Knicks Morning News (2014.10.27)

  • [New York Times] New-Look NBA: TV Money Changing League Landscape (Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:31:00 GMT)

    The Associated Press will periodically look at the changing landscape of the NBA during the upcoming season from varied perspectives: A player’s viewpoint, from the bench, and from the business side. A look at how the new television contracts will impact the economics of the league is the third installment of the series:

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Game of the Week: Cavaliers vs. Bulls (Mon, 27 Oct 2014 03:47:25 GMT)

    Two of the teams expected to battle it out for supremacy in the Eastern Conference will face each other Friday as LeBron James and Cleveland visit Chicago and Derrick Rose.

  • [New York Times] Analysis: Good N.B.A. Teams Jostle to Join the Best in the West (Mon, 27 Oct 2014 00:26:32 GMT)

    A percolating class of teams is trying to break up the dominance of the Spurs and the Thunder in the Western Conference, where there is a reasonable chance that teams will need 50 wins just to make it to the playoffs.

  • [New York Daily News] For Carmelo Anthony, it’s only fitting that Knicks face Bulls in season opener (Mon, 27 Oct 2014 02:26:06 GMT)

    The entire Knicks’ roster and new coach Derek Fisher sat in a semi-circle at midcourt at the Garden on Sunday for a Q & A session with MSG before holding practice in front of a group of season-ticket holders. The fans began chanting “MVP” as Carmelo Anthony answered one of the questions.

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    23 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2014.10.27)”

    1. Who caught the special on the Triangle? Some good parts there with Phil and Fischer running through ball movement strategies but it really exposed how comically little Spike knows about basketball. There were some moments that were especially cringe worthy when he was talking with Fischer. And he would highlight certain “key phrases” like ‘hip-hop’ or ‘3=Small Forward’ for the advanced fan. Not exactly Spikes best work but I came away with even more confidence about the current brain trust.

    2. Per Marc Stein, we’ve traded Travis Outlaw to the 76ers, giving them a second round pick and the right two swap a future second rounder. We also apparently got Arnett Moultrie.

      Unless Moultrie is a prospect, and/or there’s some kind of substantial roster-building benefit — as opposed to just saving Jimmy Dolan and the Straight Shot some cash — I would much rather they have cut Outlaw than give up any assets at all to unload him.

    3. Moultrie is an interesting player. He’s 6’11” and has tremendous fluid athleticism. Runs like a gazelle and has great leaping ability. He was quite good in about 500 minutes in his rookie year with Philly but he fell off a cliff last year, languishing in the D-League for most of the season and eventually receiving a drug suspension that probably punched his ticket out of Philly. If he can get back to the level of efficiency he showed in his senior season in college and his rookie season in the pros, he’ll be a very intriguing pickup.

      It’s a buy-low move by Jackson, and I like it.

    4. I remember watching Moultrie at Miss St. He was pretty good. Phil did say he would look at end of bench players but who knows maybe Moultrie gets cut.

    5. You would think he would wind up at Westchester, no? There is absolutely zero downside to stashing him at Westchester and trying to get him back on track.

    6. “@9 except the lost pick.”
      A 2019 2nd round pick to save something like $7 million in salary and luxury tax this year. Second round picks are very easy to acquire (the Knicks and Nets combined to acquire 5 this year). The going rate to buy a 2nd round pick is about $1 million (which is about what the Knicks paid for the Labeyrie pick and what the Nets paid for each of 2 second round picks this year) so, overall, it was a very smart business decision. If there is a guy they want in the second round of the 2019 draft, they’ll buy a pick.

    7. I’m with Johno on this one. The optics of ditching a 2nd round pick just to keep some cash in Dolan’s pockets is never going to be good, but ultimately they can get a pick like that back without too much trouble. Makes sense for both teams as it costs Philly essentially zero to take Outlaw (since they’re below the floor I think), but saves us enough cash to make it worth throwing them a minor asset. Honestly don’t think anyone would bat an eye at this if we weren’t so used to being rightfully indignant about sacrificing picks in horribly lopsided deals.

    8. I’m never a fan of a business decision over a basketball decision.

      Question’s I have:
      1. Does Moultrie end up in Westchester? If so, we basically got a 2nd round talent back and we’ve only lost one pick.

      2. Is Phil working with a budget? We’ll likely never know, but Phil might think the money will be better spent at another time.

      3. Is there some salary tax voodoo I’m missing? I have no idea.

    9. Maybe Phil wants to keep his options open til the trade deadline and as such is trying to remove the 3m cap hit though I can’t think of how that would influence anything significantly.

      It’s not an issue since buying 2nd round picks is cheap as above posters have said–but I don’t understand why we wouldn’t just throw Moultree in the D-League rather than a full on waive, unless there’s a cap hit.

    10. Alecto, guys sent to the D-League who are on the roster still take up one of the 15 roster spots. It’s the reason we didn’t sign Greek Freakquel to an NBA contract: to save his spot. If Early goes to the D-League for a while, we’ll have 14 players with the NBA squad. Moultree was waived so we could keep Travis Wear.

    11. 2nd rounders may be cheap, but I’d still rather have an extra 2nd rounder than the cost of Outlaw’s contract which in no way affects our ability to make roster moves. Please someone correct me if I’m wrong about this.

    12. Ah ok, I’m always foggy about how d-league works.

      Does the 3M actually not affect our ability to make roster moves, or is it just implausible? That’s something that needs to be clarified. If it can’t possibly help at all, we should’ve just dropped Outlaw and ate the cap hit, but perhaps it was a dictum from Lord Jim himself because it certainly wouldn’t make basketball sense in that context.

    13. The $3 million doesn’t affect their ability to make moves, outside of the fact that if they cut Outlaw, his $3 million remains on the cap even after he is gone, so the Knicks have to pay luxury tax on it. So rather than cut him and pay luxury tax, they traded a second round pick (and the right to swap a second round pick in the future) to save the salary and the luxury tax cost. So this is all about the Benjamins.

    14. I think it saves Jimmy around 7 million bucks. Fuck Dolan now and forever, but that’s a real sum of money.

    15. Oh yeah, it’s a lot of money so I don’t think it is a big deal in the grand scheme of things. That said, it also hurt their basketball team ever so slightly, so I care about that more than him saving even a significant chunk of change (and it is a significant chunk of change).

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