Knicks Morning News (2014.10.13)

  • [New York Newsday] Phil Jackson: We haven't seen Carmelo Anthony's best yet (Mon, 13 Oct 2014 00:38:49 EDT)

    Knicks president Phil Jackson believes the best is yet to come for Carmelo Anthony.

  • [New York Daily News] Tim Hardaway making impact for Knicks off the bench (Mon, 13 Oct 2014 05:04:13 GMT)

    J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert each have started one of the Knicks’ first two games at shooting guard, but Tim Hardaway Jr. continues to emerge as a scoring option off the bench for first-year coach Derek Fisher.

  • [New York Daily News] Phil Jackson defends James Dolan’s ownership of Knicks: ‘He had to meddle’ (Mon, 13 Oct 2014 04:58:48 GMT)

    Phil Jackson absolved James Dolan for all the dysfunction and losing that has characterized the Knicks for nearly 15 years, claiming that the Garden Chairman was forced to become involved in the day-to-day operations of the club.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Basketball: Nets Edge the Kings in Shanghai (Mon, 13 Oct 2014 04:30:14 GMT)

    Mirza Teletovic made a 3-pointer with less than a minute remaining to lift the Nets to a 97-95 preseason win over the Sacramento Kings in Shanghai.

  • [New York Times] Warriors Blitz Lakers Early in 116-75 Rout (Mon, 13 Oct 2014 04:24:17 GMT)

    Stephen Curry scored 12 of his 25 points in the first 2 1/2 minutes, helping the Golden State Warriors get off to a fast start and beat the banged-up Los Angeles Lakers 116-75 in a preseason game Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Matthews Helps Trail Blazers Beat Clippers 119-114 (Mon, 13 Oct 2014 03:54:07 GMT)

    Wesley Matthews scored 22 points, Portland was 17 of 25 from 3-point range and the Trail Blazers beat the Los Angeles Clippers 119-114 in an exhibition game Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Nowitzki Scores 16, Mavericks Beat Pacers 106-98 (Mon, 13 Oct 2014 02:27:06 GMT)

    Dirk Nowitzki scored 16 points in his preseason debut, and the Dallas Mavericks beat the Indiana Pacers 106-98 on Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Shaquille O’Neal Has His Hands Full as a Pitchman (Mon, 13 Oct 2014 01:40:40 GMT)

    Shaquille O’Neal, the former N.B.A. All-Star, has earned millions by promoting a wide variety of products, such as jewelry and soda.

  • [New York Times] Kevin Durant May Be Sidelined for 2 Months With Foot Injury (Mon, 13 Oct 2014 00:06:25 GMT)

    The Oklahoma City forward, last season’s leading scorer and N.B.A. M.V.P., has a fractured bone in his right foot.

  • [New York Times] National Basketball Association Roundup (Mon, 13 Oct 2014 00:00:07 GMT)

    Oklahoma City Thunder star Kevin Durant could miss six to eight weeks with a foot fracture.

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] Phil takes playful shot at Spike Lee (Mon, 13 Oct 2014 02:13:57 EDT)

    Phil Jackson took a playful shot at Knicks super fan Spike Lee on Sunday. Lee is making a film for MSG Network about Jackson’s triangle offense. Jackson was asked about Lee during a talk at the New Yorker Festival in Manhattan on Sunday evening. “As most people know, Spike is an avid Knick fan that doesn’t know anything about basketball,” Jackson said, drawing laughs from the crowd. “He knows how someone makes a shake and bake move and might dazzle the fans and make a shot.

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    44 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2014.10.13)”

    1. Proof that Phil Jackson is untrustworthy, or doesn’t know what he’s doing.

      http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11691714/phil-jackson-new-york-knicks-james-dolan-meddle-decisions

      “Some of the ways that the teams have been handled, some of the decisions that have been made on players that were brought in and were costly to the organization, hampered and handcuffed them to making changes. So he (Dolan) felt obliged and obligated to get involved in it so he could correct the inadequacies or errant direction in which the organization was going. … So he’s been involved in it on some level, and as a result there are some things that have happened where he’s looked like he’s meddled. And I think he had to meddle at some point. He was almost forced to meddle in some situations. That word meddle might be a little bit harsh to even use.”

    2. Or he’s just massaging Dolan’s ego.

      Then again you’re probably more knowledgeable than Phil Jackson when it comes to basketball.

    3. He’s definitely massaging the ego. What’s he going to say? Here’s the alternative:

      “We all know that James Dolan has given me complete authority to manage the team as I see fit. That said, James Dolan is a silver-spoon dolt who knows nothing about basketball (or blues rock, for that matter). It’s always wise to bite the hand that feeds, so here we go: Dolan meddles because he feels that he has to, even though he knows nothing about managing a basketball team. It’s like Shaq trying to teach Kobe how to shoot a free throw, except Shaq is a bumbling idiot who has no skill whatsoever, and knows nothing about nothing, except for how to pay sessions musicians to tolerate his lack of talent for a sizable, and well-earned (given the circumstances), paycheck.”

    4. We have two hypotheses that both explain the evidence equally well but are also incompatible. However, we also have a large swath of evidence that Phil Jackson is not an idiot. Therefore, we should accept the theory that Phil Jackson doesn’t want to get fired.

    5. Well, the third hypothesis is that even entertaining the question is dumb. Phil’s best answer should be, “Whatever went on before I got here is irrelevant and I have no comment on it. The past is the past and can’t be changed. My job is to have a vision for this team given the current circumstances and realities, and to make decisions going forward that lead us towards that vision. Mr. Dolan has assured me that I will have full discretion on player personnel moves. He has been true to his word thus far and I have every confidence that he will continue to support me in this regard. But at the end of the day, it’s his team.

      Phil’s candor is refreshing, but sometimes less is more. His stock answer should be, “That’s a question for Jim.”

    6. Its that confidence/cockiness that he is known for. He feels that there is no such thing as a question that could trip him up. And he normally is so good at answering questions that that is true, but he seems to treat it as too much of a challenge. Sort of like, “Go ahead. I dare you to trip me up. You won’t.”

    7. “Or he’s just massaging Dolan’s ego.”
      @2 Then, PJ’s not trustworthy based on what he told the press.

      “Then again you’re probably more knowledgeable than Phil Jackson when it comes to basketball.”
      @2 Every single trade and decision is automatically correct – because he’s Phil “Friggin” Jackson. He can’t be wrong. Ever.

    8. Therefore, we should accept the theory that Phil Jackson doesn’t want to get fired.

      But that means you can’t trust what PJ says (tells the press).

    9. But that means you can’t trust what PJ says (tells the press).

      When it comes to what Jackson says about Dolan; if you can’t read between the lines you’re missing out.

      When it comes to what he says about the rest of basketball operations, I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt and take him at his word until such a time as he demonstrates that the enormous wealth of experience (most of it being highly successful) he has accumulated amounts to not much more than getting really lucky (like…a lot).

    10. When it comes to what Jackson says about Dolan; if you can’t read between the lines you’re missing out.

      When it comes to what he says about the rest of basketball operations, I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt and take him at his word until such a time as he demonstrates . . . .

      I see, so you know when he’s lying and when he’s not. And we’ll start making a list of subjects he’s considered lying about and others we’ll know he’s perfectly honest.

      There are plenty of coaches and GM;s that tell it like it is. I’d prefer one of those. If he can’t divulge something, withdraw from making a false statement to the fans.

    11. This seems like a rather silly argument to be having. Jax is being a bit of a politician here, which quite frankly is a big part of his job. He’s not gonna call Blind Lemon Dolan out for being a meddling asshole. He seems to be correctly assessing the situation, and realizes that our fedora-ed owner may need a little ego boost from time to time because that’s the kind of sniveling little shit the billionaire is. Jax is quite savvy when it comes to using the media for his own ends.

    12. “But that means you can’t trust what PJ says (tells the press).”
      Wait a minute — are you going to stand there and tell me that an executive of a pro sports team isn’t honest with the press 100% of the time??? Shocking. I always thought that they told us (through the press) everything about everything. You mean when they send out signals that they are thinking of drafting or trading a specific guy, it’s sometimes a smokescreen? Wow. I must be living in a bubble. Next thing you’re going to say is that the President of the United States doesn’t tell the public everything that the CIA tells him.

    13. Seriously, come on. Phil gave a perfectly reasonable, diplomatic answer to the question. Could he have just no-commented? Sure, but even saying no comment or making a comment like Z-Man suggested in 5 could be interpreted as a slight at Dolan. It’s a guy making a comment about his boss to the press. If you expected him to slander him or even backhandedly diss him, I don’t know what to tell you other than that’s not a very savvy expectation.

      As JK47 said Phil has never been a straight shooter, he’s always playing mind games with someone. That’s who he is. I guess that bothers some people? To me it couldn’t matter less as long as it works. Whatever Phil has to do to keep Dolan pacified and out of basketball ops is fine by me. If that requires that Phil give a press conference every single day stating that Dolan was just awarded a Nobel Peace Prize, I’m 100% behind that.

    14. If that requires that Phil give a press conference every single day stating that Dolan was just awarded a Nobel Peace Prize, I’m 100% behind that.

      This.

      In fact, in that very same ESPN article it says this:

      Dolan has said that he isn’t as involved with the team now that Jackson has taken over.

      He instead has chosen to focus on working with his blues band, JD and the Straight Shot.

      “Hopefully, I can allow him to [play music] and relieve him of many of the pressure that’s about basketball,” Jackson said. “And we can go forward, and he can enjoy what he’s doing in the musical world.”

      For as long as this remains true, I’m going to pencil in Phil Jackson for President every election.

    15. PJ’s statements about Dolan are actually very factually driven and it would be hard for any of us to disagree with any of them. PJ says “He (Dolan) felt obliged to meddle”. That’s obviously a true statement. “It looked as if he meddled.” Again a true statement, since he did. “And I think he had to meddle at some point.” This statement is true if PJ believes that Dolan had to meddle at some point, only Jackson knows if this is true. “He was almost forced to meddle in some situations.” Note the use of “almost”. And certainly when there was overhaul in management and for the president Dolan is the one that has to make that choice. Take out your truth tables and double check because these statements are nearly impossible to contradict.

    16. I seriously don’t even understand why it matters if Phil Jackson is lying to us. If Dolan starts meddling again it will be very obvious it’s happening because instead of making marginally beneficial trades and acquiring some draft picks, we’ll be trading whatever assets we have moving forward for Josh Smith.

      This seems like a rather silly argument to be having. Jax is being a bit of a politician here, which quite frankly is a big part of his job. He’s not gonna call Blind Lemon Dolan out for being a meddling asshole. He seems to be correctly assessing the situation, and realizes that our fedora-ed owner may need a little ego boost from time to time because that’s the kind of sniveling little shit the billionaire is. Jax is quite savvy when it comes to using the media for his own ends

      Kind of how I saw it.

    17. Phil also said “Some of the ways that the teams have been handled, some of the decisions that have been made on players that were brought in and were costly to the organization, hampered and handcuffed them to making changes.” Is anyone here really arguing that was untrue or a political statement on his part? Phil then said Dolan felt he had to step in because of this, which is what owners are supposed to do. I think we’re making too much of his statements.

    18. You’re right. Maybe I’m making a bigger thing of it than it is. And it’s preseason and not much to talk about before the game.
      Anway, I’m a different type of fan than most people here. While wanting and hoping for the best, I look at my team with a critical eye. That includes players, coaches, execs and the decisions they make.
      Since PJ has come here, a lot of people look at him as a messiah that can’t do anything wrong. If PJ says or does something, who is anyone to question him? He’s Phil Fucken Jackson. Wrong! He a human being that’s going to make mistakes. And I, for one, will point them out.
      Sure, PJ is going to go down as one of the greatest NBA coaches of all time. As he should. But let’s not forget that, perhaps his biggest feat, was managing the egos of some of the most talented teams ever to take the court.
      Is Eric Spoestra one of the best coaches in NBA history. Most people would probably say not. But if Lebron took Spoelstra with him, and they won more titles, history would judge him much more favorably.
      As for Phil, he’s fallible. Just how fallible we’ll eventually find out. Is he going to be a front office genius or was he promoted to his level of incompetence.

      Watching and waiting for a championship for 40 years, I’m not going to jump on every trade and hiring with a rah rah attitude, like a lot of people here do.

      Peter Principle – a concept in management theory in which the selection of a candidate for a position is based on the candidate’s performance in his or her current role rather than on abilities relevant to the intended role.

    19. For as long as this remains true, I’m going to pencil in Phil Jackson for President every election.

      And Governor and Senate and House.

    20. It is crazy just how bad TH2 is at defense. He is Novak-bad 1v1. Incredibly athletic on the offensive end, but like a statue on defense. Kind of like STAT but I feel like STAT’s problems come from lack of awareness and instinct while TH2 is just not physically capable of staying with his man.

    21. 1st half, no Cole. This is not encouraging. Shump looks good, though.

      Personally, I think Fisher’s keeping him in reserve. Like a secret weapon. Cole won’t get much playing time all year, but once playoffs start he’ll unleash Hakeem Abdul-Colebarjuwon on a unsuspecting league and we’ll ride that gap toothed grin all the way to the promised land!

      Who’s with me?!

    22. Not for nothing, but I’m not feeling Fish’s suit tonight. That blue one though, man that was sharp.

    23. Fisher said after the game that he will start tightening up the rotations for the final 3 games following tomorrow night’s game.

    24. If Lou Williams is actually healthy again then damn, Toronto got themselves a steal there.

    25. I like that Fisher considers Bargs a “matchup problem.” You’re right, Coach, but not in quite the way that you meant it.

    26. Lou Williams was traded for John Salmons, and John Salmons was then cut a few weeks later. Now, Lou Williams is gonna tear us up four games this year and play for a good Raptors team. All for the price of one John Salmons, who might be no better than our resident Travis Outlaw.

    27. Salmons’ appeal was that his salary was almost entirely unguaranteed, so the Hawks were able to knock a bunch of money off of their cap by trading for him and then waiving him. Williams was out of the rotation by the end of the year and they really wanted to get out from under his deal. Apparently they were mistaken about him being finished as he sure looked back to his normal self tonight (he didn’t look that way last year for Atlanta).

    28. It’s early. The first few preseason games are a notch above summer league in the big scheme of things. Kyle Lowry is a much bigger problem for us than Lou Williams. Toronto is gonna be a handful in the East.

      One guy who I hate but think is very underappreciated is Tyler Hansbrough. The guy has a great motor and is a tone setter. I think his departure had a significant amount to do with Indiana’s malaise and Toronto’s ascendance.

      Jason Smith looked OK, certainly better than Bargnani.

      What was wrong with Timmy? He was a mess on both ends.

    29. Bargstime tonight? Coletime also. No Amar’e, Delambert?

      It’s going to be hard to find a rotation for Fisher where individuals with low bbalIQ combined with individuals with bad D won’t prevail. A least half of the roster falls in to that category. That thing is strong with the Knicks for a decade now. Fisher theoretically has 1000 combinations of teams to put on the floor. But whatever he does there will always be at least a guy on the court with great potential for gifing. And that’s so disruptive. I have my doubts that triangle can heal that fast. I think Fisher does it very well right now in exposing the bad teams within the team. I hope that political/economical and other reason don’t force him to mesh pearls with dreck. But even more than a transcendent second superstar Knicks need more Battiers, Korvers, Dunleavys, Thomases, Kidds……solid and smart two way guys…..in 2015 that is….

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