Knicks Morning News (2014.10.10)

  • [New York Times] Burke Has 22 and Jazz Down Blazers 109-105 (Fri, 10 Oct 2014 04:51:19 GMT)

    Trey Burke had 22 points and seven assists, and the Utah Jazz beat Portland 109-105 Thursday night for their second straight preseason victory over the Trail Blazers.

  • [New York Times] Nets and Dodgers Ponder a Complex Deal to Merge Assets (Fri, 10 Oct 2014 03:06:08 GMT)

    Mikhail D. Prokhorov, the Nets’ owner, is trying to create a new company by combining his team and arena assets with those owned by the investor group that bought the Los Angeles Dodgers two years ago.

  • [New York Times] Harden Leads Rockets Over Memphis as Howard Sits (Fri, 10 Oct 2014 03:03:09 GMT)

    James Harden scored 21 points to lead the Houston Rockets to a 113-93 preseason victory over the Memphis Grizzlies on Thursday night.

  • [New York Times] Caldwell-Pope, Drummond Lead Pistons Past Bucks (Fri, 10 Oct 2014 02:07:43 GMT)

    Kentavious Caldwell-Pope scored 20 points, Andre Drummond added 15 points and 16 rebounds, and the Detroit Pistons beat the Milwaukee Bucks 94-80 on Thursday night in a preseason game.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks coach Derek Fisher not upset over poor start in first preseason game (Fri, 10 Oct 2014 02:30:01 GMT)

    Derek Fisher doesn’t have to look too far for an example of another local team that absorbed some lumps during the preseason while taking a crash course in a complicated new offensive system.

  • [New York Newsday] Spike Lee produces documentary on Knicks' triangle offense (Fri, 10 Oct 2014 00:59:00 EDT)

    So it turns out the Knicks were not kidding when they warned us that this triangle offense stuff would take some getting used to — as we saw in their disjointed preseason-opening loss to the Celtics on Wednesday night.

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    15 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2014.10.10)”

    1. So Fisher is already considering Bargnani as an option. That’s not good. Fisher clearly has not watched enough tape on Bargnani. The issues we saw last year were in evidence Wednesday. The head fake-drive down the lane to nowhere. The weak 3-pt shot. The step-behindness on D. He had some nice boards and a couple of 3-point plays, but that’s the fool’s gold that got him the big contract. It would bother me if Fisher doesn’t pick up on that quickly.

      My hope is that Jason Smith demonstrates ASAP that he is the more effective player overall.

    2. I’m not too worried about Barnyarni, Fisher strikes me as an intelligent, no nonsense guy. After witnessing Bargs’ version of help defense (as in “help, I can’t play defense!”) I’m pretty sure Fisher will eventually stick his ass on the end of the bench where it belongs.

    3. The thing is, you don’t need to look at tape to know that Bargnani is a terrible player. His stats are so bad that the best case scenario is he improves to become a below-below-average player. If anything, watching tape could make one foolhardy enough to think that he could fix nearly a decade of suck.

    4. but we haven’t had a point guard who could play defense since. . .I don’t even know. Tony Douglas? I remember that he did something.

      Unfortunately that something was in the ACC and it never really carried over to the NBA. He kind of sucked, too.

      This is a great question, I wonder if Charlie Ward was actually the last guy. I don’t recall if Howard Eisley was a good defender, mostly because I cringed too much whenever he was playing.

    5. I was always a big fan of Derek Harper at both ends of the floor.

      I also think Chris Childs played some pretty decent D as well.

    6. You know the assistant coaches who have those defense drill pads to simulate long arms? I’m not even sure Bargnani could be one of those coaches.

    7. @3 essentially true, but you have often said that there are only 2 coaches in recent years who have been able to improve player performance from their career norms: Jackson and Popovich. So it would be logical to believe that Jackson/Fisher would look at the stats, and then examine tape to see why the numbers have been so bad. If they had done so, they would hopefully have concluded that the problems with Bargnani are more deeply rooted than anything either he or Pop could resolve. He’s that toxic mix of talent and basketball-dumbness that superficially looks to be a couple of tweaks and a better system away from effectiveness.

      I wonder how much of trying to work him in is related to bumping up his trade value. As the season goes on, some team with lots of injuries might become desperate for a “scoring big”. Maybe they can pawn him off in January for a trade exception/2nd round pick/expiring.

    8. I wonder if a half season of mediocre play will increase his value enough to make him tradable.

      Moving Bargnani will be a lot like buying a ’91 Geo Metro for $40,000 and then trying to convince your potential buyers that it’s worth that much because you (1) paid $40,000 for it and (2) put new tires on it.

    9. Moving Bargnani will be a lot like buying a ’91 Geo Metro for $40,000 and then trying to convince your potential buyers that it’s worth that much because you (1) paid $40,000 for it and (2) put new tires on it.

      So you’re saying there’s a chance

    10. It’s interesting to note than Bargnani’s numbers are about as bad as Mike Beasley, a guy who is now officially out of the league and playing in China despite being a super hyped high lotto pick. I guess Bargs’s lack of a crippling pot habit is our loss.

    11. well, they’d be paying a lot less than we did for the metro, and only for a half a season. no one’s trying to recoup the entire investment.

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