton back is really hilarious. Because I am with him on Bullock and then you get just get coldcocked with Elfriid.

      To be clear, Berman was arguing for Elfrid’s return (or, at least, that Kemba will be a defensive downgrade over Elf), not Thibs. I neglected to link to the story before, but here it is.

    22. Ahh, ok Alan. That makes way more sense that Berman is the idiot.

      The history of American media is pretty crazy. Hyperpoliticization was part of the game from the very start. But Fox News still amazes me.

    23. > I would really enjoy it if I didn’t lose my work after clicking “post comment.”

      > But I would actually love it if when I edited a post it didn’t then appear as the first post on the thread.

      If someone out there with knowledge of WordPress wants to donate their time to look at the ol’girl, reach out to me at mike@knicker-youknow-.net. I just don’t have the bandwidth to change themes, update plugins, etc.

    24. re: Media/news bias. This thread hits the nail right on the head:

      https://twitter.com/MarkJacob16/status/1442587928174153728

      Basically a writer for a major newspaper talks about how the mainstream media bends over backwards to paint both sides evenly INSTEAD of presenting the truth to the public.

      So liberal/centrist newspapers are moving to the right to appeal to “both sides” or give the appearance of “being fair”, and the right doesn’t (which they acknowledge). However it doesn’t mean both are equally un-trustable, are mirror images of each other, or are equivalent.

    25. Ban Strat? Sacrilege!

      I love Strat because while he is mostly wrong and never brief he is always civil and kind.

      Mike, I am just going to do finished work from now now on.

    26. Let me suggest a lesson to all of you that I have learned from years of writing on various unstable web publishing platforms: always draft whatever you’re going to write somewhere else and then paste it in when you’re ready to publish. You never want to do your first draft within the site itself.

    27. There might be parts of the paper in which this is the case, but on the critical controversial issues of the day, there is literally zero sense in which the NY Times is moving right to give equal weight to both sides. The comment section is a pretty open forum and, especially in recent weeks, there have been some very spirited “woke left versus liberal lift” back and forth. Yesterday’s Michelle Goldberg column on the ACLU doctoring RBG’s famous quote is a perfect example. (Lesson: while it may be more temporarily powerful given the mechanics of Twitter and Big Tech and the like, the woke left is nowhere near as numerically strong on the left as the liberal left. If you’re on the liberal left, it was great to see.)

      In that vein, I didn’t even hint at an “anti-vax defense,” much less make a “spirited” one.

    28. Or practice Ctrl+A for selecting all your text, and Ctrl+C for copying it. Then when you discover the site killed your 23 word masterpiece comedy you just try again with Ctrl+V.

    29. I have definitely taken to copying some of my longer posts after losing many to the Knickerblogger shadow realm. Figured it was only an issue for me.

      Re: Bullock, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think we should’ve matched Dallas’ offer but given how everything else played out I think he made sense as a triage candidate. Good to see Thibs was told thanks but no thanks.

    30. E – the NYTimes is one of the worst offenders. I cancelled my subscription to them years ago. They’ve steadily given credence to far right theories that aren’t based in facts. As Mark Jacob (essentially) says in that twitter thread I linked to: Hillary deleted some emails, and George W. Bush lied to start a costly decade+ long war, and the NYTimes gave both equal gravity.

      It’s well known that the NYTimes has shifted right to sell papers/gain eyes/clicks. This has been happening for a long time.

      https://twitter.com/equalityAlec/status/1442548020118097921?s=20
      https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/15/17113176/new-york-times-opinion-page-conservatism
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/maggie-haberman-trump/2021/08/25/87374bbe-efbe-11eb-81d2-ffae0f931b8f_story.html

    31. Mike, I just read the first link you posted (Alec whatever) and it’s insane rambling from a lunatic. He sounds like E.

    32. This is one of those pointless rabbit holes that no one wants to read a back and forth about; I’ll simply note that Hillary’s emails are now 5 years old and Bush Jr’s lies are now 18 years old, both predate Trump and (essentially the Great Awokening) and might as well be Truman’s Square Deal at this point. The inflection point was Trump.

      I briefly cancelled when they ran Bari Weiss out and sat out for a month and now I’m back. The big four honest liberals/centrists at this point are probably Weiss, Andrew Sullivan, Glenn Greenwald, and Matt Taibbi. All have been run out of their shops by wokedom.

    33. Hubert: Quality humor right there.

      The media does suck, though. Their obvious agendas are a significant reason that public trust is so low. As is people’s inability to process information competently.

      I agree 100%.

      Please grant me the arrogance of saying the experience gained by being 62 years old has upsides sometimes.

      30-35 years ago I faithfully watched the PBS news shows each night, all the Sunday political shows, and at least one network news show each night. I believed 95% of what was being said and could easily sperate facts from the occasional politically motivated spinning guest.

      Then something happened.

      Either I became less naive, the quality of news deteriorated badly, or most likely some of both. Along the way, it became more and more apparent to me that there was a lot more spinning and lying going on than I thought.

      By the time Clinton/George W Bush passed us by my trust turned to skepticism.

      By Obama it became apparent that every source had chosen a side and their goal was to advance an agenda and not give us facts and put a check on corruption, lying, and incompetence wherever it existed.

      At this point I hold them all in utter contempt because I’ve caught them in so many spins and lies, I have “boy cried wolf” syndrome. The only time I believe anything is the rare occurrence I see a primary source and can get context or if someone shows me they are willing to commit career suicide over what they are going to say. In the latter case, I still can’t be sure they are right, but at least I know they probably aren’t lying. They are putting their integrity ahead of career interests to tell it like they see it.

      I don’t really care how the media (and I) got to this point. All I know is cynical does not describe my deserved and earned utter contempt.

    34. The media are all for-profit entities. Always have been, always will be. In what is now pretty clearly their lost Golden Age of Objectivity, they were able to be both objective and make a ton of money. Some of them were among the very most profitable companies in the US.

      Then the internet arrived and blew all of that up and it’s pretty clear that there is far more money in it for them if they publish things that keep the tribes perpetually on their dopamine high than there is in publishing a sober recitation of the news together with a few sober columnists providing opinion from a cross-section of the political spectrum. (GIven what Strat has said about his age, this is the arc he saw. His formative years and probably half of his adult life were spent under the dominion, the premises, the habits of thought, etc. of the Golden Age of Objectivity. Not surprisingly and correctly, he sees the current age as a big downgrade from the Golden Age and there’s simply no question among those who experienced the Golden Age that that’s true. If you don’t have that experience, it’s probably hard to understand.)

      The business is much like the movies. The movies have always been in business to make money, but occasionally that can co-exist with an artistic masterpiece. But the producers and the studios will always, without exception, prefer the money to the masterpiece. The age in which objectivity reigned was an historical accident, unfortunately. Now we’re in the era where there are effectively no gatekeepers and that just doesn’t work. Facebook and Twitter have tried to turn themselves into gatekeepers and that REALLY doesn’t work.

    35. Bullock became a liability where the Hawks were able to hide Trae on him without any offensive pressure. Wont happen with someone like Fournier or Burks and they are only small defensive downgrades.

    36. Never got the Bullock thing and can’t imagine any scenario in which the Knicks are worse without him.

    37. nice Knew Your Nicks, you got me with this one :)

      Is it Souvlakistan?

      Year Built: c.21000 BCE
      Location: Near Kalambaka, Thessaly, Greece
      Kalabaka is a town and seat of the municipality of Meteora in the Trikala regional unit, part of Thessaly in Greece. The population was 12,000 at the 2011 census, of which 8,330 in the town proper. The Meteora monasteries are located near the town
      Original Purpose: Stone wall possibly built as a barrier against cold winds

      what’s really neat about it is that there’s evidence of cultivation, not domesticated grains, still wild, none the less – it doesn’t appear they were living such a hunter/gatherer type lifestyle…

      now this is some evidence i’d want to try and verify:
      Theopetra Cave: The excavations began in 1987 under the direction of ?. Kyparissi-Apostolika, which were meant to give some answers to the mystery of Paleolithic Thessaly. Radiocarbon evidence shows for human presence at least 50,000 years ago

      that is one amazing hole in the earth…

    38. E, all merc’d out

      You described my experience perfectly.

      I’m not going to say Walter Cronkite never spun things and never tried to help DC change public opinion, but I trusted him a lot more than anyone now.

      I think Tim Russert is the last guy I really trusted.

      He set aside his own politics the best that he could and asked all his guests the tough questions. Even though I might disagree with him on some things if we discussed them privately, I loved his show and was very upset when he died. He was great and fully trustworthy.

      I don’t feel that way about anyone now.

    39. E, all merc’d out

      You described my experience perfectly.

      I’m not going to say Walter Cronkite never spun things and never tried to help DC change public opinion, but I trusted him a lot more than anyone now.

      I think Tim Russert is the last guy I really trusted.

      He set aside his own politics the best that he could and asked all his guests the really tough questions. Even though I might disagree with him on some things, I loved his show and was very upset when he passed away. He was great. I trusted him fully.

      I don’t feel that way about anyone now.

    40. Fox News proved that you could do very well by simply pandering to confirmation bias. They rode that horse to #1 and have pretty much stayed there ever since. They were the innovators but since then their main competitors CNN and MSNBC have basically said “if you can’t beat ’em join ’em” and got into the confirmation bias game themselves. The only alternatives seem to be the OAN/Newsmax kinds of channels, where they heap on the confirmation bias on even more. There’s just no audience for the Walter Cronkite old-school gatekeeper kind of news anymore.

      It’s a problem without a meaningful solution. You really can’t blame “the media” here. We live in a capitalist society, these are the kind of things that happen. The market dictates how the news will be presented. If people wanted Walter Cronkite, you’d get Walter Cronkite, but mainly what people want is to not be challenged. They want their beliefs confirmed.

      You could bring back the Fairness Doctrine I guess, but it seems like the toothpaste is already out of the tube.

    41. just googled the location, i was totally expecting the cave itself to be part of a larger mountain range (which, when you think about it for a second more than i initially did, it probably isn’t really a good idea to set up permanent camp in that particular type environment)…

      i saw some people who made this map about villages and the dangers of rockfall and whatever, they were somewhere in “north” southeast asia…pakistan maybe…i remember them saying it took them like three weeks from getting in-country to getting wherever there was…that’s a bit of a commitment…

      basically, they was trying to tell folks they was living in a dangerous spot – that was always gonna be a dangerous spot…

      anyways, this raggedy old cave is inside of what looks like a large hill, which is inside of some kind of “flood basin”…

    42. Wont happen with someone like Fournier or Burks and they are only small defensive downgrades.

      I don’t know how small the downgrade is. I think it’s the most important question of the season. We’re giving kudos to Rose for denying Thibs, but Thibs might have been right. We’ll see.

    43. I’m into having players who offer you something different so the coach has options. Fournier and Burks have similar skill sets, whereas Fournier and Bullock would have given coach a defensive option when necessary. I feel the same way about the Center position, too. I think Mitch and a stretch 5 makes more sense than Mitch & Noel.

    44. Props to the NBA, they’re supposedly eliminating the automatic review of out of bounds plays with under 2 minutes left unless there’s a coaches challenge.

      I don’t remember which game it was this past season, but the last 2 minutes literally took almost 30 because of all the out of bounds reviews. It was excruciating

      Great move

    45. It’s a problem without a meaningful solution. You really can’t blame “the media” here. We live in a capitalist society, these are the kind of things that happen.

      As someone who works in what’s probably the most regulated industry on the planet, I know first hand there is plenty that can be done. The problem is that the lawmakers don’t want it to be done. They take care of each other too well.

    46. Hubert: I don’t know how small the downgrade is. I think it’s the most important question of the season. We’re giving kudos to Rose for denying Thibs, but Thibs might have been right. We’ll see.

      if the most important question we face is dealing with the loss of a journeyman swingman…then we’re fucked…

    47. Stereotyping “the media” is just as bad as stereotyping a demographic of people (race, religion, nationality, etc) and possibly more dangerous. Intelligent people can tell the difference between pandering mush and reasonably objective reporting. There’s an emormous chasm between Tucker Carleson and Chris Wallace. And even at the extremes of the non-fringe media, there is not moral equivalancy. Just like there isn’t a moral equivalancy between mainstream Progressives and Trumpist Republicans.

      Strat’s rhetoric is akin to Trump’s pointing to the press corp and shouting, “They’re the enemy!” Whatever the press is in this country, it’s still free press, and for the sake of democracy, it needs to be, even with all the divisive pandering on both sides in the cable news realm. There’s still plenty of great, reasonably unbiased reporting out there. It’s just that people in general would rather be entertained than educated….that’s where the money is.

    48. Stereotyping “the media” is just as bad as stereotyping a demographic of people (race, religion, nationality, etc) and possibly more dangerous. Intelligent people can tell the difference between pandering mush and reasonably objective reporting.

      That’s a huge reach. If you want to argue they aren’t all equally bad I’m with you, but saying it’s on a par with racism etc.. is silly.

      Not all Intelligent people can tell the difference. In fact, I’d argue most can’t UNTIL they are older and reach a certain level of cynicism from experience. Intelligent people suffer from the same confirmation biases as everyone else.

    49. Might be asking too much of Grimes but I could see him replicating if not surpassing what Bullock gave us considering his pull up shooting and excellent rebounding.

    50. In fact, I’d argue most can’t UNTIL they are older and reach a certain level of cynicism from experience.

      oh FUCK off

    51. Just to change the subject back to the Knicks. lol

      I find myself in line with the consensus.

      The offense is better,

      The defense is weaker.

      The net is better.

      The risk to the net is injuries and playing time, especially for Kemba, Rose, and MItch but also for the non consensus Fournier who is not exactly an iron man.

      The east is better for all the reasons everyone talks about.

      The potential upsides are RJ, Toppin, Quick, the rookies, and Mitch.

      I think the consensus among fans is probably a bit too optimistic.

      I’m not sure what the Vegas under/over will be, but I doubt I’ll disagree with it much.

    52. The Honorable Cock Jowles: oh FUCK off

      Maybe you are one of the exceptions, but you probably still think Wages of Wins is a pretty good model. I was suffering from some confirmation biases on that one back then too, but I stopped at age 55. :-)

    53. Z-Man

      There’s an emormous chasm between Tucker Carleson and Chris Wallace.

      They still both suck ass and are agenda driven non stop.

    54. There’s a word for what strat is representing right now, but I’ve been lectured on this site to not invoke it.

    55. The Honorable Cock Jowles:
      There’s a word for what strat is representing right now, but I’ve been lectured on this site to not invoke it.

      What’s that?

      Unfortunate for us all truth teller?

      I’m just very frustrated with everything going on these days and have to vent. I am having a tough time finding any redeeming qualities to the world and the direction its taking. When I would get like this is the past I’d sometimes fantasize about moving to Australia or New Zealand (if they’d have me). Now those counties wouldn’t make my top 20. It may be Iceland or bust for me and that’s only because I have a friend there that speaks highly about it. I haven’t added it to my personal cesspool list yet.

    56. Mike Kurylo: If someone out there with knowledge of WordPress wants to donate their time to look at the ol’girl, reach out to me at mike@knicker-youknow-.net. I just don’t have the bandwidth to change themes, update plugins, etc.

      I’m not a WP expert, but in the weekend i can try to help if you still need it.

    57. JK47:
      Phil Jackson did a good job for the Knicks. You just can’t handle the truth, maaaaan.

      IMO Phil Jackson understands more about basketball, team building, and playing winning basketball than almost anyone in the NBA now. What’s he’s bad at is being a GM. I haven’t changed my mind one bit because his arrogance is universally hated and some people enjoy dragging down the ultra successful.

    58. Geo, i’m sensing you are worried about the world, because of the climate change implications, and trying to find a parallel in history maybe? But unless you can mix the paleolithic with the media bias, you won’t get people to join the conversation. LOL
      Oh, and btw, the meteora monasteries are amazing places. It must be one of the harder places to build anything, with such a difficult access to the spot of construction.

    59. Stereotyping “the media” is just as bad as stereotyping a demographic of people (race, religion, nationality, etc) and possibly more dangerous.

      Bc policemen systematically discriminate against the media, and there was a troubling rise in hate crimes against newscasters?

    60. cybersoze:
      I’m longing for the time i’ll be 80, as i will be so much smarter than now! LOL

      Serious answer despite the remark.

      Even at 62 I can’t concentrate nearly as deeply or for as long as I used to. My memory is not close to what it was at my peak. But since I’ve already made every mistake in the book, been wrong uncountable times, and gone down multiple wrong paths multiple times, I’ve become less likely to make the same mistakes I did years ago or think the same foolish things I did when I was younger. I get better results with less intellectual firepower and capacity.

    61. Deeefense: I’ve become less likely to make the same mistakes I did years ago or think the same foolish things I did when I was younger. I get better results with less intellectual firepower and capacity.

      That sounds like it’s correct, and i believe it. Where you’re wrong is that you’re smarter than “young Strat”, not smarter than all 20 years old out there. Like Noble, that you don’t respect because he’s young (but he is indeed very smart, i’m older and i learn from him, no problem in that for me). To put it simply, a 20 years old Einstein was much smarter than all of us, right?

    62. JK47:
      He knows everything about team building but is bad at being a GM.

      #GalaxyBrain

      Fitting pieces together coherently in basketball terms (skills).

      I thought you would understand what I was talking about by now after seeing Mills/Perry in action. Apparently not.

    63. Weird, I thought “team building” meant you knew how to build a team that was actually good. Phil Jackson built teams that were objectively bad.

      Maybe when I’m 62 I’ll understand why this makes sense.

    64. cybersoze: That sounds like it’s correct, and i believe it. Where you’re wrong is that you’re smarter than “young Strat”, not smarter than all 20 years old out there. Like Noble, that you don’t respect because he’s young (but he is indeed very smart, i’m older and i learn from him, no problem in that for me). To put it simply, a 20 years old Einstein was much smarter than all of us, right?

      I understand that perfectly.

      That’s why I didn’t say “ALL” young intelligent people can’t tell the different between honest journalism and political lies/spin etc.. I said “most” and elaborated.

      I can give you a list of friends of mine with an IQ of 125 and above that still believe a lot of the totally nonsensical spins and lies told on CNN, MSNBC, FOX, OANN, the NY Times. Washington Post, and even the NY Post etc.. in recent years.

      My girlfriend has an IQ of around 140-145. I’d say 160 but she’s with me and that loses IQ points. :-) You would not believe some of the nonsense she see in the news that she believes.

      Brilliant scientists have trouble getting past their biases.

      It’s my opinion that getting past it has more to do with experience and cynicism than intelligence.

    65. JK47:
      Weird, I thought “team building” meant you knew how to build a team that was actually good. Phil Jackson built teams that were objectively bad.

      Maybe when I’m 62 I’ll understand why this makes sense.

      We both already know my view. You disagree with it and that’s fine.

      He was handed an absolutely horrible hand,
      He improved our position significantly despite several GM level mistakes.
      He was fired.
      Mills and Perry set us back another two years.

      With a good GM he would have done fine.

      You need good basketball understanding and a good GM, cap guy, scouting etc… This is the first time I think we’ve had it all in a very long time.

    66. Some people have a hard time letting go of their biases, such as “Frank Ntilikina is a good basketball player” and “Phil Jackson is a genius of team building” and “Kristaps Porzingis is worthy of a max contract.”

      Only the truly wise can see where their thinking has been flawed, then correct that flawed thinking.

    67. I believe that we’ll miss Bullock and his toughness. I doubt that Fournier will be anywhere as tough defensively.

      Noel is shooting corner threes. We might just have our stretch five after all.

      Mitch still having foot issues after all of this time does not bide well for his future. I hope I’m wrong.

    68. Noel shooting threes feels like Mitch shooting threes. Definitely in believe it when I see it mode.

      The major question we all seem to agree on for this year is will Thibs get this cast of characters to play defense as well as last year. Mitch and Noel are there so it’s possible but I am in wait and see mode on that too.

      JK47 – I would love to eat some chicken you have perfectly roasted

    69. The Times has some good columnists (I personally like Friedman and Krugman). and often does a good job with their news stories, but there is no way they are balanced between conservative and liberals in their Oped’s. I never read anything that makes me think “how conservative” but I have read many things that seem thoughtlessly knee-jerk liberal or just incredibly “woke”, but not in a good way.

    70. I hate people who type in all caps but…..

      PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT PHIL FUCKING JACKSON!!!

      Thank you

    71. Hubert: Bc policemen systematically discriminate against the media, and there was a troubling rise in hate crimes against newscasters?

      The free press is a fundamental pillar of constitutional democracy, so much so that protecting it is the very first right in the Bill of Rights. And if Trump and his thugs were successful in their coup attempt on January 6, with another 4 years of controlling the military, justice department and intelligence agencies, not to mention the citizen militias that are sympathetic to his fascist worldview, the free press would possibly/probably become restricted/threatened as you suggest. So the short answer is, not yet.

      If you perfer a different metaphor, maybe we should conclude that all food is bad because of the proliferation of fast food joints.

      Stereotyping is stereotyping. It’s generally bad and often extremely toxic.

    72. Krugman is not a reporter. He is an economics scholar and in his role with the Times, an op-ed journalist. Friedman is an expert on global affairs, particularly Middle East current events. He is also not a reporter.

    73. Deeefense: It’s my opinion that getting past it has more to do with experience and cynicism than intelligence.

      What the fuck does this mean? The dumbest “smart” people I know are short-haired beardless white collar seniors with their heads stuck up the white bread racist/misogynist/homophobic/xenophobic/America-love-it-or-leave-it mindset of the 1950s. Stop with the moronic “youth is wasted on the young” condescending bullshit. You sound like a total schmuck who gives people our age a bad name.

    74. Z-man:
      Krugman is not a reporter. He is an economics scholar and in his role with the Times, an op-ed journalist.Friedman is an expert on global affairs, particularly Middle East current events.He is also not a reporter.

      I never claimed they were reporters. I was talking about OpEd columnists. My point was despite the Times claiming they are trying to give a variety of viewpoints in their OpEd pages, they are still biased to the liberal. So I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.

    75. Deeefense: Brilliant scientists have trouble getting past their biases.

      It’s my opinion that getting past it has more to do with experience and cynicism than intelligence.

      So a team I’m on recently took a survey. One question was “How are you doing in the team?” The total score was 5.5 out of 6, which was pretty darn good. Next question was “How is the team doing?” Score was 4.5. It’s possible that one or two people massively dragged the score down, but to me, that means people were largely incapable of properly assessing themselves.

      My point is that assuming you have gotten past your biases, because experience/cynicism or some other reason, may need a reassessment. As in no, perhaps you haven’t. Perhaps your biases have changed and you’re just as confident in your current biases being truths as you were at 20 with a set of different (but also wrong) biases.

      In which case you haven’t changed at all, just your biases have. And thus you’re just as wrong, only for different reasons.

      And Jowles, you can be a dork at any age. Unless the word you were avoiding was dork, in which case I apologize for wielding it. Just replace it with stridently wrong.

    76. While the NYT is liberal leaning in general, they absolutely present conservative viewpoints in op-Ed’s. Take David Brooks, for example. But as to their reporting on news stories, there is no comparison in the relative objectivity of their reporting with, say, the WSJ, let alone Fox News.

    77. kevin5318: Might be asking too much of Grimes but I could see him replicating if not surpassing what Bullock gave us considering his pull up shooting and excellent rebounding.

      So that’s my bias. I think Grimes will eventually give us much more than Bullock, although I don’t expect to see it this year (rookie mistakes plus Thibs not playing him much). I just think a player who was considered one of the best players in the nation out of high school, who screwed up but then totally remade himself into a grinding 3-and-D monster, has a whole lot of upside. There’s the enormous talent that people first noticed, the work ethic that allowed him to remake himself, and the fact that his foundation is now 3-and-D, which is a great foundation to build on (as compared to trying to become one when you’re not).

      I’m just as high on McBride for different reasons, but that’s for another post.

    78. Yes, Ross Douthat and Bret Stephens are also conservatives, though all three are quite out of step with Trump’s Republican Party. They don’t have anyone at the Times that toes that line.

      Krugman has a Nobel in economics and has been better than most on economic predictions and especially about inflation, which drives my Dad, who has predicted 12 defaults for California and Illinois, pretty nuts.

    79. Geo, i’m sensing you are worried about the world, because of the climate change implications, and trying to find a parallel in history maybe?

      hi soze, i believe humans are an incredible creation, magnificent design (except for our plumbing, i give god, or whatever, maybe a C plus in that area)…

      it’s tough though because so much of history fades to shadow and dust…the climate is and has always been changing, instead of just the sun, volcanoes and earthquakes – now we get to join in on stirring things up on this pebble in the sky :)

      i don’t really care what happens short term to us…our destiny may truly be in the stars, to which – who cares about earth, right…

      we have new and enhanced tools like sonar, radar, drones, lidar, satellite imagery…it’s also much easier now to create algorithms to screen through data that can focus on societal/community detection and look in to the past…

      there’s this little spot off the coast of israel called atlit yam, it’s a small village that’s underneath about 10 meters of water….only dates back to around 6k bce or so, but – there’s a well there that’s intact, and the masonry skill is incredible, immaculate construction skill…

      you look at some of the megalithic structures from a thousand years and back, and it’s like at some point someone(s) figured out how to mold and shape rock, and wasn’t able to pass it on…bizarre thought, but…

      i’m not sure how much our brains have actually evolved and progressed the last twenty thousand years or so, but, i don’t think that unsophisticated perception of communities from the early neolithic or maybe the last 50k or so of the paleolithic age is really accurate…

      maybe i don’t understand enough about society/culture…

      the fact that in less around 60 generations we’ve grown from 200 million to 7.5 billion is significant…not only can we better record, store and recall data – we got a lot more “smart” brains…

    80. So a team I’m on recently took a survey. One question was “How are you doing in the team?” The total score was 5.5 out of 6, which was pretty darn good. Next question was “How is the team doing?” Score was 4.5. It’s possible that one or two people massively dragged the score down, but to me, that means people were largely incapable of properly assessing themselves.

      well now, i certainly do seem to be the main protagonist in this picture show in my head…

    81. Noel has a respectable 74% or so from the FT line the last 2 years and has shown some ability to hit from the midrange. Mitch hasn’t. I believe in Noel’s 3 ball more than Mitch’s 3 ball.

      I think the Knicks will more readily experiment with Noel’s 3. Noel l needs to generate more offense as he lacks Mitch’s interior dominance. Noel hitting 3s also opens things up for Obi to attack the rim and be the roll man. Randle doesn’t need the space as badly as Obi seems to need it.

    82. Hubert: I’m into having players who offer you something different so the coach has options. Fournier and Burks have similar skill sets, whereas Fournier and Bullock would have given coach a defensive option when necessary. I feel the same way about the Center position, too. I think Mitch and a stretch 5 makes more sense than Mitch & Noel.

      I think this makes sense, the flipside is that having built in redundancy makes it easier to have the next man up replace an injured starter. If Bullock replaces Fournier, you can’t run certain sets (anything with a SG attacking the basket). If Burks replaces Fournier, there will be differences in playstyles but less schematic overhaul.

    83. He improved our position significantly despite several GM level mistakes.

      He’s talking about drafting Frank Ntilikina

    84. thenoblefacehumper: He’s talking about drafting Frank Ntilikina

      Unlike you, Phil values defense, ball movement, and team oriented play appropriately and wouldn’t have been dumb enough to try to turn him into a ball dominant scoring PG like the Knicks foolishly did for years. He would have opted for the superior multiple ball handling and multiple playmaking model (kind of like we used last year), and signed a triangle player guard instead of Hardaway.

      Frank will get one more chance to overcome the Knicks with a team that at least seems to get what his role should be. He’ll try to earn a backup spot behind Bullock and be on the court with either Doncic or Brunson handling the ball and either KP or Hardaway as another scorer. That will take the pressure off Doncic defensively (as Bullock will do in the starting lineup) and add another guy to move the ball and hopefully knock down corner 3s. I love what the Mavs are doing. Getting rid of the Carlisle/Haralabos strategy was a huge step in the right direction. Whether Kidd was the right choice remains to be seen, but at least he knows how to play winning basketball on both ends.

    85. My point is that assuming you have gotten past your biases, because experience/cynicism or some other reason, may need a reassessment. As in no, perhaps you haven’t.

      Raven,

      I’m 100% sure I haven’t gotten past my biases. I’ve literally been fighting one in particular for over 45 years and still can’t get past it. Every bit of evidence that confirms the view I had in my teens excites me. The mountains of evidence that indicate otherwise makes me looks for ways to shoot holes in it.

      I guess being intelligent helps you become aware these biases exist. If I was a total dummy that would be a problem.(I know some of you think I am lol) But really, when it comes to news reporting I think my cynicism from catching all the lies over the decades it what made me throw up my hands and say, “I can’t trust any of them. I have to dig deeper on my own if I really care about this subject”.

    86. Z-man: What the fuck does this mean?The dumbest “smart” people I know are short-haired beardless white collar seniors with their heads stuck up the white bread racist/misogynist/homophobic/xenophobic/America-love-it-or-leave-it mindset of the 1950s. Stop with the moronic “youth is wasted on the young” condescending bullshit.You sound like a total schmuck who gives people our age a bad name.

      I’m not sure how saying the cynicism that experience gives you is one advantage of being older is being turned into all the nonsense you are spouting, but I can assure you I’m not intentionally putting anyone down. I only fire back when I am fired at first. I was explaining how I went from naive youth in a time when journalism was trustworthy to the cynical media hater in the cesspool we live in now and how that cynicism is an advantage for cutting through the BS.

    87. Z-man:
      Krugman is not a reporter. He is an economics scholar and in his role with the Times, an op-ed journalist.Friedman is an expert on global affairs, particularly Middle East current events.He is also not a reporter.

      Krugman is a political hack and hired gun masquerading as an expert economist. And don’t tell me he’s a Nobel Prize winner. His Nobel Prize is approximately equal to a DPOY award for Frank if I was the only voter. lol These bozos just give awards to each other based on how how well they espouse the “correct and approved” views.

    88. “Krugman is a political hack and hired gun masquerading as an expert economist.”

      Krugman went broke betting the ponies. Total fraud.

    89. Strat is the clear frontrunner for the all-time KB laughingstock. Nice rep you’ve built here, enjoy it!

    90. Z-man:
      Strat is the clear frontrunner for the all-time KB laughingstock. Nice rep you’ve built here, enjoy it!

      You thinking I am a laughing stock is a huge compliment.

    91. I mean, seriously, Krugman may be a political hack now, fine, and he may have been spectacularly wrong about the Internet, but no one doubts his economic chops. You don’t win a Clark Medal and a Nobel at 55 just for being agreeable.

    92. Deeefense: I’m not sure how saying the cynicism that experience gives you is one advantage of being older is being turned into all the nonsense you are spouting, but I can assure you I’m not intentionally putting anyone down.I only fire back when I am fired at first.I was explaining how I went from naive youth in a time when journalism was trustworthy to the cynical media hater in the cesspool we live in now and how that cynicism is an advantage for cutting through the BS.

      No, you’re explaining how, contrary to many folks, you’ve actually gotten dumber with age. And the sad thing is that it has nothing to do with dementia. It’s just a faux intellectual arrogance that has no basis in anyone’s reality but your own. You live in a safe little intellectual world where you think you have it all figured out and that the whippersnappers on KB are inferior because they don’t have your “practical” experience. It’s a particularly delusional kind of dumbness, sort of a self-inflicted loneliness where you’ve constructed a world in which no one is worthy but you. I only wish I could be so delusional that I could be happy in that kind of world.

    93. Deeefense: You thinking I am a laughing stock is a huge compliment.

      It doesn’t take a poll to determine that it’s a consensus opinion. I’m just reporting the news, unbiased and uncensored.

    94. Owen:
      “Krugman is a political hack and hired gun masquerading as an expert economist.”

      Krugman went broke betting the ponies. Total fraud.

      I’m not sure if you are just going for the joke, egging me on, or serious, but If you can’t see that Krugman is a hired gun political hack I don’t know what to say. I’m not even sure he’s a good hired gun. No one that is serious about money and economics cares what that fool thinks when there are brilliant minds out there with little or no political agenda offering insights.

    95. Z-man:
      Well after this, I can honestly say that I’d rather have drafted Kevin Knox than this guy.

      He had Covid twice so he must have 84 times the protection you get from a vaccine

    96. Z-man: It doesn’t take a poll to determine that it’s a consensus opinion. I’m just reporting the news, unbiased and uncensored.

      Then it’s a widespread compliment.

    97. No one that is serious about money and economics cares what that fool thinks when there are brilliant minds out there with little or no political agenda offering insights.

      Strat, you’re an advocate of the Austrian School, which is REALLY not taken seriously by anyone except you and maybe Michele Bachmann. It’s a school of economics that doesn’t even fucking use math.

      Go take a time out for a few minutes.

    98. Z-man:
      Strat is the clear frontrunner for the all-time KB laughingstock. Nice rep you’ve built here, enjoy it!

      Do you get along with anybody?

    99. I’m not here to offer an opinion on Krugman, but I agree with strat that the nobel prize committee has, for a long time, largely functioned as a politicized, self congratulatory body.

      Also… Squid Game is dope AF.

    100. Z-man: No, you’re explaining how, contrary to many folks, you’ve actually gotten dumber with age. And the sad thing is that it has nothing to do with dementia. It’s just a faux intellectual arrogance that has no basis in anyone’s reality but your own. You live in a safe little intellectual world where you think you have it all figured out and that the whippersnappers on KB are inferior because they don’t have your “practical” experience. It’s a particularly delusional kind of dumbness, sort of a self-inflicted loneliness where you’ve constructed a world in which no one is worthy but you. I only wish I could be so delusional that I could be happy in that kind of world.

      Either I am a bad communicator or you have terrible reading comprehension.

      I wish I could get a bet down with the universe that in 10 years everyone here will admit they befitted from the experience of being older and making mistakes and that if the media continues on its same path their growing skepticism and cynicism will be a benefit to them in evaluating that kind of thing.

      WTF does that have to do with me thinking I am superior?

      You are the one that’s delusional if you think I’m putting people down or think they are inferior etc..

      People can be ahead me in many ways (except when it comes to Frank and KP lol) and still benefit from experience and growing cynicism. I am saying the media sucks now, it took a lot of time for that to occur, it took a lot of time for me to figure that out, and if you don’t think that now, I think you eventually will. That’s it.

    101. Strat is the clear frontrunner for the all-time KB laughingstock. Nice rep you’ve built here, enjoy it!

      flag on the play. Unsportsmanlike conduct. Personal attack. 15 yards.

    102. I am only in my mid-40s, but I have grown less and less cynical with age. Maybe it comes from having kids, or maybe I am overcompensating for a world gone wrong, but I believe in love and magic way more than my 20-year-old self did.

    103. JK47: Strat, you’re an advocate of the Austrian School, which is REALLY not taken seriously by anyone except you and maybe Michele Bachmann. It’s a school of economics that doesn’t even fucking use math.

      Go take a time out for a few minutes.

      No one talks about Austrian analysis except a load of billionaires, future billionaires, and other rich investors. :-)

      I like aspects of Austrian theory, but what I really like is analysis that describes what is happening in the real world and what will likely happen in the real world as a result of boneheaded policy by guys like Krugman. I disdain political hacks that think they are always smarter than markets . They create political policies that often do more damage than good. It’s hard for the smartest people on the planet to be smarter than the market more than on rare occasions, though even a novice like me is pretty sure all this cheap money is going to bite US markets in the ass eventually.

    104. Sounds like Strat thinks Krugman is a hack because he doesn’t agree with Krugman’s opinions.

    105. Strat, I love you. I really don’t mean to offend.

      My observation would be that your communication style is a very odd blend of acting like an expert while also professing to be a novice. It’s often both at once, as it is in this conversation.

      Krugman’s biggest economic positions for the last 15 years have been that we don’t need to worry about inflation, that we should borrow liberally to stimulate the economy, and that we can raise taxes more than Laffer thought. Those have panned out for him, which you know because it’s exactly what Trump did when he came to office, minus the tax hikes. I don’t know who the bigger Keynesian is between the two honestly.

      Anyway, back to the Knicks.

    106. So, the vaccines, media bias, and you only get wisdom by ageing got us almost in regular season form. But i’m missing something… what can it be? That’s it, we need A NEW FRANK! :D

    107. My observation would be that your communication style is a very odd blend of acting like an expert while also professing to be a novice. It’s often both at once, as it is in this conversation.

      Eventually, some things become obvious even to a novice.

      I’m not sure how anyone could think we can run massive deficits indefinitely, finance them to a large extent via the printing press, have negative real rates of interest, add 3.5 trillion on top of that mess, and think there will be no economic costs in other ways. But I’ll tell what will happen. That insanity will manifest itself badly somehow and somewhere. Then the lying/incompetent politicians, lying/incompetent media, lying/incompetent hired gun economists, lying/incompetent central bankers and scumbag Wall St robber barons will publicly blame it on something/someone else because they are all either scumbags or incompetents. And many people will believe their nonsense and spins when they blame others.

      What I can’t do is give exact dates or the exact way it will manifest. No one can. That will depend on how people behave and future actions by authorities. All you can do is the same thing you do when the weatherman says a hurricane is heading your way. You prepare and look for signs it’s about to hit.

    108. I don’t mind the vaccine talk because I think even the natural immunity people have a fair bit of scientific theory and empirical evidence that backs up their points… and after all, this pandemic is literally the most important thing that has happened to the world probably since WWII.

      I am not an economics guy, so can’t really participate in whatever it is people are talking about there.

      But I can say for sure – I am really happy basketball is about to really start up.

    109. Deeefense: Then the lying/incompetent politicians, lying/incompetent media, lying/incompetent hired gun economists, lying/incompetent central bankers and scumbag Wall St robber barons will publicly blame it on something/someone else because they are all either scumbags or incompetents.

      Actually what will likely happen is what happened in 2008 — Wall Street will receive massive public subsidies to recoup their losses. When you’ve bought the government, there’s no need to resort to such grubby things as scapegoating.

    110. there’s no “I guess”, Z-Man. Everyone else attacked the argument, and you attacked the person. I’m not trying to pick on you here, but this kind of thing should be noted, if only to help curb future predicaments.

    111. > I’m not sure how anyone could think we can run massive deficits indefinitely, finance them to a large extent via the printing press, have negative real rates of interest, add 3.5 trillion on top of that mess, and think there will be no economic costs in other ways.

      Deficits to conservatives are like 3D Television to Ralph Kramdem. It’s just used when they need a convenient excuse to stop what the other side is doing. If conservatives really believed in the deficit, they might actually reduce it when in office. Or at least not increase the gap, as they always do.

      I grew up a Republican in a Reagan household. I’ve been hearing about how the deficit/debt is going to destroy this country for 40+ years now. Still waiting for that day to happen…

    112. yo, E, you know the government has made a profit of over $100 billion on the bailout, right? And that number grows every day bc it received revenue generating securities that it still holds. Not to mention all the tax revenue it’s made as a result of stemming the crisis in the first place.

      That was the best instance of crisis handling we’re likely to see in our lifetimes. Unlike the anti-vaxxers, no one pretended to know what was going on, so everyone just shut up and listened to leadership (and leadership — i.e. Paulson, Kashmiri, Bernanke, Geithner — was excellent).

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