Knicks Morning News (2014.11.25)

  • [New York Newsday] Carmelo Anthony goes out with back spasms and Knicks lose tough fight with Rockets (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:28:07 EST)

    Carmelo Anthony was doubled over and wincing late in the first half before slowly walking off the court and into the locker room. Nearly two hours later, he still was grimacing and walking very gingerly as he left the arena.

  • [New York Times] Rockets 91, Knicks 86: In Latest Loss, Carmelo Anthony Hurts Back to Add to Knicks’ Woes (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 05:09:43 GMT)

    Troubled by what the team described as back spasms, Anthony left the court late in the first half and missed the remainder of the game.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Blazers Drop Sixers to 0-14 (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 04:54:29 GMT)

    LaMarcus Aldridge had 15 of his 33 points during the pivotal third quarter at Philadelphia, sending Portland to a 114-104 victory.

  • [New York Times] Butler, Gasol Lead Bulls Over Jazz 97-95 (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 04:52:47 GMT)

    Jimmy Butler scored 25 points and Pau Gasol added 23 points and nine rebounds to lead the Chicago Bulls to a 97-95 victory over the Utah Jazz on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Sloan Leads Pacers Over Mavericks 111-100 (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 04:34:36 GMT)

    Donald Sloan scored 29 points and seven Indiana Pacers scored in double figures in a 111-100 victory over the Dallas Mavericks on Monday.

  • [New York Times] Harden Leads Depleted Rockets Over Knicks 91-86 (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 03:55:46 GMT)

    James Harden had 36 points to lead the depleted Houston Rockets to a 91-86 victory over the slumping New York Knicks on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Griffin, Paul Lead Clippers Over Hornets 113-92 (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 03:49:58 GMT)

    Chris Paul said he spoke with Blake Griffin recently about getting back to what the Los Angeles Clippers do best.

  • [New York Times] Valanciunas Leads Raptors Over Suns 104-100 (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 03:16:59 GMT)

    Jonas Valanciunas had a career-high 27 points and 11 rebounds, DeMar DeRozan scored 23 and the Toronto Raptors won their fifth straight game, beating the Phoenix Suns 104-100 Monday night.

  • [New York Times] LeBron James Leads Cavaliers Over Magic 106-74 (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 02:46:43 GMT)

    LeBron James scored 29 points, including 16 in the first quarter, and the Cleveland Cavaliers broke a four-game losing streak with a 106-74 win over the Orlando Magic on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Aldridge Leads Blazers Over 76ers 114-104 (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 02:43:43 GMT)

    LaMarcus Aldridge had 15 of his 33 points during the pivotal third quarter to help the Portland Trail Blazers defeat Philadelphia 114-104 on Monday night, sending the 76ers to their 14th straight loss to open the season.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks have a problem in Houston as Carmelo Anthony hurt (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:52:30 GMT)

    The Knicks didn’t have to find out what life would be like long-term without Carmelo Anthony when he spurned this city for the Knicks.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks Insider: Amar’e says ‘angel’ called fouls for Harden (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:40:37 GMT)

    The Knicks were engaged in a close game Wednesday night despite Carmelo Anthony’s absence for the entire second half with back spasms.

  • [New York Post] Amar’e can’t hold tongue, gets creative in slamming refs (Tue, 25 Nov 2014 01:41:13 -0500)

    HOUSTON — Amar'e Stoudemire feels the Knicks were struck down by angels Monday night. Stoudemire chose an interesting metaphor to describe the way James Harden rallied the Rockets to victory….

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    47 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2014.11.25)”

    1. It is impossible to overstate how bad Amar’e is at defending the pick and roll. Seeing him in a profession that puts him in a position to regularly attempt this is like watching National League pitchers hit. Or Jon Barry broadcast.

    2. Yes. Amare can’t defend the PnR.

      What’s interesting is that as bad as he is, he’s better than he was. He has elevated his defensive play from abysmal to horrible. He has taken charges. He is blocking the occasional shot. He’s getting some rebounds.

      What I find interesting is that after he makes an idiotic defensive play, he seems to know it because he turns into a monster on offense for the next play.

      By the way, JR, Jason Smith and THjr are pissing me off more. They aren’t defending and aren’t playing well on offense. Why do they get on the court?

    3. If there was one encouraging sign from last night, it was that they actually seemed committed to playing some semblance of defense. Of course, a big reason the Rockets only scored 91 points was some hideous turnovers (and not having 3 starters), but I at least got the impression that the Knicks were trying to close out on shooters and actually stay with their man. Pretty low bar, I know.

      And I am counting the days to when I don’t have to watch JR Smith play basketball for my team any more.

    4. For the life of me, I don’t understand why Jason Smith isn’t glued to the bench. I would play Cole 25mpg instead of Smith, who knows how to score the ball from the midrange, knows how to stare down LeBron, and almost nothing else. His defense looks better than Amar’e’s, but if you look enough you’ll know that he’s a useless (bordering on detrimental) defensive player. I’ll be happier, for comical reasons, when Bargs will replace Smith’s minutes. Now that Melo is hurt, we’ll be able to see a Calderon-Hardaway-JR Smith-Bargs-Amar’e quintet. Wow.

    5. By the way, JR, Jason Smith and THjr are pissing me off more. They aren’t defending and aren’t playing well on offense. Why do they get on the court?

      Well who else are we going to play?

    6. Anyway I’d prefer watching a Jose-Shump-Hardaway-Melo-Cole, with Prigs, Early, Larkin, Wear, Amar’e and Acy coming out of the bench above any of the other guys. That’s how bad it is. No Smiths, no Bargs, no Dalembert (who makes no sense in this roster anyway, why don’t we send him to Cleveland or to Houston? Any spare 2nd rounder does it for me). I don’t care if we lose by 30 any given night. I want to see guys trying to do something resembling intelligent basketball.

    7. This team doesn’t care; they all know it’s about next year and this year doesn’t matter.
      Most of these guys will be gone next year.

      It feels as bad as the Starbury years.

    8. Dalembert to Cleveland is something I’d like to see. For anything, really. Sam’s a fine NBA player, but honestly, what’s the fucking point? He’s gone next year. He’s not someone young we could be plausibly developing (like the Wear Bear, who at least is kinda young).

    9. We also need to play JR if we’re going to have any chance of somehow, someway finding some desperate suckers to take him off our hands.

    10. I’ll just toss out this Zach Lowe line for giggles:

      “But Dallas also viewed Chandler as a keystone in what could be a historically great offense — a scoring machine so ruthless, the Mavs could chase a title in Dirk Nowitzki’s twilight without an elite defense.”

      SMH. He can’t shoot jumpshots for shit!

    11. Hey there, you’re just teasing people like that. That’s like pouring gasoline on the straws, lighter on hand.

    12. The West has 9 teams over .600 right now. The East has 3 (and that doesn’t even take into account that the Eastern teams get to play Philadelphia twice as often!)

    13. The Combined winning% of the teams the Knicks have beaten this year is .290 (Denver is actually the best team they’ve beaten thus far, record wise!)

    14. –The West has 9 teams over .600 right now. The East has 3 (and that doesn’t even take into account that the Eastern teams get to play Philadelphia twice as often!)

      Have you been asleep for the last decade? You arent really breaking news. There have been a few 50 win 8 seeds in the last few years. I know Denver was one

    15. “Oh I don’t know. Jesus. He’s got to get out there and play,” Thibodeau said. “I thought he did a lot of good things. You could see he’s not real comfortable with the ball yet, but that will come. When Derrick strings some games together, he’s going to take off. He’s got to go. That’s the bottom line. He’s got to go.”

      psychopath

    16. Did they require an interpreter to transcribe those comments from Thibodeau? I feel like between ceaselessly yelling at/berating/verbally scarring his players, kids and wife, the things he says are barely discernible at this point.

    17. @9 – You must not remember those Starbury years. Those were epic.

      @15 – Why is there a bulls-eye on my back? I’m dropping to my knees to profess my love for TC right here and now.

      @20 – Will Youtube work? Epic Bargnani dunk

    18. That kind of fall is why I stay completely earthbound when I play ball. That and I can’t jump.

    19. This board is unnecessarily negative today. The Knicks lost by a few points on the road to one of the top Western conference teams. They worked reasonably hard up to the end and their defense was better than expected. Unlike some recent games, it was good enough to keep my interest until the end. By Knicks’ standards, this is a not so bad result.

    20. @27 – If you want COMPLETELY negative, go visit a Jet’s blog today ;)
      I happened to enjoy last night’s game. Also, I though Amare’s quote about angels fouling Harden was great. On that note, who else thought the refs were abysmal yesterday? And what about the idiots working the shot-clock? And the ushers? And the vendors? … Alright, I’ll give the ushers and vendors a break.

    21. Let’s face it, this team sucks. They are one of the worst teams in the NBA.

      The only thing I’m still interested in is the development of Shump, Hardaway Jr, Early, and to a lesser extent Antetokounmpo. At least 2 of those guys have to break out into solid 2 way players for us to start getting optimistic about next year. Right now the only one even close is Shump, but he’s still not there on offense and if you ask me he’s getting worse and worse on defense. He’s having mental lapses and having trouble keeping even moderate players in front of him this year. Hardaway has show very little over last year. All he can do is score and he’s not even great at that. It’s depressing in this thread because the Knicks are depressing. The thread reflects reality. It’s not unjustified.

    22. The PG, PF, and C has been horrible this season too. The SF position was horrible for a while also.

    23. Have you been asleep for the last decade? You arent really breaking news.

      When it happened in 2008 it was amazing, and it’s no less amazing that it continues to happen now. Also, though it may not be “news”, it is relevant that the Kings and Pelicans are playing at that level now.

    24. –SG has been the one non-Melo spot that is fine.

      No. Just no. Shump has scored more than 10 points once in the last 7 games and his defense has been mediocre. JR and Tim have been putrid.

    25. ALthough Hardaway has dissappointed me so far this season, I feel like we need some addition by subtraction and figure out a way to dump JR Smith. With him, Hardaway and Shump splitting minutes at the 2 spot, I feel like its hurting his development especially since Shump will play a lot of minutes bc of his D. I’d rather we dump JR, resign Shump and go into next year with Shump as our starting SG and Hardaway as our 6th man/second string SG. Are they an amazing SG combo? No. Not yet. But you’d have one still on his rookie contract for 3 more years and one going into the prime of his career. This is the type of development we need to promote in this organization.

    26. This really is such a down group. :(
      Did any of you expect much better? I didn’t, not yet at least. I figured they could have won two or three more games.
      I’m loving watching the Westchester Knicks. Thanasis Antetokounmpo impresses. He plays with passion. These players are playing like they want to be in the NBA.

    27. Watching Shump develop over the past 4 years has felt a lot like watching Wilson Chandler back when he was in NY. If you tuned in on a good day you’d say “wow, he’s gotta be a Knick for life”. But most days he was a gifted athletic player with fundamental flaws that significantly hampered his overall production. I was indifferent on whether WC stayed or went, and I feel the same about Shumpert. He’ll have a solid career, but I don’t think the Knicks would regret losing him before they have to pay him.

    28. I’d rather max out Jimmy Butler if that lunatic on the sideline doesn’t physically destroy him, than pay Shump something like 12 million a year, but it’s way too early to be making offseason plans yet anyhow.

    29. James Ennis 6 pts, 5 rebounds, 4 assists in 13 minutes tonight. I should really be running the Knicks.

    30. It is probably a good thing that Melo is hurt this season and it would be better for him to take the entire season off. Is anyone else worried about his durability through the rest of the contract though? I feel like he is always suffering from some kind of nagging injury. He gets small injuries that he plays through more than anyone I’ve ever seen. When most players get injured, they are out for a while and come back. Not Melo. He gets injuries too small to sit out for, and they end up nagging him for weeks until he gets another insignificant injury. It just seems like every time he drives to the hoop now (and last season) he grimaces (but never comes out of course).

    31. This board is unnecessarily negative today. The Knicks lost by a few points on the road to one of the top Western conference teams. They worked reasonably hard up to the end and their defense was better than expected. Unlike some recent games, it was good enough to keep my interest until the end. By Knicks’ standards, this is a not so bad result.

      I would hardly call a starting line up of Harden/Canaan/Ariza/Motiejunas/Black to be one of the top WC teams. Rockets at full strength? Probably. But not the team on the court last night.

    32. “It is impossible to overstate how bad Amar’e is at defending the pick and roll.”

      I name my son’s diapers worst diapers. The two most filthy, vile, execrable ones were dubbed “Amare’s pick n roll D” and “JD and the Poop Shot”

      I am not going to be running out of dirty diapers or nicknaming ideas for a long time with the way this season is going…

    33. Myles Turner is another guy I have my eye on for our draft pick next year. Long, defense-oriented rim protecting center who has some nice touch around the basket, surprisingly good shooting range and decent passing skills for a big. He went off tonight, albeit against rather flimsy competition: 25 points on 11 of 12 shooting, and also was 3-3 from 3PT! Also had 10 boards, 3 blocks and 0 turnovers.

      Karl Towns also dominated in limited minutes against crap opposition, and one of my favorite prospects, Stanley Johnson, had a pretty efficient game, scoring 14 on 8 FGA and snagging 7 boards in 25 minutes. Johnson plays for Arizona, and they played a more reasonable opponent, Kansas State. He’s a SICK perimeter defender.

    34. Am I wrong for wanting Mudiay even though we desperately need a good two-way big man–his stat line in the CBA is pretty solid for a college-age player and makes him really tantalizing imo.

    35. “Congrats on the baby, Owen. Is your son named David?”

      Nope, Henry, wants to be a Sixers fan from what he seems to be telling me when we talk knicks….

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