Knicks Morning News (2014.10.07)

  • [New York Daily News] Tim Hardaway Jr. and Iman Shumpert join Amar’e Stoudemire on sideline (Tue, 07 Oct 2014 03:36:52 GMT)

    A few Knicks emerged banged up from Derek Fisher’s boot camp in West Point, with guards Tim Hardaway Jr. and Iman Shumpert joining Amar’e Stoudemire on the sidelines for the contact portions of practices Saturday and Monday in Greenburgh.

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: NBA owners crying poverty need to be whistled after new TV mega-deal (Tue, 07 Oct 2014 02:30:43 GMT)

    Upon further review, Carmelo Anthony gave the Knicks a much bigger hometown discount than originally reported. His $124 million, five-year contract could look like chump change compared to the deals LeBron James and Kevin Durant are expected to sign in two years once the NBA’s new television deal kicks in.

  • [New York Daily News] Carmelo Anthony ‘never thought about’ two-year deal with Knicks to cash in on NBA TV contract (Tue, 07 Oct 2014 02:19:58 GMT)

    Carmelo Anthony says he “never thought about” accepting a two-year contract like LeBron James did this summer, even if it meant missing out on the windfall from the landmark $24 billion TV deal the NBA has agreed to with ESPN and TNT.

  • [New York Times] With Purpose and Perspective, Nets’ Kevin Garnett Enters His 20th Season (Tue, 07 Oct 2014 05:07:25 GMT)

    Garnett, 38, the only player left in the N.B.A. from the 1995 draft class, is expected to be a part of the Nets’ starting lineup this season, which may or may not be his last.

  • [New York Times] Bryant Scores 13 Points, Lakers Beat Nuggets 98-95 (Tue, 07 Oct 2014 04:58:26 GMT)

    Kobe Bryant had 13 points and five assists while playing 21 minutes as the Los Angeles Lakers beat the Denver Nuggets 98-95 in a preseason game Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Noah, Pierce Exchange Shoves, Wizards Beat Bulls (Tue, 07 Oct 2014 03:10:20 GMT)

    Glen Rice scored 18 points, Marcin Gortat had 13 points and 10 rebounds, and the Washington Wizards beat the Chicago Bulls 85-81 on Monday night in the preseason opener for both teams.

  • [New York Times] Celtics Beat 76ers 98-78 in Exhibition Debut (Tue, 07 Oct 2014 02:31:19 GMT)

    Evan Turner and Brandon Bass scored 15 points apiece, and the Boston Celtics outscored the Philadelphia 76ers 21-5 over the first 7 ½ minutes of the fourth quarter in a 98-78 victory Monday night in the preseason opener for both teams.

  • [New York Times] John Jenkins, Hawks Hold Off Pelicans, 93-87 (Tue, 07 Oct 2014 02:10:24 GMT)

    John Jenkins scored 13 points, making a 3-pointer with less than 2 minutes remaining to help stop New Orleans’ comeback, and Atlanta beat the Pelicans 93-87 on Monday night in the Hawks’ preseason opener.

  • [New York Times] ESPN Will Stream Out-of-Market Games on Web as Part of N.B.A. Deal (Tue, 07 Oct 2014 01:43:08 GMT)

    The N.B.A.’s new deals with ESPN and Turner Sports will offer more games and highlights and, for fans who have cut the cable cord, more access to viewing.

  • [New York Times] On Pro Basketball: Owners Can’t Line Their Pockets Now and Cry Poverty Later, LeBron James Says (Tue, 07 Oct 2014 01:14:22 GMT)

    With the N.B.A. announcing $24 billion worth of television contract deals, James threw down the gauntlet on future collective bargaining negotiations.

  • [New York Times] National Basketball Association Roundup (Tue, 07 Oct 2014 00:28:09 GMT)

    New media rights deals with Turner and ESPN could bring the NBA as much as a 186 percent revenue increase over its existing broadcasting rights deal, which runs through 2015-16.

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    23 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2014.10.07)”

    1. Man, I’m really worried about another work stoppage in 2017. How can the new union head not push for another work stoppage in 2017? The players are going to be making the owners billions in 2017 and yet be capped out at just 51% of the league revenue when they used to get 57% when sports weren’t nearly as valuable of a commodity as they are now (to put it into perspective, the salary cap was $58 million in 2010 when the players made 57% of league revenue. It could easily be $82 million under a 51% take in 2016! That’s an increase of $720 million in revenue in six years!!!) How do you stand for that if you’re the player’s union?

      If I’m the players I try to go for the following:

      55% revenue split (they’re never getting 57% back again after they accepted 51% – I would probably settle at splitting the baby and making it 54%).
      No restrictions on Mid-Level Contracts, where players rake in the most relative money (MLE contracts are the worst contracts in the world for NBA teams and therefore, the best contracts for the players)
      Greater incentives for players to re-sign with their current team. Melo, for instance, should have had a much greater financial incentive to re-sign with the Knicks than he did.
      Erasure of the extend and trade restrictions. That’s just a dumb rule invented by scared small market owners. The players end up leaving anyways, it just reduces the return they can get on their star player because the acquiring team isn’t allowed to extend him (as I mentioned yesterday, small market owners are always penny wise/pound foolish).

    2. I can’t see the players ever getting more than 51% again. Their union is shit. And you don’t get back what you already gave up. Also, 57.5% was a bit high (NFL players make 48%, NHL 50%).

      They do need to fix some of the stupid, spiteful shit that got forced on them because owners were bitter that the Heat got formed.

      The elimination of max individual salaries would be nice, as well, seeing as that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen in a CBA. But it’s great for the rank and file NBA players, and they make up the vast majority of the union.

    3. 56 or 57% is clearly never going to be on the table again, but I could see a bump on 51%. NBA players should have a higher percentage than the other leagues. The players are much more important to their respective leagues than the NFL and NHL.

      But yes, they clearly need to get rid of all these stupid draconian rules designed to screw over, like, two teams. They are never going to come up with a rule that will force big stars to remain in small markets if they don’t want to stay there.

    4. If I’m the owners, I offer them 57%, but a rock hard cap, contracts are no longer guaranteed, and no limits on player contracts whatsoever (other than the team cap). Any team that cannot get under the cap (highly unlikely, but possible), forfeits 1 first round draft pick for each player over the hard cap, starting with the lowest paid player.

      Then I’d watch the Knicks give $80M to Carmelo. Also the Magic would field a $10M team and keep the rest.

    5. NBA players should have a higher percentage than the other leagues. The players are much more important to their respective leagues than the NFL and NHL.

      Exactly. The NBA union should be an absolute powerhouse. Stars matter by far more in basketball in any other sport, not just in terms of playing the game, but in marketing terms. Honestly, you could take the top 50 NFL players out of the league tomorrow and I’m not sure the league would miss a beat – everyone will show up on their couches on Sunday all the same. The players are practically irrelevant.

      The NBA is the complete opposite. If Lebron, Durant, CP3, Blake, Melo and about 5 other guys announced they were starting a new league and filling it out with D-league guys and college players I think you’d have a potentially viable competitor for the NBA on your hands in short order. Now obviously that star power has been undermined by the utter ineptness of the union to this point, but they should have a massive amount of leverage if they play their cards right.

    6. One interesting approach might be to just ask for the league to lock in 51%. 51% of a much bigger deal is still a financial windfall for the players, so they might be willing to accept just eliminating the possibility of a 49% or 50% split.

    7. @1 – I posted the link a few days ago: but the guys here seem to want to dig into 2015 salary caps, labor strife, playoff formats and teams tanking.

      I think the video is hilarious. It starts with rays of light suddenly shining down on him as he stretches his arms out wide. Then his jacket comes flying off to reveal Starbury in all his glory! The funniest part, for me, was watching him lose the dribble in the big dance scene while the girl behind him dribbles flawlessly.

    8. “The funniest part, for me, was watching him lose the dribble in the big dance scene while the girl behind him dribbles flawlessly.”
      Thank you for posting this link. It made my day.

    9. Problem with a renegade league had always been that the owners control the big arenas, and TV networks have all the $ and are unlikely to fully back a renegade league that may fold immediately.

    10. One of the nbageek guys wrote an article about research he did looking for the most consistent 3 point shooters in the league. We have 3 of the top 20 with Pablo(aka el numero uno), Calderon, and Carmelo. If we can reduce the amount of stupid shit JR does, or if Timmy takes a leap, we could really be a terrific 3 point shooting squad again. (obviously, this is something every coach JR has ever had has said)

      And yes, if you were wondering, floor stretching big man Andrea Bargnani was one of the 10 worst 3 point shooters in the NBA last year. But we probably already knew that in our guts.

    11. Bargs has no NBA-level skills to speak of, but I’ll always thank him for the sheer volume of hilarious GIFs to punctuate our circus sideshow of a season last year. Maybe that is a skill.

    12. I mean, I dislike Bargs the basketball player as much as anyone, but yeah, there’s something fun about him. Lots of guys play bad team defense, but not many play it with the style that he does. Who else would back away from the lane and just jump for no reason?

    13. But Synergy says he ranks blah blah blah in one-on-one defense and he shoots blah blah blah on spot-ups and if we just change his role he’ll be blah blah blah…

    14. @15 best comment EVER.

      I still maintain that Bargs would be the most popular knick if he made league minimum/didn’t cost Novak and 3 picks and was our 12th man. Of course he’s not so I hate him.

    15. Bargnani shouldn’t be an NBA player. He loses games for any basketball team he’s on. He should make $0 in the NBA and be a benchwarmer in Euroleague.

    16. Is there any hope for Cole Aldrich to be the starting 5 this season? I hope he and Quincy Acy (Kenneth Faried-lite) get some quality minutes this preseason to prove that they deserve real PT over the mid range jump shooting Bargs and Jason Smith (who is just an incrementally better version of Andrea Bargnani). Aldrich, Acy, Stat, Dalembert, and Smith should split the 96 minutes at the 4 and 5 with Stat/Aldrich splitting 60 and the other 36 should go to Smith/Dalembert/Acy. The 1-3 are pretty easy to figure out rotation wise, but I’ll be watching closely to see how our front court shakes out. We have a lot of potential for productive basketball between Aldrich, Stat, Dalembert, and Acy and of they get a lot of minutes we could really suprise the league this year. Calderon, Melo, Stat, and Aldrich all have to lead the team in minutes played for that to happen, with Pablo, Shump, Hardaway Jr, and the Smiths playing productive minutes as well.

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